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O2 XDA Flame or HTC Kaiser

I am happy to say this. I am disappointed with the HTC Kaiser very much. I was expecting something more.
Instead I think that something more can be satisfied with O2 XDA Flame.
That is why I am sending my HTC Kaiser to my uncle and getting an O2 XDA Flame on Monday. I am all about performance and size. And O2 XDA Flame completely outcasts HTC Kaiser even in terms of price.
What do you all think?

nuclear said:
I am happy to say this. I am disappointed with the HTC Kaiser very much. I was expecting something more.
Instead I think that something more can be satisfied with O2 XDA Flame.
That is why I am sending my HTC Kaiser to my uncle and getting an O2 XDA Flame on Monday. I am all about performance and size. And O2 XDA Flame completely outcasts HTC Kaiser even in terms of price.
What do you all think?
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if your talking about graphics and gaming, you will find the flame exactly the same or maybe even worse, who knows..
if you were trying to play games and they were slow it's cuz they probably dont support the kaiser's chip. all it needs is GDI or OpenGL to work. I think the Kaiser actually supports more than the flame does atm.

mikeeey said:
if your talking about graphics and gaming, you will find the flame exactly the same or maybe even worse, who knows..
if you were trying to play games and they were slow it's cuz they probably dont support the kaiser's chip. all it needs is GDI or OpenGL to work. I think the Kaiser actually supports more than the flame does atm.
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Well I need help deciding. I dont want to keep like 10 devices. I want one device. The perfect best in performance. Has the best Techinical detail and parts.
Which should i choose.
O2 XDA Flame,
HTC Athena or
HTC Kaiser.
I have already tried out HTC Athena and I have the HTC Kaiser in my hand. So i will pretty much understand all advise you all shall offer.

i had flame before kaiser. i like kaiser much better over my flame. first of all, the size is much more realistic nowadays. kaiser is much easier to put in pants pocket or jacket pocket compare to flame although the weight is quite the same. second, flame doesnt have GPS non 3.0 camera. WM6 is more stable. Flame has better gfx and bigger screen for sure. i will pick kaiser over flame for sure anytime. eric

For me,
Flame :
- Is bigger compared to Kaiser, not fit in my pocket
- Does not have GPS (and I like to have 1 device for all if possible)
- Camera is not 3MP
- Battery drain is worse
More info check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=305686
Kaiser:
- Right size
- GPS is nice and working fine
- Camera is 3MP
- Battery is good
Does Flame run WM 6 Pro? If not, too bad ...
Screen? Hmm it is nice to have 3.5 but I am not sure about the quality.
Seriously, what kind of applications do you want to run that require heavy CPU power?
I found Kaiser is not that slow and I have no complain for my day-to-day usage

Yes Kaiser is not that slow. hehe. And when those huge microSDHC cards come we will be somewhere on equal grounds with XDA Flames storage. It has the same CPU as Universal. So that is pretty good cause the CPU is nice and fast. For battery I dont care much.
I love that GPU though. Also I love VGA display more then QVGA. I think it is perfect device for me for watching video and gaming. Its worth a try.

nuclear said:
Yes Kaiser is not that slow. hehe. And when those huge microSDHC cards come we will be somewhere on equal grounds with XDA Flames storage. It has the same CPU as Universal. So that is pretty good cause the CPU is nice and fast. For battery I dont care much.
I love that GPU though. Also I love VGA display more then QVGA. I think it is perfect device for me for watching video and gaming. Its worth a try.
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VGA is good. But forget about the Nvidia GPU since no software is optimize for that GPU

Yes. I am still very confused. I have to decide today what to keep. XDA Flame or Kaiser or Athena... which one should i keep :S :S :S :S

Good News! I decided to keep my HTC Kaiser. And go for O2 XDA Flame as well!
And so does anyone know where i can get the O2 XM-02 Infrared Keyboard accessory. It is mainly used with O2 XDA Atom models.

nuclear said:
Good News! I decided to keep my HTC Kaiser. And go for O2 XDA Flame as well!
And so does anyone know where i can get the O2 XM-02 Infrared Keyboard accessory. It is mainly used with O2 XDA Atom models.
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just looking at your sig Why do you need so much phone? i got the htc x7500 and the kaiser and they are enough for me. i got the 6gb card today and kaiser runs well except internet explorer bug.

