To Shut Down or not to Shut Down - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

I have noticed that over the past year (almost) with my Kaiser, through the many problems, none major , many times I have gotten frustrated and just shut down my Kaiser for the night and went to bed.
Only to find the next morning that the problem went away. Now I know it could be because of the soft reset involved ( though many times a soft reset didn't initially solve the problem) or giving the battery a rest, or letting the unit cool down. But to me, shutting down every night seems to cure a lot of ills. And prevent some.
I just want to throw out the " Question of the Day "
What does everyone do with their phone at night and why?
How many people shut down completely, How many just put it to sleep, And how many people just leave it on always and forever.
P.S. Didn't make a poll because I hate polls. Just wanted to discuss.

My phone is my alarm clock so I leave it with the screen off on my bedside, face down because the flashing LED's drive me mad
Dave

DaveShaw said:
My phone is my alarm clock so I leave it with the screen off on my bedside, face down because the flashing LED's drive me mad
Dave
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You can turn off that LED!

kristoff_sz said:
You can turn off that LED!
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I know, but I only want it off at night. I could probably do something with MortScript or even in C# if I could be bothered.
Dave

Mine stays on...always....forever...ON...always.........at night on standby...lots of reminders, alarms etc......never had problems now going on 7 months.

What kind of problems does this solve?
Mine is always on. I also use it for my alarm clock.
Also face down, otherwise the speaker doesn't sound loud enough to wake me!

denco7 said:
shutting down every night seems to cure a lot of ills. And prevent some.
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Maybe it has to do with the circuits cooling down. There's a reason why PCs have heat sinks and cooling fans.
The Tilt/Kaiser gets hotter than any phone I ever had.

I normally trek on the weekends, so i switch it off and kiss my phone goodbye . Weekdays, don't ever switch it off...

mine is also my alarm clock so i keep mine on for as long as i can. sometimes though, it does act up and i do have to reset, maybe once or twice every month or so =)

I turn mine off at night when I go to sleep and give it a full recharge every night.

DaveShaw said:
My phone is my alarm clock so I leave it with the screen off on my bedside, face down because the flashing LED's drive me mad
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Exact same here
Yesterday night I actually turned the phone off because some moron sent me a bogus text message half an hour after i fell asleep which pissed me off, and coming from him I expected that more would arrive... but that's very rare.

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vibrating on startup

is there any way to prevent diamond from vibrating on startup?
thank you!
There probably is but it woudl mean you have to go through the registry to find the relevant keys and adjust them. I myself dont know which keys would do the job but im sure someone here will be able to help you out.
Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.
I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this
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I think the phone does a self-test....like said before: it does vibrate before the OS loads, so I don't think there is any registery tweak for this
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Ya it does, it cheks all the systems on startup. So be worried if it does NOT vibrate, means your vib crappppeddd out.
Cheers boys
pedmond said:
Now this is probably not the answer you are looking for - but why? Not trying to flame or anything, but I've noticed sometimes a lot of energy can be spent on irrelevant problems. With all due respect, this seems like one of those to me.
A bit more to the point - I strongly doubt a registry value can change that - the vibration occurs apparently BEFORE the operating system is loaded, so registry is meaningless at this point.
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sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...
endebe said:
sure it's one of the less important things...
but for me it's a annoying one because i always let spb-backup do a daily backup (which is rebooting after the job) early in the morning when i'm still sleeping - it was fine with trinity (there i had also to do a reg-tweak to disable startup-animation with sound) - with diamond sometimes i get scared from the vibration...
and yes - i'm not sleeping like a log...
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Hehe - I see your point. Not much you can do about it though, I'm afraid.
This being said, if that vibration wakes you up, I really hope your home is VERY soundproof
Or simply put your diamond on or under a pillow.
Obviously there needs to be a movie about those horrible phones that go around terrifying people in their sleep!
That said, presumably you are putting the phone on a hard surface? Try putting it on something soft and wooly. Should significantly cut down the noise from those demonic vibrations.
Don't think there's a way to do that. The Touch Cruise does the same, and no one has figured out a way to disable it there as far as I know.
The issue with putting it on a soft surface to not make noise is (presumably) that if he did get an actual call or message, it would also silence that as well.
Can you change your schedule for SPB Backup to do its thing just as you go to sleep instead of in the middle of the night? Or if you don't always sleep at the same time, kick it off manually just as you go to sleep or step into the shower?
I know these don't solve your question, but are ideas to create the desired outcome
i hope i am not ruining this important topic with my high tech proposal for a solution.....
maybe it will be less stressful if you'll program the back up at a different hour....let's say ....when you are brushing yr teeth in the evening....BEFORE you go to sleep.
the back up (thanks god for SPB backup, it saved my ass so many times) takes only 3-4 minutes. right before you'll go to the lalala world you'll hear the reassuring vibe and you'll fall asleep with a smile on yr face knowing that the job is done.
good night, sweet prince. good night back-uped diamond....
I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution
someone1234 said:
I love how this topic gets so many replied but more usefull problems get none. Got to love the internet
I could code you a microcontroller to ignore any vibration signal for the first 30 seconds from start. All you'd need to do is open your diamond and solder it inside.
Hey its a solution
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lol! yr solution is very low tech comparing with mine...that's all you got?

