Poor bass with third party headphones - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Sound with the HTC supplied headphones is OK, but I've just tried some Goldring gx200's and there was hardly any bass and overall poorer sound
What is the problem?

Are you using the built in Audio player?
Did you enable the 'Audio Booster'?
It is a known problem that this happens. You need to disable the Audio Booster as it has a bug that ruins the bass.
This has been talked about over and over again!

I have seen the audio booster problem mentioned, but I did not find any posts where it mentioned this problem with other headphone makes.
In my case audio booster was off for both headphones

It is a software bug, therefore it affects all headphones, no matter who made them.
If you enabled Audio booster at any point EVER, then it will screw the bass up.
If i remember rightly, you have to turn it on and then off again while the headphones are connected and it should solve it.

I have not used Audio booster at all. If I use the HTC supplied headphones then bass is fine, but if I use the third party ones there is no bass.
I can't see why it would make any difference, unless there is some electronics within the HTC phones to alter the sound/signal

With Radio or Media Player?
PaulusUK said:
I have not used Audio booster at all. If I use the HTC supplied headphones then bass is fine, but if I use the third party ones there is no bass.
I can't see why it would make any difference, unless there is some electronics within the HTC phones to alter the sound/signal
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Are you talking about listening to radio or to the mediaplayer?
Because only the orginial headset and some replacemnets have an radio antenna in the headset cord.

I am using the RC E100 with my own Sony MDR-ELX90P headphones, and even without Audio Booster, I'm getting plenty of bass.
I can't understand why it would be different for you.
How are you actually connecting your 3rd party headphones by the way?

I am using an adapter to convert the mini-usb to standard headphone plug. This adapter is working OK on my Trinity, and the headphones work OK on other devices.
So its a bit odd.
Sound is from mp3's, I'll try the radio later

Are you sure by chance you do not have a fake headphone?
I bought a fake (I did not know that before) Sony Ericsson headphone, and it has no bass...
Philippe

We are using SRS WOW 2.1 (this disables Audiobooster automaticly), to play around with different sound patterns.
Our new Bluetooth headphones must be able dealing with extreme low bass and high trebles untill we got over modulation at high volume.
We also tested competitive headsets from Sony, Motorola and some cheap Chinese copy-cat though they all give a more than average deep bass.
There is somewhere in another thread mentionning about "gradually decreasing bass" each time when another applic is opened (not the specific audio booster bug)
sorry, couldn't fins the thread anymore

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Best earphones for TyTN II - MP3 Playback

