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Which software to use?
In my humble opinion: None......for the Qualcomm there is no software availalble to overclock it....but in time it will come...
try this out guys. application specific.
All this seems to be doing is to change the priority of the threads running certain applications. It does not overclock the CPU like OMAP did.
anyway does this work?
or its like the sktools optimization?
Any progress out there on a safe program to overclock a Kaiser? WM6 is definitely faster than WM5, but alot slower than my old Palm OS Treos.
thanks,
d
I'm also waiting for a piece of software that will allow me to overclock my Kaiser, but still there is no progress at all. As they say - patience is gods' virtue (-:
has anyone tried htc performance?
I believe I read helmi had a hand in creating it???I know this has been used on a few different devices and is very low on batti draw but no one quite knows how it works.Really makes a difference on my device but Im not sure if it would be safe to use or even work with the proccessor on the kaiser.
With the battery life as borderline as it is with the Tilt/Kaiser, I'd shy away from overclocking. You'll get lightening fast speed for the 5 minutes of battery life
ya but...
ya but... with the video drivers we're missing and an overclocker the phone would be lightning quick.Also I was reading that the reality is with the right programmers the next gen phones kaiser , dream and a few others a playstation 2 emulator on the ppc would be possible. imagine being on a plane cut off 3g and phone functions and play ps2 games on your phone. plus with extended and/or extra batteries that are now becoming available...
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
punkhawaiian said:
I do not see the logic. The Kaiser is so fast and has so much memory, why would you risk bricking or prematurely damaging your phone? Just my opinion
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Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
The prophet is slower in my opinion, I don't own a Kaiser, but whenever i use it everything happens faster than on my overclocked WM6 Prophet (overclocked to 286MHz normally).
How does the speed compare to the TyTN, mine should be here on Wednesday... I can't wait!
someone found a tool that really works ?
WOW! and I thought we had enough problem threads on here with overheat and battery deaths!
Look out for many more!!
I upgraded to kaiser from a Tmob Wing, for that I played with an overclocker called Fl0wt. Which did seem to work BUT the battery becames a flamethrower of heat and the battery life was sucked away in no time. this wasnt a big clock speed step either. The parts just arnt suited for the additional heat it seems. plus it felt dangerously hot...like "hit the dirt its going to blow" hot. not worth the risk in my oppinion...but hey thats just me
Can you post a link to "Fl0wt" ive searched far and wide and found nothing. Please post a link.
Cheers !
dizzy33 said:
Glad to learn that my Kaiser is so fast ! I guess you don't use games or heavy graphical applications, because then you would see that the Kaiser is not faster than an HTC Prophet wich is overclocked at only 240 Mhz ! (380 Mhz for the Kaiser...). Also if you want to play VGA videos, the speed is not good enough (wich it should be if you look at the Qualcomm processors capabilities, but as everyone know here, HTC did'nt make the drivers for that).
I am very disapointed by the fact the Kaiser is not a VGA device, but even more disapointed when you see that it is not even faster than a VGA device !!! So at this low speed, where is the interest of having a QVGA screen compared to VGA ?
Definitly, an overclocker tool may help me to consider keeping my Kaiser (even if I think that at this device price, it's a shame to be obliged to overclock it to have a decent speed ...).
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Cybersaurus
Warfare Inc
Machines at War
Bejeweled 2
Zuma
Ackys XP Breakout
Shattered Worlds
Call of Duty 2
Darxide EMP
gfDoom
Fast Future Race
G-Prime Extreme
Interstellar Flames
Skyforce Reloaded
Quake & Quake 2
Sinbad Return of the Legends
Flux Challenge
Is this a good enough sample for you?
THE KAISER NEVER CLAIMED TO BE A VGA DEVICE. IT IS STRICTLY QVGA....NOW GET OVER IT!!!
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I beg to differ.
I play LOTS n LOTS of games on my TyTN II AND I watch full feature movies and I use Outlook AND I use GPS AND I use internet (Netfront v3.5) and I have yet to find a speed problem as mentioned in this here cheese and whine forum.
Some of the games I have on my TyTN II are:
Call of Duty 2
Is this a good enough sample for you?
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I have Call of Duty 2 too, and it's really slow on the Kaiser compared to other devices. You should see how it runs on other PPC's...
MACkjam said:
I am starting to believe that AT&T roms are fraught with problems.
I don't have that problem here in SA.
My TyTN 2 is MUCH faster than my iMate KJam....MUCH MUCH FASTER!!!
So I don't know what you are referring to.
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I have an T-mobile Kaiser and it's definitely not much faster than a Magician. The difference is really, really small.
And we're referring to the fact that there are no drivers for the ATI Imageon hardware. Thanks to this, everything needs to be rendered by the CPU.
Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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Hi,
Has anyone else experienced poor/jerky gameplay with kaiser?
Seems to run fine for everything else but has trouble with the following games:
VT Pocket Tennis (old i know).
Pool Rebel
Seems slightly sluggish (although acceptable) with some of the other games in comparison to my tytn.
Can anyone make any suggestions for tweaks/tests?