such a strange comparison...
I see two totally different phones here.
The XDA Flame is large - it makes the TyTN II look small.
The TyTN II has a scroll wheel.
The Flame has a pretty cool looking USB-on-the-go thingie.
Flame has 2mp camera with flash, TyTNII has 3mp autofocus with no flash.
The Flame is UMTS only. Ugh! When I was roaming in India last summer it was painful downloading email and data over UMTS.
The Flame has an FM receiver for music (which it needs because its network connection speed is too slow to stream media).
The Flame has VGA and some advanced graphics chip for which there isn't a lot of custom software yet written. It also has 2G of ROM which is nice.
The TyTN II has GPS, a built-in keyboard (tho you can add to the bulk of the Flame by getting an external one) and neat-o tilt action.
Seems to me you want to compare the XDA Flame to the Toshiba Portégé G900 - they are far more similar in terms of features, and the Toshiba is smaller, has HSDPA and a built-in keyboard, and sports higher resolution than the Flame.
I bought the Kaiser / TyTN II because it has everything in one package.

XDA Flame _ review
I own a XDA flame with wm5. I liked this device, but it has somany bugs. Wireless doesnt work. Contacted O2 and they asked me to do a hard reset but still same problem (Wifi Never worked !!!!).
I think Wifi issue is a common one, i heared same thing from my frnds as well.
Another thing is Operating system get stuck often.
You cant send sms while you are connected with gprs or computer which sucks big time.
But everything else is kindaa cool, its like you are travelling with a pocket media house. Especially USB host facility is really cool
Hopefully they gonna fix it with wm6 upgrade, which they supposed to release couple of months back. I got official reply from o2 that they are still sorting out bugs with wm6. So i dont expect that from next 2 months.
I would advice any one planning to buy Flame to wait till they release wm6.

For the people working at HTC

Please please recompile stuff for the new processor, ask Qualcomm for sdk / libraries, do something, damn it !
I have a PDA i use in my car only for GPS nav (MIO P350 - 400MHz Samsung) and it plays movies better, not only speed (benchmark on same movie 172% vs 142% on the Kaiser with the EXACT same settings) but also less tearing in landscape mode. Oh, and the price was 3 times lower (i know, i know, GSM, hardware keyboard, etc, etc. but the Kaiser is supposed to be THE BEST THING EVER, with a new generation processor... crap)
Again, please release a new ROM that does justice to the processor, or stop marketing crap...

You do have a choice to buy other brands... ??
I personally find the Kaiser great just about any way. Yes there are components that could have been better. There's no doubt about it. But to call HTC product crap? That's just too much.

All i'm saying is that the processor has a lot more to offer, and on paper it's great, but the way HTC released the Kaiser it's like buying a super-computer, the best on the market, and you run things on it without drivers (you know how Windows runs / looks without video drivers)

I'm sure it will get better over time while they work out the kinks. The Danish version was released without World Card Mobile, but they are aware of that and will post an update on the eclub forum when its ready.
I'm quite satisfied with my TyTN II.

I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...

RPG0 said:
I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...
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Then get rid of it. I am sure you can sell it on eBay for what you paid for it. I think it's the best thing on the market right now

RPG0 said:
I'm coming back to this: The DirectDraw samples coming with Windows Mobile SDK don't even work !!! What are you smoking, HTC ? Give us proper drivers !
About the "crap" earlier: the "product" is crap, the parts it contains are some good, some very good and some(software) crap.
In this case the weakest link kinda ruins it for me...
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I agree with you. It seems my Wizard OMAP 850(overclocked to 247) plays my 384kbps .wmv files better than my Kaiser... Shame. If by "tearing" you mean that the top half and bottom half of the vids skew sometimes when playing I also get that. Although I am not a expert I would say that the proc seems like it could be better optimized. Hopefully this will come about in future ROM upgrades. You can't blame HTC for wanting to capitalize on this. I mean people DID buy the crap out of it. They just better not leave us hanging. I hear the iMate Ultimates with the 500mhz proc fly.

