Summiter, I reflashed for the 4th time and am still having the problem so here goes:
I flashed using the newest rom thatyou listed in your other post.
Rom Version: 2.17.7.2 WWE
Rom Date: 2/10/06
Radio Version: 02.07.10
Protocol Version: 413.1.03
Programs installed:
Splashdata SplashBlog for PocketPC
My Company PPCDJ
TranCreative Magic Button
Agilemobile.com Agile Messanger
Resco Registry Add-in
Resco FTP Add-in
Resco Explorer 2003
Zoki A2DP
FdcSoft PPCContactsMgr
ammar Wireless Today Plugin
Smartskey
This is what happens:
When my phone comes back from standby or even at random times, but specifically standby, If i press the mail button, the title bar appears along with the softkeys changing as if it opened up the messaging application. However the background is still the today screen or whatever was under it. If i exit out of it through magic button or smartskey it goes away then i can hit it again and it comes back.
I have set up cingular ispda and gmail, i havent done any registry hacks. This is far less than what ive run the last few times this has happened.
It's annoying but i can live with it if you tell me i have to. Thanks for your help with all this.
I can almost guarantee it is being caused by one of the programs you have installed. This doesn't sound like a ROM issue.
I can go one step further. I have had this occur on every ROM I have used. If memory serves it was the most infrequent on the imate 2.16 ROM. From your list we only have the 2.17 ExtROM and Resco in common, but I don't think either of those cause this. Unfortunately, I don't think any ROM flash will eliminate it completely.
actually the software loaded is all different for this reflash. i didnt use any of these the last flash.
i have the same probl;em with my my mail button...the title bar changes and the today screen stays the same...it bothered me at first but i just tap onthe messages tab on the today screen and it takes me to my messages, i dont even notice anymore.
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Uninstall the Ammar Today Screen app and see if that changes things.
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The same thing happens to me. I'm running the latest summiter rom, and I just got the motorola stereo bluetooth headphones and the a2dp works flawlessly and the device is stable, but the mail button gives me title bar and softkeys but I still see Today screen. If I tap the mail line on the screen all is well. I have spb pocket plus, pocket weather, smartskeys, memmaid, quotrek, netfront 3.3 trial.
i removed ammar and it still happens.
Also my calls disconnect after 5 minutes and my ring tone stutters and doesnt vibrate when i get a call in standby.
I have been thinking of upgrading to touch-it rom but before i do i would like to know is it common for the tmo wing to run ultra slow to the poin that only 1 program at a time will only run? its to the point that if i am using pocket ie and get a text message the wing locks up. will upgrading to a new rom help this problem or shoud i go thru tmo first? im familar with flashing these phones so im not afraid to do it i just want to know if its just me with the slowness of the wing or everybody?
I have the following apps installed incase anybody has comments on what else could be slowing my device down.
htc home
wizard retouched dialer
clear temp
weatherpanel
schaps advanced configuration tool
pocketcm 0.15
psShutXP
Thanks in advance.
kree said:
I have been thinking of upgrading to touch-it rom but before i do i would like to know is it common for the tmo wing to run ultra slow to the poin that only 1 program at a time will only run? its to the point that if i am using pocket ie and get a text message the wing locks up. will upgrading to a new rom help this problem or shoud i go thru tmo first? im familar with flashing these phones so im not afraid to do it i just want to know if its just me with the slowness of the wing or everybody?
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The stock ROM isn't very good with memory...
Any of the touch-it ROMs will be a HUGE improvement. (Especially with the Pagepool changes.) You can even build your own version with my kitchen. (EasyBakeOven) It'll also be based on Touch-IT but you'll have to make your own Pagepool changes.
kree said:
I have the following apps installed incase anybody has comments on what else could be slowing my device down.
htc home
wizard retouched dialer
clear temp
weatherpanel
schaps advanced configuration tool
pocketcm 0.15
psShutXP
Thanks in advance.
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None of those things should really slow it down. I have a LOT more junk in mine...
ivanmmj said:
The stock ROM isn't very good with memory...
Any of the touch-it ROMs will be a HUGE improvement. (Especially with the Pagepool changes.) You can even build your own version with my kitchen. (EasyBakeOven) It'll also be based on Touch-IT but you'll have to make your own Pagepool changes.
