Hi,
I've been reading all the post and wondering with the fix can the phone be used in the US(New York City)? I'm with T-Mobile, which doesn't have 3G. I'm looking for an alternative to the iphone. Any feed back for be a great help!
Thanks all!
archboy
the phone would work fine on tmobile... only ATT customers would have issues seeing as the phone doesnt have the 850 band.
I am on ATT and just spent a week in Manhatten using my Diamond everywhere I went. I always had two to four bars, never fewer. The phone even worked in some elevators, which surprised me. There is no 3G available, but I usually had Edge available while in Manhatten. and of couse there is wifi.
You can check coverage of the frequencies used by various carriers here:
http://www.gsmworld.com/roaming/gsminfo/cou_us.shtml
With the 05 radio the diamond is us friendly (sans 3g)
bigwill3 said:
With the 05 radio the diamond is us friendly (sans 3g)
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what about for data?
Works fine for data, just no 3G as already mentioned. I'm not a heavy data user, mostly just light browsing, weather, etc, and EDGE has been working fine for me.
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Hi,
I often take my XDA2i on the move but rarely seem able to pick up a wifi connection.
I've tried sitting outsite people's homes, outside shops and all sort but rarely succeed.
Can anyone offer any suggestions?
Cheers
Simon
Sign up with a provider or an aggregator like www.boingo.com. With 3G and 3.5G wifi access is becoming less and less important imho. You must be, like me, due for an upgrade.
Vario II + Web 'n' Walk = slight need for wifi
Hi,
The thing with these directories is you have to be online to know where the online locations are! Crazy!
Not sure what you mean by 3G - is my XDA2i going to be useless soon!?
Tell me more!
Cheers
Simon
Here is a few site you might be interested in:
http://www.wififreespot.com/europe.html
http://www.free-hotspot.com/
http://www.jiwire.com/
http://en.fon.com/
simonp820 said:
Not sure what you mean by 3G - is my XDA2i going to be useless soon!?
Simon
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Yout phone is GSM/GPRS, Already there is EDGE (in some countries) which is faster and GSM technology. Also deployed is UTMS (3G) [~384 kbit/s] and coming is HSDPA. The last gives 5+ * UMTS download.
Google for any of the acronyms to learn more.
Does the Alpine not have 3G?
Does the Alpine not have 3G?
No the Alpine does not have 3g. It is GSM.
No the Alpine does not have 3g. It is GSM. ;-)
kevino said:
simonp820 said:
Not sure what you mean by 3G - is my XDA2i going to be useless soon!?
Simon
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Yout phone is GSM/GPRS, Already there is EDGE (in some countries) which is faster and GSM technology. Also deployed is UTMS (3G) [~384 kbit/s] and coming is HSDPA. The last gives 5+ * UMTS download.
Google for any of the acronyms to learn more.
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At present, HSDPA is only available within the M25 area and VERY few high-density urban areas outside of London, and it's only available on Vodafone afaik, so it's not so practical just yet
I wouldn't give up on wifi just yet, I signed up to credecard , which you pay for minutes at wifi hotspots, but every month they give you ten minutes' access at any supported hotspot FREE (yes, free) and only begin to charge you (per minute) if you go over. The first month you sign up, you get half an hour's free usage! Not bad huh, and you can use it on TheCloud hotspots and loads of other ones.
OK, so there's EDGE, GSM, GPRS, GMRS, HSDPA, HSUPA, UTMS and WiFi, so where does WAP come into all this?
lol
and I thought 3G/UTMS was about 1.8Mbps?
sebastian
Simple instructions for getting POINTUI installed on XDA11i
Simple instructions for installing the POINTUI program onto my XDA11i .
Thank you.
My alpine is great for this job. I can connect to wifi networks on 2 coffee bars (..) that have unsecured networks in my town, while i'm in the shop but also 10 meters away from it. Compared to blue angel and prophet that i have tested so far..alpine with wm2003se has great wifi reception.
Any chance of sending/posting some information on your Wi Fi settings ... please ??
A friend of mine just purchased the Kaiser to be used on the at&t network. He lives in a 3G area in the USA and for some reason, his phone will not hold the 3G connection. It wants to switch to Edge. Is there a manual setting to stop this from happening or a new utility to enable/disable certain connection. Is this normal for 3G to do this. Any information I can pass on would be greatful.