juiceppc said:
I agree with you. It seems my Wizard OMAP 850(overclocked to 247) plays my 384kbps .wmv files better than my Kaiser... Shame. If by "tearing" you mean that the top half and bottom half of the vids skew sometimes when playing I also get that. Although I am not a expert I would say that the proc seems like it could be better optimized. Hopefully this will come about in future ROM upgrades. You can't blame HTC for wanting to capitalize on this. I mean people DID buy the crap out of it. They just better not leave us hanging. I hear the iMate Ultimates with the 500mhz proc fly.
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Finally, someone who used windows mobile devices before and knows what it's all about.
About selling: like i said, it's like buying a good computer but not having good drivers for the hardware... why sell a good piece of hardware ? Ask the vendor for good drivers !

been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!

eaglesrest said:
been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!
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I agree, by now these devices should be easily able to outperform lesser devices. However, HTC hasn't done many tweaks to the underlying OS to make it a better user experience besides adding touchflo. Look at how well and fast the Treo 750 or 700wx run and all of the user enhancements.

eaglesrest said:
been using pda's for years inc original ce versions, and couldnt disagree with you more.
this device is awesome!
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At playing videos? I tend to agree with the OP... the drivers clearly aren't optimized for the hardware at this point. Given the specs, it should play videos better than pervious products, not worse.

the video part actually refers to direct draw mode, because there's nothing HTC can do about the other modes, it's raw processor power
my problem is with the system in general, i can see drawing when scrolling in program folder, which is using GDI, which is not optimized. I also see tearing (it's not VSync-ed).
Aaaand.... the cherry on top: i'm a programmer and this device doesn't support directdraw so good (ok, it's slow, i get it, but at least let me use it with back buffer...)

He called the MARKETING crap.
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.... But to call HTC product crap? That's just too much.
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Ahaa, someone else noticed that the software sucks : Qualcomm claims thier chip has hardware DirectX support, but our Kaiser doesn't:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=339745
btw: i'm not sure if Qualcomm lies or HTC is lazy, but something is really wrong here

HTC or Qualcomm or ATT or whoever should really address this. Watching .wmv(Microsoft's own codec for crying out loud) files is horrible. Horrible I say! I've tried it on 3 different Tilts. And for anyone to say it's not doesn't know what their talking about. Or has REALLY low expectations.
It's totally like the OP said. It needs video drivers...
Has anyone tried other codecs with TCPMP? Curious if it's any better. Unfortunately I've got GIG's of .wmv files...

The Kaiser came out right after I bought my Wing. I would have bought the Kaiser -- seems like an awesome phone, but now I'm going to get some mileage out of my Wing.

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Has anyone tried other codecs with TCPMP? Curious if it's any better. Unfortunately I've got GIG's of .wmv files...
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I have tried .mp4s with Core Player, and with some tweaking, they play fairly smoothly, but I agree -- .WMV is frustratingly bad. I came from a Samsung i730, which handled all codecs encoded up to (and sometimes beyond) 700kbps with no problem.

I also seem to think the video recording on the camera side is suffering from these bad "drivers". I did a comparison and my TyTnI video is WAY less burry. Way less...
Shame. HTC you should really be ashamed. Or at least get to fixing it and release a proper ROM. Or is video not important?

Sold my hermes for this
It hasnt made a huge Difference accept 50 to 60 mb prog memory. camera is horrible like o2 IIi

Video slow
Well before I had Imate JAsjam thatone played wmv and other video files without a hitch, Comparing the speed to the Kaiser the looks like a device
from the early 90's

Anyone noticed using touch screen in games slows down device?

I mean its ridicolous like games like virtual pool which ran on my 300mhz xscale ipaq at full speed slows to a crawl once I start touching the cue stick or ball onscreen. When I am not touching the screen in any game like ffrace or wolfenstein or duke3d or krally it runs pretty well (though not as fast as a 400mhz xscale of samsung device) but once I touch the screen the graphics slow to a halt. It makes awesome games like call of duty 2 virtually unplayable unless you can set the game to just use the hardware buttons or keypad, but not all games have such an option.
Whats the deal? the HTC Trinity had this problem on earlier roms but I am running Dutty's latest rom with the very latest CE build and it still has this problem.

