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MDA IV Nerfs?

So just wondering.
Seeing as the MDACompact 3 had Wifi disabled with Tmobile in the UK.
Does anyone know what changes there where to the MDA4 other than the rear of the case?
(and why they do this anyway?)

I have a MDA Compact IV from T-Mobile Germany. Its exactly the same as a HTC, beside of changes in back and front cover and branding of cause.
But there are no ther nerfs.

Aye but with the UK MDAiii they removed the Wifi, so its really the UK version I was wondering about.

They haven't removed Wifi. The rom has Youtube and Messenger removed but I flashed it straight away. The device is lighter than the diamond and it sits flat on a table.

it has no sd card slot like the other touch diamonds out there, and it indeed has the fugly grey back.
I still love mine tho

suicidal.banana said:
it has no sd card slot like the other touch diamonds out there, and it indeed has the fugly grey back.
I still love mine tho
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Touch Diamonds dont have a memory card slot either. And i personally quite like the back, it isnt a fingerprint magnet and its slightly rubberised for better grip and it sits flat on a desk.

Definitely not does not have a rubberised back, it’s more of a matt finish then a shiny gloss hence the back is fingerprint resistant.
I was shocked at how much pressure needs to be applied to get the gestures to work. I tend to use the nail as it’s more effective.
Also similar problem to my orbit is that the edge of the screen to the edge of the casing has the tiniest of gaps, but if you get a bit of grit in there, it’s never coming back out!
All in all a great upgrade, I just wished they (HTC) didn’t make so many sacrifices. Think about it, if we had a slightly bigger battery, they could have probably fitted in a micro sd card reader as well. HTC have gone on record saying that adding a micro sd card reader would have added 2 mm to the thickness. Well that 2 mm might have also ment a larger capacity battery!

If you scratch the back with your nail you can feel its rubberised in some way, not like a car tyre rubber, but ever so slightly. Also if you title it to the side and drag it on the desk you can feel it sticks.
Compromises always have to be made, some people prefer a thiner phone, some people prefer a thicker phone with more features.
I thought it was 4mm?

So in Conclusion:
Positives are the back gets no fingerprint marks.
Negatives
No SD card slot
Easy ingress of Dirt around screen
No Youtube
No Messenger
doesnt look great for T-mobile customers then really.
..or am i missing something?

I think you are missing something.
The SD card slot issue is with all Diamonds (and variants) not just the T-Mobile version
The grit around the edge of the screen is again with all Diamonds (and variants) not just the T-Mobile version
The You Tube and Messenger apps are available through custom ROMs or standalone CAB files so can be effectively ignored.
Personally I prefer the look of the T-Mobile version to the HTC version, and as got got it for pocket change, I like it even more!

The Compact IV is also something like 10-15g lighter.
So
Positives:
- Sits flat on a desk
- Has a rubberised back that gets no fingerprints
- Is 10-15g lighter than the diamond
- Camera cover doesnt get all cloudy and blurry
Negatives:
- Requires some work to get youtube/messenger and remove pink branding like installing cabs or flashing the rom

The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV is in fact the HTC TOUCH VICTOR!!!!
Not the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND!!!
(MDA COMPACT IV AND HTC TOUCH VICTOR both have 192mb ram, Diamond had 256mb ram)
Rest of specs is the same!
See: http://www.slashphone.com/htc-p3702-victor-unboxing-photo-gallery-13880

tim_allewijn said:
The T-Mobile MDA Compact IV is in fact the HTC TOUCH VICTOR!!!!
Not the HTC TOUCH DIAMOND!!!
(MDA COMPACT IV AND HTC TOUCH VICTOR both have 192mb ram, Diamond had 256mb ram)
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Yes it is also known as the Victor, but to be honest there is no difference.
FYI both the Diamond and Victor have 192MB ram, the touch pro has 256MB ram.

K so after a quick search on the victor got this
http://www.slashphone.com/tags/htc-victor
something about no A-GPS (what is that?) on certain phones in Taiwan.
Does this mean Victor has a lower level of GPS than the Diamond?

I got the TMUK MDA Compact IV which comes with a crappy grey pouch for the phone. HTC gives a leather pouch...personally I prfer the lether pouch, but Im sure I can buy it somewhere??

