1.The radios that have been made by people are they meant to be better than the original.
2.Why do we need the custom ones.
3. What does signed and unsigned do.
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i am no n00b to flashing in general, as i have a wizard and have had to deal with both versions. a g3 device that has no security and my current g4 device. coming into these herald forums im confused as to what i MUST do to flash roms without any problems as long as i follow instructions. so here are my questions.
1. do i NEED to hardspl to be able to flash any rom without any security problems?
2. do you use the RUU updater to flash the nk.nbf that people put out or are the roms not distributed in nbf format?
3. if they arent in nbf format, is that when i use that herald-uspl file?
guys i am not dense, but i really like to be sure of what im doing. the wizard forums are A LOT more definitive and explain things much better. hence why i am making this thread. im sure much of the info has been duplicated and said many times, but i just need to clarify this before i flash my sisters device. if it was mine it would be different. thanks for the replys!
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gehzumteufel said:
i am no n00b to flashing in general, as i have a wizard and have had to deal with both versions. a g3 device that has no security and my current g4 device. coming into these herald forums im confused as to what i MUST do to flash roms without any problems as long as i follow instructions. so here are my questions.
1. do i NEED to hardspl to be able to flash any rom without any security problems?
2. do you use the RUU updater to flash the nk.nbf that people put out or are the roms not distributed in nbf format?
3. if they arent in nbf format, is that when i use that herald-uspl file?
guys i am not dense, but i really like to be sure of what im doing. the wizard forums are A LOT more definitive and explain things much better. hence why i am making this thread. im sure much of the info has been duplicated and said many times, but i just need to clarify this before i flash my sisters device. if it was mine it would be different. thanks for the replys!
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1) Nope, I use USPL to flash
2) USPL uses a hacked RUU to flash nbh files. We do not have nbf.
3) Just use USPL, its the safest way to go.
If you are looking for roms check out the herald rom thread.
If you still have questions about flashing, take a look at this --> All Important Links
Make sure you read everything carefully before making any modifications.
ICP-Fan said:
1) Nope, I use USPL to flash
2) USPL uses a hacked RUU to flash nbh files. We do not have nbf.
3) Just use USPL, its the safest way to go.
If you are looking for roms check out the herald rom thread.
If you still have questions about flashing, take a look at this --> All Important Links
Make sure you read everything carefully before making any modifications.
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thanks a ton for clarifying. really appreciate it!
i already found the rom thread..that is one thing thats GREAT about the herald sub-forums. the wizard ones have way to many roms going around to do it!
Now I'll begin by stating that I know very little about flashing and as much as the great people have tried to explain things. Its all a bit cryptic! especically when you see/read updates here and there. I did try to use the tutorial at the start of this thread (seemed easy enough) but hit a wall when I couldn't work out what I was supported to run RUU? Anyway I did find what I'd have to say is the perfect (read easiest) way to do these flashes. Its all based on the stuff the very smart people here have put together but is presented in a more 'user friendly' manner.
Visit: http://thewingster.com/roms.aspx
Choose your ROM (Wing or Touch Pro), I have a Wing and went with the following which allows you to choose what you want. I found choosing everything wasn't a good choice! So I went with the base, then I can install what extras I need afterwards.
http://thewingster.com/choic3s_1.aspx
Then follow the very easy instructions here:
http://thewingster.com/howtoflashnbhuspl.aspx
Note you dont have to worry about doing HardSPL and the like (it must do that as part of the manger software - and you can run it multiple times!! I did as I write I'm on my 3rd ROM!!)
Then you're good to go! I wish I'd found this and 'understood' how easy this was. Kudos to the wingster for doing this, just wish he'd make it even more obvious how easy it is to do! (remember we're all paranoid about bricking our phones!)
Well I hope this helps those who like me was clueless - I might still be clueless but I'm now running WinMob 6.5!
Oh I should also point out that the requirement for SPL 4.XXX still applies (see first post for how to work this out) and I have no affliliation with wingster - just greatful!!
Flashing custom ROMs without first being HardSPL is not advisable or safe for your device. Certain ROMs do not require it, but it is highly recommended as it virtually brick-proofs your phone, and it is fully reversible if you ever need to go back to shipped condition.