Thanks
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if they are old games that could be the reason why, it doesn have support for GDI i think it is. have you tryed any emulators? GBA for example?
www.sunbug.net
Thanks for the speedy reply!
Pool Rebel is a new release but is still very sluggish. I have contacted their support team as it may just be that the game is not optimised for the cpu.
VT pocket tennis was designed for PPC2002! Used to work very well on my TYTN but is virtually unplayable on TYTN II.
Will I be able to use the emulator on games designed for PPC?
I'm not sure what is the problem, but I can comfirm that the graphic chipset integrated in MSM7200 is one of ATI Imageon product.
http://brew.qualcomm.com/bnry_brew/pdf/brew_2007/Tech-303_Ligon.pdf
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
from the data sheet, the performance should be said as good, so perhaps the new graphic chipset is not supported?
Maybe HTC has disabled most of the Video chipset functionality, they have a habit of disabling everything before launch! *Shakes fist*
It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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It does also look like the graphic chipset has 3d hardware support but so far you cant take adventage of it with direct3d because it only has referance drivers which doesnt use any of the hardware. But once HTC releases drivers that take advantage of this hardware it should be one kick butt gaming device...
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Just imagine the Touchflo cube interface with D3D. Mmm.
wow, page 5, what game is that???
http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/3dgaming_brochure.pdf
looks so cool for a ppc game!
I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
Some benchmarks
TyTn 2 graphic is slower than HTC Mogul
http://mymobile911.com/dnn2/bBenchmarkDatab/tabid/60/Default.aspx
TyTn 2 graphic is the fastest
http://www.pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=442869&sid=2ddc04dc6332d94bdbb0a5dc00627b54
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I just got my kaiser, upgraded from a 200 mhz prophet, big difference everywhere except gaming. I have pocketSNES a Super nintendo emulator, and it runs OK, but when you play with sound it lags quite a bit. I thought this device was suppposed to have pretty good graphics??
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this is not because it has poor graphics or has trouble playing it, it's cause PocketSnes hasnt been updated in such a long time it doesnt even support the phone completely or support teh GFX driver. however, have you tried Morphgear?
http://soft.softoogle.com/ap/morphgear-download-5321.shtml
Yeah, I tried pool rebel too ... and damn, it is so slow
Any reply from their support?
Btw, any good game for this Kaiser? The one that is nice and fast.
Support have replied. They will be adding Direct X support for the game in future release although have not specified when. That should hopefully improve performance. I have tried the following games and they work well:
Flux Challenge
Sky Force
Sky Force Reloaded
Resco Guardians
Anthelion 2
Argentum
Explode Arena
KRally
Snails
SPB AirIslands
Stolen In 60 Seconds
Cheers
Today I purchased a used Tytn II and I have sense before a X7500, however after using the Tytn II for a while I noticed that it is somehow much faster then the advantage!
If I use tomtom then it searches cities and towns faster, it calculates the route lightning fast and has much smoother graphic when running the demo!
I then went on and tried to play chess against the both machines!
I used "Pocketgrandmaster" and the latest "Toga II" that can be found on their site, and guess what, out of 3 games played Tytn II won 2 games and one draw against the advantage!
Now I wonder how is this even possible?
Tytn II has a 400 MHz CPU and the advantage has an 624 MHz CPU!
i think the reason why tomtom is slow on the advantage is because ur using the internal memory, and from what i understand, the hard drive is pretty slow. try putting the maps on the memory card and see if it makes a difference
omar
Maybe I have the drivers in my Tytn II?
omaralt said:
i think the reason why tomtom is slow on the advantage is because ur using the internal memory, and from what i understand, the hard drive is pretty slow. try putting the maps on the memory card and see if it makes a difference
omar
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I tried to put the maps on the memory card on the advantage and still the same results! The Tytn II is outperforming the ass of the advantage!
If I had a camera I would certeinly upload a video to demonstrate it!
It is nothing like this video it is much faster and performs even better then the older device in that video!
Maybe I have the proper drivers in my device already? How do I check that?
Also I noticed that if I take a large picture I can move it around with my finger on the screen much smoother then with the same picture on the advantage, if I take my finger on the picture and move it around I can see on the advantage that it drowes lines when I am moving it around, but that does not happend in Tytn II! Correct me if I am wrong, but the lines on the advantage must be rendering problem?
Wait... Did you just say the TyTn II was actually FASTER than another mobile device?!?!
/me faints!
I believe that the Advantage has the XScale CPU, which is technically older, despite being clocked higher. I think this is similar to the old GHz battle, the 400 MHz CPU in the TyTN might just be more efficient per clock cycle. Also the fact that the Advantage is dealing with VGA might pose a potential slowdown, knowing HTC and their shenanigans.
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Wait... Did you just say the TyTn II was actually FASTER than another mobile device?!?!
/me faints!
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LOLOL....Actually my TyTN II is MUCH faster than my KJam and does not seem to suffer from some of the problems experienced by many here.
I took a video clip on Sunday and it is almost flawlessly smooth.
FloatingFatMan said:
Wait... Did you just say the TyTn II was actually FASTER than another mobile device?!?!
/me faints!
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Kinda cruel but true
FloatingFatMan said:
Wait... Did you just say the TyTn II was actually FASTER than another mobile device?!?!