MDA Compact IV v HTC Touch Diamond

Ladies and Gents....
I know that they are exactly the same under the hood but can anyone list the differences cosmetically, how is it that the compact is lighter etc? is it made from something different then the HTC Diamond? differences in the box too?
I am on T-Mobile UK and I am just wondering which one to go with, wether to get a original HTC one and get it unlocked or a compact and stick the sim in and off...
Thanks

MDA buttons are differernt on the front, its rounder, back is rubberised not shiny so not a fingerprint haven, i personally think MDA is a classier looking device, you dont get the htc pouch you get a nice girly grey phone sock with the mda but it does the job but doesnt look very manly taking it out the sock in the pub

Thanks for that, I think i like the look of the HTC device, not sure but just looks more classier....

yep its definitly look classier on the HTC website but i looked at one it a local orange shop yesterday and i was not impressed it was covered in marks and i guess you will spend half the time cleaning it. so its the mda for me and also t-mobile offered the best deal.

I have been told that the HTC is some metalic casing whereas the MDA is plastic? anyone confirm this?

Compact 4 looks far nicer plus t-mobile has the best data package on the high street

The HTC has a metal frame, but the back is plastic. dunno about the compact iv.

hackmaster said:
I have been told that the HTC is some metalic casing whereas the MDA is plastic? anyone confirm this?
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I don't know about the MDA, but the HTC has a solid metal frame. It gives it a reassuring weight and feels quite solid. It think it can handle a punch (lost it a few times, but not on concrete).
EDIT: nin0 beat me to it

Lousy build quality these days?

Hi,
just wanna ask if the lousy build quality is normal for the Diamond. I've yet to see one that is problem free - and I had half a dozen in hands.
Mostly the dpad is not level and one edge lifts up.
Then often the power button is not level.
Then I've seen that the stylus does not get sucked in completely as it should be by the magnet.
And finally I've seen that the battery cover does not close completely (leveling at the top end) and come off very easily?
Given the fact that I only paid 290 Euros for my brand new Diamond and the features it packs I can endure a lot.
But given the fact that I know HTC from devices like the Qtek S110 I'm really dissapointed.
The build quality of HTC seemed to have gone downhill by a lot - Diamond problems like the one noted, Touch HD color peel off, Xperia X1 cracks and color peel.
What the heck are those chinese doeing? Do they think because they are the only ones building WM phones these days customers are willing to put up with such crap???

Mmmm...
I must be the odd-one out then because mine is really smart... no such issues?! Battery cover good, stylus fits, buttons level. Mine is HTC branded, may be its the network providers' manufacturing plants that are less than top quality?
I know for a fact that all brands are not built in the same plant. Having said that, the quality should be equal where ever they're built

i have the MDA version and the build quality on it is good. Nothing sticking out of uneven.

I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.

Private-Cowboy said:
I've only tested HTC's own devices. And I've yet to see one that is free of flaws. Even the new D2 has problems like dust under the screen etc.
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All I can say then Mr Cowboy, is that you've been damn unlucky. I've been using HTC devices since 2001, and I've had one device in all that time which I could fit in your 'duff' catergory?!

Actually, HTC are Taiwanese.
Apart from the obvious xenophobia, I have also noticed that one edge of the D-pad is raised, allowing the light to leak through. I'm a bit disappointed - the Diamond is my first HTC device, and one of the reasons I bought it was hearing how good the build quality generally was on HTC phones.

Well some say Taiwan is still China. Besides that I've used HTC devices for quite a few device generations. The best one prolly was my magician - rock solid and still runs strong with no signs of any wear.
The Diamond on the other hand simply does not feel solid and clearly shows what I would describe as cost reduction effects. If you treat the Diamond as a ... device you prolly don't care. And I don't do either very much because I got mine recently very cheap (because the D2 was sitting right besides the D1 in the store the D1 was sold for less then 300 Euros).
You get a mighty good load of features for less then 300 (my old Eten X500 had cost me double that) so I don't wanna complain too much. But I feel that I'd be prepared to pay another 100 for solid build quality (metal casing etc).
I've taken a very close look at other HTCs on display in various stores around town and all of them had at least minor flaws. The black X1s already showed color peel off like the Touch HD and even the display unit of the D2 had visible dust under the screen - and I don't think it was on display for very long.
That said I think the Diamond will be my last HTC. The features are great but I simply like a bit more solidity. I exchange my own Diamond twice to end up with one that I can half way live with - first one had a stylus problem (not sucked in properly) and a power button problem (wouldn't turn own sometimes - maybe because the power button was not level and did not press properly), the second one had a royally screwed dpad (bent inwards on the right side and lifting up on the left side) and non-fitting battery cover and the third only has a bit of the pad lifting up on the right side (not as much as the second).
I looked through 6 stores in town and my percentage of a 100% perfect HTC was - 0%, none, nada.
Maybe german stores only get the crap productions because germans usually don't complain much, who knows. ;-)
I even have a X1 lying around here (ordered because I was thinking about returning my Diamond) but I'll return the X1 instead. The X1 is also HTC meaning it's disaster (cracks and/or peeling) in the making and I'm not prepared to pay a 170 Euros on top of my Diamond for that.
On the other hand build quality in general has gone downhill as it seems. Even coworkers of mine complain about the shoddy build of there iPhone-Toys. And they paid much much more than I did for my Diamond. Maybe the X2 will be what I'm looking for given the fact it's made by Foxconn/Asus.