How to stop startup vibration?

How to stop startup vibration? I detest this feature very much! help!
Im sorry to report I can't really help you with this as im no real genius on the matter but im guessing it may be due to some sort of P.O.S.T response on the device similar to the beep you here on some older pc's and laptop's. If so it may be easier for someone to find the right registry entry to change. Then again I may be talking out of my backside. Good Luck!
yinyfxda said:
How to stop startup vibration? I detest this feature very much! help!
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Are you talking about vibrate on connection ?
Start> phone> menu>options> advanced> uncheck vibrate device when connection is established.
He's talking about when you turn the device on..
I think he's talking about the vibrate when the phone boots (from a soft or hard reset, or from turning the phone completely off)
why so bother about that vibration?
What's it matter...? He still wants to turn it off....
I'd like to as well..
I means how to stop power-on vibration or hard or soft startup vibration. anyone has already stop the vibration, it's really boring!
i would actually be interested in that as well, i have my phone setup to automatically reset itself every day at 3 in the morning, and the vibration from the reset sometimes wakes me up.
yea, i dun like the vibration either.. But i doesnt make a very big deal though
My phone feels shaking , something loose from vibrating effect.
morizq said:
why so bother about that vibration?
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It is decreasing the battery life time , maybe not much for 1 boot.. but if you boot 20 times in a day.. ( god may know why ) Than it would be handy
freaknormel said:
It is decreasing the battery life time , maybe not much for 1 boot.. but if you boot 20 times in a day.. ( god may know why ) Than it would be handy
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I think the booting itself will require more power than the one short vibration at the beginning
Cryonic90 said:
I think the booting itself will require more power than the one short vibration at the beginning
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the vibrating sure isnt helping the battery life either and i would like to disable this also. 10+ resets a day here and each time it vibrates my wife thinks someone is texting me! lol
Additionally, can anyone help get rid of those red numbers during boot-up?
I know that's an obnoxiously complex task that may be impossible for seemingly little payoff, but consider:
1. They prevent using the entire display for splash images, unless you want it covered up for part of the time,
2. My friend is color-blind, and won't be able to tell if they're red, green, or purple - I don't want him to not be sure,
3. They could attract a bull, if you waved it around accidentally in Madrid,
Etc.
I'm sure you can tell there are no shortage of reasons.
Anyone have any ideas?
mikentucson said:
the vibrating sure isnt helping the battery life either and i would like to disable this also. 10+ resets a day here and each time it vibrates my wife thinks someone is texting me! lol
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If you're SR'ing 10 times a day, it's time to fix something on your phone.
khaytsus said:
If you're SR'ing 10 times a day, it's time to fix something on your phone.
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i probably flash just about every new rom thats posted in the rom section. that and i've been testing the android builds that get released

Strange problem, TD locked with black or VERY strange screen...