Thanks
I think it's an indication that 2G is stronger than 3G in your area. My Kaiser always hold 3G connection all the time where I live. You can "manually" force 3G. Here is one the many ways to do it: on Windows Start menu, go to "Setting" then "Phone" (on the "Personal" tab), click "Band" tab, then use "WCDMA" for network type selection (default is "Auto")
Thanks for the help. I'll pass it on.
While the Kaiser is my first ppc type phone and I cannot claim to be expert I do think that this is a normal reaction of the phone to what networks are available.
I live in San Jose Ca. and must, perchance, move up and down the peninsula in the normal course of work and life.
I see my Kaiser switching from Edge to 3G to unnamed all up and down the peninsula. It is best for 3G in the cities and worse up in the hills -as one might expect. I also get the best 3G connections in the evenings and night vs. the daytime when, I assume, more 3G users are taking up bandwidth.
It is unfortunate that where I live is an Edge (during the daytime) area though I am paying for the 3G data plan.
3G issues with the TyTnII
Hello all:
I post on the AT&T HTC forumn and had this thread sent to me by another poster there.
I also have a TyTnII newly aquired from MobilePlanet on Weds. I am having the same issues with 3G. It briefly flashed the G icon on boot up then switches to Edge with all 5 bars. I've tried the manual mode fix, no luck. The wcdma gets no signal and the gsm goes back up to 5 bars same as auto.
Then theres the inability to register my serial # on HTC's EU site. Says SN is invalid... MP has had several reports of EU devices doing this.
I'm in the US, NorthEast NJ area. And in the middle of a known 3G area.
Bill
Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
Thanks
wise87 said:
Can anyone help Bill out? How many of you CAN use 3G on the USA at&t network without a problem? He's trying to see if it's a setting issue or a phone issue. I'm not in a 3G area so I can't help him here.
Thanks
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I get a 3g signal when I go into Philly (I live about 45 minutes outside the city) It holds it just fine as well. Is it possible you just have weak 3g coverage where you are? I actually shut off the 3g on my phone as I have no 3g coverage at work or at home and the 3g connection discharges the battery in a hury.
I'm on AT&T as well.
Oh - BTW - I also can't register my phone with the eClub either. I sent an Email to the HTC Webmaster but have not had any reply in 3 days. I'm not too confident in HTC's support.
Any one else here using the HTC Diamond on Rogers network here in Canada?
I just purchased my Diamond a few days ago to replace my HTC 3600P. My 3600P connected to Rogers 3G network perfectly fine and I was able to get broadband speeds.
Now, with the Diamond I can only get GPRS (G icon on the phone) and Edge (E icon on the phone).
I am not sure if this had anything to do with it, but unlike the 3600P, when first setting up the Diamond it ask if I wanted the phone to auto detect the network and auto configure the phone. I selected yes.
In the phone settings under network tab, the network selection is set to Automatic. Under the Band tab, both select your network type and select your GSM/UMTS band is set to auto.
is my phone setup correctly, or is it that the Diamond doesn't work with Rogers 3G network only GPRS/EDGE? If this is the case now, could a ROM update fix this?
I really need broadband speeds on my work and am seriously considering returning the phone, as I specially asked the store I purchased it from here in Toronto if it would work on Rogers 3G network like my HTC 3600P and they said yes.
Current Diamond models (EU and Asia) do NOT support North American 3G bands. There was some talk from Rogers that the 900MHz band would be support but for now GPRS is as fast as you will get with your Diamond.
Just to add confirmation to what NikoL has said.
No 3G with the Diamond on Rogers.
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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To be honest buddy, it all depends on Rogers if they support that band that your missing. If they arent going to enable it on their network then you will never get 3G on the Diamond that you have now. So its a 50-50 chance they may or may not...probably better off asking them if you ring them. Im sure they will tell you if they have any intentions of enabling that band on their network.
Now if it was me, id return it and wait for the North American version which should be released next month hopefully. But this is me personally...im in the UK and i couldnt live without 3G myself...blazing fast on my nokia n95 8gb which i sold and at the moment im having to make do with GPRS because my nokia 8600 luna only does GPRS.
SkankAgent said:
Thanks for the feedback! Much appreciated!
My question now is will my ASIAN/UK diamond ever work on Roger's 3G network? If yes, any idea how long this will take?
