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So I was sitting in class hoping to fire up Slingplayer on my stock AT&T Tilt and see what was on TV at home but no dice. Then on the way to the car I tried firing up Google Maps and again, no dice. Neither app seemed to think I was connected. Then when I got home (I live down the street from school) I tried sending & receiving my POP & IMAP accounts and again, nothing. However, this whole time, I have been able to get online with PIE just fine. I can browse to whichever web site I choose. Oh, and I tried using Opera and it wouldn't work, either! I'm really confused. And to top it off I just tried the wife's Blackjack and it is having the same exact problems. I know this may be the wrong forum for this but does anyone know what might be going on behind the scenes??
Having the same problem here in Sacramento. It started sometime late this afternoon for me. PIE works just fine but nothing else can connect to the Internet - Live Search, Google maps, Opera mini, RSS Hub, etc.
Same thing just happened to mine and my wife's tilts, simultaneously. PIE works, nothing else can connect to the Internet.. Not Opera, not Garmin XT, not HTC weather, nothing. WTF? Has AT&T done something? BTW, I'm in Portland, Oregon.
Having zero luck getting online here as well, was working at 6:30P in Seattle, and no connection (incl PIE) now...Just updated my ROM so having a network outage actually is a better outcome than self-inflicted phone bricking Any ATT page on network availability or anything?
I am down in Los Angeles, and am also not able to download any data on neither 3G nor Edge since late Tuesday (Feb 5, 2008) afternoon.
Same here except I can't get online at all with any program... maybe a problem with ATT network?
yeah i just experienced this today as well. I can only get online with the proxy settings, but when i disable it, its a no go! dammnit, and i cant do slingplayer with the proxy settings! I think its definitely an att network issue!
Mine's down in San Diego. At least it isn't just me... or is that not a good thing?
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Mine's down in San Diego. At least it isn't just me... or is that not a good thing?
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curiuos, what data plan do you have??
Could this be an attempt by ATT to prevent Internet sharing and force us to pay for tethering? If PIE still works, but everything else has dropped dead, is that a deliberate change by ATT? Anyone know enough to know if that's possible?
They are probably redirecting somethings to open of the connection ways. I have been having problems, but with a few apps I can run opera and Windows live but not resco update or resco radio or skype and some others. I was having major problems last night with connection problems, it was jumping from no service to Edge to G.
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Could this be an attempt by ATT to prevent Internet sharing and force us to pay for tethering? If PIE still works, but everything else has dropped dead, is that a deliberate change by ATT? Anyone know enough to know if that's possible?
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well, thats what im trying to troubleshoot now, Ive notice that im only able to get on when im connected thru att's proxy setting, but when i disable it, i cant get on at all. I have the mediawork data plan, so i wanna see if they are forcing people with a non pda plan to go thru the proxy to be connected!
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They are probably redirecting somethings to open of the connection ways. I have been having problems, but with a few apps I can run opera and Windows live but not resco update or resco radio or skype and some others. I was having major problems last night with connection problems, it was jumping from no service to Edge to G.
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what data plan do you have tito???
This one:http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1160058&catId=cat1360001
Why?
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I have the mediawork data plan, so i wanna see if they are forcing people with a non pda plan to go thru the proxy to be connected!
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I have the PDA Personal plan, but always disabled (unchecked) the proxy server option. I do not know the proxy server address, so I cannot test if my data download is restored if the proxy server option is enabled.
In case anyone's wondering I have the PDA Unlimited plans w/ 1500 text messages on both my Tilt & Blackjack. Haven't changed any settings yet and to be honest I'm too lazy to try and mess with it at the moment...
My plan is PDA personal. (Unlimited data) I don't think I have any proxys set. ( I soft reset after initial setup before the ATT customizations installed.) Everything worked great until our two tilts stopped accessing the internet simultaneously this evening. Except of course for PIE, which still works fine on both devices.
What is the proxy server setting for ATT...mine is off as well, and have never played with it to turn it on or off before...
Unlike the rest of you, Pocket Internet Explorer does not go online for me.
I have the settings in my Signature if anyone hasn't looked. Why whats so big about my data plan princeasi?
I'm not sure what it is, but for some reason some of the programs are not connecting to the internet on my tilt. i'm running the q-mobile tilt rom, and the only thing that is connecting to the medianet is palringo. i can't access the new w/ windows live or internet explorer. any idea what it could be?
no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
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no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
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Hi dude
more info plz!! I didn't well undertand your problem!