Hi All,
I bought HTC Tytn II recently... It's rock.....
But i am very disappointed with the earphone quality of HTC... No Bass at all.... I am not saying mp3 playing quality is bad... I tried my motorola BT stereo headset and it gave me fantastic output with heavy bass..... So the quality of my HTC earphone is bad...
I found several earphones on HTC website.... can you please help me to find out an excellent HTC earphone which can give full Bassy effects.... or any other brand which haves mini usb port...... Dont want converters please.......
Thanks.
pda_crazy said:
Dont want converters please.......
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Why not? You are unlikely to find a decent pair of USB earphones IMHO.
I'd get a small adapter and buy some sure earphones for the best possible sound.
don't mean to hijack the thread but can anybody recommend a good bluetooth stereo headset? i want one that will be good with music and also allow me to make calls.
I am particularly looking for an in ear type earphone or a unit that allows me to use my own ear buds.
I've got the i-Tech Clip Radio (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145553). Works well with the kaiser, got play/pause, next/prev, volume, and call buttons, bulit in FM radio, and allows you to plug your own earphones in as it has a 3.5 jack.
How is this unit for bass?
Also it looks just like the htc S100, did HTC rebrand it?
I listen to alot of dance music, and with Sony's EX-71s it does me fine!
Yeh, the S100 is HTC's rebranded version of the non FM radio version!
I also have the iTech clip (excellent unit with medium audio quality) as it can handle calls and lets you use any 3.5mm jack units you have but you have loads of cables about (use my B&O earbuds on that).
For genaral use and if I want to anser a call I use the Promate PM-2006 BT stereo headset as it is a halfway sized headphone with good audio quality and in call holding.
But for sheer audio enjoyment, I use my Creative CB2530, absolute bliss and can put most Hi-Fi's to shame.
SOZ, probably not what the thread starter asked for but WHO is gonna produce a GOOD set of headphones terminated in a mini usb? You will need the converter or BT (no converter at all!)
Every BT unit I have works seamlessly, no clicks, no splutters, no bad audio with my 'out of the box' non-carrier HTC TyTnII.
Damn, its either the beer or I should have been a salesman! Smiles.
There aren't any "best" headphones without using an adapter. If you want the best you'll need to spend you're looking at the Shure SE530 or go custom which is around $1000. It all depends on your budget.
ive got the Shure e4c's connected through an adapter and i can say you can't get better sound.. its so crystal clear, it sounds better than live people in front of you talking
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Well yes to the pairing to two sperate devices, and no to the 'very good sound quality but aren't humongous'. The Promate PM-2006 headset is a 'medium' sized' 'medium to good quality' folding headset with mike. Pair it to both units then disable the function you don't want it to do on whichever phone (under BT settings). It will halt audio and answer the call from the other unit. These headphones were primarily developed to use with a BT mp3 players with capability to connect to your mobile phone but WM phones do both!
Using 2 devices at once with Bluetooth stereo headphones
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Look at the Jabra BT8010. They're a little large, but have the advantage of using it in mono or stereo mode, as well as connecting to 2 devices simultaneously.
Incidentally, Seidio makes earphones that end in the proprietary htc mini-usb format. Haven't tested them out, but they're the only other ones i know of that don't need a converter.
Another vote for iTech Clip Radio. Works awesome with my Ultimate Ears Super fi 5 Extended Bass buds.
I bought Kyocera from here: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204239053&loc=111&pageFormat=20&rs=1&#cReviews
The best headphones I ever bought and have the most functionality. The only problem that some people might have is the look and size of the headphones. I have not charged the headphones for a month now and still running on standby.
- TKN
has anyone tried any Sony bluetooth stereo headset?
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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I think it might be possible using the Sony Erickson BT Earphone Stereo set. Check FleaBay... They got them cheaper than anywhere else. ( BT phone would have to be close to you, just disable the bluetooth on N93i, however The Sony Er unit has a 3.5 jack that can be plugged into the N93i, just marry the TytnII to the bluetooth)
If you marry to phones BT to the headset, and if you get a call from one while listening to music from the other, you will hear both the caller voice and the music at the same time. Jabra is one headset that I know of that can accept two devices, however when tried, I heard the device playing music however the music volume was very low while I talked on the phone. Not a great setup but might do the trick.

Crappy sound with bluetooth earphones.

I'm using Jabra 3030 and I'm getting really crappy sound. If I use the standard earphones, everything sounds great.
I read somewhere that an alternative music player would solve the problem, but nope. Sounds just as bad.
Has this got anything to do with audio booster?
Is there a walkaround to this problem?
Isn't there anyone who has a solution to this problem?
I bought a Jabra 3030 this saturday: Getting it exchanged due to excessive background noise.
It is noise you have too? If so, there is nothing wrong with the phone, its the crappy 3030 as other phones and even a laptop does the same. I've tested with a DS-200 and it sounds as good as wired buds.
There are some registry tweaks that greatly improve BT audio.
Under HKLM\Software\ Microsoft\Bluetooth \A2DP\Settings , remove the "MaxSupportedBitPool" and "BitPool" entries.
As usual, don't touch your registry if you are not sure, and keep a backup just in case...
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/cms/blogs/3/wm6_aamp_microsoft_bluetooth_a2dp_stereo
No, i think it's the lack of bass that makes the sound so bad.
That's why I thought of audio booster.
When I'm watching movies the sound is ok, but my metal sounds blah.
I don't think the problem lies in the Jabra device.
Renewing topi. Does anybody have any idea how to enable AudioBooster on BT headphones? It is disabled unless you connect normal headphones. Hopefully there is an option in reg somwhere to do it....
Why not just try a player that has a built in pre-amp????
- CorePlayer
- SRS WOW
That would solve your problem - if lack of bass is the problem. At least it would be a good (and quick) test.

