Hi all,
I just got my wing, I use the USPL method flashed serveral roms and in the process of finding the best rom that fit me. I wanted to try the Touch-IT, but this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358332
said that we need to have hard SPL before updating. I tried to read as many as I can, but I still don't understand when we HAVE to use hard SPL and when we just can USPL? what is the requirements or factors that determine them? Thanks in advance. In my understanding so far, USPL will not brick the phone while Hard SPL may brick the phone. Am I right? this is the reason I try to stick with USPL.
with USPL, you can't recover your phone if you do not have an RUU for it if you mess up a flash (actually you can, but its a bit complicated)
HardSPL is a more permanent (still removable) cid-unlock. If your device is HardSPL'd and you mess up a flash and your device does not have an RUU, you can always flash it again.
or something like that. Truth be told, sometimes its just nice to have choice, even if our HardSPL is technically stolen from olipro
fzzyrn said:
with USPL, you can't recover your phone if you do not have an RUU for it if you mess up a flash (actually you can, but its a bit complicated)
HardSPL is a more permanent (still removable) cid-unlock. If your device is HardSPL'd and you mess up a flash and your device does not have an RUU, you can always flash it again.
or something like that. Truth be told, sometimes its just nice to have choice, even if our HardSPL is technically stolen from olipro
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Thank you for your explaination. What i am looking for is when do I know that i can do USPL and when I MUST do Hard SPL. Because when I download a rom, some says I MUST have Hard SPL to make it to work while some does not say anything, just the zip file with the .nbh inside. By the way, when you say having a RUU for the device, do you mean the official one we can download from t-mobile.com? Again thank for your help. I am still try to learn as much as I can.
Best regards
Obviously, you have a wing, so yes there is an RUU. And it IS the one from tmobile.com. I get mine from the xda-devs ftp, but it's the same thing.
I see no reason why HardSPL would be absolutely required, and because you have the RUU, i see no harm in trying to flash using USPL. Try it, tell us what happens.
And before you may or may not ask, Olipro says that canonyang took his HardSPL after saying it did not work, renamed it, and posted it as his own work. Evidently, canonyang was caught because it was date stamped. Evidently.
fzzyrn said:
Obviously, you have a wing, so yes there is an RUU. And it IS the one from tmobile.com. I get mine from the xda-devs ftp, but it's the same thing.
I see no reason why HardSPL would be absolutely required, and because you have the RUU, i see no harm in trying to flash using USPL. Try it, tell us what happens.
And before you may or may not ask, Olipro says that canonyang took his HardSPL after saying it did not work, renamed it, and posted it as his own work. Evidently, canonyang was caught because it was date stamped. Evidently.
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Excellent explaination. It much much clear for me now. I tried almost all the famous rom such as the Open Touch, the TouchIT, ... but I like ASarg's the most. I am tempted to tried the Just2Clean, but it said it need to be flash using the SD card, which I don't have one right now. Agian, thank you
There may be a different question going on here?
fzzyrn said:
I see no reason why HardSPL would be absolutely required, and because you have the RUU, i see no harm in trying to flash using USPL. Try it, tell us what happens.
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There is a different but allied question going on here? aSerg's ROM says that you cant flash his ROM unless you have an ipl.spl of at least 4. Perhaps it may be worthwhile explaining how you judge which boot loader one has, what it's relevance is, if ANY Wings have a lower boot loader and if so, how you upgrade the boot loader?
By the way, his hitherto extraordinarily successful thread has just petered out: Is everyone waiting for the new ROM (references to "family problems" etc) or is it being moved to the WM6 area with a new thread?
ALL wings (as in Tmobile branded) have IPLs and SPLs of more than 4.
to check, soft reset while holding down the camera key. After that it gets self explanatory.
Yes, not all Heralds are Wings but I wonder if they do all have the same hardware?
fzzyrn said:
ALL wings (as in Tmobile branded) have IPLs and SPLs of more than 4.
to check, soft reset while holding down the camera key. After that it gets self explanatory.
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Thank you for clarifying that for everyone's benefit as there was some confusion on this: As I implied in my post, I suspected that all Wings had this but notice that if he is still around, aSerg is in Russia and I dont know if T-Mob operates there. So we cant know if all Heralds have this and nowhere is it explained that all Heralds have the same hardware.
