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Alright, so since we have figured out how to get the radio to work on our TYTN's i was wondering if there was a way that we can now broadcast our own radio's..
I mean sort of making our phones into an Itrip for example.
You load audio manager, then click broadcast... pick the channel... and the music plays over your stero....
What do you think?
There is a flaw
From what I've been following, they discovered the possibility of an FM chip in the Tilt only to later find out that it would be impossible and or non-existent.
Correct me if I'm wrong (It'd be awesome if I was)
Last I checked, FM radio is not working on Kaiser. *edit* - FM receivers only receive, so the likelihood of a PocketPC FM transceiver is slim.
Serving a streaming broadcast over the Internet from your phone would be cool, but I think most people would like to use it as a live video/audio feed source, rather than streaming pre-recorded content (which can be better served from a desktop or server, without worrying about running out of batteries)
I'm still not sure where this thread is headed. I'm assuming that you'd next want to try to get someone to do this? If so, perhaps this thread should be moved into development and hacking.
Hope this helps!
Hi all:
recently at work one of my collegues was showing me a program in his phone (sprint's muzak..not sure about spelling, by samsung) called "Trasmitter". This program allows him to "transmit" music/mp3 files from his cell phone to a FM radio station of his choice in his car thus enabling him to listen the music through car speakers.
A week agao i had read here about a way to transmit music to car speakers using motorala equipment using bluetooth however that piece of equipment is 99 $ and this program is probably alot cheaper.
Does anyone know if a program like this exists or can be created for Kaiser/tilt/tytnII?
...p.s. conversation started by us comparing phones, which i couldn't believe he was trying to compare his 50$ phone to my 600 tilt, but he got me when he showed me that program .. something my tilt can't do :-(
any suggestions/answers/comments appreciated.
u're probably referring to the muziq, by LG. its not all just software based, it has a built fm transmitter. if you want that function for your device, then you need to buy an fm transmitter.
Yeah that is not a software issue...the kaiser does not have a built in fm transmitter, so you will need to buy a 3rd party piece of hardware in order to accomplish this. Try googling or looking on eBay...alternatively several manufactures are making bluetooth compatible in dash stereos that will work with the built-in bluetooth compatibilities of the kaiser.
thanks
thanks guys 4 replying so promptly. i'll search around to see if there is any cheaper bluetooth equipment than motorola. i'll let u guys know if i find anything.
The cheapest way is as ajmoncrief said: get an RF modulator, they're like $15 at Radio Shack, and a $5 USB to headphone adapter to connect the RF modulator to the phone. Works like a champ. You could also go ghetto-style and, instead of the RF modulator, use one of those cassette-looking things with the wire that us old folk used to hook our diskman up to the stereo, that'll work just as well and is a bit cheaper.
I'm pretty sure this still requires root, but I would be interested on having this feature as part of my phone.
www.androidguys.com/2010/01/27/moto-cliqs-hidden-feature/
also on www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/moto-cliq-hacked-to-enable-fm-radio-easy-listenin-coming-soon/
this guy has copied an FMradio lib file and bin file and installed a fmradio apk he found in an lg rom to his moto cliq and in turn enabled the fm radio that is part of the broadcom wireless chip. Does anyone know if all the htc phones have that same wireless chip with fm receiver/transmitter built in? Also I know we can load the apk's but it is the bin and lib files are blocked from write permission until we find root access?
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csht said:
I'm pretty sure this still requires root, but I would be interested on having this feature as part of my phone.
www.androidguys.com/2010/01/27/moto-cliqs-hidden-feature/
also on www.engadget.com/2010/01/28/moto-cliq-hacked-to-enable-fm-radio-easy-listenin-coming-soon/
this guy has copied an FMradio lib file and bin file and installed a fmradio apk he found in an lg rom to his moto cliq and in turn enabled the fm radio that is part of the broadcom wireless chip. Does anyone know if all the htc phones have that same wireless chip with fm receiver/transmitter built in? Also I know we can load the apk's but it is the bin and lib files are blocked from write permission until we find root access?
CH
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I am not sure if ALL Htc phones have the capability, I do know that my Raphael, Tilt, Xperia have all had it.
This will be a possibilty, but sadly not until we get root.
We are getting closer to it though
it should have fm capability. the built in antenna might be an issue at getting far off stations but it should work.
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I am not sure if ALL Htc phones have the capability, I do know that my Raphael, Tilt, Xperia have all had it.
This will be a possibilty, but sadly not until we get root.
We are getting closer to it though
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I meant to say that the htc phones that share the same broadcom wireless chip, a/b/g and bluetooth probably all have the fm radio although I haven't been able to locate a bill of materials for the eris or hero. isuppli did one for the nexus but that has wireless n, most likely a different chip. I'm pretty sure my htc touch(cdma) does not have that, being it lacking the wifi connectivity.