Are you trying to connect by your Pravider Data Connection (GPRS/HSDPA) or by WiFi??!!
sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
ok...not much progress, but i guess this is a start. instead of getting an error message when i try to open a page w/ IE, in the status bar it says "Locating..." "Opening...", "0 Kb"...then it just stops, and nothing loads up. I'm stumped
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sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
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First of all sorry, but i'm not American, so correct me if i'm wrong: "ATT Wireless" is your Phone Provider, right? and you are trying to connect to internet using the Provider Data Connection and not Wi-Fi, e.g. through your home router (Wi-Fi = Wireless but not "ATT Wireless", names coincidence!!! ), right? if this is correct, you didn't answer me to the above-mentioned question (using Provider Data or Wi-Fi??)!!
So try to set this Windows options:
Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections -> Advanced Tab -> Networks Selection -> than select in the two options your Internet Provider service, more ,if you need, under the both tweak keys you can edit it, like proxy settings!
Hope to well undertand your problem!
Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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...ok, we misunderstanding, or better,i didn't well understand you!
However give a look here , maybe it helps you!
Ciao
its ok, no problem at all. thanx for the link but that didnt' work either.i really dont know whats going on with my phone, the internet worked flawlessly for the first 2 weeks i had my phone, then it just stopped working yesterday. well, it stopped working for every other program except for palringo, and i'm almost certain that it is not sms based, so i dont understand why that would work, and not other programs.
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ok, so i tried using the media new gprs connection with my 8125, same situation. i'm not sure what on earth it could be, but w/e it is, i can use palingro and aim pocket pc on my tilt, but i just can't get any data from web or anything else. go figure. i think i'm just gonna let give it up for the day, i've been working on it for 8 hours. maybe take a look at it again this weekend, i dont HAVE to have the net until monday, but even then i can still use wifi until i get this sorted out.
ok, so it looks like just about everything is working now on my phone except internet explorer while connected to the AT&T wireless EDGE/3G connection. I can download the maps while connected to Windows Live GPS, i'm able to sign on and chat while using agile messenger, i can download emails on the go with my outlook mailbox.
The only thing that is giving me a problem still is internet explorer/opera mobile. Anytime i type in a page it says "locating...", "opening..." "0 KB" while using IE then it just stops there and doesn't load a thing, and when using opera is says no connection detected. Anybody know what this could be? I dont see anywhere in IE or opera where you can change browser settings as far as connectivity...
very similar problem
Hi,
I'm having a very similar problem. I have an HTC TYTN II unlocked. It has worked beautifully for a couple of months and suddenly PIE would not work. It says Connecting...Locating...Opening and then hangs in there for a while until it error outs with "the connection has been lost"
I'm on T-Mobile full internet plan. The ROM is original stock ROM (UK). Curiously, the "push" emails continues to work, but PIE does not. I can't login to Live messenger either.
I have reset the phone to factory settings to no avail. I have called T-Mobile and they say my account is okay.
Any idea? This is really weird.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
elkavayo, where are you located? I am having the same problem today & I am in south florida. I just got off the phone with a T-Mobile tech & he tried something and said it appeared to be a network problem - not a phone issue. Wi-fi is working fine.
weebo523
I'm located in South Florida too, Miami to be precise. Those were my thoughts initially, but I called T-Mobile and they told me that there were no outages or network problems. This has been happening to me since Wednesday 8:00 AM.
Additionally, I swap SIMs with a friend, who also have T-Mobile, and configured his phone (HTC Touch unlocked) to use T-Mo full internet and it worked on his phone with my account!
My wide and daughter (Dash and T-Mo SDA) can also connect to thye net normally with their phones, so I don't think it is the service. Mine doesn't work with neither full nor T-zones. It does work with Wi-Fi though.
The mystery continues... thanksfor sharing your story. Hopefully we'll find a "cure" soon. I've beenthinking about "upgrading" to 6.1.....
i have the same problem with an unlocked Tilt running on my Rogers network.
all my messaging apps work but not Internet Explorer.
I'm in Fort Lauderdale and just had the same problem .. I have TWO 8525's (TyTn) on T-Mobile and also a Wing with T-Mobile, whats weird, is that both 8525's are having the problem, whereas the Wing is working fine.