Also, this is not posted in the correct forum. This is the Herald Mobile 6 forum, not 6.5, and should be posted in the Herald forum.
They're right!
They're right; the Wingster website is fantastic and I've downloaded just about everything that is on the site and backed it up on a partition. Just do exactly what these instructions tell you to do and once your phone is HardSPL; it literally takes an act of God to brick your phone.
i dont kno if this question has been posted it probably has but i cant find it
which is the best spl for me i like flashing many custom roms like kings 2.1 and other stuff
i guess i would prefer speed
and giv me a link plz thanks much
This is what you will use. It is completely safe if you follow those instructions. Don't let the name scare you.
Death SPL will give you the best compatibility with any ROM and the only thing you have to be careful of is DON'T flash an old radio or anything that includes an old radio (RC29, etc.). Other than that, it's good to go.
First off, Thank you to all the dev's who've put out all the great roms (too many to mention)....
But, as I was reading through some of the most recent releases of roms, I found myself more and more frustrated with confusion. It wasn't the screenshots (thanks, it helps), it wasn't the list of changes/additions/subtractions (that really helps), it was more the complex install info.
I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but why would you go off on a tangent to left field while your writing down how to install something? Can we get a universal install procedure?
Most roms are released within hours and in some cases days of one another. Lets assume that rom a has what newest rom b needs and create something from that. Then if you need to express random thought for the new guy, that could be post #2. I guarentee that most of the people here have flashed and re-flashed and soft bricked and flashed again.
Guess what I'm trying to say is, rom dev's are releasing things that probably no one will use cause they aren't clear and concise on the install procedure.
FroztIkon said:
First off, Thank you to all the dev's who've put out all the great roms (too many to mention)....
But, as I was reading through some of the most recent releases of roms, I found myself more and more frustrated with confusion. It wasn't the screenshots (thanks, it helps), it wasn't the list of changes/additions/subtractions (that really helps), it was more the complex install info.
I'm not trying to hurt anyone's feelings, but why would you go off on a tangent to left field while your writing down how to install something? Can we get a universal install procedure?
Most roms are released within hours and in some cases days of one another. Lets assume that rom a has what newest rom b needs and create something from that. Then if you need to express random thought for the new guy, that could be post #2. I guarentee that most of the people here have flashed and re-flashed and soft bricked and flashed again.
Guess what I'm trying to say is, rom dev's are releasing things that probably no one will use cause they aren't clear and concise on the install procedure.
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I see your on super nova. Have you looked at Mosaic. I tried to make the directions as simple as i could
right now with the recent port of the i9000 2.3.3 things have changed.
and changed very recently.
soon enough there will be an easier, more standard way to upgrade.
but keep this in mind....
what we are doing here is programming a phone. the devs AND YOU!
programming an electronic device is not a simple thing, and is not childs play.
the devs have YEARS of experience in programming to bring us the software,
we need to understand what we are doing in order to do it.
so we need to understand programming.
this cannot be done in 10 minutes by just reading instructions.
and this SHOULD NOT be able to be done in 10 minutes by reading instructions.
there are real risks in doing this, that is why it voids your warranty.
you need to understand what you are doing to be able to do it.
thats why you must LEARN in order to do this.
nobody ever learns with brain-dead instructions.
the more you LEARN first, before flashing, the better your chances at success.
the easier the instructions the easier noobs run into problems! Brick their device or get scared and confused about very simple things that they should have understood first!
so the complexity has a dual purpose, it forces you to go out and LEARN before you do anything AND also provides you with alot of information to start learning
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TRusselo said:
right now with the recent port of the i9000 2.3.3 things have changed.
and changed very recently.
soon enough there will be an easier, more standard way to upgrade.
but keep this in mind....
what we are doing here is programming a phone. the devs AND YOU!
programming an electronic device is not a simple thing, and is not childs play.
the devs have YEARS of experience in programming to bring us the software,
we need to understand what we are doing in order to do it.
so we need to understand programming.
this cannot be done in 10 minutes by just reading instructions.
and this SHOULD NOT be able to be done in 10 minutes by reading instructions.