Since a week or so I've had some minor problems with my Diamond.
First after a couple of hours with no use, I saw the led blinking (hey, a new text messag, let's have a look) and the phone wouldn't wake up.
Even pressing the power button for a long time didn't make a difference, I resorted to taking out the battery and restarting it that way.
Everything was back to normal after turning it back on so I didn't really worry about it.
Until this weekend, I tried to wake it up from standby and the screen looked euhm... rather strange
I made a picture of it (please have a look at the attachment). In this state it didn't respond to any button, not even a long press of the power button.
While I was putting back my camera this screen disappeared and the normal touchflo was back, but still the device didn't respond to anything.
So again I resorted to removing the battery and everything has been fine eversince...
But now I'm a bit worried... Anyone have any idea what might be causing this? I must say it's been quite warm in my house the last week (about 27C) so I can imagine that temperature could have an effect...
Thanks for any suggestions.
Oh, I almost forgot..
It's a stock Dutch Diamond.
The latest ROM (2.03.404.3 NLD)
Radio 2.09.25.23
Protocol 52.51.25.26H
That's a cool screen saver!
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That's a cool screen saver!
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It sure is
My first thought was: Oeh! Capture it!!
But I couldn't start the screencap program because well... the screen didn't really work
I have seen too this strange screen in my Diamond a couple of times, but I couldn't tell the reason. I was forced to reset the device as well.
I'm curious about the reason, any ideas?
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I have seen too this strange screen in my Diamond a couple of times, but I couldn't tell the reason. I was forced to reset the device as well.
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Has your Diamond been functioning normally after that? Or has it developed more problems (and has perhaps been repaired)?
I'm a bit worried that this is the beginning of major problems...

