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To jasonchiu - using PM to ask forum questions is the wrong way to go about getting information. The idea of a forum is so that EVERYONE can ask questions and everyone can see the answers, that way everyone learns. If you just trawled the members online and PM'd everyone this is SPAM and everyone hates that...
Anyway, it's obvious from your questions that you haven't read much (if anything) because they have all been answered before - I suggest you do some reading then post your questions in the open forum. If you get told the question is dumb then it probably is, but you'll still get some answers or tips.
If you just PM everyone because you're too lazy to read you'll just end up getting flamed - then when you brick your phone no one will help.
Same Here ---
Seems you're not the only one getting PM's with questions that could have been asked in the open forums. I too have been getting some, as well -- although not from jasonchiu.
Folks -- to keep PM'ing users about getting links to files that are already posted on the forums' threads is NOT cool. The links are there. READ THE FORUMS!!!
I don't mind answering questions via PM about a certain app I'm using, or how did I do . . . ?? But, to get a PM wanting a link to something that's already on these threads over and over again -- and with SEVERAL different hosts -- is uncalled for. I will begin ignoring such requests. . .
I, too, am constantly reading and trying new and different ROMs and apps on my device. Reading is where the answers come from. If you can't find an answer, THEN post your question in the appropriate forums. Then -- only if you don't get an answer -- PM someone whom you feel could help you out.
If you're getting PMs that should be open forum, just post them in the open forum and ignore the PM. PMs aren't an excuse for greater laziness, and the forum is a forum after all, ie public debate and discursion.
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If you think you get a lot trying being a mod... but im not complaining, i like helping people!
But i do see the point of some people shooting pm's instead of posting in the fora.. some people are afraid of getting flamed.. kinda like whats happening in this topic. I find that most of these people know the answer is in the boards, and they have searched but couldnt find it and afraid of being humiliated. Some people are just lazy, but they are usually to lazy to send a pm as its faster to just post the same question over and over.. what i would suggest is that if someone constantly pm's you then either keep pointing them to the correct threads, or tell them you dont know.
When a member (both new and senior) repeats a post/question that has been answered before torches rise, everybody looses their head and hell breaks loose.
Just hear me out, please
Some members complain that repeating questions and posts "create spam" and just clug the forums. But comments that complain about those posts are just as unhelpful in the community.
All I'm saying is that I belive most users do search before posting a question, and they might not have found the answer with their specific phrasing. If they address the question in a different manner, in a near future when some one else encounters that same problem, they there are more chances of finding the answer, or even better: a more updated one!
So please: if you have easy access to the answer or a reference to it, it will cost you next to nothing and might save the forum several posts there after if you just actually help!!
This is something all forums suffer from. Just wanted to bring more awareness to the issue from a different perspective than most users.
... go ahead and flame me if you must
Jimmyy said:
All I'm saying is that I believe most users do search before posting a question, and they might not have found the answer with their specific phrasing.
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True enough, but the people who find the answers tend not to start a new thread about how they had a problem and then fixed it .
I've not really run into much trouble with the searching. If I find a thread where someone has asked a question that I'm also looking for the answer to and it's full of replies saying how it's been answered plenty of times before then at least I know it's an issue that's been dealt with and I can keep looking, confident that my answer is out there.
Sometimes it gets a little excessive when there's more than two or three replies to someone's thread telling them to search, but then it is clear that there's a hell of a lot of people out there that just plain don't bother trying to find things out for themselves. If anything can be done to make sure that they only do this the once, I'm all in favour.
ok, so i'll reply to this post by also referencing an answer
this thread is redundant you <insert worst insult you can think of here> noob
please see
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=371254
Ahhh....the irony!
I just put a rehash of previous posts in the last post and in my first post in that thread, and in Notatreofan's recent thread. Just so that more threads aren't created, I've included it here too.
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As for the problem with redundant threads, I've been trying to either:
Giving the new user a search term (that we know will help), or
given the new user a way to navigate and use the resources here, mostly created by us to prevent users from asking questions in the first place, or
given the noob the links he wanted.
If you're genuinely interested in helping others, you'll realize that two of the three ways actually teach a person new things, which means they'll be better off on their own, while #3 only encourages them to ask more questions.
Finally, it's not the amount of time you've been here reading, because that's not contributing back to the community. So my suggestion to you would be to come back and re-read this thread after you've contributed back to the forum by having at least 500+ genuinely helpful posts and see if you feel the same way.
And I don't mean your suggestions to fix a soft key issue by bashing the keyboard with a screwdriver
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I'd like to add, if you're feeling particularly annoyed, you can always include this link. If you append your search terms like this:
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http://www.justf**kinggoogleit.com/search?q=tilt+backlight+phone+call
It will redirect after 15 seconds to the google page you want. I highly suggest a bit of chastising when using that link, but please make sure they're aware that it is humorous and slightly offensive
Perhaps I've forgotten to emphasize that there is a fine line between chastising and harassing. Some members take it too far while not helping at all The idea is to get new users to become self-reliant, not flame the living crap out of them and belittle them
Dear mods
I cant beleive the petition for omnia forum has been closed, the forum was for fair discussion and debate any wrong users or hostile users should have been punished personally but instead ive had a well meaning poll closed down before it had a chance to voice it opinions, i understand the mods issues with some of the writers but why should we all be penolised as a result, the thread was a chance for the omnia users to ask politely for an omnia forum rathetr than a colective bunch of fools posting everywhere. im sorry i find myself writing this as i thort the mods should have been decent enough to close the thread after the petition had been answered directly, i know this isnt a democracy but it is getting a ridiculous
regards
The discussion is closed,
Last week the answer was NO...
