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BB Connect 4.0.0.90 for WM6Pro, HTC TyTN II, and Rogers Wireless

Hello there,
I seem to be having trouble connecting to Rogers' BB network.
To give a little background information on my Wireless Plan:
I'm originally a BB user. Currently, I have Blackberry Data Plan (NOT Blackberry Connect) attached to my plan.
I can check Email, browse the net a bit, use Jive Talk, all through EDGE (or so it says on my BB 8800).
I just got the TyTN II recently, and I want to connect my TyTN II to the Blackberry Network (I'm not quite sure whether I have to switch plans, from Blackberry Data, to Blackberry Connect?)
I've also downloaded the software for WM6Pro, I tried registering my device to the network, and.. it 'sorta' did work for a brief moment. I even received an email confirmation saying my handheld has been registered.
Moments later, I was disconnected, and I wasn't able to reconnect again.
Looking at the Status tab (while my TyTN 2 tries to register itself to the Network), I can see the status changes from: Network Available, Data Tunnel Available before it goes back to Not Connected.
Do I have to switch my plan from BB Data to BB Connect?
Do I have to release my old PIN and then re-register it with the PIN I have in my TyTN II?
(BTW, I just called Rogers to release my old BB8800 PIN and IMEI and replaced it with my TyTN II, the rep did also confirm the device type I have, "TyTn.. HTC something" his words.)
Thanks,
Evan

You would actually have to switch your plan over to PDA BlackBerry Connect...

So, I managed to be connected to HSDPA/3G/GPRS/EDGE using the BBConnect app. Using the version posted here, 4.0.0.91
The type of connection keeps on changing though.
However, browsing (with WiFi off) is such a pain.
And I'm not sure why the there seems to be a timer when I click the Connectivity Icon on the taskbar. Counting up. Blackberry (3G).
Oh, and I haven't actually switch my account to BB Connect, yet.

Help setting up home proxy to use as WAP on my Kaiser

Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?

can anyone help?

How exactly would it be "free" internet? You are still going to need a data connection to access the proxy server.

it would be free because I would not be paying internet charges through my cellular provider using their wap server to access the internet, rather I would bundle the cost into my already home internet charges if I set up a home proxy and pointed my phone there.
It still would register as me making a call, but it would not register as me using the internet, hence 'free' internet.

Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.

Lidberg said:
Well technically that's what Opera Mini does. They have their "proxy" servers to feed you web pages. Guess what? AT&T doesn't care. Either way it's still data and I get charged for it (although I do have an unlimited data plan so that point is moot). They don't differentiate between web and any other kind of data access. It's all data and what you're proposing won't change the fact that you need a data plan to do it and will get charged for it.
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if you redirect your proxy outside of AT&Ts MediaNET you will not get charged

OK, apparently you didn't read anything I typed. Let's look at it another way.
I have a Tilt. I can enable or disable AT&T's proxy server. Does it really matter? NO. Why? Because in both cases data is being transmitted over EDGE or HSDPA. It's bits and bytes traveling over the airwaves. Whether you are directly connected to the internet, using AT&T's proxy or your own proxy, it's all 1's and 0's to them. If they see those 1's and 0's being transmitted from your phone to the internet, you are getting charged for it.
If it was that easy to bypass AT&T's data plan, wouldn't you think everyone would be doing it? I know I would.
Prove me wrong.

In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.

mjhill said:
In short: As long as you phone has to send a signal to the cellular towers that AT&T owns and operates, you will be charged data access. The Kaiser has built-in wi-fi, you can get around [most] of the associated issues with WAP by using that when you're at home; however, some programs require a WAP connection as opposed to a standard wi-fi connection, which would require you to send data over the air to AT&T's towers. It doesn't matter where the proxy itself is located, so long as you have to send data to the cellular towers, you're SOL.
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Good explanation

You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges. There used to be a great program over at MoDaCo called NoData which when you ran it showed you the connections you had and let you disable the ones you wanted to have off. Then you could use Wifi without starting a GPRS connection. The program still exists, do a search for it hear or google it at MoDaCo. Only thing, I seem to recall that the creator of the program said it was only for WM5. I've seen people say that it works in WM6 but haven't tried it myself.
Short of that you could just go into DataComm and tap on the Data connection icon, to turn if off as you tap WLan to turn it on. Of course that will disable your data connection and push e-mail and you'll have to remember to start it up again afterwards if you want to get your push e-mail.

jspetrino said:
Can anyone point me to a guide to setting up a proxy server on my windows machine at home so that I can use that on my Tilt for free (relatively) internet?
Ive scowered forums, cant find a solid solution. Can you anyone help?
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Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.

