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Please put up stickies for all tutorials. then we wont have duplicate treads and i think it will be easier for everyone.
moyofalaye said:
Please put up stickies for all tutorials. then we wont have duplicate treads and i think it will be easier for everyone.
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You wouldn't have to duplicate threads if you search.
I think it will be a great idea if we can put SOME topics as stickies, but not too much.
I also would be very pleased if we can have a moderator that would be real "active" on the forum, in other words, that deletes topics from one-time-posters with questions that are asked about 1000 times. That will keep the forum(s) a bit cleaner and better to search.
If I search for TomTom or Rom Upgrade now, I will get a lot of search results, but the pain in the ass is that about half of the results are questions of one-time-posters/noobs that didnt use the search function.
Also I get a lot of PM's with noob questions from people that have 0 posts and are not active on the forum(s), but I think a lot of members here have the same problem. I am always willing to help, but for now I stopped replying to simple questions from people that have 0 posts, just because I know that all the answers are in the forum, so you will come to the conclusion that they didn't use the search function at all.
And no....I dont wanna volunteer as mod
Molski
The simple answer would be use (and update) http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard When I had a universal it was always my first port of call at the begining
Problem with this is that someone will write a post on how to open a can of coke. What qualifies this as a tutorial? If someone pms me asking for it to be made sticky, I'll see how the thread grows, and if the community are finding it truly helpful, I'll make it sticky. However, then we'll end up being overwhelmed with 3pages of stickies even before you get to current posts.
My idea, which I proposed to the mods, is first to detail your post titles, eg
[new release] VJNubilous - makes you last all night
[tutorial] Stamina - Desensitising techniques pros/cons
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This makes them stand out and easier to search for.
However, a longer term solution is to have a dedicated Tutorial forum etc.
But again, we have the wiki, and that's a better place for that kind of stuff. The onus is on the original poster to realise his post is useful and put it on the wiki - but anyone can edit the wiki, so everyone should
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i posted 3 times on this forum noone ever answered - even though i know that these topics were discussed. Of course everyone here YELLS - YOU ARE A NEWBIE go search the forum - the search brings up 1000s of post that would take 10 days to read and find what anyone needs....
This forum will be much better with stickies - way better.
For example right now i am sitting and trying to find a way to install properly Windows Lite on my phone and i know that posting for help will be useless.... so i emailed directly to the creator of those skins.
But if there was a sticky - that would help a lot....
Just my 2 cents
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i posted 3 times on this forum noone ever answered - even though i know that these topics were discussed. Of course everyone here YELLS - YOU ARE A NEWBIE go search the forum - the search brings up 1000s of post that would take 10 days to read and find what anyone needs....
This forum will be much better with stickies - way better.
For example right now i am sitting and trying to find a way to install properly Windows Lite on my phone and i know that posting for help will be useless.... so i emailed directly to the creator of those skins.
But if there was a sticky - that would help a lot....
Just my 2 cents
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I am a newbie here, I appreciate the work everyone has done here too. I am also a bit knowlegeble on other stuffs and i am also a memebr of other forums. from experience. it would help alot if there is a tutorial section. example, xbox-scene.com there is a dedicated place for tutorials and they really broke all aspects of everything that has to be with the xbox. Please can the moderators and human gods that make this site tick please have mercy on us. Im sure that there are also alot of people here, that will help to get this thing done in no time.
Thanks again for every thing.
RussianInLa said:
i posted 3 times on this forum noone ever answered - even though i know that these topics were discussed. Of course everyone here YELLS - YOU ARE A NEWBIE go search the forum - the search brings up 1000s of post that would take 10 days to read and find what anyone needs....
This forum will be much better with stickies - way better.
For example right now i am sitting and trying to find a way to install properly Windows Lite on my phone and i know that posting for help will be useless.... so i emailed directly to the creator of those skins.
But if there was a sticky - that would help a lot....
Just my 2 cents
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Like Vijay said, instead of stickies we have the Wiki, thats much much better then a sticky will ever be.
p.s. I replied to one of your topics (ringtone help), the reason that you dont have reply's on your other topics is maybe because nobody knows the answer?
The WiKi pages are THE place for Tutorials.
And it saves us mods a lot of work (I have a life next to this too).