While we are on this subject, do you know if there is any problem using VoIP with the Wing? None of the Wing ROMs seem to include it, aSerg had it in his original ROM but took it out even though there were no reported problems with it and there is reference around to T-Mob wanting to limit it's use to their own system. Why is everyone cooperating with them by not including it in ROMs? I wonder if this is anything to do with hardware issues with differences between versions of the Herald? No one seems to have posted cab files for it for the Wing, though interestingly cye3212 says at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=400642&highlight=VoIP&page=85 that hers constantly invokes and wont turn off!! (her problem must be something to do with the WHENEVER AVAILABLE setting?)
the herald and the wing (really just the HTC atlas, which is really a herald with the round keys in the front) have exactly the same hardware, keyboard excepted (region dependant)
now. VoIP. I've never used voip, but i would guess that it was taken out because it was a) against the TOS of a majority of carriers or b) not too good because we can only manage EDGE data.
and by the way, i forgot to mention. ROM development for the Herald seems to have stalled. Why? Itje has a polaris, ttran has a wife (itje does too, i think), ivan has school, papamopps has a job.
somebody needs to be our savior and pop-out a wm6.1 smartphone rom for the herald.
fzzyrn said:
and by the way, i forgot to mention. ROM development for the Herald seems to have stalled. Why? Itje has a polaris, ttran has a wife (itje does too, i think), ivan has school, papamopps has a job.
somebody needs to be our savior and pop-out a wm6.1 smartphone rom for the herald.
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My internship will be ended next week. I am planning to start to cook my own rom (since I don't have a wife ...yet or a polaris ..., but I love my wing). I looked over Ivan's cooking class, but it doesn't seem to be completed yet. Do you guys know any good cooking tutorials or references? Thanks
Most development seems to be for the Wizard
live4nothing said:
My internship will be ended next week. I am planning to start to cook my own rom (since I don't have a wife ...yet or a polaris ..., but I love my wing). I looked over Ivan's cooking class, but it doesn't seem to be completed yet. Do you guys know any good cooking tutorials or references? Thanks
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The best place to start looking is by mozying over to the Wizard forums where there are cooking classes and sample kitchens etc etc etc. A lot of these devices are very similar and a lot of what applies to one will apply to the others. That is why I cant understand what is meant by putting out differing .cab files for different processors and letting users try to figure out what OMAP is an ARM etc.. But I digress!
BTW i cant see how installing VoIP can conceivably be a violation of any TOS or why anyone who has unlocked their device should care about this. For that matter, I have a few spare devices around and wanted to use them as SIPs without SIM cards in them. Not sure where TOSs come into that equation? But when cooks take them out of their ROMs, no one seems to complain and I have often asked questions about use of VoIP with various HTC phones and no one (not even Schap) ever seems to know the answer. Besides, the main cab file for them seems to be a Microsoft file!
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i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
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hey, thanx for takin a look. im new to posting and this site and forums in general. i dont know what im about to ask if its Ok or not. if its not, i know im going to get scolded for it, but plz just let me know how to go about it for future ref. im probably going to be asking questions that can be found throughout the site f i just looked. i looked and looked for hours on end, for a few days now, reading posts and looking for answers/ideas. in most of the posts i got confused and overwhelmed by the differentiating opinions/advice/ideas/ and results from various members on a cartain topic or post. i dont even know what is okay to do not to do, use or not use, how to or how not to do anything anymore. i just got a cingular 8125. though i am not new to windows mobile cuz ive been a heavy user or mpx200 then the mpx220 and great on a regular windows os, i didnt want to take any chances with the 8125. i dont want to install something or mess up or miss a process of installing a file or program and my 8125 is gone just as quick as i got it ot anything.one of my purposes is to leave my laptop at home when i travel or just goin round. though i am a college student, not a business man, im big on having convienience when i need it for work, or for personal use. im really looking for help on how to, what to, and suggestions. any help that could be given would be greatly appreciated, i hoped this site had a tutorial sections but unfortunately it doesnt unless i didnt look hard enough. thanx again to everyone for reading adn helping if they do. Thank you. I have a cingular 8125 that is carrier unlocked.
Lookin for help with:
what is the best rom to upgrade to and exactly how do it.
-what does upgrading the rom do for the wizard?