I had a similar question, which got no replies....
T-mobile puts you through it's proxies, so that pictures etc are compressed, which is a bit pants. That's one reason why you might want to do as described in the OP.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345029

MHC48 said:
You need to turn off or disable the GPRS connection if you want to use WiFi without paying AT&T connection charges.
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This simply isn't true. If you enable WiFi and you're passing traffic through GPRS, then you don't have your WiFi network configured correctly.
Go to Settings-Connections-WiFi and change the pull down for your adapter from "Work" to "The Internet. Associate with AP. Surf to your heart's content without using the cellular network.
You can shut off the phone connection if you like, but there's no need to do so.
Edit: Just for giggles, I fired up my WiFi configured as above and grabbed a 3MB file directly on the phone. GPRS Monitor recorded zero traffic increase.

while(!(linux)){wm} said:
Did you happen to be a Verizon customer before you moved to ATT? Verizon tracks data usage through their proxy, so yes, you COULD get free internet with them. I did it all the time, and i miss it. ATT is a bit smarter about it. Instead of forcing you to pay for an unlimited plan or nothing... ATT lets you get on the internet whenever you want... they just charge you for it.
In short, AFAIK, there is no way to get free internet through ATTs network like i used to with verizon.
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yes I used to be Verizon never go back to them again! I used to use a quick fix on one of my LG phones redirecting to a proxy and i got free internet that way.

Comm Manager Question

I have done a search on this question but found nothing that relates to the problem i have.
When i go into the comm manager my "Microsoft Direct Push" and "Data Connection" buttons are greyed out, i am asuming this means they do not work?
Would this also account for the fact that i cannot connect up to my providers Edge or GPRS data connections? Because at the moment i canot access the internet using my providers Ip settings.
I have an unbranded original unlocked HTC tytn II, the ROM version is 3.29.422.1 WWE and the ROM date is 05/20/08
Regards
Dmac
CAYMAN ISLANDS

Has no one else had this type of problem?
Regards
Dmac
CAYMAN ISLANDS

I believe to have the Direct Push button light up, you need an Exchange Server email account set up.
As far as the data button, who's service are you using?

Hi GWelker62
Thanks for the reply ok i don't have exchange set up, so that would explain that one.
The service i use down here is Cable and Wireless, they use GPRS and EDGE, no 3G as of yet.
Regards
Dmac
CAYMAN ISLANDS

Would anyone else have an idea why the data button is greyed out? is this a service provider problem? or a phone problem.

Who is your cell service provider, at&t or T-Mobile perhaps? If it's at&t, I might be able to help with your data connection settings.

yep i did say in my second to last post, it is cable and wireless, C&W,
or as we call them careless and worthless

LOL, sorry, I misinterpreted "cable & wireless" as you were using a cable internet service with a wireless router. I'm not familiar with that company.
I can't help with their data connection settings, but I have to assume if you’re not getting any internet connection with the settings you have now, then the data button isn't going to light up either.

Ok so this is a service provider problem, and not the phone by what you are saying!
I fee much better knowing that, i just have to get on to them and find out why this is a problem
Regards

That happens on my phone, the button is grayed out until a program initiates a data connection; then the button becomes active. I believe its only for terminating a data connection as it tends to be dial as needed. Direct push is also available when there is an active data connection although it does nothing without an exchange server set up.

Hi Shub-Niggurath
Thanks for that, it makes all the sense in the world, gonna go to the network provider and see if they can help me out.
Regards

Hi GWelker62
Can i ask a favour, could you give me your AT&T setting for the phone, then i can work off of them, just using the provider over here.
I just need to see how, what and where you are putting them
Regards

paying for WiFi

Hi all
This may sound like a stupid question but do i pay to use wifi on my ignito.
I am on o2 and when i got this phone they asked if i wanted unlimited wifi as a bolt on. I said no thinking the phone has wifi so should be free using my connection at work and home.
Thanks for any replys
Matt

WiFi is free say at home when you connect via your wireless router or your work place, if they provide that facility. You only pay for it if you are say at a coffee shop and they charge you to connect to their wireless access point. Im not sure what O2 were on about ?

probably the o2 in your country has wifi spot all over the place, useful if u need internet on the go around metro area (the wifi spots usually there)
telstra in australia also has such thing.