Thanks for the reply. Good luck to everyone working on rooting. hopefully there will be some trick to loading a hacked recovery image off the sd card or something, even a nasty terminal command
CH
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I meant to say that the htc phones that share the same broadcom wireless chip, a/b/g and bluetooth probably all have the fm radio although I haven't been able to locate a bill of materials for the eris or hero. isuppli did one for the nexus but that has wireless n, most likely a different chip. I'm pretty sure my htc touch(cdma) does not have that, being it lacking the wifi connectivity.
Thanks for the reply. Good luck to everyone working on rooting. hopefully there will be some trick to loading a hacked recovery image off the sd card or something, even a nasty terminal command
CH
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I hear what your saying...would it be the broadcom chip? Maybe devices post Raphael?
Not sure..
But anyways...Our Devs are hard at work and I have to say this is the most impresive team of Devs I have seen together in awhile.
I will shoot out news and updates this weekend...
If you can find out what chip is in the phone, I can find out if it has FM or not. I'd need a model number, and preferably an FCC ID. Not sure how you would get those, though.
have you try "Pandora" it's the best radio apps for droid eris.
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have you try "Pandora" it's the best radio apps for droid eris.
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Slacker is pretty nice too. For music playing, I use TuneWiki.
Pandora and slacker are fine if you want to listen to music, but I need an actual FM radio receiver for the Eris for when I'm at the gym. They broadcast the sound from the TVs over the radio and although I get it no problem on my HD2, my girlfriend cant find any apps for her Eris.
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would really like to know if anyone knows if the eris has fm capabilities becouse that would be so awseome!!!!
Does anyone have the apk to try this out?
I have some pictures of the mobo of the Eris here: http://s811.photobucket.com/albums/zz37/Gh0stRyd3r/Eris%20Inside/.
Maybe one of those will let you know what chip model we have for the FM radio?
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Can we do this now that we have root? I would happily alpha test.
the eris does not support FM radio signals.
shut down...
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so no one can tell me what chip the eris uses for wireless b/g and bluetooth or whether that chip contains the fm receiver or transmitter but you say it doesn't support fm... we all know it does not support fm. Just like rooting, it's a hack.
I took a look at your pictures and popped my phone apart as well, I couldn't make out the broadcomm chip that i was looking for but I didn't dig too deep in fear of something not working when I reassembled.
There doesn't seem to be much word on the Motorola cliq as well so not sure where the lg fm hack faded into.
So I found the FM radio.apk and lib files to run it, it doesn't get along well with the HTC device, the debugger has it looking for a bunch of motorola things. I was not able to run the test the other forms had as I was missing a file from the bin directory.
http://forum.androidfan.ru/index.php?showtopic=1455
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=608340
http://www.modmymoto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=526775
no... like really, I looked up the chipsets, they cannot be hacked with simple lib files and a apk. you would need to at least change out a crystal oscillator, and even then, that's just a theory. (a dangerous, brick your phone in 8 ways to sunday theory)
any idea which chip is in there? I figured even if HTC used the fm enabled chip they would not connect the audio out or fm antennae. it would be a cool trick. especially fm out.
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any idea which chip is in there? I figured even if HTC used the fm enabled chip they would not connect the audio out or fm antennae. it would be a cool trick. especially fm out.
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if i remember correctly one of the devs told me that the eris CANNOT have fm, not even with a hack or anything. maybe if you solder your own fm chip, the maybe, but until then, i really dont believe it is possible.
By far, hands down, without peer or exception, the absolute best in Radio for the Android is RadioTime v2.1 (current version)
Over 30,000 stations, world-wide, every kind of format you can name. Even the station where my son is a DJ in Texas is broadcast. I can listen to my hometown Boston radio stations that I haven't been able to listen to in years. Lots of Podcasts, too. And I can listen to NPR Car Talk anytime I want. woo-hoo!
I have a nokia remote (AD-54) and was wondering if it could be possible to make it work with SGS with some software mod, or is it physically impossible? It's a nice remote with 3.5 socket, allowing me to plug in my own headphones, and would be great for controlling music playback (cause with just the touch screen it's a pain really). The mic on this remote works fine with SGS as far as I've read, but the controls don't.
www.rolmobile.es/tienda/images/hs45-ad54_312X312.jpg
And, if it's not possible, do you know of any wired remote with 3.5 socket and music controls that works with SGS?
Cheers.
Ditto - I would love a remote for my headphones to control the music player as well.
Nokia might work...
I went ahead and bought one of these.... it does not work out of the box, sound is not output correctly.
What does work is switching the phone into TV out mode. In TV out mode the sound is right. However I can't get the buttons to work at all.
When the phone is not in TV out mode then the headphone socket output is different and non-Nokia compatible. I don't know if that means iPhone accessories work or not.