- what needs to be done to Wizard before upgrading.
hot to cid unlock the Wizard.
neccessary programs/software for the Wizard
where to find the programs
suggested programs/software for the Wizard.
where to find programs
What are some considered neccessary tweaks for the Wizard.
What do they do. ex-Wi-fi
what to do/ what never to do with Wizard
- ex. never let batter completely die
how to fully customize os
what programs or skins/themes to use.
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Welcome, friend.
First, I have to admit that I have ADD, and couldn't summon the attention to read your entire post.
I do however think that what you are looking for you can find by browsing and searching these, as well as the Cingular HoFo forums.
When you say your 8125 is "carrier unlocked", do you mean SIM unlocked? If so, that's just swell, but won't allow you to install any ROMs that didn't come from Cingular. You need to CID unlock to install custom ROMs. (Tip: search for "CID unlock")
Start by reading through several pages in the plain 'ol "Wizard" forum (the forum you're in now is the Wizard upgrading forum) - you'll find lots of useability discussions in there. HoFo is good for that as well.
In the future, if you find features of some of the custom ROMs desireable, you'll need to have your device CID unlocked, and you'll have to run a program on your PC that flashes your device. When you get to that point, post a message and I or any of the other fine folks around here will help you. Be sure that you've done all the reading you can stand first though.
Here's a basic primer on some of the terms you'll see around here:
CID lock: carrier ID lock - restricts device to ROMs from originating carrier
SIM lock: locks a device to the originating carrier's SIM cards
Extended ROM: a portion of storage on a device used to store customization files
radio ROM: the code on the device that interfaces with the xmit/recv hardware
AKU: Adaptation Kit Update - essentially a service pack for Windows Mobile. These can add fixes and/or features. AKU 2.0 and above includes Direct Push
Direct Push: push mail/calendar/contacts - like Blackberry. Used with Exchange server SP2, this will push new items to your device as they arrive or are changed.
Sleep: what I should be doingzzzzz
If you're new to the Wizard and trying to pick a ROM to try, I'd suggest one of the following based on your carrier:
T-Mobile US - Download one of Xelencin's ROMs
Cingular - You want one of Summiter's creations
If you are overseas and use a different carrier, or just want a barebones ROM to customize the way you see fit, grab Mr. Clean.
Since you say you've got an 8125, I'm guessing that you're on Cingular in the US. In that case, stick with Summiter's latest as it will be a plug-and-play solution for you.
Ultimate Wizard setup
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
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goodbyte said:
Hi There
WOW my first post on this forum. I guess there always has to be a first.
I bought my Wizard recently and the first thing I did was look at the following post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=53784&highlight=edge
It contains a large amount of really cool info on setup of your wizard. I didn't follow it exactly as some things may be out of date, for example the ROM image he says is the latest is 1.6 I think but I downloaded 2.x from the Imate website (mine is an Imate device bought in South Africa)
Anyway, I hope the above post helps you, it certainly did me.
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A post worthy of a sticky if I have EVER seen one!!!!
Dear developers..
Is there a possibility that I can downgrade my radio firmware from 1.54.30.10 to let's say 1.54.01.00 or whatsoever?
I tried dozens of methods but non worked, spend 10+ hours on this forum.. none worked.
My specs:
Treo 750 unlocked
Windows Mobile 6 (previously 6.1 normal version)
Radio: 1.54.30.10 (Hermes one)
IPL 0.20
SPL 1.40
Netherlands / T-Mobile
And is it possible to rollback to the official Palm Bootloader? In case I have to send it in for repair.
Many many thanks in advance
Bump Im Stuck With This ****ty Radio!!help!!!tried Everything!!
I guess nobody knows (so far) how to downgrade from Hermes radio. I guess the only way is to directly flash via JTAG - if you can find the right pins in your Treo. I.e. something like the one discussed for Hermes in http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=391047
There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
tmknight said:
There are a couple of threads going on about this now and some people have reported success, but I am a little skeptical (sorry mates) they were actually at this firmware level as I have yet to successfully downgrade my radio...spent hours flashing, reflashing various OS ROMs, radio ROMs, even made my own radio ROM extracted from ATT 2.25 update, via various bootloaders, SPL, and on and on. So I have given up and hope the official WM 6.1 update rumors come true and it contains a refresh radio and can actually over-write.
Having said this, I am pretty stable using 1.54.30.10 alongside the normal/generic WM 6.1 ROM
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What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.