grahamkdt said:
I know for a fact that all brands are not built in the same plant. Having said that, the quality should be equal where ever they're built
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Prove it. Carrier brand snobbery is not going to get us anywhere.

I don't believe that either. For one HTC might be THE defacto PDA-monopolist but generall they are a rather small company. I don't think they have a lot of plants all over Taiwan.
And why should carrier devices should be build with higher 'tolorances'? Some carrier devices can be built a bit more solid - like the XDA Diamond given the different back cover - when they are changed from the original.

How hard is it to change the Xperia housing?

Hi,
I'm asking for some guidance from the people who have actually changed their housing on the Xperia.
I bought a silver one with some cracks, and some marks on the housing. However, €60 for a brand new black housing would be a good deal for me, as long as I would manage to replace it succesfully.
I changed the housing on my SE P1i from the silver one to a black one before, and already found that quite hard, and now that I've seen the instruction video and read the service manual on how to change the housing, I'm a bit hesitant about replacing it, in the fear that I would break my new €200 smartphone.
So, have any of you done this, how hard was it, and how much experience did you already have dis- and reassembling phones?
Also: Did any of you manage to break anything in the process?
Thanks in advance, and sorry for my bad English,
Ed Banger

check this out:
For front: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RcDqyEyC_HY
& rear: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWDurQrRt-Y
I think you can get complete housing for approx $100 if you shop around. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....Category=20345&_trkparms=algo=LVI&its=I&otn=1

Hi I also would like to change my housing because of some cracks, this is my first time. so will it be really difficult for a newbie?
also, where to buy to get the cheapest yet legit?
I found this cnn.cn is it safe everyone? it currently offers 79.99 USD for the full housing. is that the market price? thanks guys.

I changed a lot of phone houses and the one of xperia is easyer than nokia ones. if you follow the instructial movie on youtube you will not have any problem there are some dificult places.
here read this thread its posted by Crank1 its his experiance with changing the housing. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550258
80 Dollar is the market price i think the cheaper ones are used or not originaly SE housing.
goog luck with changin the housing.

thanks for the reply, now its quite a dilemma which one I should buy, the used one is 43AUD while the new one is almost 100AUD. Is the new one really worth it? The used one description says its fascia while the 100AUD is OEM. any suggestion would be great. thanks

much harder than it looks
vietdoan20062006

I did it last week
Hi Ed,
See my post for info....hope it helps & good luck!!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550258

Can't read lol
Ooops, just noticed Commodoor had already given you the link. Hope it helped.

Crank1 said:
Ooops, just noticed Commodoor had already given you the link. Hope it helped.
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Yhea i beat yha
I did buy a new housing for 80$ and i did get buy a hard case for preventing it getting scratches.
so what did you do, you gonna give it a try?

80$ for housing, it must be gold housing to be charged at the price,
seriously, checkout ebay, amazon they offer lots cheaper.
i would pay $20 for housing only

Ive done a few already, not too hard if you know what you doing and be careful.

