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Is it required to HardSPL our device each time we want to flash a new rom?
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My logical thinking tells me that once we flash HardSPL we wont have to keep doing it every time we want to flash a new rom. But I could be wrong as my logic may be flawed and I didnt think it through more deeply.
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I almost don't believe in such question, did you read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
If you use HardSPL you have to flash it only one time, then you can flash all the roms you want
But you can use USPL too, in this case you have to use it every time before flashing a new rom.
Then, if you want to test a lot of roms, I suggest to use HardSPL. If you want only to change your rom with another and you want to stay with it for a long time then use USPL.
I hope I've helped you, good luck
davideuck said:
If you use HardSPL you have to flash it only one time, then you can flash all the roms you want
But you can use USPL too, in this case you have to use it every time before flashing a new rom.
Then, if you want to test a lot of roms, I suggest to use HardSPL. If you want only to change your rom with another and you want to stay with it for a long time then use USPL.
I hope I've helped you, good luck
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Great Answer!! 1000 brownie points awarded to you. Thank You.
speed200 said:
I almost don't believe in such question, did you read this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=431217
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I don't believe you understood my previous question. I was asking how to flash but if I need to HardSPL every time I want to try a new rom. But thanks for trying your best to help answer.
Hi bro You dont required to flash hardspl everythime you flash a new rom, it should also mentioned there on the wiki, once u have hardspled ur device you can flash as often as u like , unless on a weird occasion ur hardspl is overritten which is unlikely.
I will close this thread now.
I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.
Okay got me a new g1 with 1.1 on it. And I want to root. Where do I start?
Btw I had a mytouch 3g yesterday. But hated it so much I just had to have the g1. The keybored is so much better
start here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442480
Yeah I've read that thread so many times. Also I'm on rc33. And something I forgot to put in my post is what is all the up todate stuff. Like spl,radio. You know all that stuff. All the help would be awesome.
I've also watched a ton of videos of how to do this. So I hope I do it right the first time
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Yeah I've read that thread so many times. Also I'm on rc33. And something I forgot to put in my post is what is all the up todate stuff. Like spl,radio. You know all that stuff. All the help would be awesome.
I've also watched a ton of videos of how to do this. So I hope I do it right the first time
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Then next you need to flash the recovery image from telnet. Then the new radio, a cupcake rom and then an SPL. If you want to try Hero, you'll need Haykuro's SPL (which needs the radio before hand or you'll brick your phone).
Okay. I've heard a lot about doing radio first. And nope for the hero rom. I think it should stay on the hero phone.
But as far as roms. where do I find the cupcake rom?
Also thanks for the help so far. I know some will pop on this thread and tell me to use the search bar. But I like asking the questions myself
Also how do I know what radio and spl go together?
you just want the two newest ones. unless you want the haykuro spl
Yeah I just want the two newest ones. But how do I find out which ones are the newest?
The most I want to do with my g1 is apps2sd. Themes, and tethering
here is a useful list of radio updates with what roms they work on:
http://code.google.com/p/android-roms/wiki/Radio_Update
Where are you up to? You have RC33 and have flashed the recovery image?
You will want this radio. It's the newest one and will work with all cupcake ROMS. Flash that before the cupcake ROM. The ROM is your choice, if you just want a simple ROM then Jesus Freke's 1.51 is just cupcake with root, simple as. Cyanogen's ROM has lots of optimizations and allows for automatic APPS2SD as long as you have an ext3 partition and there are lots of themes for it.
I think he's still unrooted and running RC33.
For the record, some modified Cupcake builds need the Haykuro SPL to work properly (i.e. JACxROM).
AdrianK said:
Where are you up to? You have RC33 and have flashed the recovery image?
You will want this radio. It's the newest one and will work with all cupcake ROMS. Flash that before the cupcake ROM. The ROM is your choice, if you just want a simple ROM then Jesus Freke's 1.51 is just cupcake with root, simple as. Cyanogen's ROM has lots of optimizations and allows for automatic APPS2SD as long as you have an ext3 partition and there are lots of themes for it.
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thanks rpope904 and Adriank
but right now i just got home. and im getting everything ready before i get to rooting.
and the memory card ext3 ill have to read more about before doing that.
what about spl's?
okay im stuck! i got to the telnet app. and well it wont connect to the server or something. i did all the steps. i dont know why it wont connect
never mind. i got it now. i just had to do a few steps again
Cool It took me a few tries on starting telnetd, I couldn't get the contact search to open pressing enter twice.. But, it finally did, and worked
so what should i do after i get root?
i dont know if i should update to JF 1.4 rc33 first
then update to JF 1.5.
or can i just update to the 1.5 and not do the others?
G-Fetus6 said:
Okay got me a new g1 with 1.1 on it. And I want to root. Where do I start?