Its a hardware limitation. I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.
Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function. SGS doesn't. The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.
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Its a hardware limitation.
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Ok.
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I very much doubt the SGS is designed to receive input, apart from microphone streams, through the headphone socket.
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Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.
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Nokia handsets know there is another bit or byte or what ever it is coming through which in turn activates a function.
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Thanks for that exact explanation.
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SGS doesn't.
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Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.
SargeRX8 said:
The way the Nokia headset is designed, it really only works with Nokias, even to give or accept sound as an output/input.
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That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.
On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.
You can use alternative music players like Tunewiki or Cube. They can play the next song by pressing the headset button twice
Device like this one uses the Mic connection for remote
http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/blackberry_9700_headset_pinout.shtml
it *looks like the two are inverted for the SGS (and you have a function for "PushButton")
http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml
Altough this one states that it is the same
http://pinouts.ru/HeadsetsHeadphones/nokia_handsfree_pinout.shtml
and we know that nokia's TV-Out are working.
For the buttons to work, the OS has to understand the same command as on the nokia, is it responding to anything when you push the buttons?
Remember that enabling TV out mode changes the pinout of the phone.
In "normal" mode with a Nokia control adapter in sound is not correct.
In TV out mode with a Nokia control adapter sound is correct.
In neither case do the Nokia buttons do anything - Play/pause, stop, fwd, rwd, vol+, vol-.
I'm sure the phone is only Nokia compatible when TV out is enabled. In this mode we don't know if..
1) The hardware of the phone can receive a signal from the buttons.
2) The firmware of the phone allows this to be passed to the software.
3) Software can use this input for media players.
Outside of Nokia mode, I don't know the answer to the pinouts.
Of the three pinout links you posted... http://pinoutsguide.com/HeadsetsHeadphones/samsung_galaxy_headset_pinout.shtml seems to be verified. There are three posts saying it's incorrect, but they simply say that the left and right channels are reversed. It's implied from that then that the other aspects are correct.
I think since we're no further forward it wouldn't be a total waste for me to go ahead and get one of the iPhone control adapters off eBay and see what the result is?
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Ok.
Oh wait, you're just guessing you don't know if it's a hardware limitation or not - and you're wrong.
Thanks for that exact explanation.
Of course it doesn't. I'd have posted that the attachment worked if it did.
That's bollocks too. It outputs sound just fine. The question which you've not answered is if the SGS can "see" the signal generated when a button is pressed on the Nokia remote. You don't know the answer so why are you trying to answer the question with "It's a hardware limitation.". All you have done in your post is guess the answer as no. I'd guess it was a no too, but I don't know either, which is why I'm asking.
On forums it just clutters things up and adds useless content to a thread if people who don't know the answer try to answer it by making it up. I appreciate you're trying to help, but unless you know the answer to the question then you're not helping at all.
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I try to help and you insult me? You are clearly a dunce. Ill stay out of your thread.
I was making a guess based on what is known. The hardware inside the SGS is different to the nokia. That link posted above proved the pinout is different thus proving what I said to be correct, its a hardware limitation. What the Nokia headset sends out as a signal is not going to be received by the SGS.
Kindly get bent and refrain from posting your useless crap. Unless you work for Samsung or Nokia as a hardware engineer or they release the information, or you've spent time following the circuit of the phones, you will too be making a guess.
In non tv mode the sound works fine for me. Are u sure you have a real Nokia ad54. A couple of the fakes I got off eBay don't work correctly. If u have a real one the sound works fine for music/books and when u get a call the sound will also work.
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In non tv mode the sound works fine for me. Are u sure you have a real Nokia ad54. A couple of the fakes I got off eBay don't work correctly. If u have a real one the sound works fine for music/books and when u get a call the sound will also work.
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I cannot be sure if I have a real one or a fake. Music sounds ok when it's not in TV out mode, but some parts are missing on some tracks. I'm guessing I'm hearing left or right channel only on both sides - but I'd need to find a file to test that with to be sure.
The one I got looks exactly like the one at the top of this thread. It came without the headphones. It even had the cable tie wrapped in the same way.
Argh! I've just done a left/right channel test... and in normal and in TV out mode the left and right channels are separate and correct. It turns out the AD-54 I have has a slightly dodgy connection.
The test I used is here - http://www.wooferbasstest.com/left-and-right-channel-verification-audio-systems/sound-effects.html if that's any use to anyone.
So after taking a complete wrong turning... apologies... back to what t1mman was saying...
There is no response at all from the Nokia buttons. I've even made sure I'm wiggling the wires about while I do it with both the device switched to the in position and the off position. As I'm still not convinced though I wouldn't mind lgkahn's input on it - Do the buttons work in any way for you on the AD-54?