Merlyn_3D said:
What exactly is wrong with this radio? I like it better than the ATT WM6 one simply b/c I've had less issues and the earpiece is MUCH louder.
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with ATT here in NYC, i had issues with 1.54.30.10-- it would drop the signal and a reboot would be needed to get it back. or if you went underground, and came back up, it would not grab a signal for a few minutes, i would have to turn the radio off then back on to get reception.
the problem went away with 1.54.07.00
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NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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couple of questions:
bi differance from your old radio to the new one? where are you located on the at&t network?
if much better, can you give me a detailed step by step, with the right links?
thank you
NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00. i had to use the palm recovery tool that was extracted from Treo750_2_27_ROW_EN_DesktopUpdater.
there's a thread on it, but basically, ran the recovery tool, then flashed the 2.27 ROW EN update, then updated it with a radio-less 6.1 ROM. after the ROW update, the radio version was 1.54.07.00, which worked much better with ATT
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That's crap! 2.27 ROW Radio version is 1.54.01.00
NYITGUY said:
i was able to downgrade my unlocked and hardspl'ed 750 from 1.54.30.10 to 1.54.07.00...
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Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!
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Not wanting or trying to get into a fray, but rather really trying to understand how you have succeeded where we have failed. I have tried your method to no avail. As I stated here and elsewhere I've tried throwing everything at this firmware/radio short of the kitchen sink. The reason this radio cannot be downgraded, as I understand it, is due to a "password" type issue. The available down-level firmware and the methods for accessing the firmware do not allow for the 1.54.30.10 firmware to be overwritten. I truly question the validity of the claim, not that I think you a liar, but rather that you actually had 1.54.30.10 firmware installed or that you have successfully overwritten. How are you determining that you had 1.54.30.10 installed? How are you determining that you have overwritten with a down-level firmware?
I doubt you will do this, and you certainly owe us nothing, but as a service to your XDA compatriots, how about you re-install 1.54.30.10 show us that you have it installed, then overwrite it. Screen shots would be lovely.
Again, this may come off as having attitude, but that is not intended. This is purely an academic challenge to help the rest of us understand how you have succeeded where the rest of us continue to fail.
Thanks in advance, cheers!
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i had flashed the different radio version via sd card. i actually bought a new treo when i realized i couldnt get it to revert down to an older version, and 1.54.30.10 was horrible with ATT in NYC. i would get on an elevator and lose service and have to cycle the radio to get service again
i wanted to sell the one of the treo 750s, but didnt want to stick the buyer with the crappy radio version. i tried the method someone else posted up and it worked, i was actually very surprised.
its sold and gone, working happily on att with the rom version i posted above.
the only thing i had done before the ill fated flash was to hard spl the device and sim unlock it.
i have no reason to make it up, i can assure you i was stuck on 1.54.30.10, as i went out and bought a new treo 750 to replace it when i couldnt get the radio flashed down. it was stuck as i had tried to reflash the radio SEVERAL times, both using the hermes flasher and the sd card method. it sat on my desk for a few months gathering dust.
i dont have a stake in this, as i actually dont even use the treo i have left anymore-- the second one that i never flashed to 1.54.30.10. i'm now using a kaiser.
all i can say is, i didnt think to take screenshots because why the heck would i make this up? the radio was stuck at 1.54.30.10. i simply followed another members instructions for the hell of it (i was about to rip it apart for spare parts) and lo and behold, the radio dropped to 1.54.07.00. sold it. done.
i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
was your device hard-spl'ed before you flashed the 1.54.30.10 rom?
Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.
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Also a no-go here with the URT. Tried MTTY. Even tried BRICKING the darned thing with MTTY, corrupting the OS and radio, and no luck, reflashes but the damned evil radio remains intact. Gone as far as flashing a kaiser radio then reflashing a cheetah radio...no luck. Anyone? Imma shoot this thing lol.
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same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
anyone?
Not even sure if there is a newer hermes radio out?
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i wouldn't have bothered to waste the time to post my success if i had known i would have people calling me a liar. seriously? for what? bragging rights that i fixed my own screwup?
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It's amazing that you still cop to this when I SPECIFICALLY stated that was not what I was getting at...why do people WANT to feel as though they're being kicked?
Anyway...
