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Which Rom You Recomend?

Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!

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Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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I have found I want to experiment lots.
I have experimented with Onkolog, LIA which I had issues with, particularly around customising the phone with themes etc.
Between the big 3, Davideuck, Dutty and Miri, my choice is Miri 6.5 V16.
You may find you want to experiment too.
I personally prefer Manila TF3D over 6.5 Titanium and I don't care at all for SPB Mb Shell 3. I haven't tried PointUI but I am pretty sure I would still prefer Manila.
I suggest you go for it and experiment lots.
You can't go wrong with the big 3.

try ones 6.5 but prefered 6.1
6.5 more stable what they claim
try every ROM the best answer
good luck...

I personally prefer miri's wm6.5 v16 for now.because it's beautiful and stable.

Miri's WM6.5 series ROMs are the best!
I have tried out Dutty, MaryOne, taisee and Miri, and finally stayed on miri's ROMs, among which I have flasehd v9.1, 10, 11,12,13,15,16,16.1.
I have several thousand contacts and Calendar data since 2002 on my phone. Only Miris' ROM works with my data so smoothly and fast.

just a question..
Regardless of which ROM you flash, the flashing method is the same right? I've once flashed using USPL for Dutty ROM. If I were to flash now from Dutty ROM to let's say Miri v6.5 ROM, can I use USPL method again directly?
Thanks.

i feel your thread will be banned...
anyways i am happy to recommend you the Topix 2.1, i used many version of dutty but eventually topix is much more fast and stable. i am still expecting dutty's better wm6.5, i still believe in dutty

test and choose
it depends a lot your usage and your priorities.
for me, the are a lot of great cooker doing stablerom: miri, kwbr, duttythroy, pdaviet,laurentius,...
I've not tested all so I'm not saying that these are the only ones.
As my priority is the speed an fluidity of the phone i help on bench marking rom:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190
and based on these results damn small topix is the fastest one.
it's also very stable.
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower but usually they use less ram.
again, all this is my priority.
the best is try some then decide.

houms said:
As you can see in the bench result, 6.5 roms are slower
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Where do you see that? I don't think that the newer versions of 6.5 "slower" than 6.1.

Sw1pe said:
Hello. I want to upgrade my phones ROM because I have and old one from the beginning. My ROM version is 1.19.61.1
So I want to upgrade to new one but I'm confused because there is a very big choice of ROM's here and I do not want to choose poorly
To which ROM you recommend me to update?
Which ROMs are with best performance, least bugs and best features?
First I was very interested in Dutty's V3.7 XT Final but then I also saw that there is lot of wm 6.5 ROMs. Does my phone will have same performance with 6.5 wm version or slower?
Thank You!
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If you use often Internet on your phone, i recomend you Laurentius L26 2.3 (WIndows Mobile 6.1): this rom provide the best mobile navigation experience with awesome version of Opera tweaked by Laurentius and with a usefull zoomslider.
Also L26 is stable, clomplete of most rilevant applications, strongly optimized and with a confortable and pretty upper menu with battery icon that show exact state of the battery...this is very useful for me.

i liked onkolog's rom if youre looking for speed + lots of free memory and battery life

If you use outlook and associated programs a lot, WM 6.5 is a lot better.
On WM 6.5 Apps can use close to 64M if your drivers and related DLLs are all in the 61 and 60 slots.
Regarding the benchmarks - I would say that a lot of what is importan about performance w.r.t. the end user experience is difficult to measure
: i.e. random stalls and a lack of responsivenes, larency when switching between aps or when touching the screen, and general smoothness of presentation.

These types of threads never get anywhere. Try some ROM's yourself and choose. Everyone taste are different.