None of those things should really slow it down. I have a LOT more junk in mine...
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Thank you very much will be flashing soon!
Hi all, i have the Duttys Diamond rom on my Tilt, but the touch is not very good, some times doesn't respond at the first press, or when i press one spot it runs another.
With the original att rom runs just perfect.
i have also a htc wizard and with some diamond rom , and the touch works fine and very accurate.
What can i do to fix or upgrade the touch driver on my tilt?
(I don't have touchflo) But i would like to....
Disable TouchFlo and go to Settings > System > Screen - and realign your screen.
Also use KaiserTweak (I think that one) and adjust the sensitivity of your screen.
I think you lower the threshold to make it more sensitive. At least, that's what threshold should mean.
My tytn2 has the same problems sometime with HyperDragon IIIr most of the time its fine but every now and again i have to press harder than i should or tap the screen 2 or 3 times to make it respond. I have the pressure threshold set to 400 in Advanced config. Maybe its a bug with certain cooked roms.
As for the pressure threshhold, theres a reg key HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/ I think and you should raise that.
another problem could be that atleast in my experience, I have seen this happen when I didn't have the correct SPL and didn't hardreset after flashing a rom.
wow i just disabled touchflow and my screen is super accurate.
hmm... that is a horrible thing to find out.
well. maybe somebody can make a hack to enable touchflow only when using certain apps. Like file explorer, and contact, and IE.
Kuz I have been having a hard time dialing. It touchflo was disabled, it would be much better.
yay adarsh said:
As for the pressure threshhold, theres a reg key HKLM/Drivers/TouchPanel/ I think and you should raise that.
another problem could be that atleast in my experience, I have seen this happen when I didn't have the correct SPL and didn't hardreset after flashing a rom.
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changed it from 400 to 600 and its like flying!
i am running DK FINAL ROM
go to regedit._ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-->HIT THE + --> DRIVER-->TOUCHPANNEL-->400 DEFAULT CHANGE TO 600
jraborg86 said:
changed it from 400 to 600 and its like flying!
i am running DK FINAL ROM
go to regedit._ HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE-->HIT THE + --> DRIVER-->TOUCHPANNEL-->400 DEFAULT CHANGE TO 600
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I think it worked for me, (i dont know how to disable touchflo with Duttys rom).
will update later.
thanks for the help.
Paulo.
Just added Manilla 2d (beautiful), however, there are times where there is a 2-10 second lag to choose programs, options, ect...running on a tilt. Anyone have the same problem or can offer a solution?
You phone doesn't have something like Core2Duo or Extreme to work snappier
Everything lags on a tilt. Screen flip, parsing emails, opening web pages. Blame it on Windows Mobile because I think our phones have plenty of processing power. I've used just about every ROM ever made too.
As far as Manilla 2d, I have it installed and it is randomly laggy. Not to mention if I try and send a text and switch to landscape it goes back to the home screen or if you open the browser it puts white crap on the "browser" tab.
The Kaiser has given me more headache than it solved really. The only thing I have to look forward to is google android (if that even happens).
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Everything lags on a tilt. Screen flip, parsing emails, opening web pages. Blame it on Windows Mobile because I think our phones have plenty of processing power. I've used just about every ROM ever made too.
As far as Manilla 2d, I have it installed and it is randomly laggy. Not to mention if I try and send a text and switch to landscape it goes back to the home screen or if you open the browser it puts white crap on the "browser" tab.
The Kaiser has given me more headache than it solved really. The only thing I have to look forward to is google android (if that even happens).
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are you using a stock ROM?
If you are using a cooked ROM check for what SPL you are using. Search for different versions, and for reasons for upgrading.
I had the same problem with WM6.1 screen touch lags, Touchflo2d lagged by seconds changing tabs, and most everything ran slow. I upgraded to newer SPL and very little lag now. Still once and a while but noting is perfect.
Since you are posting in the rom section I presume you have rom based manilla, I had the same problem as you.
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Im using 3.56 and it sill freezes quite often for 5+ seconds, and its not only email tab its lots of things even when im looking in setting and programs interestingly enough it doesn't happen in other applications like pocketplayer, FunContact. I hard reset after install, formatted micro sd card but it froze up before I put it anyway. Im using 25th.