From the relevant bits of your response, I have to believe your "success" in downgrade to lower version firmware was rooted in the fact that the firmware upgrade to 1.54.30.10 actually did not succeed. Sorry mate, this one's a dead end.
Still waiting for someone familiar with the firmware coding to step-up and help us out of this jam...Bueller?
ericizzy1 said:
same situation.
maybe we should upgrade to a newer radio rom? something that works better with at&t?
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That's my hope too, maybe the new WM6.1 ROM that we're promised will have a newer radio that can overwrite this one.
A little input
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?
I'm stuck with it!
summiter said:
My understanding of this problem is that the persistently present problem radio version in question has a bootloader that requires a main bootloader (SPL) which can do a sort of authentication handshake.
Essentially the radio bootloader says "hey, SPL, here's some numbers...what's your reply? And if I like your answer I'll allow new radio code to be flashed. If I don't like your answer or I don't get one, take a hike jackass". The Treo SPL can't respond to the radio as needed.
To my knowledge an SPL with this capability has never been released for the cheetah. Ages ago when this was a topic of interest, I was told that someone may be able to port a hermes bootloader over to the cheetah that runs and can at least allow for reverting the radio. The hermes and cheetah are very very similar, with most of the differences being in address locations and so forth and whatnot and what have you.
There's only a handful of folks 'round here who could port a hermes SPL, but unfortunately they don't have Treos and are thus likely not all that motivated. Donations may perk their ears, but the developer not having a device for live testing can be painful for all involved. I used my device as the test subject for Oli while he dev'd the unlocker and it took a lot of IMing code back and forth and describing test results to him. I'm surprised he had the patience really. I've been stuck with that locked hermes radio ever since and it's been bearable, but HSDPA throughput is not good.
The Palm support tool would not be able to overcome this particular issue.
Is there a large number of folks with stuck radios?
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Hi Summiter
Yes, I think there are a relatively large number of people stuck with it, judging by the threads I've been following in the hope that someone finds a solution. Whether it's enough people to motivate Oli or one of the other gurus is not certain though.
My device has better BT connectivity and louder speaker volume, but dumps most of my calls whenever the signal goes below 2 bars. Very upsetting for me and frustrating those at the other end.
It'd be great to get out of this jam - serves me right for playing with 'cooked' ROMs and such - but I love what these people do on XDA-Dev, and can't help but wanting to join the party.
Anyway, for this problem I'm almost resigned to junking the 750, and getting another device - maybe an HP 914c or a Treo 850 when they come out. I love my 750, but it's getting to be a real issue for me.
From posts here and other sites there appears to be a large number of 1.54.30.10 radios on Treo's. Though there appears to be a divide in those that feel it works fine vs those who know it does have issues. With that however, I feel the new devices on the horizon will soon make this discussion moot.
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I've had a really bad time with 1.54.30.10. Lots of dropped calls, crashed radio etc.
So many times I had to turn radio off then on to make a call.
GPRS would sometimes show connected but not transfer any data and it would need to be disconnected then reconnected.
Also, battery life was worse than before (I didn't think that was possible, Treo is so bad already).
I don't have time to try all the options listed above for returning to an older Radio so instead I'm trying the new Hermes Radio ROM: 1.56.70.11
I'll give it a couple of days then report back. Other Hermes users are reporting pretty bad battery life with it - but if the radio is more stable I'll stick with it.
If you want to try it yourself, the file name is
HERM_Radinly_1.56.70.11_CustomRUU
It was rock solid (for Windows Mobile, that is) on the 1.54.07 and older Radios.
I'm on Vodafone New Zealand by the way which is a 900/1800Mhz GSM, 2100Mhz 3G HSDPA network. We should be listing network frequencies here -- some Radio ROMs might be better or worse on particular frequencies.
Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. Its on orange, and the details of it are:
ROM Version: 1.81.61.2 WWE
Radio Version: 1.27.14.32
Windows Mobile 6 Proffessional
I find it really boring and am looking for something to spice up the GUI.
I seen software on here called Cube. I was wondering if it actually works, and if there are any implications or lost functions related to installing it.
This is my first post, so i dont really have a clue what it is.
Also my phone is a works phone so it needs to be stable and retain all the Origigal functions.
Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz
There are some versions of the original "cube" as produced by HTC, which can be re-used on various devices for which it wasn't designed.