I've used a couple recent Dutty roms and they were great, but now I'm using the fantastic Topix 2.1 rom and I love it. Bug free, stable, fast, and no annoying sms problems.
I've tried a couple different Winmo 6.5 roms and I'm not a big fan of it as it is right now. Winmo 6.5 titanium interface doesn't provide me with ease of use as TF3D does. There is no awesome music player or anything of the sort on titanium, just the same ol crappy Windows Media Player.
I find myself using TF3D even when I have a Winmo6.5 rom so I fail to see the point. The 6.5 notifications overwriting the TF3D ones, app incompatibility, etc, just makes it more annoying for me to use.
I'm gonna wait until 6.5 is more well established...or just wait for 7 =D

If you like TF3D i recommend you keep using WM6.1 ROM's... It just doesn't integrate very well with the new WM6.5 style menu's. It is possible though, but since TF3D replaces a lot of WM6.5's functions the advantage isn't that great. It is however the safest choice if you would like to try out WM6.5, but don't know yet if you want to abandon TF3D.
Personally I'm a big fan of WM6.5, and I don´t use TF3D at all anymore. The new titanium interface is sleek and stylish, and with some plugins from the XDA forums (search for 'CHome' + wat you need) I have all the functionality I need (without out the hassle and memory consumption of TF3D).
As said before by other people, you have to chose yourself. Read allot on the different ROM's, about there features, memory, WM6.1 / WM 6.5, addons / customizations, etc.
After this you'll probably have 2 or 3 ROM's you'll want to try: Do so. Flash these ROM's and you'll know exactly what you like and don't like. This is the only way of finding out if the ROM has and does what you want it to.
So stop reading this thread and do some research Good luck!

For me?? MIRI THE BEST!
Its up to individual.. Try playing with the few roms and u roughly know which you like.

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wm6.1 and manila 2.5

hello
as i surfing other phone threads i saw many WM 6.1- MANILA 2.5 cooked rom for X1 TP2 and diamond2 and... is there any thing for Blackstone ? as in my opinion WM6.1 is much much faster than WM6.5. I almost tried all wm6.5 roms but they are buggy and slower than WM6.1.
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!

The problem with the buggyness is not due to win 6.5 but Manila 2.5, the problems would be at least the same with 6.1.
I suggest u try some of the win 6.5 + manila 2.1 that there are around such as miri v30, they're very fast and very stable.

xborfi said:
the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Guess why? Because in contradiction to your opinion, almost everybody here regards WM 6.5 as fast, more user friendly, better looking, and bugfree.
As he said: Try 6.5 with Manila 2.1, because it is 2.5 that is slowing down things with the slow Touch HD processor, not 6.5.

yes . tried those V30 and V12 also. they are acceptable but not running smooth. I think Blackstone lack of drivers for WM6.5 causes that. they freezes randomly so not good for daily uses. I almost lost some of my important information using those roms but they are good things to experience things coming future! how ever I think manila 2.5 will run better on Blackstone. now I am switched to miri WM6.1 with manila 2.5 but the version of manila used there is older manila 2.5 one which is buggy and the rom is also discontinued.
-I am also thinking of overclocking the blackstone processor as the last solution since I damaged my htc prophet one because of overclocking

xborfi said:
...the only one for blackstone found is Miri Wm6.1 with manila 2.5 which is fast but rather old and it is DISCONTINUED!
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Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao

keopsjo said:
Why don't you try it. I'm using her for more than a month and I'm really quite happy. And, since I don't use Facebook nor Twitter, everything is working well. I can even send a 160 crt SMS that with all the others 6.5 Rom's wasn't possible.
At least for now, this is my Rom, and will be the backup Rom if I decide to restart flashing new ones.
Ciao
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for sure! I am now playing with this rom. its fast and smooth. manila is working as what it should be and smooth as i saw in the demo of HD2. however since this rom is discontinued the manila is rather old 2.5 one which having some problems. how ever i am now forget about some broken things and I am happy with this rom.

is miri V3.0 the only WM6.1 and Manila 2.5 available? is there is any other please provide me with the link. thanks

i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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I agree with you. All WM6.5 ROM I tried are slower then WM6.1 ones.
Now I'm using Miri's WM6.1 Manila2.5 and it's fast, very fast.
I have also update some packages. The only bugs I've are: Facebook and Footprints. Also the default WM6.1 is very bad... but I'm working on it to replace with a third part action screen.
ReX

i agree, it is fast but it is rather old and have some bugs

can some one upload the ROM file and post the link here? the one on the official thread doen not have any free user download slots left.
please

khanem said:
i am using toopix and it's the best. i tried all 6.5 with manilla 2.1 and 2.5 and always had to come back to toopix. i just need an application that does the work of footprint and it will be perfect.
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Hey, do you mind tell me which version you are using?
I'm using miri wm6.1 + Sense 2.5. I gotta say, I love WM6.1 better than 6.5. I find the battery life is better. Also, the speed is better than 6.5. I'm not saying 6.5 is slow, just 6.1 is faster than 6.5.

hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well

People still use 6.1? There is a reason noone puts 2.5 on 6.1
Its so OOOOLLLLDDD. Live in the NOW! once you go kinetic you can't go back! Once you made that move the next one is clear, once you go 6.5.1 + 2.5 there is definitely no going back! Unless you don't commend appearance or usability high on your list.....then you can stick with 6.1
MAN UP, PUT UP WITH THE EXTRA FEW MILISECOND LAG WITH 6.5x ROMS AND ENJOY THE AWESOMENESS!
I am a fellow topix follower, but I love the new 6.5.1 far too much to worry that it takes a few more miliseconds to do things. BOOHOO
P.S, do you still use windows 95? Cos its ALOT faster than xp, vista, and windows 7. I use windows 7 cos it looks god damn gorgeous (and way more features lol) - catch my drift?

I get ur point.. but i still wonder why u r still on HD, i am sure there alot of newer phones out alreday. HD is so OOOOLLLLDDD!!!
anyways, everybody choose whatever they are comfortable with. I'll request you to refrain yourself from passing such remarks(n making such posts) on what others choose. Let them live in the primitive era if they wish to.. Rest its up to u.

varunverma said:
hey Jakkkk, Do u have the zip/rar file of the miri's ROM with you?
i can't find any working download link for the same..
the dedicated thread is closed as well
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Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you

jackkkkk said:
Please let me know if you still having trouble... I will upload to Megauploads for you
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the twitter tab is not working on this ROM, i want manila 2.5 for that only.
else i m very happy with my current ROM

Which of the ROMs is the fastest (maybe old good WM6.1)?

I think I'm a bit tired of flashing and want a stable environment to browse, read emails, chat etc.
What is the best choice? Stock ROM or... Dutty's v4.3 WM6.1 Manilla 2.1 ???
I think that cooked ROMs are a bit bettter than stock. So what should I use instead of the stock but not WM6.5 (coz I think that WM6.5 is really slower and less stable than 6.1).

bullka said:
I think I'm a bit tired of flashing and want a stable environment to browse, read emails, chat etc.
What is the best choice? Stock ROM or... Dutty's v4.3 WM6.1 Manilla 2.1 ???
I think that cooked ROMs are a bit bettter than stock. So what should I use instead of the stock but not WM6.5 (coz I think that WM6.5 is really slower and less stable than 6.1).
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try topix and you are happy. even there is a benchmark thread here in this board..

see this bench
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=516190&page=69

bullka said:
I think I'm a bit tired of flashing and want a stable environment to browse, read emails, chat etc.
What is the best choice? Stock ROM or... Dutty's v4.3 WM6.1 Manilla 2.1 ???
I think that cooked ROMs are a bit bettter than stock. So what should I use instead of the stock but not WM6.5 (coz I think that WM6.5 is really slower and less stable than 6.1).
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definitely Kwbr 15Nov Vanilla series Rhodium port. fastest, most stable, closest to stock, with Htc Sense.

So.. I have two recommendations:
Topix: which is fully tweaked and with lots of applications.
Vanilla: not tweaked at all with no additional applications.
Topix claims to be very fast. But in my understanding - Vanilla should be faster as it's not loaded with 3rd party applications.
Anyway.. seems that I need to try both. And I don't know from which to start
I like more the Vanilla version if it's really faster.

out of the 2, topix 3.1.2 is wm6.1 so is faster than vanilla which is 6.5. this is also evident if u look at the bench scores
there's also a beta topix based on wm6.5.however I haven't tried it so can't comment

yung_vu said:
out of the 2, topix 3.1.2 is wm6.1 so is faster than vanilla which is 6.5. this is also evident if u look at the bench scores
there's also a beta topix based on wm6.5.however I haven't tried it so can't comment
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OK.. So I will start with Topix.
Could anybody post a link to benchmark results? I can find a thread (link was posted above) but no chart with all the results.
Does anybody have a clue which is more responsive: Duttys v4.3, o Topix 3.1.2?