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The WiKi pages are THE place for Tutorials.
And it saves us mods a lot of work (I have a life next to this too).
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Please i will like to help on the wiki. Please give me the best advice or suggestion for me to help us with the wiki.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WikiHomePage
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http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WikiHomePage
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Thanks, already started getting to work.
agree with it over all
but i have done searches and you get 20k worth or look at but usally half have nothing to do with what your looking for since someone puts off topic in a thread and you end up drilling down for nothing on a lot of it
and the wiki is there but not well maintained at the moment has some info but not a lot >>> but work in progress take time lord i know i work my reg job 16 + hrs a day
but a sugjestion of a more detailed thread break down
would be nice
Guys,
As everyone who has read more than 3 posts here knows the Wizard Forums have become quite the mess lately
To help fix this situation, the Admins and Moderators have wisely decided to add a few Moderators seeking members who are active in the various threads.
I was honored to be one of the Wizard Members selected for this task.
Now I need your help. This forum is a community effort, it should reflect the needs and wishes of the community. That is where you come in.
I've already made Faria's "CID Unlocking for AKU 2.x Roms" Thread STICKY. Hopefully this will make it easier for newbie and veterans alike to find.
Please submit suggestions for other useful threads whose content should be made sticky.
I would like to eventually get this type of content added to the WIKI and then replace the stickies with a single closed thread that has links to the various sections of the new Wiza-Wiki.
Also, I know that we have a few members working on getting the Wiza-Wiki in shape, let's get behind them and support their efforts.
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Guys,
As everyone who has read more than 3 posts here knows the Wizard Forums have become quite the mess lately
To help fix this situation, the Admins and Moderators have wisely decided to add a few Moderators seeking members who are active in the various threads.
I was honored to be one of the Wizard Members selected for this task.
Now I need your help. This forum is a community effort, it should reflect the needs and wishes of the community. That is where you come in.
I've already made Faria's "CID Unlocking for AKU 2.x Roms" Thread STICKY. Hopefully this will make it easier for newbie and veterans alike to find.
Please submit suggestions for other useful threads whose content should be made sticky.
I would like to eventually get this type of content added to the WIKI and then replace the stickies with a single closed thread that has links to the various sections of the new Wiza-Wiki.
Also, I know that we have a few members working on getting the Wiza-Wiki in shape, let's get behind them and support their efforts.
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i have allredy updated wiki several times,i wish some others did.
congrats in the promotion.eheh
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dam ..im one now...ehe
congrats to the promotion! Wish you the best of luck in this monstrous task... And you can count me in to assist in any way I can
Well if you need any help let me know!!! I am here every day.
Good luck with this massive job.
I think a link to this post should be included as a sticky.
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Good luck with this massive job.
I think a link to this post should be included as a sticky.
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We're already up to 6 stickies, may more and the posts will start on page 2 ....
Good Luck it's great for the forum...
I'm sure it's gonna be a very nice place to be in..
Good luck to us all.
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We're already up to 6 stickies, may more and the posts will start on page 2 ....
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Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
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Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
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Perfect idea, let's get the threads collected. Then we can compile the info into a concise thread and close it so it doesn't become useless.
My suggestions:
1. The wiki - of course
2. Everything that's already sticky
3. changing splashscreens
4. faria's ext-rom guide
5. One of the "wizard wont start" threads - even though it's not really an upgrade issue it's seems to be a fairly reoccuring question.
I'm sure the list will grow but this was what I found after a quick runthrough.
Other than that one might also want to mention the meaning of WWE and the fact that you can change the language by changing rom etc
Pehaps also the fact that the standard user profile is set to only display threads 1 month old...
Basically just include every question ever asked by anyone who's ever had a problem
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My 2 cents... Let's not make mess in one separate thread cause it would be hard to find the answers in it. Let newcomers see what they are looking for reading the thread header. I suggest to collect threads worth to be sticky in separate subforum say Wizard FAQ where users can't write, just read. Reviewing the FAQ time to time move some threads into Wiza-Wiki.
And if one of those n00b threads would appear in any of Wizard forum we could send newcomers to FAQ first (say by PM) and then send a message to mods to close or kill the thread.