However, a number of our fellow members have written good or better 3rd party imitations of the cube launcher - try searching for cube and having a look at some of those ones.
IMHO the cube only has limited function, and you can do better with a well configured "Today" screen. There are hundreds of threads on modifying your today screen, and many screenshots for insipiration. Have a look at some of those.
At the end of the day, if you mess up your phone software wise, you can always "hard reset" which will reset to factory conditions, wiping all of your dodgy software off.
V
gaz_0001 said:
Hi,
I have a HTC TyTn 2. ...snip... Can anyone suggest anything??
Thanks
Gaz
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I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill
whk said:
I notice that this is your first post. A friend of mine once said the enemy of "good" is "better".
It is important to remember that you are about to consider messing with an expensive "phone". It is possible to make it (read the MANY threads here) work less like a phone than you might want.
If you did that (messed up) to your phone - how upset would you be...can you be without it for a couple of days while you sort things out?
Make sure that you read the WIKI/STICKYs at the top of the messsage board. It is interesting reading acually. If you have a hard time with them you need to leave your phone alone. If you understand what they are saying, then considering a change to your phone might not be too difficult.
Bill
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Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
Seriously, look at this page, there is nothing on this page that can't be undone. You will learn a lot and your phone will be "kwel "
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_software_recs
denco7 said:
Jeez Bill , I'm afraid to even press a button on my phone now.
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Yeah - I realized that I made it sound scary - but I wanted to convey (since it was specified that this is a work phone and has to maintain the original stuff...) that there was some risk - that reading was required and should be done before jumping off and trying things and then having the phone not available.
But - honestly - if what I said "scares" you - you probably ought not be messing with your "work phone" - don't you think?
Bill
I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help
Then you haven't read the wikis all the way through..
Also if that is a work phone I wouldn't flash any rom on it. (which duttys is a rom)
gaz_0001 said:
I want to add
2008-04-29 Dutty's WM6.1 Hybrid v2 5.2.19716/5.2.19700
to my phone.
My question is do i need to upgrade to WM 6.1 first, or does this do it for me??
Do i need to do a sim unlock first??
Do i need to CID unlock first??
Ive done the reading of the wiki's but im not too sure!
Please help
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Yes you will need to do all of the above, but TBH if you are after retaining all of the orignial functions of the phone then a flashed ROM is about as far away from that as you can be. It adds a lot of extras in removes a lot of bloatware etc. To answer your question yes when you flash a ROM it will auto upgrade you to WM6.1
EDIT: Beat me to the puch there Chumley
mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.
gaz_0001 said:
mmmn.
May be you guys are right, leave the thing alone. Its just so boring though.
It is a works phone. I have to use it to access corporate network internet pages, and to telnet into certain systems. Also they are supposed to be able to track us from them via the GPS inside.
Do you think changing the ROM would be a bit dodgy???
Are there any other options to make it a bit more fancier, the thing is so dull, but Duttys Rom looks cool.
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Again , Look at the page I told you about in the fourth post. Home plugin, HTC Home Customizer, Point UI , Spb Mobile Shell. These are all window dressing and will not effect the function of your phone like a rom switch ( good and bad ) will Look here for inspiration
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336013
if you are just after the "dutty look" then there is no need to flash a whole rom just to achieve that "look". you can just change you theme, install apps, change the skins etc, and you phone will look way cooler, in fact you may even become more attractive to the opposite sex
Cheers,
Just put the Slither C++ Cube thing on. Its sweet.
XtreMe_G - no new women yet... maybe it needs 24 hrs to kick in.... we'll see.
hi guys, I have my precious HTC touch diamond for a week now, and because of its beautifull shine, everyone wants to have one.
That's why i did some searching on the web about anti theft programs, and I found these 3
Ultimate Theft Alert v3
W.I.M.P.
Sprite Terminator
They all look pretty good, but before buying anything (or downloading ) I want to know wich one is best to pick, could you guys help me with that? also keep on mind that the program has to work on a VGA screen
Thanks, Markos Wahid
Tried three of them also and decided to (actually buy) sprite terminator with a coupon disc 50% (forgot where i got it thou), reason to buy:
- support
- price (very cheap!!!)