I have changed the housing of my Xperia partly. Read the story here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4403612&postcount=14
It's quite easy if the housing fits well, the cheap housing does not fit very well....

hey guys... i dont really want to change my housing cause its more or less 100%...
HOWEVER i have a slight problem with the screen not being tight (mate has the black one and apparently they dont have the problem - and i can feel his one doesnt move a mm when its extended... whereas mine has a slight give)
whats the best method to tighten it?
(will it be obvious when i pry it apart?)

ryousuke said:
hey guys... i dont really want to change my housing cause its more or less 100%...
HOWEVER i have a slight problem with the screen not being tight (mate has the black one and apparently they dont have the problem - and i can feel his one doesnt move a mm when its extended... whereas mine has a slight give)
whats the best method to tighten it?
(will it be obvious when i pry it apart?)
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I had the same problem. after i changed mine housing and made it black it was gone. maybe the black ones are a little bit better

The silver is so much nicer looking thou
the black looks weird with a silver kb
but thatsjust me
anyone have a silver model which screen is as the black unit? (i.e not flexing)

ryousuke said:
The silver is so much nicer looking thou
the black looks weird with a silver kb
but thatsjust me
anyone have a silver model which screen is as the black unit? (i.e not flexing)
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yhea i have to admit the keyboard looks weird but the front is black and that looks weird on the silver one. so you have to make a choice. people see the front first and that makes the impression

Will Diamond 2 digitizer fit on MDA Compact V

A box fell om my T-Mobile MDA Compact V leaving a nasty gouge over the entire height of the screen.
I have been told that the only real remedy is to replace the digitizer.
Unfortunately I have found that the digitizer for the MDA Compact V is not commercialy available where as the one for the Diamond 2 is.
Can anyone tell me if the two are interchangeable? Can I replace the digitizer on my MDA Compact V with one meant for a Diamond 2?

They should be, the pure and mda compact v have the same housingg, so the digitizer will most likely work. Actually I'm nearly positive that it will work perfectly

No it wont fit, the bottom of the digitizer on the Compact V is curved, the Diamond II is flat.
I've got the same problem, the digitzer scratches way to easily. I'm looking at putting the Compact V in a Diamond II housing, I can find the housing and digitizer but cannot find the buttons anywhere.

Whoops, my mistake. I was thinking of the pure, not the regular TD2. You're right, they will not fight. The top is also a little different. And can you not get it shipped from online?

Unfortunately I cannot get it online.
The prices T-Mobile charges for repairs are insane so I contacted a number of 3rd party repair shops. None of them are able to obtain parts for the MDA Compact V.
My own searches found a supplier in china who was rumoured to have them but will not reply to my inquiries.
So for now I will just live with the scratches.

there are some replacement cases on ebay

MDA compact V digitizer replacement
Hi,
Just got my digitizer today. bought it off eBay from --link removed because of aggressive spam tactics of seller-- China.
i placed my order on 12/4/10 and with the volcano smoke it still made it very fast!
so I'm well happy!
will start replacing it now and post how it goes....
ok i have a problem:
all the guides i found where for the diamond 2 and not
t-mobile compact v(topaz100 TS). and it looks like it has a lower cover over two of the screws and i can't get it open...LOL any help and i'll even post some pics...

The two screws are accessible from front.
Beneath the buttons is a piece of plastic with the T-Mobile logo.
Pop this off and find the missing screws

the-equinoxe said:
The two screws are accessible from front.
Beneath the buttons is a piece of plastic with the T-Mobile logo.
Pop this off and find the missing screws
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wow thank you so much! will try it now and let you know how it goes...

leshemnoam said:
wow thank you so much! will try it now and let you know how it goes...
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How did you get on? Any insights you can share? I'm about to do the same thing.
Cheers,
FrankyG

I have a scratch on the T-mobile TD2 as well, can the digitizer be replaced without changing the lcd?

need an new lcd for the mda compact 5
my problem is that the lcd has a problem and i want to chanche it but does anybody know if this is the sam as in the htc diamond 2 model

My MDA compact V screen does not work as it should do.
leshemnoam said:
Hi,
Just got my digitizer today. bought it off eBay from --link removed because of aggressive spam tactics of seller-- China.
i placed my order on 12/4/10 and with the volcano smoke it still made it very fast!
so I'm well happy!
will start replacing it now and post how it goes....
ok i have a problem:
all the guides i found where for the diamond 2 and not
t-mobile compact v(topaz100 TS). and it looks like it has a lower cover over two of the screws and i can't get it open...LOL any help and i'll even post some pics...
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Can you send me the seller by email?
I have a similar problem my screen has just a small scratch on it and now it keep on focusing I guess on that spot. So I need another screen I am afraid, or is there someone who has another idea how to fix my phone?
Looking forward to hear from you!