Auto power-on driving me nuts

Whenever I leave the house, I unplug my Note to take it along but every time, before I stick it in my shirt pocket I have to turn it off first. That's because it on by itself just because I removed the charging cable. At first I thought this would just be a minor annoyance, but by the time I've needlessly turned off the thing a few hundred times the damn thing really starts to annoy me. And it's even worse when I try to charge it in my car because every time I turn the key one way or another I have to turn the phone off yet again. It's a bit more difficult because I have one of those silicon rubber protector things so it takes a little longer to find the off button. But I like the protection that this cover provides. I suppose I could just wait for the timeout (which I like at 5 minutes), but that would waste some battery power that I may need later. Plus it just annoys me if it is on when I'm not using it. (Actually it is the same problem when I plug it in to the charger as well!). So who decided on this ridiculous behavior? If it is an Android thing - shame on Google. If it is a Samsung thing - shame on them. (If so I might even switch phones ... although I haven't heard of another phone that can compete with the Note). Or is it just a quirk of my ROM? (I only used GB for an hour or so, and didn't have time to observe this behavior or not - then I flashed PA which I have been using ever since.) I love this ROM although I would switch in an instant if I could get rid of my only real annoyance with this phone.
~Paul
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Whenever I leave the house, I unplug my Note to take it along but every time, before I stick it in my shirt pocket I have to turn it off first. That's because it on by itself just because I removed the charging cable. At first I thought this would just be a minor annoyance, but by the time I've needlessly turned off the thing a few hundred times the damn thing really starts to annoy me. And it's even worse when I try to charge it in my car because every time I turn the key one way or another I have to turn the phone off yet again. It's a bit more difficult because I have one of those silicon rubber protector things so it takes a little longer to find the off button. But I like the protection that this cover provides. I suppose I could just wait for the timeout (which I like at 5 minutes), but that would waste some battery power that I may need later. Plus it just annoys me if it is on when I'm not using it. (Actually it is the same problem when I plug it in to the charger as well!). So who decided on this ridiculous behavior? If it is an Android thing - shame on Google. If it is a Samsung thing - shame on them. (If so I might even switch phones ... although I haven't heard of another phone that can compete with the Note). Or is it just a quirk of my ROM? (I only used GB for an hour or so, and didn't have time to observe this behavior or not - then I flashed PA which I have been using ever since.) I love this ROM although I would switch in an instant if I could get rid of my only real annoyance with this phone.
~Paul
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First the silicon protector that you put in your phone because it cover also the power when put it in your pocket it keeps triggering it, its like a hair trigger.
Of course when you plug the charger it will trigger the screen to on.
Why dont you just adjust the screen time out to one minute.
I dont have this problem but anyway, a quick fix would be to use Tasker which lets you easily automate everything in your phone
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Why dont you just adjust the screen time out to one minute.
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That would result in about as many needless and annoying presses of the power button as it turned off when I didn't want it to.
hotelier1984 said:
I dont have this problem but anyway, a quick fix would be to use Tasker which lets you easily automate everything in your phone
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That would be great if Tasker could turn it off again for me when it was turned on automatically. I took a quick look at the hardware events that tasker can act on such as:
Display: Off/On/Unlocked
File: File Closed/Deleted/Modified/Moved/Opened/Attributes Changed
Hardware: Camera Button, Search Button Long-Press, Card Mounted/Removed/Unmounted
Misc: Gesture, Shake
Phone: Missed Call, Phone Idle/Offhook/Ringing, Received Text, SMS Send Success/Failure
Power: Battery Changed/Full/Low/Overheating
System: Device Boot, Device Shutdown, Device Storage Low, Locale Changed, New/Removed/Updated Package, Wallpaper Changed
However being plugged in or out is not in this list. So how can it be done?
~Paul
I'd like to know too.
I can understand "screen on when charging cable plugged in". But its annoying as hell to have the screen on when charging cable is removed. Since 95% of the time it's going right into my pocket.
press the power button and screen will go of...
baz77 said:
press the power button and screen will go of...
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Sad to see such an ignorant reply. Or perhaps he just has a dry sense of humor. Hard to tell which.
~Paul
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let's understand this better:
Your phone is off and turns on upon disconnected from the charger, or it is already on, but you don't want the screen to lighten up when you disconnect?
If it's the first case, that's weird...mine never auto initiates...If the second case, really don't know what you could do.
If it's the first scenario, maybe a factory reset? But beware of the brick bug and flash a safe kernel first.
