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Having used the phone for x2 days here are a list of the problems I have noticed so far ...
1) Battery life sucks. After a full recharge overnight the phone lasts from about 8am to 5pm, and that is without using it too much. I have pushmail activated so GPRS is always on.
2) The reception is definitely not as good (c/w trinity and tytnII). I am on T-mobile in the UK. My reception at work is not usually that good, but now it is non existant.
3) At times the Touchflo 3D menu can be quick jerky/sluggish taking more than a few seconds to refresh which makes selecting the correct menu item difficult. Other times it is smooth and works well.
4) Very tempermental when answering a call. Often cuts off after a few rings or when the green button is pressed. My wav ring tone file doesn't start properly and is distorted intially, then begins to work.
5) Despite having a gprs connection the weather doesn't always update.
6) On the browser tab of the TouchFlo, it can be difficult to select one of your favorite links, it doesn't always select.
Agree with above. In addition:
1. Does not remember backlight settings in battery e.g. I would like the backlight to remain for 1 min, but it always defaults to 10 sec (I have unchecked auto light adjustment)
2. Does not remember phone view settings under MENU\VIEW. I would like it to display ALL CALLS, but it defaults to CALLS AND CONTACTS even without a reset i.e. if I exit the phone screen and return after a few minutes, it shows this behavior.
3. ROM definately slower than Athena AP4 (6.1 base) by PK.
4. I thought it had 256 ROM and 192 RAM (thats what the box says), but the memory app reports 82.81 and 133.08M respectively (waiting for Comnex, PK team to see if they can come up with a similar cracker that they did for Athena)
I definately agree with the signal strength, my touch cruise had stellar signal strength in my house, the diamond is poor.
not had chance to fully test battery.
My weather has always updated regularly and phone calls have been great on 3uk, no dropped calls at all.
Touch flow 3d is taking some getting used to but i definately think its an improvement.
All in all my moans are:
1. Signal not as good as cruise.
2. It was nice to have memory card in touch cruise (8gig) for dam fast file transfer (when taken out and used as usb drive) the 4 gig in the diamond is quite sluggish if your moving a lot of files.
Earlier this week I could have sworn you all would think I am nuts when I did my review.. I guess you are all experiencing the same problems I had!! HTC needs to fix!
The ringer is also quite soft !!!!
I'm sure a radio update, albeit not for USA, will be out and will improve reception!
If there really is a software issue thats holding back the UK release i'm sure you can expect a new rom in a matter of days.
But since all current diamonds are grey, where would you get that rom from?
Also if they are branded for a HK operator will you even be able to install the HTC rom without hard/soft spl.
Is anyone with a diamond able to register to any HTC site? UK, USA or HK?
Why are they saying they are grey?? All Diamonds are made in HongKong anyway!
mobilitytoday said:
Why are they saying they are grey?? All Diamonds are made in HongKong anyway!
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Physically there's no difference of course, its just the serial number - which means HTC may not honour waranty in a different country, and possibly CID lock if its made for an operator - which means generic roms may not work.
In this case i think its just about the waranty and not being able to register to the HTC website to get ROMs.
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Physically there's no difference of course, its just the serial number - which means HTC may not honour waranty in a different country, and possibly CID lock if its made for an operator - which means generic roms may not work.
In this case i think its just about the waranty and not being able to register to the HTC website to get ROMs.
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the HTC site isnt accepting ANY diamond serial numbers yet as it has not been updated...
An update on the ROM though, HTC have identified some "undocumented features" and promise an update but will take a few months...
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the HTC site isnt accepting ANY diamond serial numbers yet as it has not been updated...
An update on the ROM though, HTC have identified some "undocumented features" and promise an update but will take a few months...
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Thats another unconfirmed romour. Until its confirmed officialy or at least by more than 1 person you can't assume it to be fact!
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Thats another unconfirmed romour. Until its confirmed officialy or at least by more than 1 person you can't assume it to be fact!
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whateva champ, i have my sources...
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whateva champ, i have my sources...
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lol if all else fails its the 'i just know trust me'
From what i've seen this is based on ONE guy who called HTC and says he was told that. That then got posted in various forums slightly modified, and now it seems it has turned into 'i have my sources...'
I'll wait for official confirmation thanks
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lol if all else fails its the 'i just know trust me'
I'll wait for official confirmation thanks
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then pull up a chair and get in line with everyone else, because we all know HTC are hopless when it comes to "official" confirmation.