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Flashed to Hard SPL 3.29 im on att tilt kais 100 (if it helps anyone) and now its runs very smooth its like a different rom. sakajati you are going to heaven for this one.
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Depending on which hardspl you have installed you should try a different one if you have 3.29 try 3.56 and vice versa. Download them from here ( dont use force USB) http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396922
MAKE SURE TO FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS EXACTLY
if that fails, download the newest rom and start from scratch and use PIM backup so you dont loose any of your info. Dont use sktools to back up messaging when you restore it it wont let you use it. If you start from scratch use the latest jump spl from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=354061
Dude, i don't know what your smoking but manilla 2d works like a dream on my tilt. just remember to soft reset like every day or so.
Currently using AthineOS v1.6.4b[Beta] ROM with SPL 3.29...LOL on the smoking comment...that would have been good if soft resetting every day wasn't so ridiculous...
telegraph0000 said:
Just added Manilla 2d (beautiful), however, there are times where there is a 2-10 second lag to choose programs, options, ect...running on a tilt. Anyone have the same problem or can offer a solution?
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Most of the lagging is attributed to Manila2D files placed on \Windows directory. You need to:
- move Manila2D images to a different directory other than \Windows
- change the settings (in HTCHomeSettings.xml located in \Windows) to point the images to the directory where you've put the images.
Check out this thread on editing the xml: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=427531
Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
I know when I started looking into all this it just seemed like such a daunting task. There was so much information I just didn't know where to start. I looked and looked for a guide that would explain it all to me in one go but just couldn't find one. I had to read around for days trying to get all the information and tools needed to do it, then I had to experiment with lots of failures and swearing before I got the technique right.
It was only when a friend asked if I'd help him flash his M700 that I started to write a pretty detailed email for him. I then decided I'd post it here for you guys who are struggling because I know a few days ago I would have killed for something like this.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
Go to http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293957 and download HTC_Trinity_SIM_CID_Unlock_v1.zip
You just have to plug the phone in so it connects and run the Auto_unlock_v1.bat and follow the prompts.
It'll put your phone into bootloader (the tri colour screen) then flash it with a new radio. It's a really early version of the radio (1.16...) but it doesn't matter cos we'll upgrade that later.
It'll turn itself off when it's done so you need to turn it back on but leave it plugged in.
Keep following the prompts and eventually, it'll ask you on the phone screen if you want to unlock it. Say yes to both.
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. This is the bit that took me ages cos finding the right one isn't too easy. I tried a couple but they wouldn't flash the radio then I heard about Olipro 1.20. I could only get hold of the latest version Olipro 1.30 and it took a while to track down an earlier copy. The latest 1.30 version doesn't work when flashing the 1.56 Radio so you need to have the 1.20 version.
Download the Olipro Hard SPL 1.2 from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=20 post #196
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
Again, make sure the phone is plugged in and connected and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe. It'll stick your phone in bootloader and do a little update that won't take long at all.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
WARNING! This will hard reset your phone right back to factory defaults after it's done, You need to ensure you've backed up all your numbers and files etc. You have been warned.
Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
This will take a little bit longer, it took about 5 mins to do the update on mine.
Once it's complete you will need to turn your phone on again. It will first of all display the version of ROM then for a brief moment it will flash the Radio version on the screen, if it says 1.56.70.11 then you've got it right, if not then you'll have to try another HARDSPL tool. Don't worry if you miss it cos you can always check it on the 'Settings | System | Device Information' tab.
4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. There is no 'One ROM to rule them all...' Everyone wants different things from their operating system and you just have to play around until you get one you like. Some people want all the fancy bells and whistles of Manila2D (Touchflo) from 6.1 or the fancy honey cone start menu that comes with 6.5. I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. If you just want to get it upgraded then try this one out to start with, then when you realise how easy it is you can flash away til your hearts content.
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758 You'll struggle to find a faster ROM out there. This is the 27017v2 which is one of the latest releases of WinMo6.5 out htere.
Connect the phone and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the folder. Follow the prompts as usual and after about 5 mins it should have finished.
Turn your phone back on and hey presto! you're up and running with WinMo6.5.
All you have to do is re-sync you phone and all your numbers are back then you're away.
