So just wondering.
Seeing as the MDACompact 3 had Wifi disabled with Tmobile in the UK.
Does anyone know what changes there where to the MDA4 other than the rear of the case?
(and why they do this anyway?)
I have a MDA Compact IV from T-Mobile Germany. Its exactly the same as a HTC, beside of changes in back and front cover and branding of cause.
But there are no ther nerfs.
Aye but with the UK MDAiii they removed the Wifi, so its really the UK version I was wondering about.
They haven't removed Wifi. The rom has Youtube and Messenger removed but I flashed it straight away. The device is lighter than the diamond and it sits flat on a table.
it has no sd card slot like the other touch diamonds out there, and it indeed has the fugly grey back.
I still love mine tho
suicidal.banana said:
it has no sd card slot like the other touch diamonds out there, and it indeed has the fugly grey back.
I still love mine tho
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Touch Diamonds dont have a memory card slot either. And i personally quite like the back, it isnt a fingerprint magnet and its slightly rubberised for better grip and it sits flat on a desk.
Definitely not does not have a rubberised back, it’s more of a matt finish then a shiny gloss hence the back is fingerprint resistant.
I was shocked at how much pressure needs to be applied to get the gestures to work. I tend to use the nail as it’s more effective.
Also similar problem to my orbit is that the edge of the screen to the edge of the casing has the tiniest of gaps, but if you get a bit of grit in there, it’s never coming back out!
All in all a great upgrade, I just wished they (HTC) didn’t make so many sacrifices. Think about it, if we had a slightly bigger battery, they could have probably fitted in a micro sd card reader as well. HTC have gone on record saying that adding a micro sd card reader would have added 2 mm to the thickness. Well that 2 mm might have also ment a larger capacity battery!
If you scratch the back with your nail you can feel its rubberised in some way, not like a car tyre rubber, but ever so slightly. Also if you title it to the side and drag it on the desk you can feel it sticks.
Compromises always have to be made, some people prefer a thiner phone, some people prefer a thicker phone with more features.
I thought it was 4mm?
So in Conclusion:
Positives are the back gets no fingerprint marks.
Negatives
No SD card slot
Easy ingress of Dirt around screen
No Youtube
No Messenger
doesnt look great for T-mobile customers then really.
..or am i missing something?
I think you are missing something.
The SD card slot issue is with all Diamonds (and variants) not just the T-Mobile version
The grit around the edge of the screen is again with all Diamonds (and variants) not just the T-Mobile version
The You Tube and Messenger apps are available through custom ROMs or standalone CAB files so can be effectively ignored.
Personally I prefer the look of the T-Mobile version to the HTC version, and as got got it for pocket change, I like it even more!
The Compact IV is also something like 10-15g lighter.
So
Positives:
- Sits flat on a desk
- Has a rubberised back that gets no fingerprints
- Is 10-15g lighter than the diamond
- Camera cover doesnt get all cloudy and blurry
Negatives:
- Requires some work to get youtube/messenger and remove pink branding like installing cabs or flashing the rom
The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV is in fact the HTC TOUCH VICTOR!!!!
Not the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND!!!
(MDA COMPACT IV AND HTC TOUCH VICTOR both have 192mb ram, Diamond had 256mb ram)
Rest of specs is the same!
See: http://www.slashphone.com/htc-p3702-victor-unboxing-photo-gallery-13880
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The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV is in fact the HTC TOUCH VICTOR!!!!
Not the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND!!!
(MDA COMPACT IV AND HTC TOUCH VICTOR both have 192mb ram, Diamond had 256mb ram)
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Yes it is also known as the Victor, but to be honest there is no difference.
FYI both the Diamond and Victor have 192MB ram, the touch pro has 256MB ram.
K so after a quick search on the victor got this
http://www.slashphone.com/tags/htc-victor
something about no A-GPS (what is that?) on certain phones in Taiwan.
Does this mean Victor has a lower level of GPS than the Diamond?
I got the TMUK MDA Compact IV which comes with a crappy grey pouch for the phone. HTC gives a leather pouch...personally I prfer the lether pouch, but Im sure I can buy it somewhere??
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Is it just me not being careful enough with my diamond?
Because it does not take much for my screen to get scratched.
Compared to my htc touch, there is a big difference.
I already needed to buy a tube to try and polish the scratches out.
Waiting for my screen protector to arrive and hope its better then the one from brando because i had to wash it and then i just never got it clean again.
could not get the fingerprints of it and always left some water stains (even when i use a blow dryer)
This is the only thing which disappoints me and also surprises me!
