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HTC Scrolling from ASerg

More shortly, has bothered me touch a cube, and here scrolling worthy alternative I have not found it. Here has decided to leave only scrolling.
It is simple HTC Scrolling (the library is taken from the latest insertion Elf).
Only for WM6.
Now also with a sound.

Can anyone report that this cab works?

I checked, works as in HTC Touch.

well...it crashed my Hermes and i need to hard reset it....=_=

berwick said:
well...it crashed my Hermes and i need to hard reset it....=_=
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I tested on Herald

Aserg it works with wizard thanks. But the touch scroll feeling is not as good as it is in touch enabled rom.
Thanks, i made thread for you in the wizard forum do check HERE

How to increase sensitivity of the screen? It is possible to try to change value in the register, for example, up to 3000:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE \Drivers \TouchPanel \ PressureThreshold = 9812
If you will pick up correct value, it is possible to make separate cab for wizard

For wizard try with such value if sensitivity will be good I shall make separate cab.
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel]
"PressureThreshold"=dword:2dc1

Can someone describe what exacly it does?? Is this app work like efrost's FTouchFlo???

It is taken from HTC TouchFlo.

Works on HTC Artemis (o2 Orbit)

Increase in sensitivity TouchPanel (It would be good to pick up for each device):

thanks very much now where can i find a rom without touch setting? seems all of th eroms that have been release is touch based

i crossed my fingers and try'it on my HTC Titan. And it did not work. touch screen stop working, so i remove the app and all was normal after. well was nice to try ;-)

Now also with a sound.

Thank you so much for this. Seems to work perfectly on my wing.

It would be good to leave here the responses. The information would be very useful to others.

ASerg, with sound it is working much better.Thanks Again.

ASerg said:
It would be good to leave here the responses. The information would be very useful to others.
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Well... Tried it on my Herald (the last version with the sound). Didn`t like it - it`s too slow, i mean the reaction of the prog for the finger scrolling. Also, sometimes, it confuses scrolling directions and starts up really late (like 2-3 sec after opening and start scrolling Contacts, i.e.). But I liked the sound, it`s very useful for blind scrolling - in car, i.e..
Deleted, and went back to FtouchFlo.

How to uninstall it
Hello,
I'm using SPB Pocket Plus for scrolling and it does not work very well with your "HTC Scrolling" application.
It is possible to uninstall it ? If so - how ?

Slow Programs scrooling

Hi, is it normal that srooling in programs is slower against other devices? For example my brothers Asus P535 has perfect speed, if he moves slider quickly, no problem, no lag, absolutely smooth, bud diamond isnt. Why?

Try doing the tweaks in the tweak thread for a start or if you want flash to another rom ie the TLR rom is pretty fast and tf3d is quite smooth and fast on that rom.
Have a look in the rom section of the forum and see which one sounds good to you.

Yes scrolling in "Programs menu" is reaaally slow ... compared to my previous 200 mhz original Touch it's ten times slower and almost impossible to control it with thumb because it takes a lot of time 'till it scrolls down...
I solved this by creating sub folders in programs menu so I don't need to scroll...
Maybe this is because of VGA display and slow GDI support, but I think this really needs some improvements or tweaks.
Any of existing tweaks I tried don't help - Glyph cache does nothing and Fatfs/Filters cache broke my system so I needed to hard reset... And as I can see this filesystem improvements have no influence on graphics performance...
ROM 1.37.401.3 speeds thinks up little bit, but I think windows GDI performance is still very bad on Diamond...
Is GDI accelerated in other ROM? Or can it be solved with some tweak to original 1.37.401.3 ROM?

Yes the scrolling speed is a real issue, it's laggy and sometimes not responsive.. This is a real pain in my ass because I'm coming from a 1st gen iPhone which had extremely smooth scrolling.

i must be lucky...my scrolling is so fast i wish sometimes to know how to make it slower because i can hardly have time to read the name of the programs before i stop...i usually have to scroll back..
no tweaks applied only bepe's last ROM....the biggest tweak of all

Any chance that HTC can solve this problem? I mean - can´t hardware handle it or just bad software?

Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.

I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.

Spawn12 said:
Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
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I think we are not talking about TF3D but about basic scrolling in WM - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVRouS6HwE and on this video it is not so bad - the more programs you have the slower it is...
When I flash the Bepe's ROM can I then flash back to 1.37.401.3 without losing warranty? Do I need to flash back original SPL before and if so - is it available?

pokevitek said:
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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You might want to check out someone1234 post in the tweak thread above...hes figured out a way to shorten the lag between scrolling screens...give it a try and see if it helps.

Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.

We must hope that some new ROM will solve this. Anyway, same thing the HTC logo after start or power off. Why it is thare if it is not played smoothly? I know this is becou os phone quick start, but anyway, the should gave a picture there.

Huey85 said:
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
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i dont tink its a issue htc can resolve -> its a os problem -> so its a ms problem.

Do you? I dont know how WM6.1, but my last device WM 5 had 5 times faster scrooling. Is diamond scrooling speed on other devices from other brands? Some E-ten? Mio? etc? I think this is exactly kind of issu HTC can solve very easily, if they would want.