- easy to use
a program called mobile justice thats free and does the job, if you burn it in to a ROM before you flash the ROM to your device it will resist hardresets as well unlike most programs out there.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/mjustice/
not to mention a steel chain with a steel lock, one end at yr diamond, second one around yr neck
jokes aside, ultimate theft alert is the most popular.
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
I need some advice to burn Ultimate theft alert to a ROM on diamond.
Is this possible?
^probably... check the developer forum..theyd be better at answering that...
i think the guy who makes ultimate theft also posts here...It seems the nicest.. the other alternative is sprite...the middle one doesnt look nice. i dont really know since i never had a wm device. im just saying from what ive read...
I tried to install Theft Alert but the instalation crashes...
Has anyone the same issue?
KukurikU said:
i am sorry to see that the diamond in his actual configuration doesn't support the very slim chance that somebody will find it and be willing to return it, i am talking about OWNER INFORMATION!! gone in the invisible "today" screen
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Settings --> Owner information --> Options --> "When the device is turned on, display: Identification Information"
Sprite terminator requires some additional editing. It says my GPS location is in China somewhere.
Ultimate Theft seems to work alright, but I havent tested it yet with the sims, which I'll do in a few minutes.
I like the ULT 3.5 better.
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
Baronic said:
what i'll like to know is how to burn. the developer section have no guide on actual burning and takes for granted that we're rom cookers so i for one, understand nothing T.T
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I agree. All these softwares are useless as most people would hard reset the device.... As far as cooking goes, I really want to get into doing this - I just need the 'beginner' tutorial, before the 'hardcore' tutorial..
Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Even the SPL must be protected against reflashing of the phone then. Is that possible?
So locking the SPL so no new SPL can be flashed either, and new ROM flashing is impossible then.
There are too many smart people who just fix that 'hot' phone with UTA or any program to original. And the thing you want is you phone back.
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Well I do know that HardSPL has overwrite protection and you cannot flash a new SPL after you've installed it. Although there will be a 'downgrade' package soon so you can get back to stock SPL.
I don't understand why there isn't such a flash and/or hard reset protection...it's just very frustrating when you lose the device(like I did once) knowing the next 'owner' could simply hard reset (or flash a new ROM) to use it as his own device. I know, cooking some settings into a ROM solves a little piece, but more and more people are aware of XDA-dev and know about flashing. So you could cook your anti-theft into your ROM, but agianst flashing there is nothing u can do
Well, I thought, it should be possible to lock SPL flashing, by encrypting the bootloader by (my own) password?
On the moment one makes flashing without my password impossible, a antitheft program can be installed in the ROM and running always, even with hard-reset.
One should vind an easy way of providing MY sim card data into that rom prior to flashing.
Hi Folks,
But back to the topic, is there any anti-theft programs that really works in the first place for Diamond? I had tried Star Enforcer (it can't get the current IMSI number), Mobile Justice (it can't send out SMS) and RemoteTracker (can't run... I need to research more on this..).
Cheers.
mobile justice, did you install the certificate? most problems are as a result of that not being done, give me a PM if you want a hand and ill talk you through it, it does work well, but as already been mentioned all it takes for any software is a full flash, if you install many of the apps to the ROM before flashing it you can at least survive a hard reset.
Thanks Dazza,
I had missed installing the certificate.
But now, after some testing, I found out that it was only able to send out SMS unless I select "Disp.MsgBox".
Is this something expected? May be MJ needs to be re-rewritten or recompiled for WM6.1?
I'm aware of the hard reset issue. Am planning for myself to learn how to cook up a ROM, with my details in, to prevent this.
Cheers.
Tried UTA 3.5. and WIMP
Both can send out Text messages to designated telephone no.
But i thought UTA 3.5 could monitor the sms and phone calls going in or out of the phone. but it didnt seem to work. it crashed. and when you inserted a new sim it kept on asking whether i wanted to run the .exe file not very good.
Am testing out WIMP at the moment and seems to be ok.
but not alot of functionality if compared with UTA that is if UTA worked.
That would be a very good idea if you can input it into the ROM. but will you not have to mess with the registry to 'register' the product and keep your data.?
Well,
When I did a hard-reset last week, I observed that the device begins installing some software onto itself, just like it did when I first powered it up. May be we can cook up something into a cook ROM to do something identical? E.g. the settings required for MJ?
But then, I'm a noob at this stage (with a full time job and family). So, I'll have a very long way to go.