So the structure of the Wizard forum could be:
Wizard FAQ
Wizard
Wizard upgrading
Wizard accessories etc.
G4
Rom updates
I think, to stop some of the annoying threads, it would be wise to stop the uploading and/or posting password protected ROM's and have the whole forum commenting, guessing........ it's childish and could be handled by PM's or E-mails.
Yes, I'm jealous........ but it is not helping the forum.
How about this one:
* I have developed I great new ROM, which is unbelievable, should I release it or not ?*
Is also not helping.
Kyphur, I think you will be a great mod, but don't just look at the n00bs.
Also, too many Stickies is improving, try using folders in stead.
Vilem said:
I think, to stop some of the annoying threads, it would be wise to stop the uploading and/or posting password protected ROM's and have the whole forum commenting, guessing........ it's childish and could be handled by PM's or E-mails.
Yes, I'm jealous........ but it is not helping the forum.
How about this one:
* I have developed I great new ROM, which is unbelievable, should I release it or not ?*
Is also not helping.
Kyphur, I think you will be a great mod, but don't just look at the n00bs.
Also, too many Stickies is improving, try using folders in stead.
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It's NOT childish! Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way. I've uncovered a couple of bugs that we can fix before it hits the streets. Not quite ready for prime time, sorry. What's childish is the people that can't make a working ROM work because of themselves.
And be very careful of what you're jealous of. I've hard reset 2 phones today at least 10 times each, not counting going back and forth between two version of Jose's latest ROM on those two phones. We're talking 4 hours, maybe 5... and we're still working on it.
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It's NOT childish! Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way. I've uncovered a couple of bugs that we can fix before it hits the streets. Not quite ready for prime time, sorry. What's childish is the people that can't make a working ROM work because of themselves.
And be very careful of what you're jealous of. I've hard reset 2 phones today at least 10 times each, not counting going back and forth between two version of Jose's latest ROM on those two phones. We're talking 4 hours, maybe 5... and we're still working on it.
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Dr.P. I respect the work Jose, Molski and the others are doing, but that was not my point. My point was as you said "Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way.".
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Dr.P. I respect the work Jose, Molski and the others are doing, but that was not my point. My point was as you said "Right now Jose is dealing only with me and it's better that way.".
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I merely help in the initial bug testing. If this particular bug had been released the *****ing would have been legendary and why clog up our threads this early. As it turns out Faria just sent me what appears to be the fix.
I expect some more beta testers will be invited now, though that's not my call (but it is my recomendation)
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Why not simply gather up all the threads a newbie would need in order to SIM/CID-unlock, upgrade, etc into one sticky post and call it something like "all you need to know to upgrade your wizard"... Might help to clear up some confusion
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That would be good -- if it would work. Problem is that people just want to jump in with both feet asking questions WITHOUT reading first. That's been the problem all along and why the forum is such a mess now.
I'm SOOOOOO tired of the "I bricked my phone" threads and the "How do I unlock. . . " threads when all that information is already here several times over.
Just my 2 cents.
Is there any REAL way to 'make' someone read BEFORE posting?? That's the problem, as I see it.
Okay, we're getting a little off topic.
I think the point here is to address the most with the least.
By getting the CID Unlocking, Rom Flashing and other much sought after info stickied and closed threads then we can simply shut down new "I brincked my Phone" or What is CID unlocking threads by redirecting the OP to the stickied threads and then deleteing the new thread before it pollutes the already clogged threads.
After this pro-active approach is implimented, I will be more than happy to sift through the mounds of threads mercilessly deleting the old threads that are nothing but confusing and clogging to the search function.
It is impossible to have something that people will read before posting. I suggest that we have a section of FAQ by noobs, which other members can just post a single line "go read the wiki".
the best place to start with clean up is the wikki, i looked through the wizard wikki last night and its horrible.. there is even a post from someone on there looking for something specific with their email address, didnt even bother to post it in the boards..
BTW, im a mod now to i will start looking and cleaning up tonight when i get home!
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the best place to start with clean up is the wikki, i looked through the wizard wikki last night and its horrible.. there is even a post from someone on there looking for something specific with their email address, didnt even bother to post it in the boards..
BTW, im a mod now to i will start looking and cleaning up tonight when i get home!