Anyone els noticed this?
didnt u get a oem screen protector in the box?
as posted just now: haven't you applied the screen protector, since this is a different type of screen then your previous phone there is a reason it is being shipped with a screen protector!
I ordered a thicker screen protector when I placed my order. No scratch what so ever and the phone is almost all the time accompanied with my keys or lighter ...
I did get it but i messed it up by accident...
and i also received one with my htc touch but i did not need one for that phone.
it did not scratch that easily.
So because of this i thought i would not need to order a new one, now i see i was wrong.
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I ordered a thicker screen protector when I placed my order. No scratch what so ever and the phone is almost all the time accompanied with my keys or lighter ...
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Where did you get a thicker one? I have the one that came in the box on my Diamond just now which seems fine - but I also messed up when putting it on and its slightly squint. I would like to get a replacement - but the HTC store are only currently selling them in packs of 6!
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I did get it but i messed it up by accident...
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I know what you mean /sigh
HI,
I've managed to get a few small scratches on mine.
Can't think how. I always carry it on it's own in a soft pocket - the same pocket I used for my old Orbit 2 and Orbit & Jamin before it etc... none of which ever scratched.
Was even being careful while I waited for a better screen protector...
Seems to scrtach quite easily...
So, does anyone have any ideas on how to minimise effect of/repair small scratches? There are plenty of solutions for plastic screens but I can't find any reliable advice for the Diamond (or the iPhone for that matter - I searched for iPhone as it has a similar hard glass screen and has been around longer)...
All ideas welcome!
Thanks.
The screen protector looks exactly the same as those bundled with Vario II and III and I must say it's rubbish. I bought 2 from Taiwan or China on ebay for a quid inc. shipping and they are a bit thicker and they don't descrease the quality of colours as the standard ones.
Hey! Does the rear cover from XDA Diamond (from O2) fit on a normal touch diamond? If so, where can I get it? Searched for it but no ressult! Because I aint to happy with a shiney rear cover!
No it doesnt. Different plastic connectors.
What? So you're saying HTC makes a different phone frame just for O2?!?
The O2 XDA is just a standard Touch Diamond with O2 written on the front, thats it.
Maybe you're confused with the HTC Victor, the version Tmobile sells with a flat back.
Bliblub, check your facts or people will make bad decisions based on them.
No its definitly not a normal Diamond just with XDA written on the Front. The back is completly different. Also the HTC Back will Definitly NOT fit on the XDA phone!
XDA Diamond will also get an extra backcover with the new improved Battery.
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No its definitly not a normal Diamond just with XDA written on the Front. The back is completly different. Also the HTC Back will Definitly NOT fit on the XDA phone!
XDA Diamond will also get an extra backcover with the new improved Battery.
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Where did you get that information from?
Other Forum, where some credible Members tested to interchange the backcovers.
Christ.. I just thought I saw the light of god. Serious, dont you guys think that sooner or later some Chineese are gonna sell a matte black cover for HTC Touch Diamond on eBay? Dont let me down guys!
www.telusmobility.com
CDMA version, beefed up battery, matte black back cover... The reason for the different shape in the rear is to account for the bigger battery. Oh, and check out that price... $149.99! Don't you wish you were a Canadian with Telus right now?
Thats that asian edition!!! With no gps and slightly slower!
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Thats that asian edition!!! With no gps and slightly slower!
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What is this, some mis-information campaign? That's a HTC Victor.
Look theres two models, the HTC Touch Diamond and the HTC Victor. The Victor does have gps and is not slower, is this just some racism because it's intended for the Asian markets or something?
The difference between the Diamond and the Victor is the styling and the weight, the Victor is something like 14g lighter, has rounded corners, a flat slightly rubberised back and looks different.
There is no other changes, no internal changes to the specifications at all.
I have a Victor, the MDA Compact IV.
Now with the XDA Ignito I was assuming it would have a Diamond back because it has a Diamond front (in the O2 catalogue) but according to google images it has their own back, which looks slightly different from that of the Victor, but that may be because they're product renders and not real shots.
It should have less ram or something and I read up some were on asian forum that I shouldnt have GPS, so I AINT BEING RACIST
lol i love being asian...
asian: hey can i have some chilli sauce?
white: that'll be 10 cents sir
asian: what! becos i'm asian i gotta pay 10 cents for chilli!!?
white: i'm so sorry, here, have some for free...
its BS the way people go thru great lengths to appear not racist... haha
you might not be racist against us, but we are racist against you nonetheless ;p
Okay I can confirm the fact that the O2 Germany Matte Battery cover won't fit onto an original HTC Touch Diamond. I just tried to do so at work today (one of my co-workers has an unbranded one) and it simply but definitely doesn't fit.