Cheers.
First, this is a great site and I have looked at many threads. But I still need some help.
I got a sd card (4G) and started moving some file to the card like the owners manual said. But I guess I moved something I shouldn't as my phone went crazy. It wouldn't get a service signal and among other things.
So I preformed a HardReset and reset the phone. But that seemed to cause the same problem. So I researched the web awhile and read of an update for moble 6, so i downloaded and flashed my phone. Now the problem is that I can't perform a HardReset.
My ??? are:
What can I do to fix this?
And without getting a cooked ROM, are there any good "cab's" that would improve my phone?
ummmm i dunno of any actual cabs.... But why not a "lite" custom rom? since it sounds like your looking for memory.
I wasn't planning on a Rom, because I read that it voids the warrenty. But after finding out that my warrenty has expired and t-mobile won't do anything. Are there any current Roms that are good. Must have internet sharing.
I currently use OpenTouch Project 7.7 Lite, Its been smooth running with lots of free memory... But it doesnt have Internet sharing...I do believe that a CAB can be downloaded to get that option though.... itll just take me a bit to find a good one... If you want I can look. However...... I KNOW that ITsPapaBlack 6.1v2 has it as I have used it.... But I believe there are some windows vista isues
I think I know where to look to get the cab for internet sharing, but would I have to input the information that t-mobile put on the phone. Or would it be already on it with the cab? As for OpenTouch Project 7.7, where could I find info about it?
Her ya go man.... All OTP 7.7 Roms thats a link to the downloads... as for info TTrans OTP 7.7 Thread. And btw ANY info you need on the mo network is available via their website. you can get step by step walkthroughs on how to setup the network. but the OTP 7.7 has a network setup wizards so it should do it all for ya!
I believe most ROMs have the network wizard built in, so you should be fine. As far as light ROMs go, there's a few (most of my ROMs are lite, too.) If you want ultimate in space and RAM, JustME or Just2Clean might be a good choice. (70MB FREE of storage.) But really your best bet is to try different ones and see which ones you like best. Try a little opentouch, a little itspapa's, a little just's, etc and see what you like best.
Not to hijack a thread but I have tried the OpenTouch ROMs and I notice that the MS Direct Push is no longer available. Is that due to Office 6.1 not being loaded in that ROM?
Lance
Thanx for your input. I think I'll try a few to see how they work and which one fits my needs. Right now I am trying out some .cab's and picking the ones that helps.
Oh, and do any of those ROM's ha Internet Sharing? If not, I take it that I'll have to install a .cab. But if I do that, do I have to input the information so I can use it. This is important as IS is my only internet access. Thanx.
Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.
Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance
Robertsonland said:
Well I had to send my wing back as the OK button was broken so I'm trying to acquire a new one. However I flashed the 7.5 of Open Touch and noticed that it wasn't there...I'll look around for the network wizard as I've been reading all the threads and didn't see anything on that. May I ask what ROM you run? When I get a new one I'll flash that and see what I get.
Thanks
Lance
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I run a modified version of my own Just2Clean. (It was a test built but I haven't had a chance to change it in a while.)
JUst2Clean
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Not sure as I only use my own ROM. I know that my most of my newer ROMs have it and as long as you run the network wizard (which runs automatically on my ROMs) then it will work without any settings having to be inputed. Just read up on the ROM's thread and you'll find out if a particular ROM has it or not.
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Ok, thanx. I do believe I took a quick look at your Just2Clean. So I think I look at it more in-depth.
Yeah I was thinking of looking at the Just2Clean and the JustMe ROM I think. youmanmike, if you load it up let me know what you think of it. I just bought a new wing on Ebay tonight so hopefully when it gets here I'll be able to flash it. I'd like to hear what you think about the ROM you go with.
Lance
Well youman mike.... looks like ya got plenty of info... Ive yet use any of the "Just" ROMS but I DO plan on making my own ROM eventually.... so his cooking class may help me! I start 3rd shift next week Ivan.... I may start you classes then =) Hopefully youll be around to answer my silly questions =P Let us know what ROM you flash and how it goes youmanmike!
ROM??? Looking at Manilla
I still haven't figured out what ROM to use. I kind of got side track on Manilla. I like the way it looks and from what I've read it sounds like it works good also. Now I'm trying to figure out how to use/install it. LOL