MBS-100 BT Speaker

Just incase anyone out there is wondering if the bluetooth wireless speaker Sony MBS-100 works with the legend, yes, it does. Complete with volume control on your phone working fine (doesn't work on iphone). I'm glad I can still use this with my new phone.
Using Azure 1.01, stock music application.
What can you say about the sound quality?
Sound quality is just as good as it was on my old Sony Ericsson.
If you were curious to the speaker yourself, it's got great frequency range and a nice even sound, though top volume could be a bit more on some devices(fine on Legend)
It also doubles as a bluetooth receiver for larger stereos, as the 3.5mm in also doubles as an output.

Bad quality sound on Bluetooth Music streaming

I always had my HTC Tilt 2 playing music in my car through bluetooth. Now with my new HD7 I noticed the sound quality is very bad. It sounds like its streams at a low bit rate so all the high frequencies create crackling distorted. Overall sound doesn't have any richness to it. I use the BlackBerry Remote Stereo Bluetooth Gateway: http://www.amazon.com/BlackBerry-Re...M0/ref=sr_1_11?ie=UTF8&qid=1289972227&sr=8-11. The quality of the Tilt 2 paired up with it was really good. I think they need to fix this pronto.
Yeh I have the same problem too, its exactly the same if I use 3.5mm jack aux too, just far too quiet, causes so much distortion, neither bluetooth or 3.5mm sound any better. If you put headphones in you can tell there isnt enough volume at all.
Really needs fixing, seems more of a software issues as I've seen people with various WP7 models complaining about low volume.
Right now I'm having to use my old Touch Pro for audio streaming in the car.
Mine sounds great through headphones and car stereo (BT).
In the car I prefer the sound to my iPhone 3GS through BT and line out.
And the volume is loud enough using Ultimate Ears 5vi IEMs with plenty if bass
Enable the SRS Surround
Sound quality is always in the ear of the beholder, so difficult to fully compare what people consider good or bad.
I find the internal speaker, headphones and line-out (via 3.5mm) too quiet. Quality seems ok from the 3.5mm jack though.
But I tested the BT recently and at high volume it didn't sound very good on a beefy car stereo (with sub). I was disappointed, but had no basis for comparison at the time.
I have this issue too. I'm using the Sony DRBT140Q. The audio sounds perfect when connected to my G1 and Sennheiser BTD-300. But when connected to the HD7 the sound turns kind of...fuzzy on the mids. Gonna go try out other HD7s at the T-mobile store and see if it's a problem with my handset.
I also have this issue. With wired headphones the sound is OK, but with bluetooth audio the sound is bad. I tested it with a jabra BT3030 and with a SonyEricsson MW600. The sound is good with both Headsets when they are connected to my notebook.
HTC are not known for good blutooth support, I was hoping they would get their act together with this phone.
3.5 jack is fine, but bluetooth quality is aweful! was fine on the HD2.
On BT, the bass and mids are ok, but the highs are terrible, they are really crackly/distorted. You can get away with it on dance, because its not too noticable, but in Rock music, it just sounds ****e.
Mujja said:
Enable the SRS Surround
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If you have the phoned paired via Bluetooth Sound Enhancer makes no difference to the sound whatsoever. Even if connecting to 3.5mm and using sound enhancer it sounds terrible in my car.
Think I'm just gonna have to carry on using my Touch Pro 2 until something is changed with the volume. I just think there isnt enough, you have it too loud its distorted so you turn it down and then turn the radio up but its no better because you get a lot of hiss etc.
If your listening though AUX make sure all the sound enhancements are off, they make it sound terrible. They only make an improvement through the phone speaker.
They dont affect bluetooth at all though.
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
I have the same problem. Bad quality when streaming via bluetooth to my car radio. With my HD2 and Windows Mobile 6.5 I had exactly the same problem for which there were registry hacks to improve this. Do you think the same registry entries still exist on Windows Phone 7?
Bluetooth audio quality FIXED!!
Ok guys here it is. I figured out how to improve the Bluetooth music streaming quality.
1. Your device must be unlock to do this. Even if your device relocks it doesn’t matter.
2. After unlocking device download and install the XAP file RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. This is a registry Editor for WP7.
3. Once you have the RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0. on your phone do the following registry hack:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\A2 DP\Settings]
"Bit Pool"= change Value data to 51.