As if ANY company will own up to "undocumented features" in ANY product.
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then pull up a chair and get in line with everyone else, because we all know HTC are hopless when it comes to "official" confirmation.
As if ANY company will own up to "undocumented features" in ANY product.
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I edited my post while u were posting that it seems.. see above!
More creditable sources are claiming that HTC are not happy at all about what expansys are upto.
someone1234 said:
I edited my post while u were posting that it seems.. see above!
More creditable sources are claiming that HTC are not happy at all about what expansys are upto.
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once again im not quoting other postings, im quoting people in the dev team at HTC.
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once again im not quoting other postings, im quoting people in the dev team at HTC.
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ok fair enough, you'll forgive me if i'm not 100% convinced
What about the camera on the diamond ?
Is it the same as on the tytn2 and touch cruise (meaning dropping fps and lagging as hell in darker places) ?
the camera seems quicker in darker conditions, on other thing i need help on, how do you delete files in the windows folder, i need to free up some space as these vga apps kill the free storage space and i like to keep most progs installed to the main mem. The reason i ask is because there is alot of wasted space ie the opera cab file is in the windows folder at 4meg. i have resco explorer but cant unchecck "rom file". This opera browser is amazingly fast btw!
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....how do you delete files in the windows folder....
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afaik you cant delete those files. to get rid of those you need your own cooked rom, where you exclude those files, before uploading the rom to your device.
there is a lot of information about rom cooking in the hermes thread and in the wiki, if you are interested.
hope that helps,
chaos42
Hi Guys,
There is a new hotfix from HTC regarding the above issue here is the below link.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=502
Hot Fix for resolving the prolonged ring response issue in HTC Touch Pro Release Date: 2009-02-19 Category: Hotfix
The device will keep ringing for a few seconds after the caller hangs up the call. You may answer a phone call without anyone responding on the other and think it’s a dropped call, but actually it’s because the caller has already discontinued the call. If you encounter this problem, please install this hot fix to resolve this issue.
Installation Instructions:
Follow the instructions below to download and install the hot fix on your device:
Make sure you have Microsoft ActiveSync® installed on your Windows XP PC or Windows Mobile Device Center on your Windows Vista® PC. You can find Microsoft ActiveSync from this link or Windows Mobile Device Center from this link.
Connect and synchronize your device with your PC via Microsoft ActiveSync® or Windows Mobile Device Center using the USB cable.
To download the hot fix, first select the check box below. Next, select the hot fix and the desired FTP site then click Download.
Copy the hot fix, which is an .exe file, to your device.
To install the hot fix, tap the .exe file and follow the on-screen instructions.
* If you perform a hard reset of your device, you need to reinstall the hot fix after the hard reset.
Unable to install: Incorrect version error?
Any ideas?
I called support and they said that might be for the previous version of ROM... and they will call me for the news...
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Unable to install: Incorrect version error?
Any ideas?
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Same here...
Sorry guys, same problem for me too.
I dont mind if some mod can delete this thread.
Taking a look at the contents of the download, it looks as though the highest version of the OS that it will accept is 4.21 - I think this must be either an error in the packaging, or we've got a REALLY old fix. I tried to patch the EXE with a more up to date OS version number, but it was having none of it - it probably fails a checksum or something, and says that there's something wrong with the certificate, or that there's a file missing.
Maybe somebody could look to repackage it?
Cheers,
Steve.
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=502
Keyword in there is EUROPE! Its not for USA guys its also not for CDMA.
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http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=502
Keyword in there is EUROPE! Its not for USA guys its also not for CDMA.
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Last time I checked, the UK was in Europe.
Cheers,
Steve.
this is for GSM unlocked versions only just like the new rom that is out.
from what i hear the US CDMA versions are on there way.
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this is for GSM unlocked versions only just like the new rom that is out.
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Which is what I've got, and it simply won't install.
Cheers,
Steve.
Installed fine on my device.
The delay before the ringing starts seems to have grown shorter, but not by much.
Installed nicely on my TIR v11R-Based Raphael
Once again, North America is left waiting...as I understand it, this works only on European branded phones? I guess it is the branding at&t puts on them that causes the updates (for at&t phones) to be delayed 3-6 months.