There is definately an issue right now with South Florida and t-mobile.
elkavayo & vr24, this is strange. It seems to be happening exclusively to the Tilt / TyTn & in South Florida with one Rogers. And it seems like very few of us have the problem. I am usually pretty good at trouble shooting but this has me stumped.
totally, I have tried tons of settings, everything I can come up with, used their Data Configurator, I've tried 3 different ROMs, including Win Mo 6.1, and even on the TyTn forum, people with the 8525 in other parts of the country aren't having the issue.
It's really messed up, and as I said, my Wing works fine, lol... but I want my TyTn as the wing is having other malfunctions. the only problem is, how can you argue it's the network when one phone works and the other doesn't. there is SOMETHING that changed on the network though that is not accepting something with the tytn, in just our area, lol.. obviously. Just no idea what it is.
vr24 - at least you saved me the trouble of trying different ROMs, which I was just about to do I did try going to a backup with no luck. Do you think that something could have gone bad in the phone that connects us through GPRS?
I guess I will have to sleep on this for now. Hope you or someone figures this out while I'm sleeping - VBG
Lol... don't count on me too much to figure this one out. It's quite the nightmare really. And it's a shame. I just purchased my 2 Hermes and was thrilled to have them and they were working, now I have very expensive bricks basically!!!
Anyways, help would be awesome to anyone out there willing to continue troubleshooting this.
Well I have some "good" news... I'll be heading from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles this coming Wednesday, if we don't get it sorted out by then, and this magically works on the West Coast, I'm jam t-mobiles balls into a vice grip until they fix it. I'm REAL curious to see if it makes any difference.
I am having a strange problem, I have an ATT Tilt but I flashed it with Alex's Home ROM. Before the flash everything was working fine. After the flash almost everything works, but for some reason the GMAIL application won't connect, and when I try to download an MP3 to save on phone as ringtone it doesnt do anything. Same problem when trying to log on to wachovia.com/mobile with PIE, it looks like it tries to go but just stops and goes no where. I have tried connecting through both wlan and medianet with same results. Eveything else works fine, I can browse other web sites through IE and opera mini (and on opera i can logon to wachovia moble), other java and non-java apps (like live search and google maps) are able to connect fine. I have searched through forum a lot and tried everything I have found in all connection problem threads, and checked every setting. Does anyone have any ideas please??
Thanks so much for any help.
I am running TOR 2.1 and also tried quite a few different roms but none of them seem to fix this issue I have.
MSN Messenger 90% of the time refuses to connect, even with a very strong signal (shows H) it just has a permanent beach ball and then comes back saying it cannot connect.
Tried it over WIFI and it works fine, connects within seconds.
I am on 3 Network if that makes any difference??
Has anyone else got random connection problems with MSN? or even better if someone here knows a fix!
Cheers
Dale
What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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I am with H3G which fully support live as I am using it with x-series tariff just annoyed that most of the time i cannot even use it!
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What 3G provider are you with? I know T-Mobile here in the UK blocks Windows Live, and strictly doesn't allow Messenger though it does work once activated through WiFi
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That's simply not true. I use MSN and Windows Live all the time on my Touch Pro on T-Mobile with WnW.
The chances are you have the proxy box checked for that connection. Uncheck it and it will work fine.
Though I do seem to be having a problem sending hotmail from my Touch Pro. Syncing and receiving is fine, but sending seems a bit hit and miss. Other than that all Windows Live and MSN Messenger functions work fine.
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That's simply not true. I use MSN and Windows Live all the time on my Touch Pro on T-Mobile with WnW.
The chances are you have the proxy box checked for that connection. Uncheck it and it will work fine.
Though I do seem to be having a problem sending hotmail from my Touch Pro. Syncing and receiving is fine, but sending seems a bit hit and miss. Other than that all Windows Live and MSN Messenger functions work fine.
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Just checked and the proxy settings are all empty, tried a hard and software reset as well as no tweaks all with the same results, maybe its a problem with 3's network connectivity?
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Just checked and the proxy settings are all empty, tried a hard and software reset as well as no tweaks all with the same results, maybe its a problem with 3's network connectivity?
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Hrm, very possible. I might be worth checking with H3G, I thought all their handsets shipped with Windows Live and MSN Messenger as standard??