As I suspected the problem was in the sample rate settings. After I did the hack it sounded beautiful and at full sample rate. Some people don’t have the ear to catch the difference. I like to think I have a very good ear for this sort of thing. Being a musician and aspiring sound designer. I listen to all my music in the car through Bluetooth stereo gateway so I rely on this Bluetooth functionality 100%. Here is an example of the “Value data” number translated to sample rate.
Medium Quality
Bit Pool=35, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 229 kb/s
Bit Pool=33, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 237 kb/s
High Quality
Bit Pool=53, Sample Rate=44.1 kHz = 328 kb/s
Bit Pool=51, Sample Rate=48 kHz = 345 kb/s
Last Note: Even if you cannot unlock your phone anymore it won’t matter. As long as you gain access to that registry and change it. Unless you do a hard reset or Windows update you will need to repeat the process or unless Microsoft slaps their head about this issue before they release that update.
Wow that sounds like a plausible solution!!
Has anyone else tried it yet? Im still considering whether to hack my phone or not.
Try it. You wont regret it.
It works! did it last night and music was perfect in the car this morning! so happy now!
Just need a reg hack that allows me to download big files from the marketplace through my own 3G signal and not wifi now and ill be very very happy!
Also set "UseJointStereo" to 0 since one of the common joint stereo algorithm uses a lossy audio compression. BT Music sounds great with these changes!
What a difference
Thnx, sounds awesome.
toothfish said:
So is anyone going to fix this?
I have Mozart 7 and fits the same description as previously said :
Bad audio quality when connected with Bluetooth headset (Sony Ericsson MW600)
(crackled/distorted, a low pitch noise at the background, sounds like interference from other things) - ive tried it on everywhere its the same
sounds perfect when its wire connected
This is making me really angry since i got this Bluetooth together with my mozart 7!!!
Can we notify anyone about this in particular??
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i´ve the same headset and i noticed that srs-optimizing and dolby mobile is not working over bluetooth
also i cannot play forward
Verizon Trophy Fixed
Thanks for this fix! I finally got my Verizon Trophy fixed after
1. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.1.0.0 only to get a deployment error
2. Trying to deploy RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0 only to get a deployment error
3. Editing the XML file in RegistryEditor 1.2.0.0, which successfully deployed the .xap but wouldn't actually let me edit the necessary values BitPool and UseJointStereo. I could change them in the editor, but as soon as I navigated away from the editor they would return to their defaults.
4. Attempted this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963 only to be unable to run Connection Setup app
5. Completed this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1271963&page=64 after about 10 iterations of trying to open the Connection Setup app at the exact moment described. I didn't think it would work, but it did.
So, in summary, in order to install a registry editor (1.2.0.0) AND have it edit the BitPool and UseJointStereo values on my student developer unlocked Verizon Trophy running official mango update, I had to do an interop unlock.
Took me a few days to sort through, but I'm so unbelievably happy with the result!

Separate Personalized Sound For Different Sound Output

Hi. I tried looking through the forum via google, but didnt see anyone asking, so i would like to ask here.
I customized my Samsung Note 8 sound via Sound Quality and Effects -> Adapt Sound -> Personalize Sound for my Nakamichi earphones and the sound is superb. I love it.
I also spent hours to slowly tune my car audio system via it's amplifiers and my active sub-woofers. Playing from FM radio or MP3 via USB is fine and awesome. But when i play from my phone, it is horrible.
From time to time stream spotify or listen to mp3 stored on my phone to my car stereo system. I am currently just streaming via Bluetooth but the sound is aweful. the bass is off and too loud and it hurts. The sound will crack and it is just dreadful.
But i do not want to retune the Personalized sound on my phone or the amplifiers on my car.
I will be getting a new car btw, and it comes with android auto but i have yet to test my phone with android auto. the car dealer would not let me connect for "i dont know what reasons" so i am a bit worried the sound may come out horrible as well.
Is there a way to set separate sound profiles so i can switch them easily? For use in car and for use when using earphones via 2.5mm earphone jack.
Any help here is greatly appreciated.

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