Welcome in the wonderfull world of the Kaiser. You like gaming ? Don't buy a Kaiser !
About COD2, I also tried to play the game without touching the screen, only by pressing the buttons, but it is very slow anyway (unplayable from my point of view).
But I would be glad if I only had problems with COD2 !!!

ive been trying to find a way to fix this problem, i think it can be done, but i would need a rom cooker? someone who is famaliar with a rom (or device) which it's screen does not slow down when pressed. we may be able to get the touchscreen driver from this device. i know theres someone out there that can help.

Are there any HTC devices which doe
n't slow down when using the touchscreen?

jym04 said:
Are there any HTC devices which doe
n't slow down when using the touchscreen?
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Not really, you wanna games device? buy a PSP.....
OH sugar.. gonna get shouted at now...

jym04 said:
Are there any HTC devices which doe
n't slow down when using the touchscreen?
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the Universal, for example. that is, non-2.8) models.
(BTW, i my articles, I've thoroughly disussed this problem and was among the first, 2 years ago,to report the problem to HTC. Too bad they still haven't bothered fixing it..)

it is more than just the touch screen drivers its the Direct 3D and other graphics driver that dont exisit on the Kaiser at all if you would read the other threads there is a large pool of money for the first person to make these drivers and get them working on the Kaiser... HTC screwed everyone with there advertising and I have to admit this phone is ****ing slow for what it should be i think all processors should be atleast 900mhz to make it fast enough for me

Menneisyys said:
the Universal, for example. that is, non-2.8) models.
(BTW, i my articles, I've thoroughly disussed this problem and was among the first, 2 years ago,to report the problem to HTC. Too bad they still haven't bothered fixing it..)
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As you can tell Menneisyys, people do not want to listen....
Menneisyys has said this many times before the d3d issue came out...
There is a touch screen handler problem in ALL HTC devices..
PLEASE...SEARCH THE FORUM...

Menneisyys said:
the Universal, for example. that is, non-2.8) models.
(BTW, i my articles, I've thoroughly disussed this problem and was among the first, 2 years ago,to report the problem to HTC. Too bad they still haven't bothered fixing it..)
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Menneisyys,
This problem would pretty much cripple the Polaris/Cruise. Do you think this will be a problem for this device as well. I have posted this question several times, but so far all I have gotten is anecdotal replys about the screen being the same as the Touch. The Touch is also 2.8 screen but some people suggest the screen technology is different, so it works better. I have tried a friends Touch, and it does seem to be better, but not dramatiaclly better and from an external standpoint, all I can tell is that it is flush mounted instead of inset.
So from someone who understands the internals, is there any reason why the screens used for the Touch and (assuming) the soon to be relased Cruise perform better?

Former Nokia N95 owners

I have had a 8125, 8525 and currently a 8925. I am disappointed with the camera of this phone, battery life and some other things. I was looking at changing phones and the one I am looking at is the N95. I have been using a T9 software dial pad to see if I can take the text input, I have no issue. I checked and all the apps I used are available for the symbian OS for the most part. My question is what did you guys not like about the phone to make you switch to the Kaiser. Was the phone slow etc? If this thread is waste of time for you please disregard.
Thanks in advance
-McMex

The phone is not slow at all. I just recently swithed back to Windows Mobile tonight, Symbian is great, but I'm not bias, both OS have the same software and apps, and technical similarities. I switched back to Windows to see what they have to offer for WM6. I swithed to Symbian when the first WM6 os we leaked, and kept moving up until I got the N95 8GB.
Windows firmware is more leniant in terms of modding however ;D
And a hardware keypasd is a must for me.