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Thanks for joining the Mods, glad to have the help. Maybe as you get the Wiki fixed you can lock the pages so someone else can't just come behind and destroy your work. (Leave a link for them to PM the Mods if they have info to add).
I have lurked here a bit, originally joining a while ago to see what was possible with my XDA, but got rid of it before becoming very active. Now I am back with a WING and prayer, and technicaly still qualify as a NOOB.....
Here are my thoughts on the NOOB issue.
1. This is like a big party that we NOOBS just crashed. We show up and complain about the music, or the booze, when in truth we ought to be damn glad we are at the party at all.
2. There is an answer to almost every question buried somewhere in these forums, and if you cannot or will not search for it, then you are in the wrong place. This includes other phone model forums by the way. Don't search the Herald forum only ad then give up if there is no answer. Dig into other HTC forums and you will be surprised how many of the issues you have are already covered there.
3. This may be a personal belief, but it really pisses me off to see people encounter 1 bug and post that the ROM sucks and they are reverting. I view our collective roles as beta testers. Don't stop at 1 bug- actively seek out as many as you can so the next ROM is that much closer to perfect. I have a major issue with the ROM I am using now, but I reflash it and dig deeper anyway.
4. You will and should get flamed (or at least warmed up) for posting questions that have been answered 100,000 times before including in the post right above yours. The Chefs in the forum spend hours or even days and months cooking up these ROMS for our benefit. They are not paid to do this, though they should be (and Ihave sent donations to several). The point is, we can all spend 30 minutes going through the forum reading it all to see if the issue we have uncovered is already discussed before posting a question.
5. If you want the most out of this site, spend some effort, not only searching, but documenting. Posting you have a crash is not helpful unless you can add information like what other programs you installed (card or device), what you did to the create the issue, and how to recreate it. Then the ROM Chefs can more quicly cook up solutions.
6. Credit those who help or provide. It is human nature to appreciate being thanked or recognized- see my signature? Without those three names my Wing would be chained to the T-Mobile default ROM. Oh yeah, while on the subject- DO NOT SELL anything from this site.
Just my 2 cents....
Yes you are right.
We all started as noobs and now we yell at noobs.
BUT MAYBE the noobs from today are a little different to noobs in earlier day??????
I READ 1 year without any posting NOT EVEN when i got something to work. BECAUSE it didn´t matter if I posted. Because it was useless at all.
There are so many people out there working really hard - they don´t need another "damn i want it in red not green...."
There was a time when everyone believed each other... When the cook stated "I will find a solution" then everyone waited for this. and didn´t mentioned it again and again...
BTW I will close the thread. WE don´t need another OFF topic "How2discuss"
I wrote an announcement in HOW2.... and maybe we can start working on devices again and not on generel human beeing problems. The world is getting worse...
BUT your statement should be read by everyone!
IT is good and it is quite good to see people thinking the same....
Thanks
i just got the att tilt and i was wondering if there is any software or programs that will allow you to watch videos on break.com? cause when i go to it it says get flash. i have the flash bundle and tcmp which lets me watch youtube so im just wondering about break and also other sites that use flash. Also something where i can look at myspace.com normally?
well hope you can help....thanks
Amazing....
Simply apply the same type of replies to THIS thread as your OTHER thread, found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=373779
HELP YOURSELF! THIS IS NOT A BABY SITTING WEBSITE!
the thing is i have been searching for answers but i havnt found anything concrete and it has been in different threads for different things so i was hoping to get a concrete answer....mans ur just wasting more time on just complaining then just helping.
Have you ever stopped to think about why it's so hard to find an answer???? Because you have to sort though 1,000,000's of useless threads (like this one).
I did a search BEFORE I posted the first reply. Low and behold!!!!! THE ANSWER WAS THERE!
If you have a question, you can bet it has already been asked, many times! Just because it is YOUR first day here, dosent mean it is the first day for these forums to be here and other members to be here!
Sure, I could have just linked to it, but then what is this BB? A bunch of threads that map to other threads that map to other threads?
GET REAL! Nobody here is your personal assistant!
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Have you ever stopped to think about why it's so hard to find an answer???? Because you have to sort though 1,000,000's of useless threads (like this one).