bullka said:
I think I'm a bit tired of flashing and want a stable environment to browse, read emails, chat etc.
What is the best choice? Stock ROM or... Dutty's v4.3 WM6.1 Manilla 2.1 ???
I think that cooked ROMs are a bit bettter than stock. So what should I use instead of the stock but not WM6.5 (coz I think that WM6.5 is really slower and less stable than 6.1).
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Don't forget Laurentius26 and PhamQuang ROMS... If u wanna use 6.1 then L26 v3.5 is the best as u can see in the benchmarking list and my opinion as a user. But if u wanna use 6.5 then I can say PhamQuang's v74 is not the fastest but the best since performance is a combination of stability, speed and compatibility... That's my own opinion after flashing dozens of ROMs to my Blackstone (xannytech,topix,energy,etc etc...) But in general Dutty's, Miri's, Phamquang's and Laurentius' roms are clean,stable and fast.Onkolog's Roms are extremeley clean and problem-free but slow.

I have to suggest Dutty's Holy Grail's, they are amazing! The one with Manila 2.5 is really fast, responsive and stable so imagine the one with 2.1! I always end up going back to Dutty, his roms are so solid! They're the only roms i'm able to stay with!

I think Dutty's Holy Grail R0 is the best balance between speed and stability. I have used PhamQuang, LIA, EnergyROM, and loads of others, but I keep coming back to Dutty. WM6.5 and M2.5 ftw!!
Now if only HTC could make their messaging app cope with large volumes of texts....

krs360 said:
I think Dutty's Holy Grail R0 is the best balance between speed and stability. I have used PhamQuang, LIA, EnergyROM, and loads of others, but I keep coming back to Dutty. WM6.5 and M2.5 ftw!!
Now if only HTC could make their messaging app cope with large volumes of texts....
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I am not certain about that one. I used Holly Grail for a couple of weeks, mostly because I was tired of flashing (I cannot believe I just said that being a flashing junkie) but I was not all that happy with it becasue it was slow and the touch response was not good.
Flash a stock rom and swipe your fingers across your screen, you'll know what I mean.
I am also looking for a rom which is quick, responsive and bug free, and believe only stock ones can truly deliver; they had ample time to iron our the bugs.
The cooks should concentrate on making a good working roms instead of spewing out new cores, builts, etc., every other day.
Stick to one core for a while and take time to iron out mistakes, develop useful cabs for that particular version, etc....
Cheers
P.S. I forgot to mention ONE BIG problem with the Holly Grail: it would hang on a gray screen, sort of not turned on nor turned off. I'd be sitting in my office for example with the phone close by, an hour later I'd get a call from my friends on a land line asking me why I turned my phone off. I'd look over and lo and behold, a gray screen. Tried to reanimate it with a power button but nothing would happen. Had to take out the battery in order to start it up again. This became especially irritating if I'd leave my phone on over night because of the alarm, it would hang on the gray screen again and I'd miss waking up on time.
This is a big, huge, problem for me, so I was really glad to abandon the so called Holly Grail....

Hi,
Thanks for answers. But I don't want WM6.5. I'm currently using Holy Grail R0 and I'm missing the responsivness of WM6.1.
I've tried only Dutty's WM6.1 ROMs (latest v4.3 with Manila 6.1 (not sense)). In this i trust. But wanted to try other WM6.1 alternatives.

i personally use topix. its faster than its competitors and has the best 6.1 web browsing i have ever seen (no idea how kwbr makes opera as smooth as it is). Older versions of topix (between v2.8 and 3) were the best imo. i found a version of 2.8.6 after a long google search and dont expect to be changing any time soon (although the shelby line of ROMs is beginning to attract my attention, but i digress).