Well I've no idea why it doesn't install on mine then as I have a HTC unbranded European Touch Pro with the latest released ROM on it.
Cheers,
Steve.
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Well I've no idea why it doesn't install on mine then as I have a HTC unbranded European Touch Pro with the latest released ROM on it.
Cheers,
Steve.
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I have a HTC unbranded European Touch Pro with the latest released ROM, I have the same problem.
alonroz said:
Installed fine on my device.
The delay before the ringing starts seems to have grown shorter, but not by much.
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try an app called diamond tweak. i think it has a setting to force the phone to ring as soon as call comes in
xternal said:
try an app called diamond tweak. i think it has a setting to force the phone to ring as soon as call comes in
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Finally!!! Thank you very much for that tip! That problem has been driving me insane since I bought the phone, and finally its fixed =)
dafunk said:
Finally!!! Thank you very much for that tip! That problem has been driving me insane since I bought the phone, and finally its fixed =)
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it doesn't off phone vibration?
I know this has been asked before but im getting frustrated i cant get it to work >.<
I bought the tytn II for the gps mainly and for mine not to work its just annoying,
Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
My GPS does not lock at all no matter if i leave it over night with the power plugged in, when the using gps test program it doesnt lock it always says "GPS Starting UP" the lights near the speaker flash from green and then to the orange and red on either side. So the gps is turning on but it will never lock.
Has anyone got anything, anything at all i can try? Or will i have to wait for HTC to make a fix for it?
If you can help me id be extremly happy =D
Many Thanks,
Kyon
Might want to try "GPS Tuner:" http://www.gpstuner.com/download/index.html. It shows the number of satellites received and strength. COM 4 is also the magic number to set for the phone's GPS to operate.
I usually activate it whenever I think a satellite mapping program like Garmin XT or Google Earth isn't working only to find I got weak signals or too few.
Mack
Awsome ill give it a try and then see what happens and report back =]
Thanks tho,
Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,
All sorts but not the right sort
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Ive tried all sorts of different roms and radios combined and all end up with the same result.
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Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.
You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
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Hmm i tried the gps tuner and got nothing,
It said fix invailid and never picked up any sats or nothing im starting to wonder if my gps in the phone is busted, >.<
Shame if it is i have no idea how to tell if it is broken or not and if its replaceable or repairable v.v
If anyone has any other ideas to try lol =]
Many Thanks,
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You mentioned that you left the GPS on overnigth plugged in??? Any chance you are forgetting it has to be outside with a clear view of the sky to work in most situations? I have found if I accidently turn it on and it cant; find any satilietes in my plac,e then I try to use it outside it takes FOREVER to lock in.... How long are you waiting while outside somewhere with a clear view of hte sky (not inbetween soem buildings or anything like that)
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I have tried outside for over a hour and got nothing >.< I'm at the point thinking it might just be my kaiser and go out and buy another lol but so many people have the same issue i also think it may not be my kaiser. Im just lost on what to try lol.
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Then unless you're in a lead lined room with no windows and in a place on the planet with little GPS coverage, you've not tried the combination in my sig.
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Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]
"So the gps is turning on but it will never lock."
sorry, what u mean "never lock"? ...I try Google Earth mobile ... some time can see detected 6 satellites sometime 2 ... the figure keep up & down .... is that mean "never lock"??
Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.
yeah looks that way, i bought it second hand and i think it may of been dropped and damaged before i bought it
When using GPS test the sateillites show up sometimes they dont have any signal but they show up for a couple seconds then dissapear >.< so i dont know where i stand.
Think ill just buy a brand new one and see where that takes me lol but i wont give up just yet may opent he phone up and see for a lose connection.
Thanks,
P.s Keep the ideas coming guys =] more the merrier X3
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Most likely your Kaiser is defective.
To tsfatt: Him saying the GPS never locks means that if he did what you say the figure would always stay 0.
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oic. .....
Mine works perfectly from the window sill but it's a big window!
Kyon147 said:
Hmm i could try your combination lol could you give me links to the rom and radio please =]
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The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.
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The Radio is built into the RUU (ROM upgrade package) so if you already have a Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM on the device, all you'd need to do is flash hardSPL 1.0 onto the device and then run the official HTC RUU which is avail at the HTC Kaiser ROM section of XDAs wiki near the bottom of the page. If you later want the HTC original SPL 1.93, pm me as I got mine from one of the mods here.