Strange thing though - wouldn't it have been easier just to design a new battery cover for O2?
MDA Compact IV (t-mobile)
The mda compact IV back is also different. So genuine diamond back will not fit mda compact IV. Only a information...
http://www.phonearena.com/htmls/Sprints-Diamond-gets-pictured-dated-article-a_3052.html
Hideous, I like how the hardware obliterates that of the VZW Diamond, but c'mon, seriously? Red backing?
I actually think its quite nice. Anyway, those pictures arent confirmed yet are they?
I like the rounded shape and the flat, non-facet back cover. I'd prefer that to the standard HTC Diamond anyday. Not so sure about the red, though.
I don't know if they are, but the date is confirmed august 28th. I agree with the fact that I wouldn't want the black faceted back cover, aka fingerprinto magneto, but I really dislike the red. The AT&T touch pro has a charcoal gray backing, works really well because it's not matte but at the same time doesn't attract fingerprints (or look horrid).
I actually find the design to be very good....
HastaSSSS
Those pictures look photoshopped. I get the feeling it'll be a looooooong time before Sprint has it to offer.
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Numerous Sprint reps have confirmed seeing/using the red backed Diamond. It is real. Most reps are saying that the Diamond will be available in limited quantities by September 2nd some stores may have it as soon as August 28th. Sprint store training for the Diamond phone will start this weekend according to what I've read.
I think it is a major downgrade in that red color. The rounded curves of the CDMA Diamond are a nice improvement over the rectangular GSM version, but this red backing significantly cheapens the look of the phone in my opinion. GSM back covers will not be able to fit on the CDMA version because it uses a larger battery and is 2.5mm thicker.
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The rounded curves of the CDMA Diamond are a nice improvement over the rectangular GSM version, but this red backing significantly cheapens the look of the phone in my opinion.
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Biiiiig 2nd.
Yeah it's like they "Fisher-Priced" this shiny expensive phone. I'm praying that it doesn't look as bad as these photos in person. Here's a video of the Telus version for comparison...
http://www.thetouchblog.com/files/ab69645b09064395d259f5d27a82363b-3.html
The screen looks so good. CDMA version of Diamond seems faster and more responsive as well.
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CDMA version of Diamond seems faster and more responsive as well.
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Couldn't be more false. Removed all tweaks and compared, touch pro was same speed navigating TF3D, faster to flip through pictures, and what was that lag with the accelerometer in Opera??? My phone flips as soon as I turn it, almost iPhone-like, and his took a good 3 seconds...
I was talking about the Diamond not the Touch Pro. Touch Pro has more RAM than the CDMA Diamond which has more RAM than the GSM Diamond. That could be why your Touch Pro is faster. I've watched a lot of videos of the GSM Diamond on Youtube and I've never seen it open up photos or Opera that fast. And usually the accelerometer lags a bit when changing photo orientation, but it didn't happen in the Telus video.
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I was talking about the Diamond not the Touch Pro. Touch Pro has more RAM than the CDMA Diamond which has more RAM than the GSM Diamond. That could be why your Touch Pro is faster. I've watched a lot of videos of the GSM Diamond on Youtube and I've never seen it open up photos or Opera that fast. And usually the accelerometer lags a bit when changing photo orientation, but it didn't happen in the Telus video.
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Hmm... I guess it's a possibility. 288 for mine, 256 for CDMA Diamond? Either way, that was an assload of lag in Opera's transfer. Not like a few seconds is gonna kill anybody.
I'm liking the look of the Sprint version.. more curved and matte flat back - would look better with a black back instead of the red.
Ladies and Gents....
I know that they are exactly the same under the hood but can anyone list the differences cosmetically, how is it that the compact is lighter etc? is it made from something different then the HTC Diamond? differences in the box too?
I am on T-Mobile UK and I am just wondering which one to go with, wether to get a original HTC one and get it unlocked or a compact and stick the sim in and off...
Thanks
MDA buttons are differernt on the front, its rounder, back is rubberised not shiny so not a fingerprint haven, i personally think MDA is a classier looking device, you dont get the htc pouch you get a nice girly grey phone sock with the mda but it does the job but doesnt look very manly taking it out the sock in the pub
Thanks for that, I think i like the look of the HTC device, not sure but just looks more classier....
yep its definitly look classier on the HTC website but i looked at one it a local orange shop yesterday and i was not impressed it was covered in marks and i guess you will spend half the time cleaning it. so its the mda for me and also t-mobile offered the best deal.
I have been told that the HTC is some metalic casing whereas the MDA is plastic? anyone confirm this?