Dutty 4.3 for SURE!!!!
The best 6.1 rom for me was the 4.3 and I'm using now the new leostone rom which gave me the same impression...(its even faster and better than the holy grail)

I was trying to find the best ROM as well. I went back to Laurentius 3.55 and I found out again how fast that ROM is. But the problem was the boring Manila. I like the colored Tab-icons and the weather on the homescreen.
So I took a look in the benchmarks and I saw that Topix 3.0.2 was the fastest, with HTC Sense 2.1. I'm using it again for 2 months now and I really love the ROM.
So if you want a fast WM6.1 ROM, with Leo style (HTC Sense 2.1), download Topix 3.0.2. And don't forget to change the wallpaper, because the weather animations slows down your device!

I tryed Dutty 4.3 but the call history bug never got fixed. Had sms problems too. Went back to Dutty 3.9 Turbo again, the best that has worked for me always.

Kwbr Vanilla Series Rhodium Port 15Nov release
bullka said:
OK.. So I will start with Topix.
Could anybody post a link to benchmark results? I can find a thread (link was posted above) but no chart with all the results.
Does anybody have a clue which is more responsive: Duttys v4.3, o Topix 3.1.2?
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if you want to old Man 2.1 with Win 6.1 use Topix 3.1.2 (very stable and fast but "old")
if you want Man 2.1 Sense (latest Win 6.5 update for the Rhodium) with Windows 6.5 use Vanilla Series Rhodium Port 15Nov release. (very stable and fast, and "NEW" ) see what I mean?
better get flashing then, before Fallen Spartan closes this thread.

Nothing can beat ongkolog 6.1 lite version 3 Jun, I installed with 43 applications without feeling slow. I switched off manila and use spb pocket plus as my main application. I keep going back to this ROM after using and flashing many other ROM 6.5 and 6.1 before.

jigners said:
if you want to old Man 2.1 with Win 6.1 use Topix 3.1.2 (very stable and fast but "old")
if you want Man 2.1 Sense (latest Win 6.5 update for the Rhodium) with Windows 6.5 use Vanilla Series Rhodium Port 15Nov release. (very stable and fast, and "NEW" ) see what I mean?
better get flashing then, before Fallen Spartan closes this thread.
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All right is the fastest and most smooth ROM

Where I can find the kwbr vanilla from 15.11. to download?
I can only find the vanilla from 24.11. but not the older version - also not on kwbr mirror...
this is wm6.5 with leo-manila?
thank you!

which ROM is the fastest?

I just romed Energy but seems slow then my before ROM. Could you advise me the fastest ROM with manila 2.5 ? thanks in advance.

i need it too

energy rom update every week, it leaves this rom less time for further optimizing and testing.
try xannytech, but it did not update for a looooooong time, stoped at 21908.

i think the fast is win cloudy 0.3-0.5
win 6.5 + sense 2.5 is for HD2 with snap dragon procesor so when you flash into HD
you get slow performance
but with win 6.1 + sense 2.5 you can get sense with speed as HD2
try on

I tried and I tried
Don't expect miracle :
- Winmo 6.5 + Sense 2.5 : SLOW (ALL roms)
- Winmo 6.5 + Manila 2.1 : CORRECT (exemple kwbr)
- Winmo 6.1 + Manila 2.1 : FAST

Kholargol said:
Don't expect miracle :
- Winmo 6.5 + Sense 2.5 : SLOW (ALL roms)
- Winmo 6.5 + Manila 2.1 : CORRECT (exemple kwbr)
- Winmo 6.1 + Manila 2.1 : FAST
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I hade already manila 2.1 and it was fast enough. I understand that manila 2.5 causes working slow.

Kholargol said:
Don't expect miracle :
- Winmo 6.5 + Sense 2.5 : SLOW (ALL roms)
- Winmo 6.5 + Manila 2.1 : CORRECT (exemple kwbr)
- Winmo 6.1 + Manila 2.1 : FAST
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try to flash some rom's and decide what you like more...
"- Winmo 6.5 + Sense 2.5 : SLOW (ALL roms)" ---> really??? for this build's in my opinion you can try Energy, Cloudy, IoDa's and blackSTONEhenge...and after, i think that you'll change your opinion.
And again...please!!! don't open a thread with this questions!!read the others threads and flash to test!
Cheers.

i think its ok to ask about what's the fastest rom or combination of OS + Sense so that people will be aware what to look for. Same time with people who cook ROMs to that they're not into eye candies but more on balance with graphics and speed.
Please dont scare people like test this and test that.