I did a search BEFORE I posted the first reply. Low and behold!!!!! THE ANSWER WAS THERE!
If you have a question, you can bet it has already been asked, many times! Just because it is YOUR first day here, dosent mean it is the first day for these forums to be here and other members to be here!
Sure, I could have just linked to it, but then what is this BB? A bunch of threads that map to other threads that map to other threads?
GET REAL! Nobody here is your personal assistant!
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lol grizzley...he DOES have a personal assistant
the "search" button
I fully understand how new people asking questions about something they need help with would be annoying?!? (sarcasm) But I have searched for certain items on this site a few times and may have found the item I was looking for, but have not known it. Not everyone on this site has time to sit 24 hours and learn every term and name of the things we are searching. Granted the video aspect of the Kaiser has been brought up in multiple threads and a search was warranted.......but being a jerk is not helping the cause either. I wasted more time reading your assanine comments than figuring out what the answer may have been.
I am on my 6th HTC branded PPC and still I consider myself a nOOb at all of this .......funny thing is , is that , I do not ask any questions about things on this site.....even if I have searched.......because of the flaming it causes by the know it alls!
Go ahead and flame me for only haveing 20 posts ...if that.....but I do not post because of jackholes acting all high and mighty like you all keep doing in almost every thread on this site!
My vent so take it how you want!
it just seems like that the only thing these jerks do is just sit around all day on the forums and just look at them and thats it....sorry some people have lives that cant just sit here and know everything that is on this forum...and yes i did searches like i have said....i have the video **** done....like i said for youtube but i was wondering about flash sites and break.com wouldve been simple to just read it and answer it and not be a [email protected]@! get over yourselves and get lives.
Why is it that people can NOT read a forum before posting a question? Every forum i have read answers my question with out even posting a question. Why then do people insist on posting a question here and wasting time these guys can be spending on comming up with the MODS we the people want/need. I can not afford a Captivate for another month or so, but I already have a lot of answers/solutions to my questions or potential problems. Reading forums is not anymore time consumming that posting a question and waiting a few hours or days for the answer. I really hate it when I see that an answer is "Its has already been posted. I have read through this forum many times and I think my only remaining question might be in understanding the technical "How to's". HOWEVER i know where the asnwer of "How to" s Located. Just my pennies worth. I can't afford my two cents worth... LOL
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Why is it that people can NOT read a forum before posting a question? Every forum i have read answers my question with out even posting a question. Why then do people insist on posting a question here and wasting time these guys can be spending on comming up with the MODS we the people want/need. I can not afford a Captivate for another month or so, but I already have a lot of answers/solutions to my questions or potential problems. Reading forums is not anymore time consumming that posting a question and waiting a few hours or days for the answer. I really hate it when I see that an answer is "Its has already been posted. I have read through this forum many times and I think my only remaining question might be in understanding the technical "How to's". HOWEVER i know where the asnwer of "How to" s Located. Just my pennies worth. I can't afford my two cents worth... LOL
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tl;dr 10char
Not everyone is... well.. fast as other peeps lol. :T .. It's not as easy for some people to navigate forums either D: .. So it happens :T .
superman2112ms said:
Why is it that people can NOT read a forum before posting a question? Every forum i have read answers my question with out even posting a question. Why then do people insist on posting a question here and wasting time these guys can be spending on comming up with the MODS we the people want/need. I can not afford a Captivate for another month or so, but I already have a lot of answers/solutions to my questions or potential problems. Reading forums is not anymore time consumming that posting a question and waiting a few hours or days for the answer. I really hate it when I see that an answer is "Its has already been posted. I have read through this forum many times and I think my only remaining question might be in understanding the technical "How to's". HOWEVER i know where the asnwer of "How to" s Located. Just my pennies worth. I can't afford my two cents worth... LOL
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The problem exists on all forums everywhere. People want to be spoon fed as it is easier then actually searching for answers. Searching requires work, and most people have an aversion to work.
Those who can, use Google; those who can't, ask those who can.
If only i could get paid for my search skills.