Can someone with other than official-production ROM tell us, if scrolling and GDI performance is better?
Thanks

Yes I tried TLR ROM and it is not. But some good news, I found articles about same slow speed in other devices after upgrade on WM 6. I found some tweak too, but it helped only bit. I wil continue, if I sort out this problem, i will tell you how.

Which tweak App to use ?

OK.
Been frustrated as hell with the performance of my Diamond, but I REALLY REALLY want it to behave fluidly and as HTC market to us all... I don't want to hand it back and go for an N82 (although I love the camera on this). I WANT to keep using my Diamond as I do believe in it... even after my little rant in the "is your Diamond perfect" thread ;-)
So... and I hope this question will help others too.
I need to know - If I install Diamond TF3D Config and AC 2.1 with Boinger66's mods, and the latest on the block, Diamond Teak all on the same device.
And I asking for trouble ?
Or will common settings (registry changes) to improve performance, enhance power management etc across all these brilliant applications conflict with one another ? Or will they play nice and just change the same registry settings ?
cheers.
Or... is there one that will be the best ? I am not a WM expert and all this is a tad intimidating
Are the Advised settings marked in AC 2.1 with Boinger66's ones that the dev advises, the community has advised or Microsoft advise ?
i.e Do we happily set everything that we want to change to advised and following a soft reset, enjoy Diamond bliss ???
Please... I know I could read countless pages of threads but a clear concise answer to the above would help me and many others out along the way.
cheers

They should work all together...
My app is just reading and writing to the registry and not saving the selected tweaks anywhere else, so it makes no trouble with other tweaking tools, if they do it the same way.

It works together on my original Dutch rom...
At the moment I am using the Diamond TF3D config 0.6 tool from sushilange..
Here i can fill my own tweak list.. i like to take control

@sushi... thanks for that.
@ben®nie... cool. Will add AC2.1 and B66's tweaks back to my recently hard reset Diamond.
Currently with just sushi's app... all seems to be flowing along nicely
Oh... and anyone know the answer to the 'advised' setting question ? Power management ones seem most app with the small battery we all have ;-)

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Oh... and anyone know the answer to the 'advised' setting question ? Power management ones seem most app with the small battery we all have ;-)
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So... power management ???

newb quest whats the difference tween touch2d and 3d

so whats the difference animated weather?
what are the pros and cons of using either?
or are they really just the same?
let the flames begin
I searched touchflo2d vs 3d and couldnt find any info
so sorry in advanced if it was already covered else where.

hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape

More importantly right now, with M3d you can't put your phone into standby while it's running. And on my phone it ran like a dog!

guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers

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hmmmmm.....lets see here
Pro's of TF3D:
Great Animation
Great Graphics
Accurate Weather(its fun too )
Fast
Cons:
Not the easiest thing to configure
Takes a while to get everything working properly and fast(Flashing a ROM and all of that)
Landscape
Pro's of M2D:
Works on any device
Is easy to config
Just as fast as TF3D
Weather is ok but not very animated
Cons:
2D Graphics are not the best
Landscape
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ah
my 1st attempt at getting tf3d to install on my stock rom was a failer it just kept looping loading touch here to load and would freeze up and never load. I did a hardreset and I got 2d to load.
so with t3d it needs to be installed on top of a cooked rom it wont run on a stock 6.1 rom?
can you get both options to show up under home options or is it 1 or the other. I like play with my apps and switch back and forth till I decide which one works best for me being able install both would ber great less trouble hardrestting each time I wqant to compare.
thanks for replying

you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.

I use L26 TF3D Rom V4 and even though it is a little annoying to have to kill (turn off) Manilla everytime you want to put your phone to sleep, it is a great rom. My question is this. What is the difference between Manilla and Throttle? I tried searching but perhaps I did not search correctly. Thanks everyone.

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you cant have both M2D and TF3D both installed....in my signature there is a link covering a lot on TF3D and yes it has to be a cooked ROM.
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Ah thanks I thought I followed all the instructions in your t3d thread correctly.
I just got my tilt so will wait a few weeks (atleast till the 90 warranty runs out) before I start flashing cooked roms to it. Im using a ported blackstone m2d rom on my wizard and refuse to use the old htchome screen on my new phone
thanks for the help I would have spet the next few days trying to get t3d to work on my factory rom.

kaiserII101 said:
guess you havent read my thread about TF3D on our kaisers
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Ooh - no. That thread must have started about a week after I last tried TF3D and I missed it! I'll have to give it another try now.... (damn you )

New to Diamond2, just required some basic help.