do some benchmark for all rom here and show it

i agree to that..

randolph2000 said:
i think its ok to ask about what's the fastest rom or combination of OS + Sense so that people will be aware what to look for. Same time with people who cook ROMs to that they're not into eye candies but more on balance with graphics and speed.
Please dont scare people like test this and test that.
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Very well said,
Energy roms are fast enough for everyday use but takes little longer to bootup and get ready to use unless you leave in sleep mode.
My clean 6.5 Blueangel boots up faster than any rom with manila, I tried many roms and found Cloudy rom with few little tweaks run very very stable and fast. KWBR roms are pretty fast too

thank you for your help.
I will keep the Energy for a while, may be I get used of speed
may be I need a machine which has more powerfull processor, may be the best to wait for a machine with windows mobile 7.
thank you..

x8rui said:
try to flash some rom's and decide what you like more...
"- Winmo 6.5 + Sense 2.5 : SLOW (ALL roms)" ---> really??? for this build's in my opinion you can try Energy, Cloudy, IoDa's and blackSTONEhenge...and after, i think that you'll change your opinion.
And again...please!!! don't open a thread with this questions!!read the others threads and flash to test!
Cheers.
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I tried latest versions of Energy, Cloudy, Blackstonehenge (not IoDa's one) and yes they are slow.
Precisely, they are SLOWER than a good old optimised ROM WinMo 6.1 + Manila 2.1 from 2009. In fact, think that people here forget the original speed of the Blackstone.
I use my Blackstone for Work so I don't care about eye candies, overloaded ROMs with useless apps and tabs. I just want a stable ROM with instantaneous response time (like an iphone does)

Kholargol said:
I tried latest versions of Energy, Cloudy, Blackstonehenge (not IoDa's one) and yes they are slow.
Precisely, they are SLOWER than a good old optimised ROM WinMo 6.1 + Manila 2.1 from 2009. In fact, think that people here forget the original speed of the Blackstone.
I use my Blackstone for Work so I don't care about eye candies, overloaded ROMs with useless apps and tabs. I just want a stable ROM with instantaneous response time (like an iphone does)
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count +1 for me

Kholargol said:
I use my Blackstone for Work so I don't care about eye candies, overloaded ROMs with useless apps and tabs. I just want a stable ROM with instantaneous response time (like an iphone does)
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sorry to react like this but go buy a iphone
i and im sure every other chef here puts alot of work and time in rom making
we try to do oure best
dont forget the 6.5+sense 2.5 is originally designed for a device wich has twice the specs the blackstone has
i have read it many times many people want the reaction speed of a iphone well go buy a f*c*i*g iphone and leave it
these kind of messages can discourage chefs as the roms arent fast enough
i think myself and every other chef does a good job and we get the most out of houre device we can

miniterror said:
sorry to react like this but go buy a iphone
i and im sure every other chef here puts alot of work and time in rom making
we try to do oure best
dont forget the 6.5+sense 2.5 is originally designed for a device wich has twice the specs the blackstone has
i have read it many times many people want the reaction speed of a iphone well go buy a f*c*i*g iphone and leave it
these kind of messages can discourage chefs as the roms arent fast enough
i think myself and every other chef does a good job and we get the most out of houre device we can
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1) I don't want/need to buy an Iphone ! I'm happy with my blackstone as it is (Mania26 FR Rom from Sept 2009 :Winmo 6.1 + Manila 2.1). Fast, stable and excellent battery consumption.
I tried a lot of new sense 2.5 roms because I wanted a new one (I'm sure a geek!) but finally I can't have a daily and professional use with any of them, sorry.
2) I agree with you : 6.5+sense 2.5 is originally designed for a device wich has twice the specs the blackstone has ! So ? So,if the device is not made for that, why make it go through that?
With an old PC, my choice is to set graphical options to low or med in order to have a smooth and playable game instead of setting it to the max and having beautiful graphics.. at 2 fps !
Same thing with my Blackstone !

miniterror said:
sorry to react like this but go buy a iphone
i and im sure every other chef here puts alot of work and time in rom making
we try to do oure best
dont forget the 6.5+sense 2.5 is originally designed for a device wich has twice the specs the blackstone has
i have read it many times many people want the reaction speed of a iphone well go buy a f*c*i*g iphone and leave it
these kind of messages can discourage chefs as the roms arent fast enough
i think myself and every other chef does a good job and we get the most out of houre device we can
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Agree!!!
I don't understand why a lot of threads are open with the question of this thread!!!please guy's, go search on roms threads and read the posts!try to flash some roms and chose what kind of rom u need for u'r type of use!
Don't discourage the chefs!They do a GREAT WORK!!!