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pmennen said:
Whenever I leave the house, I unplug my Note to take it along but every time, before I stick it in my shirt pocket I have to turn it off first. That's because it on by itself just because I removed the charging cable. At first I thought this would just be a minor annoyance, but by the time I've needlessly turned off the thing a few hundred times the damn thing really starts to annoy me. And it's even worse when I try to charge it in my car because every time I turn the key one way or another I have to turn the phone off yet again. It's a bit more difficult because I have one of those silicon rubber protector things so it takes a little longer to find the off button. But I like the protection that this cover provides. I suppose I could just wait for the timeout (which I like at 5 minutes), but that would waste some battery power that I may need later. Plus it just annoys me if it is on when I'm not using it. (Actually it is the same problem when I plug it in to the charger as well!). So who decided on this ridiculous behavior? If it is an Android thing - shame on Google. If it is a Samsung thing - shame on them. (If so I might even switch phones ... although I haven't heard of another phone that can compete with the Note). Or is it just a quirk of my ROM? (I only used GB for an hour or so, and didn't have time to observe this behavior or not - then I flashed PA which I have been using ever since.) I love this ROM although I would switch in an instant if I could get rid of my only real annoyance with this phone.
~Paul
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Hey there Paul,
Man, that is one hell of an issue you have.
Anyway, I don't have much to advice you as I'm not using PA rom on my Note(for the moment ), but hey.. you said it for yourself that you were not able to test it thoroughly your Note before in GB right? only about an hour before flashing to PA?..hmm... logical advice I guess on my end would be to try to flash it back to GB again and observe it for 1 complete day to see if the same issue still occurs.
By the way.. you have a very sensitive Note there bud.
Again, going back to GB is the only way(if you we're to ask me), to confirm if the 'sensitivity' is still there or not anymore.
P.S. I might suggest to you to take out that screen rubber protector in the meantime also. Just use it 'naked' for a day on stock GB.
See how it goes after.
Cheers!
mtdelnero said:
let's understand this better:
Your phone is off and turns on upon disconnected from the charger, or it is already on, but you don't want the screen to lighten up when you disconnect?
If it's the first case, that's weird...mine never auto initiates...
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It's the 1st case. My phone is off and charging. I remove the charging cord and the screen just turns on despite the fact that I have not hit the power button - or any button for that matter.
I think it is more weird that you don't have this problem than the fact that I do. I've googled this and found many people complaining about it, but no explanations anywhere why it works this crazy way or how to fix it. And "Noodled24" who responded to my post above is yet one more person who is annoyed by this problem. I suspect there are thousands more (maybe even millions?), most of whom don't vocalize their annoyance.
BTW I'm being pretty glib with my use of the word "off". I'm really just referring to "screen off" - i.e. what happens when you briefly press the power button. I'm aware that this is not really off in the more conventional sense. If I power down using the power button long press, then no ... I don't have any problem with it turning on all by itself. So if this is part of the confusion, sorry about that. In fact, like most phone users, I almost never do a reboot (true power off) unless something goes wrong with the phone.
And recently I've found some people complaining about this problem regarding other Android devices, so I no longer think that this is a problem just with the Note, or just with the particular rom that I am using. Although I still don't know how wide spread the problem is.
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By the way.. you have a very sensitive Note there bud.
Again, going back to GB is the only way(if you we're to ask me), to confirm if the 'sensitivity' is still there or not anymore.
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I don't think my Note is "sensitive". I've very carefully removed the power cord many times (even without the rubber cover) to be sure that I am not touching the screen or any button whatsoever. And BTW the problem does not happen 90% or 99% or even 99.9% of the time. No - as far as I can tell the problem occurs 100% of the time!. So I wouldn't call my device "sensitive". I would just say that it has been improperly programmed to work in this bizarre fashion. Usually such programming mistakes can be fixed, which of course is why I have posted to this forum.
I don't think going back to GB will solve the problem. I think the same problem happened, although I can't be sure since as I mentioned before I didn't use GB for long before flashing to ICS (PA). However even if it did solve the problem, IMO going that far backwards wouldn't be a very attractive solution.
~Paul
So you don't have to go back to GB......screen turns on when unplugging my stock rooted GB. I think that is the normal behavior.
I agree, unplugging shouldn't turn on the screen, but Google does lots of things that don't make sense in real life usage.
kraz
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HELP! Mobile is keep turning off and then not turning on.