They do normally but I got my touch diamond from hk a couple of months back, so not officially supported i guess.
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They do normally but I got my touch diamond from hk a couple of months back, so not officially supported i guess.
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No I meant that seeing as it comes on all their other devices you would think it would work from your Diamond, H3G dont even have the Diamond do they?
My MSN Live seems to always try to connect via 3G / GPRS - even when there is a Wi-Fi network connected. Is there some sort of setting to fix this?
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My MSN Live seems to always try to connect via 3G / GPRS - even when there is a Wi-Fi network connected. Is there some sort of setting to fix this?
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Interesting, my Windows Live/Hotmail syncing seems to do the same.
Hi check the time settings on your device or the PC you sync your device on, amke sure time is set correctly. I had identical problem before.
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I am running TOR 2.1 and also tried quite a few different roms but none of them seem to fix this issue I have.
MSN Messenger 90% of the time refuses to connect, even with a very strong signal (shows H) it just has a permanent beach ball and then comes back saying it cannot connect.
Tried it over WIFI and it works fine, connects within seconds.
I am on 3 Network if that makes any difference??
Has anyone else got random connection problems with MSN? or even better if someone here knows a fix!
Cheers
Dale
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Hello,
I have the same problem, with a Touch HD. Had the problem with original ROM, now I upgraded to Dutty's WM 6.5 ROM and still the same.
I also am on 3 (Three) UK, but I don't think that's the problem, for 2 reasons:
1 - Sometimes Messenger and Live Mail do connect and work.
2 - If you try to log in to Messenger the first time, you see that it's dialing a data connection and connecting. Then after 5 mins of spinning ball you get the error that can't connect. Now, if you disconnect the data connection, and try to log in with Messenger, you see the same spinning ball, and after a while the same error, but this time it did not even dial a data connection!
So I must conclude that there's something wrong in the way Messenger and Live use the data connection on our mobiles. Seems that sometimes Messenger is unable to send/receive data? :-S
Any help appreciated.
Matteo
PS: I also opened a thread in MS Windows Mobile forum, but without any solution so far...
http://social.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/windowsmobile/thread/da027a32-710d-4da9-a409-2ed4cdaaeeab
I gave on msn messenger and used Palringo, which allows to add various IM services to it.
Try that might work
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I gave on msn messenger and used Palringo, which allows to add various IM services to it.
Try that might work
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Dear sbonera
Yes, that works. I use nimbuzz as alternative client. That also works.
But this is a workaround for IM, not a solution.
Furthermore, it's not only a problem of IM. Fact is that I cannot synchronise my Live Mail and my Live Contacts, either.
Cheers
maTTeo
I received my diamond 2 on Saturday (yay) and couldn't wait to start playing with it. However it does have one major problem straight out of the box and i wonder if anyone else has experienced it.
The opera browser is very unstable. It triggers a general exception error from Windows and either constantly asks to send error reports (duely turned off!) or just shuts itself down. Anyone else experienced or found a fix?
Secondly the browser keeps trying to render in mobile mode unless i select the link to go to HTML, how do i turn that off cos the screen renders full screen beautifully.
A few other annoyances, The data connection only seems to work on HSDPA and not GPRS, this is a potential big problem.
The youtube client only works with a wifi connection, what!! HSDPA is easily fast enough to stream, is this specific to my device.
Anny assistance would be appreciated as i would like to know if these problems are specific to my device or just general annoyances.
Cheers.
I don't recognize your problems at all. Opera hasn't crashed one single time on me since I got the D2 last friday. It works very fast and stable, better than any Opera cab I installed on my old Cruise. Full screen (not mobile view) works excellent and is always default in my Opera.
I haven't deliberately used the data connection over GPRS yet, but I have seen the G symbol instead of the 3G or H symbol, when being in some areas. So at least it does see the GPRS network correctly. I have no reason to assume it wouldn't work there.
The youtube application works great too. Completely stable and fast, again not like any Youtube cab I tried on my old Polaris before. And I just tested, it works through wifi and 3g.