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Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works >.< lol
Thanks for the help =]
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Okay cool ill give it a try and just hope it works
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I suggest that loading the basic GPS software (such as TomTom 6.032 or Google Maps) and testing it is the first thing you do after the post ROM flash hard reset. That way you can be sure that nothing else is interfering with the GPS functionality. If it still doesn't work then as already mentioned there's probably a hardware issue. If you have a compatible HTC GPS antenna, plugging that into the socket near the camera cover, while not necessary, may help. Let us know what happens.
I've got a problem!
As the title say, i've lost the WiFi MAC. Don't ask me how but, after a radio upgrade, MAC was disappeared!
Someone have an idea to solve this problem?
Is there ROM portion where I can put a fake MAC or recover the original?
Tanks for the attention
VKXXV
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The cause of thit issue is the same of MicroP error...
The solution is to open the Diamond and after removing the MB unplug & plug the connectors behind.
But pay attention, is required hardware experience
UP for all
vulkanxxv said:
The cause of thit issue is the same of MicroP error...
The solution is to open the Diamond and after removing the MB unplug & plug the connectors behind.
But pay attention, is required hardware experience
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What is the MB? You can explain better how to do this?
Regards,
Can you take some photos of how to deal with it？
I found this very helpful when I dissambled the Diamond:
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor-htc-touch-diamond/
It is in Russian, but with the pictures included it is quite easy to follow.
Good luck!
Hi
My samsung i5800 blocked and after hard reset i have no longer wi.fi mac address. Now it says 00:00:00....
Can someone help please
Hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570
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Hotfix for resolving difficulties finding or locating a position when using GPS for HTC Touch Pro
http://www.htc.com/europe/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=140&cat=0&dl_id=570
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Nice find bro, thanx, doen't seem to be compatible with 6.5..well, well, I guess M$ is still a bit behind....
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Nice find bro, thanx, doen't seem to be compatible with 6.5..well, well, I guess M$ is still a bit behind....
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I've had no problem with WM6.5 RomeOS, but my friends on pdaclub.pl had some problems too.
It's strange. Maybe it works only for non branded HTC phones? I've got mine from expansys.
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I've had no problem with WM6.5 RomeOS, but my friends on pdaclub.pl had some problems too.
It's strange. Maybe it works only for non branded HTC phones? I've got mine from expansys.
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Hm, running latest NRGZ 6.5 and tells me something about the fix not being compatible with my device. It's pure HTC not branded. Nevermind, after reading setup.xml of this fix seems like what it does is clearing gps data from memory. It installs cleangpsdata. All this does to my knowledge is deleting ephemeris data before re-downloading new ones. You should be able to do the same with HTC GPS tool and dowloading new data with quick gps....If so, let me please have a good laugh at HTC support team ..if this all they have come up to satisfy all of us strugeling with gps from day 1...I have no words
Why don't they hire some of the chefs here at xda to make perfect devices?.....
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Hm, running latest NRGZ 6.5 and tells me something about the fix not being compatible with my device. It's pure HTC not branded. Nevermind, after reading setup.xml of this fix seems like what it does is clearing gps data from memory. It installs cleangpsdata. All this does to my knowledge is deleting ephemeris data before re-downloading new ones. You should be able to do the same with HTC GPS tool and dowloading new data with quick gps....If so, let me please have a good laugh at HTC support team ..if this all they have come up to satisfy all of us strugeling with gps from day 1...I have no words
Why don't they hire some of the chefs here at xda to make perfect devices?.....
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Says it's not compatible with EnergyROM 2.0, WM 6.1
Hmmm... I am using NATF's Rom so I don't have any GPS lock issues my self...
I wonder what this file does though?
U tried it,but it doesn't seems it helps. Still unable to use the GPS. I start to thinking,that the GPS receiver in TP is just a "something more" on the paper for dealers. For GPS I use my Toshiba G710 with SirF3 chipset and it's uncomparable.
This update doesn't give me any inprovements
Have no problem before but after doing some tweak found on http://blog.mohdimran.com/2008/11/htc-touch-pro-gps-problem-tweaking.html the problem appear. I then re-flash it with NRG energy rom 2.0 41609. The problem disappear. I guess what didn't break don't fix it for my case.
Most, if not all of the newer roms have the aGPS feature fully working, which works to eliminate the problem of not getting a GPS fix.....i e the RRE roms