Hi everybody, I recently got a Diamond2 and found that the enormous amount of expertise and help available at xda-developers have really helped me enjoy this phone. The phone is not locally supported by any carriers or retailers in Canada so the availability of these forums have been a real help. I've run through most of the issues I've had with the phone (really like the Pro2 Interface better but was way to bulky) but have a few remaining that I haven't been able to find satisfactory answers for, hope you guys will be able to help.
I've downloaded and played around with what seem to be most of the prerequisite softwares: Advanced Config Tool, Klaxon, Changescreen etc. and have also made a couple of registry modifications to enable TF3D rotation and things like that. Here is where I'm getting into a bit of trouble. Although changescreen is a great app I just don't like to install a lot of things on my device and decided to try the regedit. After a soft reset it seemed to work great but was quite slow in switching over to landscape and back. At first I though this was a problem with the g-sensor so I opened up Opera to try it out and found that it was much faster. Obviously it's a lot less graphically intense but I was playing around with a Touch Pro2 before I bought the Diamond2 and it is also significantly faster, with the same processor and everything. I've tried to reduce the sampling time for the g-sensor down from 200ms to 100ms in ACT but that didn't really seem to help. Also I get some really weird lines across the tops of TF3D pages in landscape; in the All Contacts page for example the bar that contains "Search Contacts" will have at least three sets of distorted lines across it at regular intervals across the page. The wallpaper also seems to malfunction as instead of staying as it was, it will stretch across the width of the screen and as a result become extremely distorted. The dialer doesn't go into landscape but that seems to be a common issue. I've downloaded the Rhodium Phone Dialer although I haven't had a chance to install it yet, maybe that will fix the dialer issue.
I do have some app installed that changes the background of all tabs to be the same and this seems to have messed with the transparency of the tab bar and, occasionally the phone will fail to respond to screen swipes that would usually cycle through the tabs without using the tab bar. Maybe this app is also causing the other problems.
The help on these forums has already been a great asset and I was just hoping that I would be able to get some simple fixes for the issues with the landscape thing without having to install more software. Thanks in advance for any help, its all appreciated. Cheers.
PS, rom is 1.39.421.0 (47382) WWE

what you can do to improve things:
1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
2. install flipit for rotation software - its better than the rest IMO

Thanks for the quick reply
Thanks for the quick reply, sorry I wasn't able to reply right away, got a bit busy at uni.
I was a bit apprehensive about installing a new rom but the one you recommended is amazing. The speed increase alone is unbelievable, doesn't even feel like the same device.
Everything is working great and the rotation is really fast now on everything except TF3D. It almost looks like it attempts to rotate and then fails. The title bars rotate around and then rotate back. I've added the regedit, manually removed and added it back into flip_it, but nothing seems to be working. Aside from that everything else seems perfect. Hope you'll be able to help, and once again, thanks.

oh yeah.. forgot to mention about manila in landscape
go to search and look for At0mAng & Danny_and_2 TF3D2 Tweak cab for topaz
install, and in the list of programs, there is option called Manila Rotate ON.
and thats it, you are all set...
hope this helps

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1. ditch stock rom and use tess rom
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Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks

Goondu said:
Can I ask where to read and get this rom?
I am also new to Topaz.
Running on stock ROM
been reading around. reading on the various rom threads to decide which to use.
I am looking for something stable, fast (aren't we all?) and 6.1. Still got Manila and hopefully with Titanium built in. Also if possible with ringtones removed.
What would you recommend?
Thanks
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tess = topaz essential
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=529260

Almost there
Thanks for the tip about the tweak program, installed it and followed your directions, manila is now rotating. However, its still incredibly slow; in the range of 3-5 seconds for transition to landscape and then around 1-2 seconds back to portrait. Also, those distortive lines I described earlier are back.
I was hoping for the kind of speed seen here http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MPVgN5QuzO4 but I do realize that its a different rom. I've disabled and enabled TF3D and also done a soft reset, but no speed increase. I was thinking it may be a hardware issue but everything else works fine. One thing I have noticed though is that since installing this rom some programs get stuck half rotated and the other half of the screen will display the TF3D home page. Once again, thanks for all the help so far.
P.S. If I disable TF3D the blank today screen will rotate at the same speed as in that video if not faster. Also before when the menus rotated but not TF3D they were rotating at the same fast speed.

yes, I know what you mean.. at this stage, manila rotates pretty slow for me too...
I guess at the moment, we have to live with it... the slow rotation only happens on tf3d2 rite? the rest is ok...
as with hardware issue, I am sure it is not, cause topaz is still relatively new...
btw, Manila 2.1 is around, and manila 2.5 is coming too... so, maybe they would give better performance .
btw, the youtube link is a rom made by Tom Condon, and as you probably know, he is very active in building rom for topaz too... why dont you give him a message, or try his rom...
Tha

sorry double post again..

Sounds good
Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.

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Glad to know that it wasn't just a one off issue. I'll give his rom a shot, was kind of wary b/c of the comments that said WM 6.5 was slow. Would you be able to direct me to somewhere that I'd be able to download TF3D 2.1 alone without a rom upgrade or anything or maybe even cooked into the TESS rom. Thanks for the incredible quick reply and for all the help so far.
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if you follow tess forum, then the next release would have manila 2.1

Thanks
Ye, sorry about that didn't quite follow the forum all the way, I guess I'll be waiting. Thanks man.