mcmexican said:
I have had a 8125, 8525 and currently a 8925. I am disappointed with the camera of this phone, battery life and some other things. I was looking at changing phones and the one I am looking at is the N95. I have been using a T9 software dial pad to see if I can take the text input, I have no issue. I checked and all the apps I used are available for the symbian OS for the most part. My question is what did you guys not like about the phone to make you switch to the Kaiser. Was the phone slow etc? If this thread is waste of time for you please disregard.
Thanks in advance
-McMex
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Currently (with the crappy video driver of the Kaiser - and also taken into account the camera "quality", the size, weight etc. into account), IMHO, the N95 is better than the Kaiser UNLESS you need a specific Windows Mobile app not available on Symbian OR you definitely need the touch screen (to, for example, make remote desktop control or something similar - that is, mouse / stylus-dependent - much easier).
You might also want to follow my articles - in my latest Bibles, I publish extensive comparisons between the two operating systems.

we3zy said:
And a hardware keypasd is a must for me.
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1, welcome to xda-devs
2, use the ThinkOutside SA keyboard. It's working just great with my N95. And, the cumulative (!) weight of the two dvices are still under that of the Kaiser (not to mention it's a full keyboard, not a slow-to-operate thumbboard.)

Thank you all for the feedback I am really let down by the Kaiser. I don't even use the hardware keyboard I have been using the cootek soft keyboard. Guess it makes my decision pretty easy then. I need to look into the ThinkOutside SA keyboard.
Thanks again
-McMex

I will only consider buying a Nokia again when they decide to add a touchscreen. That's what made me sell mine. For me a phone without a touchscreen is like a computer without a mouse. It wasn't a N95 though, it was a S60 1st Edition phone.

Smaniac said:
I will only consider buying a Nokia again when they decide to add a touchscreen. That's what made me sell mine. For me a phone without a touchscreen is like a computer without a mouse. It wasn't a N95 though, it was a S60 1st Edition phone.
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Well, I have tons of Windows Mobile Pocket PC's, Smartphones and non-WinMo devices. In most cases (except in some games and tasks like remote desktop control, drawing on screen instead of using a keyboard for input etc.), I find the lack of touchscreen a minor problem on both my MS Smartphones and the N95 - it doesn't reduce my efficiency in most cases (for example, reading/ answering mail, Web browsing, watching video, listening to audio, playing games etc.). It even helps a lot because it lets for one-handed usage.
Of course, if one uses his/her phone for remote desktop control (and similar stuff), he/she should go for a phone with a touchscreen.

Not to mention that the N95 misses out on the TyTn's high 'coolness' factor.
Next to that, i think developers in general are more interested in making software for a Windows Mobile device than a device running on Symbian.
If you really want a phone that can outmatch the TyTn in probably every way (except for the IMHO lame Symbian OS) you'll have to wait a few more weeks and buy a Nokia N82.
Sweet phone, check out it's stats here

Menneisyys said:
Well, I have tons of Windows Mobile Pocket PC's, Smartphones and non-WinMo devices. In most cases (except in some games and tasks like remote desktop control, drawing on screen instead of using a keyboard for input etc.), I find the lack of touchscreen a minor problem on both my MS Smartphones and the N95 - it doesn't reduce my efficiency in most cases (for example, reading/ answering mail, Web browsing, watching video, listening to audio, playing games etc.). It even helps a lot because it lets for one-handed usage.
Of course, if one uses his/her phone for remote desktop control (and similar stuff), he/she should go for a phone with a touchscreen.
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For me everything is much easier with touchscreen. Browsing, home screen (my Nokia had only 2 home screen shortcuts, one for each soft key), using a full on-screen keyboard instead of the sometimes extremely annoying T9, etc. But that's just my opinion.
troyk said:
Not to mention that the N95 misses out on the TyTn's high 'coolness' factor.
Next to that, i think developers in general are more interested in making software for a Windows Mobile device than a device running on Symbian.
If you really want a phone that can outmatch the TyTn in probably every way (except for the IMHO lame Symbian OS) you'll have to wait a few more weeks and buy a Nokia N82.
Sweet phone, check out it's stats here
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Is the N82 better than the N95? I thought N95 was still the best one, because it is 13 model numbers higher! (just kidding lol, but I did think a lower number meant a lower model).
One thing I'm really concerned on the Kaiser is the screen, that IMO is way too big for QVGA. Mine is 2.4" and I can already see the pixels. Kaiser could be a lot smaller if it also had a 2.4" screen.
And speaking of that, how about the colors? N95 has a 16m color screen, my phone has a 262k, but Kaiser is only 65k. Doesn't that make a big difference on movies and stuff?