Hi,
First of all, Sorry for Bad English, Bear with me.
Long Story, Short!
It keeps happening!
It would turn off, won't reboot
Won't take charging
I will leave it for a while
If I leave it off after when I am tired trying to turn it on, a few hours later It will be WARM like it was being used, Then I would plugin again and THIS TIME IT WOULD TAKE CHARGE and EVEN REBOOT!!
After when I am using it for a while (10-12min) GOES BACK TO POINT 1
I ERASE EVERYTHING, FACTORY RESET IT, and This time.. IT would work for more than 10-12min,
I will install apps, login into the account, and then again... The same thing would start to happen! !
What Really Happen? Day ZERO!
I bought this Red Magic 3 phone 3 months ago and it was working super awesome and everything was great until last week after a 30-40 min gaming session on this phone, I went back to sleep and kept the phone on the table.
The next morning I noticed that the mobile is turned off, I thought Maybe battery drained so I plugged in to charge and continued with my morning routine.
After an hour I noticed that mobile is still not charging I tried plugging in and out multiple times and it didn't start charging, I checked the Data Cable on my MI MAX 2 (that also supports Type C) and Cable and Adapter were working fine.
I immediately realized that SOMETHING IS WRONG!!!
I saw some youtube video and I tried that Vol Key + Power Key thing and that Bios look alike menu opened up, I can see all the reboot, recovery boot, etc option but nothing worked.
So I picked the WIPE DATA option and It worked, Formatted the Phone and IT REBOOTED.
I figured maybe some software issue was causing it.
BUT SINCE THAT DAY it keeps happening!
It would turn off, won't reboot
Won't take charge when I plugin
I will leave it for a while
a few hours later It will be WARM like it was being used, Then I would plug in again and THIS TIME IT WOULD TAKE CHARGE and EVEN REBOOT!!
After when I am using it for a while (10-12min) GOES BACK TO POINT 1
Service Center
They are no help! They don't know what is wrong with it, Even they formatted it in front of me they did the Factory RESET it, I tried using it in Front of them for a while and the SAME THING HAPPENED!
then they installed some updates using some official package.
But still,
IT would work for more than 10-12min,
I will install apps, login in the account
suddenly... The same thing would start happening again!
Their Resolution is :
Motherboard issue and I will have to get the motherboard replaced.
This simply means EVEN THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS WRONG WITH IT and CHANGING EVERYTHING is their SOLUTION!
and they said it won't be covered on the warranty! Because the warranty has been voided BECAUSE THERE IS A SMALL CHIP on the phone! -_- which happens to be 40-50 days old.
I know is their Excuse to get money from me! Now I don't know what to do with it.
For me it was my first expensive mobile. I never bought a mobile for more than 200$.
Same thing for me.
Germany, Europe.
Download Ampere.
What's your battery health at, voltage, and how many ma draw when just sitting in that app.
I've learned my lesson with this company. A couple of extra capacitative buttons and a large battery are not a reason to buy a phone. The build quality is ok, the software abysmal (I still get random **** getting pressed when I unlock the phone), and support horrendous. Do yourself a favor, threaten to speak with the governing authority in your country regarding warranties. Tell them a small crack on the screen is not indicative of internal damage. Tell them you will post a youtube review of the company and phone if they do not abide by their warranty and fix your phone.
Once you fix your phone, sell it and cut your losses.
When will people learn YouTube won't do anything. You need subscribers to have any kind of weight. I'm at 2.4m lol.
I don't know the warranty laws in your country. I know here they have to prove that what you did was the cause. Nubia is really shady and not only scams but will flat out lie all the time. I seen people had bad battery's and they say they need a replacement board.
Just let me know what I asked and we can start going in a little deeper. Start off with the basics then move into some other stuff. Could be a simple easy fix.
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Any update?
I'm curious to see if this is a battery issue or something else
Mineapple said:
Same thing for me.
Germany, Europe.
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So What did You do....!
Ok I attempted to help you trouble shoot this issue and get it fixed but it's pretty clear this is an uphill battle and a waste of my time.
bignazpwns said:
Ok I attempted to help you troubleshoot this issue and get it fixed but it's pretty clear this is an uphill battle and a waste of my time.
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Thanks for your time.
I got the Battery Replaced thinking it was the issue but right after the installation. I turned it on to use it and it didn't work... I am still facing the same issue.. Meaning Battery was fine.. there is something else that causing it to turn off like this..!
Still, it acts like in COMA, then it heats up, I will charge it, It will boot.. If I will try using it ..it will turn off and won't turn back on!
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Any update?
I'm curious to see if this is a battery issue or something else
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Well.. I got the battery replaced and it was a waste of another 2,000INR. Still Facing the same issue. This means this Turning Off issue is not caused by the Battery.. It is due to something else..! :crying:

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