Btw I had a mytouch 3g yesterday. But hated it so much I just had to have the g1. The keybored is so much better
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tell me what to do actually and i will try to show u what u need to download and do first. theres a really good youtube video on how to root by gadgetpro
do u want a cupcake or hero build?
first and foremost you should decide on what ROM you want to use, i think most people now use the Cyanogen ROMs because he is constantky updating and it is pretty fast and there are themes. second you *should* not need but should have the latest radio and the HardSPL there are only a few SPLs, Hard, Stock, Dev/engineering, and Haykuro(stay away unless you know what you are doing. once you have the Hard SPL and the recovery image from JF(i believe the latest is 1.42 or 1.43) then you are great and can flash any update.zip you want. after you decide the ROM you want then you just have to flash it
there is no best rom just like there is no best woman, the best one is the one you like most, so don't ask. READ READ READ READ READ READ READ and SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH SEARCH those are the best nuggets of knowlege i can drop on you right now
im trying to install the eclair 2.0.1 on my g1
but whenever i try to run the installation it get aborted
i wiped all my data
created 3 partitions (fat32 ext3 linux)
im trying to run it from the recovery menu
why is the operationg gets aborted
thx for the helpers
Start by reading the rules of the forum.
Using the search button
and posting in the right section if you haven't find your answer.+
Thanks
I suppose you are refering to eugenes rom. If yes then write this in his thread. If no, dont start a new thread in the developer section....
Anyway, i had problems cuz i was running out of battery. While charging, it worked
U should have asked this question in the thread that u got the rom from not make a new thread. Second. Ur problem is that u don't have the danger spl. Plz do more research
i refer to eugene rom
and my phone is in charge now
what can i do to make it work
do i even suppose to flash it from recovery mode?
ok thx ill download danger spl and see what happens
titanos said:
ok thx ill download danger spl and see what happens
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READ, READ, READ and then, when you are sure you know everything READ some more.
Its called Danger SPL for a reason.
titanos said:
i refer to eugene rom
and my phone is in charge now
what can i do to make it work
do i even suppose to flash it from recovery mode?
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I really, really don't want to sound condescending... but Eugene373's Eclair ROM is highly experimental, and even experienced hacker/developers struggle to get it usable on their devices. If you didn't know that you needed the Danger SPL, or you weren't 100% sure how to flash it... you definitely don't want it. It's intended for testers to use and help fix issues, not for daily use. A lot of stuff is still broken on it. So, listen carefully: This is NOT intended to be used on the phone you use every day for making calls and such. This is for testing purposes. If that's not your cuppa tea, try Cyanogen, Dwang, TheOfficial, or if you're feeling bold and risky, try WesGarner's neat tweak of Cyanogen's ROM with the 10Mb RAM hack.
So I just picked up an original T-Mobile branded G1. It's got the stock 1.6 firmware on it now. I would like to try running 2.2 on it but I have absolutely no idea how to go about it.
So far I have determined that there are more flavours to choose from than at a baskin robbins. I'm also completely lost when it comes to radios, kernals, bootloaders and other things expressed as three letter acronyms.
Could anyone suggest a good solid 2.2 firmware and the specific supporting bits and pieces I will need to make it work? I really want to see this phone shine.
Like everything else, read the development forum on the ROM. Do a research on what each ROM will do. Some ROM needs a specific SPL (HBOOT) and radio in order for it to work properly. As you already know (from your post) there are many different flavor of ROMs. Some deal with speed, and performance. Other deal with functionality of the apps. Most of them if not all are on 2.3 at this point.
You will have to sit down and read the instruction once you decided which ROM you wants.
Most everyone love Gingerbread series (specifically Gingerbread Yoshi and ezGingerbread).
I, myself, started with CM 6.0.0 RC1 (2.2) and after it crashed on me I end up loading SuperAosp DM 2.8.2 (with 2.3 on it) with the recommendation by one of the member here. It is fast performance, and that what I need.
So, you'll have to decide what you want to do with your G1 before you flash it with a custom ROM.
I have done this, this week end.
Here there is a post about the ROM
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4647751&postcount=1
and this one for the radio i find
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=640535
i suggest you to do a Nandroid backup before, and format your SDCARD ( i didnt done this, but i read about some problems to install the rom) and you will reboot your device after changing Recovery and After flashing the rom. and htc logo take a while befor showing cyanogem mod.
tell here if you find problems
So everyone says good things about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620. It seems a good place to start. But I'm still a n00b. What, precisely, do I need to do with my bone stock (But unlocked) G1 to install it? Do I need to root it first?
"If you refuse to upgrade or can't upgrade because you have a 32a (1.2 or classic) device: you will need an alternative kernel as described in step 4.b 4.c or the phone will not boot
Note: 2.22.27.08 will also work but is not how the ota was shipped
* Uesrs of other SPLs can either use Danger (dream only), any sapphire SPL on the magic/sapphire/MT3G or alternatively Custom MTD I recommend "87 2" (system/cache) {as of test3 06bindcache will work if you install the parts package, thus if you use CustomMTD parts is mandatory to avoid market issues} "
Does that just mean I need http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=831139? Then why does it say "Please note this includes my 20101106 - 2708 ported kernel"
What is an SPL? What's this about Danger? What's fastboot?
I'm much better with a soldering iron than software.
Jax184 said:
So everyone says good things about http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=811620. It seems a good place to start. But I'm still a n00b. What, precisely, do I need to do with my bone stock (But unlocked) G1 to install it? Do I need to root it first?
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You will need to root your phone, if you want to flash custom ROM. Unlocking it is just so you can use it on other network.
BTW! I was a noob at this probably a week or so ago, when I first started to work on upgrading my G1. Now I am learning the rope and helping others.