Crappy video driver for Tytn II ...
Menneisyys said:
Currently (with the crappy video driver of the Kaiser - and also taken into account the camera "quality", the size, weight etc. into account), IMHO, the N95 is better than the Kaiser UNLESS you need a specific Windows Mobile app not available on Symbian OR you definitely need the touch screen (to, for example, make remote desktop control or something similar - that is, mouse / stylus-dependent - much easier).
You might also want to follow my articles - in my latest Bibles, I publish extensive comparisons between the two operating systems.
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Any news about HTC on this driver ? Hardware clearly indicate much more possible performance ... any chance to get our device and OS delivering their power ....

adebilloez said:
Any news about HTC on this driver ? Hardware clearly indicate much more possible performance ... any chance to get our device and OS delivering their power ....
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Not much... see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=351986

I wanted to thank all of you it did help me make my decision I should have my N95 here tomorrow. I dont think anyone here is going to care if I like it better than my Kaiser or not. I will keep my Kaiser just in case I do not. Again thank you guys for all the information and opinions.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Thank you all for the feedback I am really let down by the Kaiser. I don't even use the hardware keyboard I have been using the cootek soft keyboard. Guess it makes my decision pretty easy then. I need to look into the ThinkOutside SA keyboard.
Thanks again
-McMex
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So, your last 3 PPC's have been slideouts - yet you don't use it? Why don't you just get an iphone? Just kidding...really.
I don't use it much as well but do if the the text is long enough it gets its moneys worth. I'm been let down somewhat but at the sametime
things like internal GPS keep me stable - and the ROM Cooking community as well does of good job of filling in areas I feel are lacking...like
performance. Although, AKU 0.4.4 and 1.27.14.09 isn't all that bad. Most every phone I have been through on any platform has disappointed me.

You might consider the Sony Ericsson P1a.
It's beautiful and they have certainly fixed the flaws the they introduced in the P990. No support for US 3G Bandwidths, though.

When I bought my Kaiser I figured I'd switch between it and my N95 depending on what I'm doing... the speakerphone on the N95 is better than the one in my business-class phone on my desk for example.
Anyways, my thoughts were I'd use the N95 when not working, or when I needed to be on con-calls all day, and use the Kaiser when I needed something more communication oriented (read email and whatever else would make the character recognition/qwerty keyboard an advantage).
Well, fast-forward to today - my N95 pretty much only leaves the house if I'm going to be using the camera on it. The T9 on it is the second best I've ever used, so typing on it isn't too bad, the multimedia features are second to none, and its a nice, light phone, unlike the brick that is the Kaiser.
I guess if you're going to do a side by side of the features as I see them, it would go something like this;
GPS: Kaiser comes out ahead... getting a lock is easier/faster, plus you could always hook up an external antenna (not that I ever would).
Video: N95 hands down better since hardware acceleration in the Kaiser isn't being used appropriately at this time.
Audio: About equal.
Phone: N95 comes out ahead due to the superior speakerphone.
Apps: Both are equally useable from a smartphone point of view... Symbian has a huge community, WM has a huge community.
Camera: N95 hands down. Takes some of the best Macro shots I've seen.
Portability: N95 is smaller and much much lighter.
Build quality: There's some question about the slider mechanism in the N95 - some of them feel 'loose' but its easily fixed. I've never felt like I was going to break it. Kaiser feels more solid, but that's probably due to the extra weight.
Battery life: N95 battery sucks, hands down. New firmware is supposed to make a big difference though, and I haven't had a chance to update it yet.
I can't comment on the transfer speeds the N95 is capable of as I have a first gen N95 and live in the US, so the 3G radio is incompatible, but I will say the browser in the N95 is very good.