Still consider myself a noob
Even though I have been on this site for a couple of years, and have successfully flashed way too many windows roms, I would still consider myself a noob, because I have not the skills and knowledge that many of you do. I myself have been made fun of for posting a "noob" question, and it is not fun. I always search before I ask a question, but sometimes I don't know the correct term to search for, so have no luck finding an answer. I understand how frustrating it is for you developers and advanced users to have such simple seeming questions, but please give some of us a break, not all of us are looking to be spoon fed, but actually have searched and are still frustrated. I myself am an avid researcher. I have been on this site for the past week looking at the Samsung Captivate that I hope to have in my hands on Monday and cannot wait to get started with it. I may have questions so please forgive me if they sound simple to you, I will always search first, and only post if I can't find the answer.
Just my thoughts. No offense intended to anyone.
Honestly its OK to ask the questions as long as they are posted in this section
Sent from my phone so excuse the spelling errors
skipper86 said:
Even though I have been on this site for a couple of years, and have successfully flashed way too many windows roms, I would still consider myself a noob, because I have not the skills and knowledge that many of you do. I myself have been made fun of for posting a "noob" question, and it is not fun. I always search before I ask a question, but sometimes I don't know the correct term to search for, so have no luck finding an answer. I understand how frustrating it is for you developers and advanced users to have such simple seeming questions, but please give some of us a break, not all of us are looking to be spoon fed, but actually have searched and are still frustrated. I myself am an avid researcher. I have been on this site for the past week looking at the Samsung Captivate that I hope to have in my hands on Monday and cannot wait to get started with it. I may have questions so please forgive me if they sound simple to you, I will always search first, and only post if I can't find the answer.
Just my thoughts. No offense intended to anyone.
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Well, it's one thing to ask a question where you need help. There seem to be a fair number of people who just ask questions because they are lazy. There was a thread in the general section where the poster said they were considering getting a Captivate, Vibrant or Streak, and then continued to ask the following questions:
1) Has the Bootloader been hacked?
2) Are there custom ROMs?
3) Which has a bigger developer community?
4) Can they use the international (Galaxy S/i9000) firmwares?
5) What are the advantages and disadvantages of using international firmware?
6) What accessories are available?
When informed these questions can be answered with a cursory look at the development forums for both phones, the OP replies they they are looking for "opinions" from people who own the phones. Sorry pal, the questions you asked have factual answers that can be easily obtained by a quick look at the developers forums. Lazy is lazy, no matter how you phrase it.
I think it's instances like these people are frustrated with.
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Why is it that people can NOT read a forum before posting a question? Every forum i have read answers my question with out even posting a question. Why then do people insist on posting a question here and wasting time these guys can be spending on comming up with the MODS we the people want/need. I can not afford a Captivate for another month or so, but I already have a lot of answers/solutions to my questions or potential problems. Reading forums is not anymore time consumming that posting a question and waiting a few hours or days for the answer. I really hate it when I see that an answer is "Its has already been posted. I have read through this forum many times and I think my only remaining question might be in understanding the technical "How to's". HOWEVER i know where the asnwer of "How to" s Located. Just my pennies worth. I can't afford my two cents worth... LOL
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Maybe sometimes it takes too long to read 12345 pages of crap
It may take a long time but taking the extra bit of time will save you hours in the long run.
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Maybe sometimes it takes too long to read 12345 pages of crap
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There wouldn't be 12345 pages of crap if you people would stop making duplicate threads for questions already answered and linking to news that's already been posted. Do your part.
Also, pro-tip... use the search function to cut down on the 12345 pages of crap and get a few pages of relevant search results.
Dont wanna offend any one but.....
1.U just posted something in the incorrect forum.
2. As stated above some people cannot find the correct search terms. Also searching from xda app is a pita. Cant select a subform only and searches who site .
3. Some people who answer these questions may enjoy helping others. And it can't be a waste of there time as they have s choice on whether r not to answer tge question.
..now I know I posted a thread earlier in incorrect form. Seems my xda app never updated and showed a Q&A thread. Had to delete app and reinstall.So hopefully it will be switched to correct subforum.
Please no one get offended just ranting like th OP......
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flashman2002 said:
It may take a long time but taking the extra bit of time will save you hours in the long run.
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I agree, and usually reading the first few pages and last few pages gives you 99% of the info you need.
But again, it takes time and work, and most people want to be spoon fed - just like in the real world.