See that wasn't too bad was it. All it took was a few days researching on the XDA forums and endless head scratching when things didn't work. I think most of that time was just because I was unsure exactly what to do and in what order. if I'd just had a guide like this to at least get me through once I'd have found it a lot easier. You should still go away and do the research into any software or ROM/Radio you want to use because the threads contain a lot of useful information.
NEVER post a questions until you've read the whole thread cos chances are it's already been answered.
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
It was made by a Polish guy so there are a couple of things set to Polish. You will have to change the regional settings in 'Settings | System | Regional Settings' back to the country of your origin.
Also the finger keyboard is set to Polish and he hasn't included any other languages. You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
It is quite a bare ROM so for that added little bit of BLING I added the S2U2 screen locking application. It basically gives you that little unlocking slider thingy from the iPhone (spit). Go to somewhere like http://handheld.softpedia.com/get/System-Utilities/Enhancements/S2U2-52386.shtml to download the CAB and install it as normal.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
So that about wraps it up for this guide. I hope some of you total newbies find it a bit less daunting this way and will not be too scared to give other ROMs a try in the future, It's all about what you like and what you want out of your phone at the end of the day.
Please don't forget to donate some money to the chefs (especially Tomme45i) for all thier hard work if you appreciate their product. It doesn't have to be loads even if its only a pound or two. If everyone does it it mounts up. A happy chef is a chef who gets paid and releases lots of fixes/upgrades.
Do I have to take out memory card during this proccess?
Others have said you have to. but I must admit, I forgot at least once when i was flashing a ROM and it didn't seem to make any difference.
Best to take it out I guess as one of the other steps might rely on it not being in there.
Let me know how it goes.
Fantastic!
Only question-do you have P3600 or P3600i?
I have VPA compact GPS (P3600) and it seems to be different ROMs for them?
As far as I know the P3600 is exactly the same as the M700 except it has different casing. I'm currently using a different WinMo6.5 ROM with Manila that was made for a P3600 with no problems.
The P3600i has twice as much RAM memory and does require different ROM's to run.
I did it all that you said and everything is working fine, thanks for great info.
But I dont like installed ROM that you suggested and I want to flash with other one. My question is what I should flash, only ROM or I have to flash radio, olipro...?
The Radio and OliPro are now on your device until you decide to change them and overwrite them with something else. You only need to download a new ROM and install that on your phone as in the last stage of the tutorial.
This ROM by Tomme45i is very quick and very stable but it is quite simple too. Most people want something a bit more flashy. The problem with that is, with our old phones, the more bling you add the slower and more unstable they become.
I have recently put a good ROM on my phone. It is by Narshorn. It has the 23016 build of Windows 6.5 and a nice Manila2D front end (as well as the CHome front end where all the items are stacked top to bottom but I don't like that. I much prefer Manila2D). I think he is about to release a new version of it with some bug fixes in today (09/09/09) so it might be worth waiting for that.
Here is the link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=549146
It's well worth reading the thread to get a feel for the limitations the ROM has, but so far I've found it to be very fast and stable.
Don't forget to donate to Narshorn for all his hard work. You only have to give him a few pounds and it all adds up. He had over 200 people download his last build and only 2 donated.
The best thing to do at this point is to head over to the ROM development thread and just READ READ READ.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=359
Choosing a ROM is a very personal thing. Some will be perfect for someone and horrible for his friend. It just depends what you're looking for.
I only wrote this guide to get people started, the rest of the adventure is up to you to discover.
Good luck
I install tryniti 6.1. OS ultimate edition and for now I am satisfied.
Glad to hear it. Stick a link in to that ROM so others can try it out if they want.
Of course for me, I'd always try and find a 6.5 build because it has lots of finger friendly additions that mean you never have to get your stylus out to press any fiddly little menus.
Congrats ! Very GOOD Guide for new starters !
Hi chimpsinties,
I am reading since three days all the Trinity section here at the forum, each days three hours at least. I could say, this guide is quite actual, complete enough, and pointed very well, for one to start flashing an HTC P3600.
As myself.
Well, I am not a total newbie, I have flashed some months ago another device- FSCT830. But concerning Trinity- I have had no idea about until read here.
The device data up to the moment are:
ROM Version: 1.23.405.2
ROM date: 03/11/07
Radio Version: 1.38.00.11
Protocol Version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM Version: 1.23.405.103
I assume the device is HTC P3600, but not HTC P3600i. Right ?