Kholargol said:
2) I agree with you : 6.5+sense 2.5 is originally designed for a device wich has twice the specs the blackstone has ! So ? So,if the device is not made for that, why make it go through that?
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we do that as 9 out of 10 users want the latest of the latest features and the newest from the newest packages in the rom and they dont really care about the speed
to be honest i dont do much heavy things on a daily base but the days i do heavy things and multitaks all the way my phone can handle it and the speed is ok for me
maybe cause i am used to the speed of 6.5 and sense 2.5 maybe i dont have the same high standards as you

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we do that as 9 out of 10 users want the latest of the latest features and the newest from the newest packages in the rom and they dont really care about the speed..
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Yes, I agree with this stats and your point of view. I also realize that I am in the others 1 of 10 ! Probably because of my professional use of the phone !
Even more, Manila standard HTC builds are oriented for a public who claim for animated weathers tab, double clock display (digital + analog) twiter and facebook stuffs.
but what about a good calendar , multiple appointments on home, etc ?
And I don't criticize the work of cookers here. I can't do it because I don't cook myself ! I only give my opinion !

I think best is win6.1 and sense 2.5 for HD.
For me at the moment BlackNew V by Kenia is the best: stable and fast.
I would like test a rom with win 6.1 and maxsense...
Bye

[Q] Can someone please help recomend a rom - Xperileo Freezing

Hi,
I recently downloaded the Xperileo rom off the xperia-unoff site.
I love the rom, its got a great interface and features. I really like the graphics of this rom and Id like to keep something like this, I think its called sense or manilla. I really dont know though its confusing.
There is one or twos problem however.
1. The phone keeps freezing, requiring me to open the back of it and use the reset button. This is dangerous as if my family calls, I may not receive the call. This absolutely needs fixing. Is there a stable rom that will not freeze or have these problems that has the same type of scrolling or a really nice GUI like this one I am using ?
2. The other problem is that the interface is pretty slow, with text messaging being really slow to respond, and menus freezing for a few seconds.
If someone could recommend a stable but attractive rom I would be very appreciative. Stability and usability are top.
Thanks
Christof

You gotta test yourself a couple of ROMs. That's the best answer.

I've tried almost every rom here.
Energy and Valkyrie are both overbloated and unstable. Xperileo is unstable as well. Almost every rom with manila sense is unstable slow and rendering it almost unusable.
Try the 826x rom, it's the best one and has most stability i've seen in a rom. ♥
Also touch x is pretty good if your looking for absolute speed on manila.

Christopher888 said:
Hi,
I recently downloaded the Xperileo rom off the xperia-unoff site.
I love the rom, its got a great interface and features. I really like the graphics of this rom and Id like to keep something like this, I think its called sense or manilla. I really dont know though its confusing.
There is one or twos problem however.
1. The phone keeps freezing, requiring me to open the back of it and use the reset button. This is dangerous as if my family calls, I may not receive the call. This absolutely needs fixing. Is there a stable rom that will not freeze or have these problems that has the same type of scrolling or a really nice GUI like this one I am using ?
2. The other problem is that the interface is pretty slow, with text messaging being really slow to respond, and menus freezing for a few seconds.
If someone could recommend a stable but attractive rom I would be very appreciative. Stability and usability are top.
Thanks
Christof
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u sound like me a couple of years back..anyways..Wildchild's ROM (Unavailable here on XDA) is by far the most stable Manila (now called Sense UI) ROM.
However if u dont want a Sense UI (HTC phone interface), i would suggest XPURE III OR II.
PM me if u still have problems.
All the best.

the best solution for your problem is use the original r3a rom.fastest rom whithout any bug .stable .I've tried all xda roms,after that I back to r3a rom.

Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the replies I do appreciate it.
It sounds like Manilla is a bit unstable, which is not safe for me.
What about windows 6.5. Whats the most stable or a very stable rom with nice icons? Dont care about the manilla stuff compared to stability. Just need something that never freezes.
Thanks again
Cheers
Christof

You CAN have pretty stable Sense/Manilla interface ROMs.
It's just that they are pretty much hit or miss. One version can be stable and reliable and another, issued 3 days later (and having replaced the earlier version) can be a mess.
I just recently started flashing ROMs and my experiences have been good so far. I have mostly played with the beautiful ENERGY ROMs and some have been good, some bad.
The Sense UI may not be a speed demon, but is gorgeous and works (although something like SPB Mobile Shell might be faster - not as good looking though). But the true differnce for me is in the speed of programs running. For me they work MUCH faster under ENERGY ROMs then on the stock ROM. This is most noticable with my GPS software which was slow, laggy and unstable under stock ROM, while is very reliable and works great under ENERGY ROMs.
My advice is to just find a good ROM that suits you and keep it, rather then enter the constant reflashing cycle. Some Sense ROMs are very stable.

Christopher888 said:
Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the replies I do appreciate it.
It sounds like Manilla is a bit unstable, which is not safe for me.
What about windows 6.5. Whats the most stable or a very stable rom with nice icons? Dont care about the manilla stuff compared to stability. Just need something that never freezes.
Thanks again
Cheers
Christof
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With Sense UI: WildChild's ROM.
Without SEnse UI (Windows 6.5.x) : Russell Eclair XPure II or even III (im using this right now, its pretty good)

circleofomega said:
With Sense UI: WildChild's ROM.
Without SEnse UI (Windows 6.5.x) : Russell Eclair XPure II or even III (im using this right now, its pretty good)
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I find Russell Eclair XPure II to be a little slow compared with jerpelea's X2 port.
The only issue I have with jerpelea's ROM is the first times someone is calling me. I can' answer the phone and I have to pull out the battery. But after 1-2 days it works like a champ (without using Slideview, the X2 addition to panels).
If you want something fast and stable look for a clean ROM (like Laurenti's ROM, 23.08.2010 version used for 2 weeks with no problem, and really fast) or R3A ROM.
Cheers!

cristidotro said:
I find Russell Eclair XPure II to be a little slow compared with jerpelea's X2 port.
The only issue I have with jerpelea's ROM is the first times someone is calling me. I can' answer the phone and I have to pull out the battery. But after 1-2 days it works like a champ (without using Slideview, the X2 addition to panels).
If you want something fast and stable look for a clean ROM (like Laurenti's ROM, 23.08.2010 version used for 2 weeks with no problem, and really fast) or R3A ROM.
Cheers!
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Try the Xpure III with the freeze fix given..It wil solve all your problems...I am using it myself...had the same problem as u..used the freeze fix and flashed XPure III NOT II...

I still maintain that Touch X 10.1 is the best rom out there.
It does exactly what I need. Great battery life, great speed and never had a freeze or SOD with it (EVER!).
Yes the graphics are a little outdated but I am willing to put up with that in exchange for the 3 above.

Lunie said:
I've tried almost every rom here.
Energy and Valkyrie are both overbloated and unstable. Xperileo is unstable as well. Almost every rom with manila sense is unstable slow and rendering it almost unusable.
Try the 826x rom, it's the best one and has most stability i've seen in a rom. ♥
Also touch x is pretty good if your looking for absolute speed on manila.
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It's also freezing every couple of hours ....

Just a Question: Do you hard reset after flashing the phone?

Yes, I always hard reset my phone after flashing.

for me dis ROM 826x WM 6.5.3 build 23680 - Sense 2018 is d fastest & quite stable..u still will exp wit sod once in a while but for me dis rom really worth trying..

xpemedo said:
for me dis ROM 826x WM 6.5.3 build 23680 - Sense 2018 is d fastest
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Thread removed to Q&A as not Rom Dev, please post in the correct section, one other thing, asking "which rom is best?" is like asking a load of guys what is the best beer in the world
Thanks
Badwolve1