Yes, they are talking about unlimited use of O2 Wifi hotspots - fairly obvious and explained here:
http://www.o2.co.uk/mobilestariffs/tariffs/paymonthly/boltons/unlimitedwifi

andFTP problem...

Hi all, I have a strange problem and wondered if anyone could think why it won't work.
I am trying to get access to my work FTP server via andFTP. Now it works fine on my home WiFi (so not an internal external issue) but can't get it to work over the 3G. Does anyone have any idea why this may be or am I just best off trying a different client?

If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.

ZigmaDK said:
If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.
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Thanks for the reply. Just to clarify though it is definately working externally as I can access my works FTP server fine from my home via wifi, even though they are on completely different networks so I know the routing and forwarding etc. is correct from the FTP server end. I just cant work out why it wont connect over 3G.

Can you login to your FTP from work? Or just outside your own network?
It is not the same that you can connect to an outside FTP, that it is to connect from the outside to your internal FTP.
You need to forward port 21 in your router to your FTP server's IP address. Otherwise it wont work.

ZigmaDK said:
If it doesn't work on 3G, then it's because you haven't forwarded your FTP port in your router. When your phone is connected through 3G, it is outside your local network.
And then you also need to know your "outside" IP address. (Google my IP)
And then thats the IP you need to connect to in andFTP.
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I can log-in internally when connected to WiFi, I can log-in externally when connected to WiFi, I can't log-in via 3G at all (SocketException). I may well try another FTP client, any recommendations.

So if you connect to a WiFi that isn't your own, you can still log in?
If that is so, then I guess they might have blocked FTP transfers over your 3G network.
It works on mine, thats why it sounds wierd to me, and the only difference is more or less the mobile company.

ZigmaDK said:
So if you connect to a WiFi that isn't your own, you can still log in?
If that is so, then I guess they might have blocked FTP transfers over your 3G network.
It works on mine, thats why it sounds wierd to me, and the only difference is more or less the mobile company.
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spot on... after trying a new FTP client and that not working I have done a bit of digging on the web and it seem's t-mob uk block FTP transfers. Anyone else on the same provider confirm this?

That sucks
Try to call t-mobile and ask them if this is just a bug, or if it was intended.

tell me about it! Gonna give them a ring when I get five minutes although I can imagine the call now...
Me: Hello, I cant seem to access FTP via my mobile internet.
T-Mob: Whats FTP???
Me: Could you please open Port 21 so I can access my work files.
T-Mob: No, but did you hear about the great new services you are entitled to for just £xx a month...

cyberkid2002 said:
spot on... after trying a new FTP client and that not working I have done a bit of digging on the web and it seem's t-mob uk block FTP transfers. Anyone else on the same provider confirm this?
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FYI, I can ftp my home ftp server no problems over T mobile network using AndFTP.
It could well be how they have you set up, and what package you are signed up for, If you got a G2 from tmobile, I was told there is a specific set they have for you if you have a G2

thanks for the info Higgsy...
As an update to this I have just gotten off the phone to T-Mobile CS and have to say they were very helpful. Although the guy was unsure at first why it wan't letting me get through to FTP he suspected it could be due to not having 'web n walk plus' (£7.50 per month instead of £5). Due to a long wait he added this to my account free of charge.
The problem hasn't gone away yet but he did say it could take up to 24 hours to go through.
Will keep this post updated and let you know if it gets sorted.

I thought it might be that, I used to get this issue trying to access certain things on my old e71 when I had standard web and walk set up. I was actually told by a tech support guy, who was also very helpful that the G1/G2 needed a specific web and walk/account set up.

a quick update to this and 24 hours on unfortunately the upgrade to w+w plus doesnt seem to have fixed things, have decided to give this a miss now and wait for something like a dropbox app to come along.
On the plus side I yet again mentioned my poor internet speed (was averaging around 300-350kbps) so he had a look at the account. Despite being told on several occasion before there was no issue he had a look at the profile assigned to the account and found that, surprise-surprise, I was being throttled at 3g speeds. A few minutes and a phone reset later I am getting speeds in excess of 1500kbps! Hurrah!

I'm not sure what AndFTP's default is, but maybe you want to check that you are using passive mode (it's in the Advanced tab).