And before start asking details: is there any difference in your guide for G3 and G4 devices? How to determine what is it?
So I would to ask you some questions regarding the procedure and the availability of all original applications and devices in the new ROMs.
Please find below right inbetween your sentences, but IN CAPITAL LETTERS.
I am eager to test a new ROM !
Thank you in advance for reply.
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Get yourself an xda-developers account so you can ask questions and become part of the community.
Right, we're gonna do the following:
1. Unlock the phone so you can use any SIM and any ROM even though it's locked to orange.
2. Upgrade the HARD SPL to OliPro 1.20
3. Upgrade the Radio version to 1.56.70.11
4. Upgrade the ROM to WinMo 6.5
5. Install a couple of little extras
First off make sure you have the latest ActiveSync 4.5 installed.
1. OK, first lets unlock it:
SO, I HAVE THE DEVICE IN FRONT OF ME AND IT HAS BEEN NEVER LOCKED. I CAN USE ANY SIM CARD WITH. DOES THIS MEANS I CAN MISS THIS POINT ?
Go to..........................
There we go, now you have an unlocked phone. But the old radio has probably made it so your satnav won't work.
IF I STAY WITH THE CURRENT RADIO ROM- SHOULD I FLASH SUCCESSFULLY THE DEVICE WITH A WM6.1 ROM? (e.g. Tomme45i or other reccomended)
2. Next let's get a new Hard SLP on there so you can flash other ROMs and Radios. ..............................................
This is basically just another bit of software that will replace the SPL on your phone so you can flash Radio's and ROMs at your leisure.
I PLAN TO MAKE AN SSPL FROM HERE: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=293632&page=7 . IN THIS CASE I SHOULD MISS THE HARD SPL, RIGHT? ESPECIALLY WITH TEH DEVICE'S ACTUAL FW. CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG.
3. Now we're ready to flash the Radio. This is basically the drivers and settings of the phone that are there regardless of the actual version of windows you have. So once you flashed this radio (which is the most up to date) you can stick any version of windows mobile on the top and this will still be here at version 1.56.
Download the 1.56.70.11 Radio from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=380093&page=5 post #44
Don't worry that it's all in Chinese. It still does the business on the phone and it's all still in english afterwards. You just have to remember which buttons you clicked on and which boxes you ticked from when you used the ROMUpdateUtility before.
IN CASE I CONSIDER TO UPGRADE THE RADIO ROM, BUT I HAVE MISSED POINT NO.1 HOW SHOULD I GUESS WHICH ARE THE BUTTONS TO CLICK IN ROMUpdeteUtility.exe ? IS THERE ANY GUIDE ABOUT, BUT IN ENGLISH?
...................................................................................Connect your phone again and run the ROMUpdateUtility.exe from the 1.56 radio folder.
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4. Ok now this is the bit where the choice is entirly up to you and you really do have to do what everyone says and experiment. ----------------------- I personally wanted a fast and stable operating system with has lots of free RAM and not too much rubbish that will slow the phone down. Remember our beloved Trinity's are getting a bit long in the tooth these days and even the most modern handsets (eg Touch HD) have trouble with WinMo 6.5 in some of it's forms. I AGREE TOTALLY WITH YOU HERE. I PREFER WM6.1 AS IT IS MORE ADAPTED TO THE HARDWARE OF P3600. BTW, ISN'T TOMME45i'S ROM FOR THE NEXT MODEL (3600i) ONLY? MY DEVICE HAS 128MB RAM, SO I ASSUME IS THE MODEL WITHOUT "i" .
Download Tomme45i's brilliant 6.5 ROM from here --------------------------.
AS PER THE METHOD OF FLASHING: YOU RECCOMEND THE ACTIVESYNC ONE.
BUT I HAVE READ A LOT OF COMPLAINTS SAYING THE DEVICE LOOSE THE CONNECTIONS WITH THE PC DURING IT. THEREFORE I AM THINKING OVER THE SDCARD METHOD OF FLASHING. WHAT IS YOUR OPINION ABOUT IT?