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Audio: About equal.
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Let me disagree. Audio playback-wise, the N95 is way better, for several reasons:
- stereo (!!!), very loud and good speakers with built-in (supported by Music Player) stereo widening. There simply isn't anything comparable in HTC's repertoaire. The only stereo HTC models, the Universal and Wizard, are way worse, both maximal volume- and frequency response-wise (I've done several A-B tests for my forthcoming Multimedia Bible between these three devices to see which is the best for music playback. The N95 won hands donw in every respect.). That is, if you often listen to music thru the speakers, there simply isn't anything better than the N95.
- A2DP quality. Doesn't really need to be further explained Of course, the A2DP quality of the Tilt is passable, but in no way as good as that of non-Microsoft-based devices (Nokias; Samsung's dumb phones etc). That is, if you plan to listen to music via A2DP and you know you're an audiophile, go for the N95 (or anything non-Microsoft; or, if you go for a MS device, get one that you can "hack" the Widcomm BT stack to)
rlpaul said:
Battery life: N95 battery sucks, hands down. New firmware is supposed to make a big difference though, and I haven't had a chance to update it yet.
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Yes, that indeed was a big problem with the old firmware. However, you MUST upgrade to the new one. You'll be pleasantly surprised. The N95 with the old firmware is pretty much useless if you compare it to the capabilities, battery life etc. of the new firmware. It's like the difference between Windows and MS-DOS. Or, Pocket PC 2000 and WM5. The entire device is MUCH, incomparably better.

rlpaul said:
I can't comment on the transfer speeds the N95 is capable of as I have a first gen N95 and live in the US, so the 3G radio is incompatible, but I will say the browser in the N95 is very good.
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In the US, you get EDGE only - unless you get the N95-3 or the N95 8G-3, which is stated to reach the States soon. This means no for example video calls and (depending on your wireless operator, somewhat) reduced transfer speeds.

rlpaul said:
GPS: Kaiser comes out ahead... getting a lock is easier/faster, plus you could always hook up an external antenna (not that I ever would).
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Did you open the dialpad to get a more reliable lock as is also recommended in the manual? Do you have firmware version v11 or v12? If the latter, did you enable assisted GPS? With the latter, particularly with v20, I get a lock in 10-20-30 seconds most of the time (depending on the weather conditions). Without it, it's indeed painfully slow.

Menneisyys said:
In the US, you get EDGE only - unless you get the N95-3 or the N95 8G-3, which is stated to reach the States soon. This means no for example video calls and (depending on your wireless operator, somewhat) reduced transfer speeds.
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Yeah I bought the N95 -3 North American Version and it just got to my house. How do I know if I got the old firmware or the new firmware? I guess I should start looking for symbian forums.
Thanks you all again.
-McMex

mcmexican said:
Yeah I bought the N95 -3 North American Version and it just got to my house. How do I know if I got the old firmware or the new firmware? I guess I should start looking for symbian forums.
Thanks you all again.
-McMex
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The N95-3 already has the a firmware - it's the N95-1 (the non-American version) that used to have a much worse one.

Just sold my kaiser

Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.

how much you sell it for? I'm selling mine so i can get the Crackberry Bold.

yea
i'm curious

sold it to my roomate for 200

HAW Haw!!! Your roomate got sloppy seconds!

sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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How could you do that to us!? I thought what we had was special
Good luck with your G1 man!

sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?

udi1 said:
Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?
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Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.

$200?!?!?
Jeez - I paid $50 for it new at AT&T last November when it came out (gotta LOVE those rebates).

NuShrike said:
Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.
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I wonder how it performs as far as smooth video playback is concerned (compared to the Kaiser using Windows Pocket Media Player 10.3). Not because I'm interested in getting a G1 (just like the Touch Pro, I believe it doesn't have the tilting screen of the TyTN II) but because I want to know just what the hardware is capable of in terms of processing power when proper drivers are used.

sold my tytn II also
It never worked as i hoped and expected. . .
my old ipaq 2210 did a better job showing video's and recorded tv shows.
that 's one big reason to sell for me.
the lag when ending a phonecall and screen rotating with sms did the rest.
I like the looks of the new touch HD but that seems also lagging and is not able to play video in its native resolution so it looks like more of the same but then in a higher resolution.
calling it HD and not been able to play native resolution video?
i lost my confidence in HTC for their lack in proper 2D and 3D drivers with my TYTN II, and will not travel the same road with their HD. . . . . .
A standard gsm will do for now, awaiting newer OS and Hardware.
XDA rocks tho!