I really need broadband speed on my mobile phone for work. I still have my HTC 3600P which works fine on the Rogers 3G.
I am trying to justify keeping the phone or returning it.
Worth holding on to?
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What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
citats said:
What are you doing that requires 3g?
Edge and GPRS don't imped stuff like email sync, syncml, or minor web browsing.
If you need to use remote access like RPD or UVNC then sell the phone. Roger's isn't about to turn on 900mhz as that requires changing the match on existing infrastructure. It makes far more sense for them to push toward LTE tech rather then waste it on whats going out.
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I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
SkankAgent said:
I work in the streaming media industry, hence I definately require broadband on my mobile phone/device.
For now, I guess I will keep using my HTC P3600 which works perfectly fine on Rogers 3G and hope that the north amercian version of the Diamond will support Rogers 3G or on the tail end, that a ROM update for the Asian verision will 'turn on' the required freq to support Roger's 3G.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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I would imagine the N American version of the Diamond would support 3G in Canada...as for a rom update to enable the asian version that you have now to use 3G??..i doubt it very much as its a hardware issue. The diamond you have is missing that 3G attenna.
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You are correct about the ROM update. I called HTC Canada and confirmed this with their support department. I guess, I'll be putting my Diamond up for sale on ebay (as my local dealer refuses to take back the phone - last time I'll ever purchase from them, as I specifically asked about it working on Rogerrs prior to purchase) and wait for the North Amercian verision.. or see how the new 3G iphone stands up when it is released here on July 11th.
Hello guys, I have a diamond and am using my 3 UK Simcard 3G is fine (in fact its pretty darn good most of the time) but I never get HSDPA which I did occasionally get with my Orange SIM.
Does anyone use 3 UK and the Touch Diamond and what's your experience with HSDPA?
I am also using a 3 simcard and get H most of the time, the best way to see if you should be getting HSDPA is to click on the link below and enter your postcode to see what coverage is available in your area
Also .05 is a lot better than .03 of the radio as well
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/coverage_/broadbandCoverageChecker.do
I live in Greater Manchester in the UK and use the 3 UK network. Admittedly the reception isn't as good as it was with my N95. I now lose 3G reception around at my brothers which I didn't previously but when I do have 3G reception I almost always get HSDPA and browsing on Opera is ALOT faster than it was on my N95.
I have just clicked to open Opera and once the 3G internet connection was opened it instantly switched to 3 bars HSDPA.
I am using the .05 radio
I have just checked the coverage checker and I should get HSDPA at my brothers house too but I struggle with 3G so as we know the radios need some work.
hmm curious
I also use 05 radio have XSeries Gold but have not once seen a H - not with any packet connection up or down with 3 SIM - funny thing is I live in London - its really bugging me LOL.
Keep the feedback coming guys
Experiment time
I am going to use trackme to save my GPS route after a long drive round areas and upload a KML file for Googlemaps to create the route and see if should be getting HSDPA in those areas - that will prove it to me
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I am also using a 3 simcard and get H most of the time, the best way to see if you should be getting HSDPA is to click on the link below and enter your postcode to see what coverage is available in your area
Also .05 is a lot better than .03 of the radio as well
http://www.three.co.uk/personal/coverage_/broadbandCoverageChecker.do
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Tried that and it says my area is fully enabled!
Hard reset fixed HSDPA
Well, after a hard reset HSDPA surfaced and initial tests show around 1.8mbps - yey
As far as making and receiving phone calls, do you use 3g? Any phone I've ever seen that uses 3g absolutely sucks. My dad's phone, my mom's phone, my girlfriend's phone, my phone. What happens is the call either doesn't go through. If you listen to the dial tone it has a small click right before each tone, if I hear that, it mean's the call isn't going through.
My mom and girlfriend have gone through replacements on their phone, but the 3g still sucks. I've even noticed they don't get that great of reception.
Even on my Tilt, if I switch to 3G i only have 2 bars and apparently people have complained of calling me but I never received the call. Now with Edge, I have full bars, and no one ever complains about the call not going through.
So what's your guy's take on 3g?
Similar to what you've experienced. I generally leave mine turned off the majority of the time, since I have the WiFi running when I'm at home anyway. I turn it on only when I need to browse the web or something when I'm out and about.
Not to mention the immense battery drain that 3G demands. My battery life is dramatically better on Edge as opposed to 3G.
Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G) can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G), plus the Touch HD, Omnia and i780 can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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I don't experience network issues as bad as the OP seems to have, but I've always had terrible battery life on my Tilt and my iPhone, my two most recent 3G devices. My 8525 was actually very good on the battery with 3G running all day long, never had a problem getting through the day.
Maybe the intermittent GPS usage on the latter two? I don't know.
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Your provider needs to update/fix their network. This is not a device issue, it's a network issue. Proper 3G (well, 3.5G / HSPA, not just UMTS per se) should also use less power than GSM / EDGE for transfers... (in watt/kbps, though)
I know for a fact that all devices in my signature (that support 3G) can work perfectly with 3G on a proper network.
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I should go in and ask them about it, just to see what they say. Ask them why the new and greatest 3g is worse than edge. I have AT&T, I live in Washington, and I live right by a Cell tower too (only a 2 or 3 blocks away from it).
I woudln't mind using it for data but the fees here are prohibitive for private use. We use it on our work phones for data and it works well on Telstra.
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I should go in and ask them about it, just to see what they say. Ask them why the new and greatest 3g is worse than edge. I have AT&T, I live in Washington, and I live right by a Cell tower too (only a 2 or 3 blocks away from it).
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They'll probably say it ain't so Thing is, when 3G first got rolled out here, we had much the same issues. The big providers here spent some $$$ to replace "faulty" hardware at the towers, and voila, the problem disappeared (2 years ago?). Seems many 3G networks around the world have similar issues to the ones you described in the opening post. I have a sneaking suspicion that one of the 3G cell-tower hardware manufacturers - probably the cheapest and hence most used - makes some really crappy equipment. I could almost imagine that manufacturer is Qualcomm
In all seriousness though, all I know for sure is we had these issues here too, and they fixed them by fixing the towers. (Though of course there is some difference between different devices and how well they do 3G)
From talking to some guys at work Telstra's 3G network has been pretty much flawless for them asides from cost issues associated with Telstra.
I live in indonesia and never have any problem with 3G,. , the only problem is, its expensive,. lol,.
I am in NZ
No problems with 3G whatsoever. Have Imate JasJar - loving every second of it.
New Jersey, USA
3G has always seem pretty good around here in New Jersey with AT&T, but I'm 25 minutes from New York, so imagine how many towers they have on the tri-state area (New York, New Jersey and Connecticut). Very rare to lose 3G reception (exept on the iPhone 3G that everybody complains about losing it often). But important to mention also is that Kearny, town where my sister lives, I lose reception a 100%, my phone's reception just dies, and when I switch it to GSM instead of 3G...voila. Full signal strenght.
wow.. the results turned out quite different than I imagined.
Obviously it's just in my area that 3G sucks. I really wish they would fix this, considering that every phone released now is 3G...and you think someone would notice... well, I'm sure if I wait long enough people will start to notice, but who knows,
I can't remember the last time I had problems with 3G. though I remember before Cingular got bought by AT&T and they were just rolling out there 3G, I used to have problems then, I guess it was due to them configuring/re-configuring the towers. I think the engineers were just going by what the manual said, which weren't the best settings for each area.
I'm on 3G all day everyday on the hour and it's good. even when I'm in the basement and have 1 bar I still receive all my calls and I can make calls. though on this 1 bar I sometimes have to repeat myself every 1.5 minute, but I don't complain about that because it's 1 bar and I'm in the basement. at my friend's apartment I'm the only one that get signal, nothing else work there, not T-Mobile, not sprint, not verizon, not alltel, not vergin nothing else only AT&T works and I get 3 bars of 3G there. I always laugh because he has to leave his phone by the window and use his blue tooth.
I honestly don't think you're by a 3G tower because you should be getting way more than 3 bars. also ask them about the issue you're having AT&T is a good company they will listen to you. call them and open a ticket (before this they will have you go through the basic steps, restarting by removing the battery, etc) tell them you've done that multiple times and yet you have the same issue so it must be a network issue. have them escalate the ticket (they will send an engineer out and he/she will call you, they will work on the towers around your area). don't forget to be polite, no one likes a hot head.
in roughly mid year last year I was only getting edge at my job even though it is a 3G area. at home inside my house had full bars, so I called them up and they worked with me. the engineer stayed in my area roughly 2 weeks to deal with the issue. after that I've had 2 bars of 3G in doors at my job.