5. Just a couple of pointers about the ROM.
I also hate IE6 on these tiny screens. For a much better browsing experience I recommend Opera from http://www.opera.com/mobile/ You can scroll around the page and double click to zoom in. The tool bars also disappear when your browsing to give you more screen to play with. It works for me, you may not like it.
ISN'T OPERA CONSUMES MORE RAM THAN IE6 ?
AND LAST QUESTION: WITH ALL THE ROMS YOU HAVE TESTED, CAN YOU SAY WHICH OF THE ORIGINAL APPS AND FUNCTIONS ON THE DEVICE ARE NOT WORKING DEFINITELY WITH MOST OF THEM? E.G. WHAT WE HAVE TO SACRIFICE MAKING A NEW ROM FLASH?
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
To start with, it's very important to know if you have a P3600 or P3600i. The P3600 has 64MB RAM and 128MB Flash, the P3600i has 128MB RAM and 256MB Flash. The upgrade ROMS are designed to work specifically with each version of the phone.
Tomme45i's ROM I link to in the tutorial is definitely for the P3600 (SPV M700) because I had it on my handset for weeks and it worked perfectly.
I don't know what a G3 or G4 device is? Sorry
Your radio version looks very old. I would get that upgraded to the 1.56.70.11
Regarding unlocking. It is probably worth doing the 1st step anyway. Even though you're phone might be SIM unlocked to use any provider, it might still be CID locked, which means it can only use the stock ROM that came with the device. You might need to CID unlock it to allow you to change your ROM.
That way, if you do the first step, you will get used to the ROM Update Utility screens and it won't matter that they are in Chinese for the 3rd step.
I would recommend OliPro's v1.20 of HardSPL. It is virtually impossible to brick you're phone using this and you will really struggle to get the 1.56.70.11 Radio on there if you use anything else. It's the only one I found that would allow me to upgrade the Radio.
As mentioned above, I've tried lots of combinations of software and the steps in the guide were the best way to get it all to work perfectly for me.
Windows Mobile 6.5 is much better for finger friendly use. Windows 6.1 still uses a lot of the old menu styles which you usually need a stylus for. I hate Windows Mobile 6.1 now and would always look for a 6.5 ROM. When I say that these devices are not made for 6.5, I only refer to all the extra really fancy bits of the software like TouchFlo3D, CHome etc etc
Some of the 6.5 ROMs are very fast and very clean (no extra fancy bits) especially Tomme45i's. I would strongly recommend you go for a 6.5 ROM and not a 6.1. Even the 6.5 by Nashorn I recommend in a later post is very fast and looks great with the Manila2D. I use it now instead of the more plain Tomme45i ROM. You also get the gestures support so you can sweep your finger across the screen to move menus (like the iPhone) which is very cool.
Regarding the technique used to flash the ROM, I can't comment. I've never used the SD card technique. I have flashed my phone over 20 times using the USB cable and never had a problem. What could be easier than plugging it in to the PC and double clicking a program.
I like the way with Opera you can scroll around a bigger page by dragging you finger and zoom by double clicking, however I found that Opera does not support online streaming video. I now use IE8 which is included in the Nashorn ROM. It's very nice. You can even choose to browse as a desktop device (so you get all the pages rendered normally) or a mobile device ( so you get the reduced size pages) which is a very nice feature. As you experiment with the software, you find what you like and what you don't like. It's all personal choice, what is good for me won't be good for everyone. It's just a guide after all
Of all the ROMs I've tested I've never found any of the basic things that come with Windows Mobile missing. They all usually have Office, Windows messenger, Media player etc etc. I've never found myself having to sacrifice anything to run a new ROM, you usually just find extra things you didn't know you needed
I would say, a finger keyboard is very important, the combination of a 6.5 ROM and finger keyboard means you never have to get your stylus out any more. Both the ROM's I recommend come with a Finger Keyboard included.
It's just a case of finding Cabs for the things you want extra, S2U2, GAlarm, TomTom etc.
I hope I've been able to answer all your questions. Most of what you're asking is just a question of what you like. This is why they always say, 'Just try things until you find what you like'. I wrote this guide so that people who didn't really know what they were doing could get a feel for it and then experiment on their own.
Best of luck, and don't forget to donate to a chef if you like his cooking. That way they will continue to cook for us on this old hardware.