I'm sorry for your problems. I am really surprised on how great my Diamond2 is. I think they really hit the nail on the head this time. I don't know how to solve your problems, but if this behaviour happens even directly after you hard reset the device, I guess your only option is to send it back.
haven't had any of that really myself and i actually tried to 'overload' opera. I run it fullscreen an all.
have you tried the general discussion forums? If it's opera itself, you'll maybe find something there.
youtube is a bit sluggish at times in 'hq mode' but fine otherwise for me
why is hsdpa over gprs a problem? Both are for data, just hsdpa is quite a bit faster even when taking the fastest gprs vs. the slowest hsdpa data rate.
unless networkcoverage is an issue in your case i wouldn't personally pick 2G over 3G..
maybe you're simply the unlucky one, harsh as it may be.. have you tried HTC customer helpdesk?
I haven't had those problems with opera, haven't seen it crash once yet. Have you tried a hard or soft reset?
I do notice opera on the Diamond 2 is terribly laggy compared to opera mini on my old mobile. Tried skyfire and it's worse, iris about the same.
I found the youtube app works great over HSDPA (and wifi), now this version I do prefer and can't find any faults with it.
my opera crashes if a proxy is enabled on connection settings.
did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
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did not have any crashes as i do not use the internet
but when using quickmenu it always shows the opera runing.
you cannot stop it weird
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Push internet maybe? (just guessing)
cheers for the replies. I've actually hard reset the device aswell as soft resets. however opera still remained unstable. the problem seems to be with windows though as the error message was from windows and an install of opera 9.5 beta 2 caused the same problem. seems ok now though so will have to to monitor it.
i have to say youtube is a concern as it won't connect unless on wifi.
may take some getting used to or may need sending back, either way i think the software is at fault though, i think the device itself is top notch.
I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
I've experienced some strange behaviour of windows and some programs on my old Cruise some time. Frequent crashes, windows errors and other annoyances, like frequently loosing activesync connection and not seeing the sd-card. In the end, it was caused by a faulty board inside the device. After replacement of the board all problems where gone. I had spent hours trying other ROM's and hard resetting before that.
What I'm trying to say is, that sometimes hardware faults are just causing minor problems, while the device works well most of the time. Then you're eager to think it's a software or ROM problem, but it ain't always. If I were you, I'd send it back. I do understand that's not something you'd really like to do when it just arrived
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I say it's ok and 30 seconds later opera crashes. dame windows and it's nuances!!
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Tried the proxy thing?
As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
Thanks for all the replies, this forum really is bloody usefull!
I have tried the proxy thing, and was waiting to respond to test but incredibly this seems to have done the trick! Opera hasn't died since i removed the proxy. Thanks trinode.
I'm with you wibberly, can't see why on earth they need this proxy setting in there, my data connection is far more stable and opera now seems to work fine. Weird!
One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only. Wonder if this is a T-Mobile data restriction? The fine print from them does say that you shouldn't stream videos. Didn't affect my last contract though. That said i can't say i'm too bothered so long as the device itself is happy.
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One thing though is that the youtube app stil doesn't register a network connection through the phone signal, WIFI only.
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Maybe you can try it with someone elses SIM?
Damn proxies indeed. They always block all my e-mail connections. Turning it off is the first thing I do.
I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
Now, who can help with my next query?
I've tried to set the max number of tabs to 6, (as I that's the way I had it set up on my old D1,) under opera:config, and change the user id to sgh-i900 so I can get BBC iPlayer, but doesn't matter how many times I do this, (and press save settings, just incase you ask,) every time I launch Opera, it reverts back to it's default settings, so I'm stuck with 2 crappy tabs and no BBC iPlayer!!!!!!
Any ideas?
Is it possible to change the default Internet Browser to IE from Opera when you press "Launch Browser"?
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I too had the opera crash problem, but after ttrying to get hotmail to work in TouchFlo natively by turning off the Proxy settings, I've killed two birds with one stone... Stable Opera + Hotmail in TF3D! Wohoo.
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Well, this didn't sort the problem for me. I don't use a proxy. I get the error when rss heb notify is on and it notifies for new updates. Wether I press OK or cancel there it gives the shell32.exe error.
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As Trinode says you really do want to turn off the proxy setting within the connections page of WM itself. T-Mobile, for example, always adds the useless proxy setting which will almost certainly crash Opera when you look at Gmail.
Why oh why does the connection wizard still insist on adding a proxy when you clearly don't need it?
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Just to reiterate the above. I received my TD2 today on T-Mobile from mobilephonesdirect.com and Opera was a crashfest until I removed the proxy setting. IT IS A MUST DO SETTING CHANGE!
HTH
Tony