there are real risks in doing this, that is why it voids your warranty.
you need to understand what you are doing to be able to do it.
thats why you must LEARN in order to do this.
nobody ever learns with brain-dead instructions.
the more you LEARN first, before flashing, the better your chances at success.
the easier the instructions the easier noobs run into problems! Brick their device or get scared and confused about very simple things that they should have understood first!
so the complexity has a dual purpose, it forces you to go out and LEARN before you do anything AND also provides you with alot of information to start learning
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Nice long post. Although alot of rambling Tru but I like your last line
As for a standard set of installation instructions, I dont think we will ever see it. Each rom is as unique as the person that developed it, and with that individuality comes an individual requirement for implementation.
ATM some ginger roms are wipes, some arent, this used to be true for all froyo/eclair roms.
that is why we USED TO have to flash to stock each time. same now. (for non wipe roms)
that changed! it can again!
as for getting the bootloaders, if you are installing a WIPE rom you dont need to flash the whole i9000 package. Just the bootloaders alone and ONLY ONCE. some roms currently use this method.
other roms that arent wipe roms depend on apps and framework to be there, or might not like other stuff left over that may still be there. so it is necessary to flash back to i9000 stock, this can be done with or without bootloaders if you already have them. but most of the non bootloaders packages have been taken down. once again you only need to get the bootloaders once.
once again all this can change and standardize again. with the following intructions:
from eclair or froyo
1. odin flash GB bootloader and CMW3 kernel in a single package. (small 4 MB package!)
2. boot into CWM3 and flash a WIPE ROM.
done and upgraded.
my fastest upgrade was one extra step. the bootloader package had re-orient kernel with no cwm3 so i had to reboot and odin flash talon between step 1 and 2.
still pretty easy with a wipe rom.
we grow up so quickly...
I have a Sprint HTC hero with original everything.
I've been wanting to do a mod but that brings up a few questions.
1) A lot of places say the CM7 mod from here is great for this phone but I clicked around and can't find a list of things it changes/improves. Why would I install a mod and will most things continue to work (market places, email, phone utilities, purchased apps).
2) All roms have those warnings that they void warranty. How often do they brick the device? Is this something I should worry about?
Sorry for the noobish questions but I am looking towards modding the hero but I want to make sure I don't make it worse.
1.) well basically MOD's are roms that people cook themselves from the scratch android or from a base like for example the DesireHD android base. They can do things varying from the look and feel of android to adding elements like being able to browse Privately on your browsers. i know that CM7 allows you to do that. Being able to flash different roms opens up a even bigger Android World.
2.) I have been flashing back and forth for a long time and not once have i bricked the device. Besides not like a little system restore wont fix anything. Also if you happen to send you device into maintenance or repair just restore you phone back to factory settings. All of it is reversible. When i first started out it helped me to really read NOOB forums so i didn't do something i would regret, but you should have nothing to really worry about.
reply from a still nearly noob, although i read alot about roms already and flashed my sgs2. ill just attemt to help you a little here.
1) i now flashed lite'ning rom on my phone as there is no cm7 for it yet. once realeased i will also flash it as i also read that it is the most widely used rom with best support. within a thread of the specific rom there should be a list of improvements/major changes or what will be added if you flash the rom. these and mostly more battery life and/or more speed are the reasons people flash roms. after flashing the phone you will have all the things still working, sometimes even better. for apps it depends on the rom. mine for example didnt require a wipe that delets all you data on the phone. others (as i think cm7 also) require a wipe of all you on-phone personal data apps and so on (not sd card if im not mistaken, please correct me!)
2)yes, you void warranty if you flash a custom rom, root or do sth else on the firmware not published by the manufacturer. when i flashed and overflashed my phones rom for several time already i haven't had any problems. and as i read all over the net/xda there is just a very little chance to brick your phone and even there you might have possibilities to revive it, i think. but im not sure on this, cosider others informations first!
hope i could help you a little from noob to noob and enjoy flashing roms. oh and of course have a look in the htc hero android development section for roms!
cheers!
IQHU
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Go to this thread and start reading some of the linked threads. All your answers can be found there.