Nice thread - very informative. When I think of the fun and games I had when I first found XDA Developers and downloaded what I needed to unlock my Orange SPV M700 (had several screens open and several downloads on the go)
I have the Narshorn WM6.5 build with Manilla 2D and it has given my phone a whole new lease of life (I was getting bored of WM6 and was looking to buy a new WM6.5 device)
Stuck in Tri-Color screen
Hi,
Thanks for composing all the steps here in an easy to follow manner.
My phone is in super CID mode.
I'm running Vista ultimate.
Whenever I try any of the steps you've specified, they phone goes to the boot loader and remains in tri-color mode. The connection with vista mobile device center is cut off, but the phone itself is not stuck. If you disconnect the USB it says "serial" and if you connect it, it goes back to "usb".
Nothing more happens.
I tried SD flashing as well (renamed the file as specified), but it doesn't do anything. I can start the boot loader, but it doesn't do anything.
I've searched the forums for the error 260, but found nothing useful for flashing with vista.
I also tried unchecking the "allow USB connections" in the mobile device center, but then the device just doesn't connect.
What step am I missing?
Thanks.
Hmmmm
Unfortunately I don't use Vista so I haven't researched any problems associated with it. I know people suggest downgrading the USB drivers or if possible using an XP machine to do the flashing. There is no reason why the SD card technique shouldn't work although I haven't tried it myself.
It might be worth posting on the main board with your problems. I wrote this guide with nothing more than my own experiences in mind and unfortunately haven't had a vast amount of experience at this myself. Maybe I was just lucky to have got it right first time.
Sorry I couldn't be of more help and I hope you get it sorted soon. It's well worth persisting because getting WM6.5 on the old Trinity will transform it and give your years (or at least months) more life out of it. Unitl you get bored and want more power to play with all the cool new features like Touchflo 3D etc
Thanks
Thanks anyway. I'll start my quest for an XP machine.
Great ! It works !
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Wow, that's a big post. I'll try and answer it all as best I can.
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Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
AxxlPPC said:
and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
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The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
As I said in the first post:
Chimpsinties said:
You'll have to go here http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...=545758&page=3 to post #30. Download the skin set and copy it to your Windows\Skins folder on your device. This will allow you to select other languages for the keyboard.
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This means you will have access to all the other languages for the finger keyboard. The FingerKeyboard is actually cooked into the ROM, but is missing the extra languages to save on space. You need to add the ones you want separately.
AxxlPPC said:
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
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Don't you have to enable the video calling in advanced options? or maybe download a small fix .cab file that will enable it? I can't remember right now. I've only ever used video calling once and that was just to see what it was like.
I'm glad yo got it to work anyway
Now you can try other ROMs and see which one you like most. I'm still loving nashorns rom with Manila2D but I think he's been having problems with it recently.
It can be tempting to stick with one ROM just because you have got it working. Soon you'll be so good at reflashing it'll only take you about an hour to do it and get all your programs and settings back exactly how they were.
How?
AxxlPPC said:
Great ! It works !
I decided to follow exactly all your advices. And now I have a pretty good WM6.5 on this HTC 3600.
I am missing now the Video call and the (other than English) finger keyboard.
I think you have mentioned as finger keyboard, the one that appears when you are trying the write somewhere in the programs. You have not had in mind a special program, right ?
A per video cal- I have followed the developer's advice at: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=545758&page=3 (post 21), but when I press the green key, still no 'video call' button. Am I missing something ?
I can also report the following navi progs are working just with clicking on the respective .exe on the memory card available with the old, original WM5.0:
Garmin XT5.020, TT7.915, MN7.4.3; iGo8.32, Navitel 3.2.6.
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Question, did you do this in Vista?
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orenroot said:
Question, did you do this in Vista?
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No, on an XP netbook (LenovoS10e).
there were several reports in the thread Vista has to be updated with some drivers before being capable to do the flash on Trinity.
I want to correct myself in a point:
MN7.43 starts, but crashes under WM6.5 I am still trying to find a workaround about that.
I've made all the changes to my Orange Spv M700 according to Your great guide!
It looks great!
Can anyone tell me which IGO8 runs on this ROM?
How can I change the default ringtone please? It gives me three choices without being able to browse to other ringtones....
I've got about 600 contacts I don't want to change them one by one....
Thank You!