Yesterday the answer was NO...
Today the answer is NO...
Tomorrow the answe will still be NO...
Next week (month, year, etc) the answer will remain NO...
it was a petition it should have been closed until an administator answered the question or cracked under requests
Respectfully
Please do not start all over again with this theme
Mods & Admins made it clear since a long time ago...
this is just a space-mb-thread waste
Please Mods close this one also
no the petition was supposed to ba a discussion thread, the people who were *****es should have been punished personally
Question asked and answered. No more need for discussion.
Thread closed.
like the title,is the 23053 ROM have the sms problem like the 23049? it can't receive the sms mail when turn off the screen.
any body can ask me about this?thanks
here's the answer
thank you for your answer.
may be i am a new guy in this forum.so something i don't know yet.so thank you your ask.
but:
10. Help others if you can.
If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping each other, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
Dont answer this ignorant person, its obvious you havent read the forum rules
yes.i don't read the forum rules. and i don't know have it too.i a new people for this forum.
but i don't damn the forum rules.i just want to ask you forum rules have this one rules. help everybody who need to help.
i am a ignorant person? if you are a ingnorant person,i think you won't wated your time to discuss this no about the mobile question.you will go to ask the question if have somebody need answer.
The fact is you question has been answered a thousand times before and you need to search
if you answer me this,that i'll so thanks for you answer.because i'm a new people.new to this forum. so,for your last answer,i thank you.
but you all answer before,it is likt to ask me,i can't ask any question in this forum, and i must be a senior member when i am joinning this forum.know everything.
being new and having questions is no excuse, if everyone started a thread for every question they had it would turn into chaos.... dont be lazy, read read read, search and follow the rules!
but the forum have too much question.i just search it one time.no body have been post the 23053 ROM question and answer about 23053 ROM SMS. if have the same as my question and answer before,pls show me the address.i think that is your best work. and tell me to see the forum rules and learn it next time.
this is the real helpful for me and the other have same quetion people.no just tell to search and learn the rules.if i know how to do you,i won't post this quetion. if you can let me know about my question answer,pls tell me.and tell me how to do if i have the question too next time. no just tell me how to do next time and tell me i am a ignorant person. you want to joke me or help me and other new people?
the xet member answer me install the tweak and setup it will be OK.i had try,it's really good. so if somebody had the same problem as me.pls install tweak and setup.
today say too much.but just xet the answer is to my question.thanks
ok guys calm down.
First off @ it1861 - Try and abide by forum rules and search before creating a new thread. Yes, you are correct, the rules do say to try and help others when they ask a question. But you have to understand a lt of questions get asked countless times and people lose their patience when others don't search. Obviously they shouldn't lose their cool but instead should direct you to previous thread, and remind you of forum rules before a mod comes and closes thread.
Secondly @ shruff - Everyone has been a noob at some point including myself and it can be hard at first to navigate site. Please treat others with repsect and the way you would like to be treated. No need to lose your cool, just report thread and a mod will come and assist when available.
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Ok, this is getting crazy over here. Why on earth can we not have a SINGLE THREAD about Android L? It is the biggest release for Android and some people are excited. Everybody was confined to one thread prior to this, and guess what? That thread was closed. Why? Because people were apparently "spamming questions" (I didn't read through the entire thread so I don't know exactly what was going down, but the last couple pages didn't see all that bad).
Every other thread now is getting shut down. Seriously, what does it matter if people are asking too much? They are excited! Closing all of these threads are just going to make new people (those who weren't here last night or today) keep posting more topics on the matter. So what if people are being annoying. That main thread that was closed still had some genuine people in it. Who cares if there are a few people throughout the thread asking too much? Let them be! At least it is in one thread and not making a mess of this and the Q&A forum, likes its been since the main thread was closed.
Let this topic stay please, and let anybody speculate, ask questions, build hype or whatever towards Dev preview!
May I just remind everybody who would say something along the lines of "Oh XDA is a developer forum not blah blah blah", which is what I have seen numerous times in these topics that have been closed:
Quoted Directly above the threads here in General!
"Since this is not a development section, you can post on general topics that all users will encounter with the Nexus 5. Any registered XDA user can post in this forum."
I believe all users will encounter Android L, so why can't there be speculation, posts about things that were discovered, new pictures ect.? Look I know it gets annoying, but that's when it is all over the forum. Can we just keep this one topic open and confine everybody to it? It will make those who want to talk about it happy for they have a place and it will make those annoyed happy for it is only one thread.
Noble cause, but it won't work. It will derail in a matter of seconds and none of us mods feel like taking on the burden of keeping it in check simply for speculation purposes. Wait for the test version to drop, until then nothing is allowed.
Thread closed.