We know at this stage then that the Samsung and the Nokia both use the same channel (ring2) (my rusty electrical knowledge tells me that it is not possible to use ground?). However the SGS is either incapable of seeing the Nokia signals, or is not looking for them so ignores them... I think that's the summary of where things are.
Going forward from here I think there's no point in trying a iPod pushbutton thing - so unless someone has a different opinion I won't bother getting one off eBay.
It would be interesting for someone who knows more about the phone itself to let us know if it's even conceivable to try to see if the phone is seeing a signal, because if it is seeing a signal then perhaps it could be taught to respond to it? I'm way out of my depth there.
Other than that though, it seems to me that the Nokia device serves no purpose, and the only way to pause/play music is to use an app that pauses/plays when the headphones are disconnected.
hi, i guess that this approach is dead isnt?
I want to know the same..
I know this had been covered before but for the benefit of the newer crowd this is a discussion of modifications, software and hardware. I currently am working on an in dash mount for my streak. I like the idea of having a touch screen radio in my vehicle. The past two attempts have resulted in failure but I think my third attempt will turn out well.
Any others out there?
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Here is a bit of info for you. Technically the bcm4329 chip has a FM radio functionality.
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I did not even consider to look into this as an option. since I read more than I respond the link to the server is hard to find by digging through the forums so I have it saved. I am guessing I need to flash both of the zips to get it to work? I am going to do the usual back up of the system and give it a go. Thanks for the info i will see how well it works.
Ok, you got me. How do the zip files install? I tried cwm and update method, so maybe it is a newer version of cwm?
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http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth-RF-Silicon-and-Software-Solutions/BCM4329
As for installing, read around, instructions are here.
I did some looking around, what I read us that the wifi edition does not support the radio function. I used the forum search feature, new to that, and after ask the Web searching and forum searching I turned up nothing. Did I search wrong our the wrong topic? I did find the radio app but there is no sound from it even after tuning and turning it on and it required super user permissions.
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I believe that all BCM43xx chips support fm radio, at least that's what they say on their spec sheets.
But many devices simply dont have the fm drivers installed and active.
Out of all the dell devices, only the SPro has official radio support. (All dell devices use BCM4329 chips except for the S5, which uses a BCM4325)
They attempted to get radio working on the S5 but they never released anything that worked.
BCM43xx chips are combo chips that support the following:
802.11
Bluetooth
FM radio
Obviously they cant not support wifi or BT, they're pretty much a requirement now, but the fm radio part isnt.
You'd need a headset to use it though, as it universally uses the headphone wires as it's antenna.
As soon as I get some stable builds going, I would love to put FM radio into my builds.
Yea I had to put in a headset for the radio app to function I just didn't get any sound. Still not sure what is wrong but I'm not giving up yet until there are no options left. I'm running the wifi only version of Steve's ROM so I'm not sure what all options are enabled in his roms. I started out on an OG Droid so modding and testing is nothing new to me I've bricked devices a few times, just late to the streak scene. My last device was a Bionic and I bricked that one more that the OG Droid.
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I can't seen to find the needed files to get it to work. Obviously the streak 5 files won't work, tried two radio apps I found here. One was a very basic radio app that didn't work and the other was a version that had a better GUI but still either did not function or no sound. It gets difficult to be this late in the game and find old information that gets buried. Do I need any of the radio files from the server? I believe the host is the Manii, I apologize if that is spelled wrong I do everything I can from the streak.
Update: I'm taking a guess here but the fm.**** file should go in the system/bin folder to get the fm function to work?
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Here's a summary of FM support on dell devices (and it's extended family's):
S5: Sorta has fm radio support (look up "fm_hcitool" and "spirit fm")
S7: None that we're aware of
S10: None that we're aware of
SPro: Working radio support built in
V: None that we're aware of
"Streak2 5": None that we're aware of (opus one)
"Streak2 7": Currently confirming (sterling)
The Qisda devices (S5/S7/V/"S2 5") all have comments about fm support, but it's completely broken.
You might be able to try spirit fm, otherwise short of fm being natively supported in the rom: fm radio isnt going to work.
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This is completely OT: but lenovo found the best way to support multiple devices:
The LePad S2007 and S2010 use the same, identical rom even though they're different devices (7" tab and 10" tab)
The S2007 is (likely) what would have been the Streak2 7 if dell didnt cancel "sterling"
I understand you are looking at the hardware level. Just figured I'd share what I use as an app... WiFi only streak7 in my car on an official mounted dell home dock in the dash. Then tethered to my cell for data, 3.5mm out on the dock connected to my head unit, all sounds play through the car.
TuneIn Radio(I have the pro version)
No FM hardware used, just the data connection through my cell
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So asI have read the fm won't work on my S7. Too bad it would have been nice. I did try to add the fm file and it did not work on any application for native fm radio. Still love the device though. I'll hold out until JB works, if the bugs can get squashed.
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