Compact 4 looks far nicer plus t-mobile has the best data package on the high street
The HTC has a metal frame, but the back is plastic. dunno about the compact iv.
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I have been told that the HTC is some metalic casing whereas the MDA is plastic? anyone confirm this?
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I don't know about the MDA, but the HTC has a solid metal frame. It gives it a reassuring weight and feels quite solid. It think it can handle a punch (lost it a few times, but not on concrete).
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Hi,
just wanna ask if the lousy build quality is normal for the Diamond. I've yet to see one that is problem free - and I had half a dozen in hands.
Mostly the dpad is not level and one edge lifts up.
Then often the power button is not level.
Then I've seen that the stylus does not get sucked in completely as it should be by the magnet.
And finally I've seen that the battery cover does not close completely (leveling at the top end) and come off very easily?
Given the fact that I only paid 290 Euros for my brand new Diamond and the features it packs I can endure a lot.
But given the fact that I know HTC from devices like the Qtek S110 I'm really dissapointed.
The build quality of HTC seemed to have gone downhill by a lot - Diamond problems like the one noted, Touch HD color peel off, Xperia X1 cracks and color peel.
What the heck are those chinese doeing? Do they think because they are the only ones building WM phones these days customers are willing to put up with such crap???
Mmmm...
I must be the odd-one out then because mine is really smart... no such issues?! Battery cover good, stylus fits, buttons level. Mine is HTC branded, may be its the network providers' manufacturing plants that are less than top quality?
I know for a fact that all brands are not built in the same plant. Having said that, the quality should be equal where ever they're built
i have the MDA version and the build quality on it is good. Nothing sticking out of uneven.
I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.
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I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.
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All I can say then Mr Cowboy, is that you've been damn unlucky. I've been using HTC devices since 2001, and I've had one device in all that time which I could fit in your 'duff' catergory?!
Actually, HTC are Taiwanese.
Apart from the obvious xenophobia, I have also noticed that one edge of the D-pad is raised, allowing the light to leak through. I'm a bit disappointed - the Diamond is my first HTC device, and one of the reasons I bought it was hearing how good the build quality generally was on HTC phones.
Well some say Taiwan is still China. Besides that I've used HTC devices for quite a few device generations. The best one prolly was my magician - rock solid and still runs strong with no signs of any wear.
The Diamond on the other hand simply does not feel solid and clearly shows what I would describe as cost reduction effects. If you treat the Diamond as a ... device you prolly don't care. And I don't do either very much because I got mine recently very cheap (because the D2 was sitting right besides the D1 in the store the D1 was sold for less then 300 Euros).
You get a mighty good load of features for less then 300 (my old Eten X500 had cost me double that) so I don't wanna complain too much. But I feel that I'd be prepared to pay another 100 for solid build quality (metal casing etc).
I've taken a very close look at other HTCs on display in various stores around town and all of them had at least minor flaws. The black X1s already showed color peel off like the Touch HD and even the display unit of the D2 had visible dust under the screen - and I don't think it was on display for very long.
That said I think the Diamond will be my last HTC. The features are great but I simply like a bit more solidity. I exchange my own Diamond twice to end up with one that I can half way live with - first one had a stylus problem (not sucked in properly) and a power button problem (wouldn't turn own sometimes - maybe because the power button was not level and did not press properly), the second one had a royally screwed dpad (bent inwards on the right side and lifting up on the left side) and non-fitting battery cover and the third only has a bit of the pad lifting up on the right side (not as much as the second).
I looked through 6 stores in town and my percentage of a 100% perfect HTC was - 0%, none, nada.
Maybe german stores only get the crap productions because germans usually don't complain much, who knows. ;-)
I even have a X1 lying around here (ordered because I was thinking about returning my Diamond) but I'll return the X1 instead. The X1 is also HTC meaning it's disaster (cracks and/or peeling) in the making and I'm not prepared to pay a 170 Euros on top of my Diamond for that.
On the other hand build quality in general has gone downhill as it seems. Even coworkers of mine complain about the shoddy build of there iPhone-Toys. And they paid much much more than I did for my Diamond. Maybe the X2 will be what I'm looking for given the fact it's made by Foxconn/Asus.
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Prove it. Carrier brand snobbery is not going to get us anywhere.
I don't believe that either. For one HTC might be THE defacto PDA-monopolist but generall they are a rather small company. I don't think they have a lot of plants all over Taiwan.
And why should carrier devices should be build with higher 'tolorances'? Some carrier devices can be built a bit more solid - like the XDA Diamond given the different back cover - when they are changed from the original.