/me faints!
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No no no, what I said was that Tytn II is outperforming the "ASS" out of the Advantage!
And yes the advantage has an Intel(R) PXA270 cpu clocked at 624 MHz!
If I compare the two devices my advantage is running as poorly as the Tytn II on that video, while my Tytn II is running as smooth as silk!
As I said, if I only had a camera I would upload so everyone could see!
I will try to get a hold of one as soon as possible!
Man, do you realize you are comparing a VGA device w/ a QVGA device? (which need to handle 4x the pixels than QVGA device). If you just talk about responsiveness and overall speed, my P525 (Xscale 416mzh) and x51v (xScale 612mzh w/ 2700G video accelerator) simply blows my Tilt away.
Just saw this Youtube video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pENEldRxuwQ
and I am amazed at how quick the menus are on the Touch Pro. Why is the Diamond not as quick as this? Does the latest firmware for Diamond make it as quick?
TIA
touch pro has more memory.
Why do you think it is faster than the Diamond ?, I have ROM 193 and it doesn't seem faster at all (and btw, I only have like 20mb of free RAM, kind of shows you how meaningless this whole RAM issue is).
Mine is as fast - no that roms are being fine tuned - using a beta from a cook here i have to say that vid is nothing exciting and my dimaond is wizzing away - i cant make touch flo lag however erratic i use it...
Im sorry to spoil the party but my Diamond is as quick as the one in the Video or maybe even quicker. (all tweaks applied and Cooked ROM)
Im sure the PRO can be even faster after it takes a stroll down to the kitchen!
luck fellassss
so can a similar speed be seen on a diamond with an official firmware or can it only be achieved with a coked firmware? any videos showing the speed of the Diamond UI which is supposedly just as fast? TIA
Im sure the PRO can be even faster after it takes a stroll down to the kitchen!
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Maybe, but I doubt it will ever be faster than the Diamond.
Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information, rather all software 100% works from RAM (after it loads there, that is). So, you could definitely load more software to the Pro's RAM, but each individual software won't run any quicker than on the Diamond.
The Touch Pro's name should really be changed to "Fat Diamond".
I have stock ROM .. and my Diamond is as fast as the one in the video ..
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Maybe, but I doubt it will ever be faster than the Diamond.
Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information, rather all software 100% works from RAM (after it loads there, that is). So, you could definitely load more software to the Pro's RAM, but each individual software won't run any quicker than on the Diamond.
The Touch Pro's name should really be changed to "Fat Diamond".
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I agree.
Im not familiar with the Processor the PRO has but im assuming the Processor is the same on both.
I believe the speed is judged by the MGz in the Processor. So if both carry the same processor they should have same speeds.
IMO I might be mistaken.
With the new ROM and tweaking programs my Diamond is very very fast... I'm very pleased now... and I don't like the HTC Touch PRO because is not that slim like the Diamond wich is on of the ``features`` I like about it.
With Bepe 0.98 ROM, Mine is running a little faster than that
Mine is that fast or faster too, thanks Dutty, and that's with a big pile of crap loaded on by me too.
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Unlike Desktop PCs (and correct me if I'm wrong), WM doesn't use RAM to cache hard drive information
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Actually, there is a setting that can make the diamond cache file system....
when cooked touch pro ROMs manifest themselves, we might see a difference though I'm just looking forward to how much the diamond is going to earn on raphaels drivers and software
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when cooked touch pro ROMs manifest themselves, we might see a difference though I'm just looking forward to how much the diamond is going to earn on raphaels drivers and software
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Indeed!!!
Besides if you look at PROS desktop pictures you can see a diference in its Manila, its got a diferent Homepage!
Diamond is gonna inherit much of that wealth.
Luck fellas!
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I have stock ROM .. and my Diamond is as fast as the one in the video ..
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Could you tell me what version your stock ROM is please. Thanks
my diamond is on DUtty v1.6 and it's fast! slightly faster than on the video if i have to say?
I get the same performance as in the video with a 1.37 Swedish stock rom.
The only (tempoarary) performance issues I have with TF3D is after I for instance close down Opera or do some other CPU intensive task. It then usually takes a few seconds before the menus are back to being as responsive as usual. But that's it.
I have however applied the standard registry tweaks, but as far as I can remember I did not observe any significant change in performance.
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Could you tell me what version your stock ROM is please. Thanks
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take a look at at my Signature
Hello, I'm a Kaiser owner and I'm thinking about going to the Diamond.
Can someone tell me how fast is the Diamond compared to the Kaiser ?
Can you play videos faster than the Kaiser do (with no lags) ?
Thanks !
dizzy33 said:
Hello, I'm a Kaiser owner and I'm thinking about going to the Diamond.
Can someone tell me how fast is the Diamond compared to the Kaiser ?
Can you play videos faster than the Kaiser do (with no lags) ?
Thanks !
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I am an ex Trinity user and Trinities were well known of beating the **** out of Kaisers, and many others. Compared to the Trinity, the Diamond does a slightly better job in rendering videos.
Ok, thanks ... So does this mean that the Diamond really includes the proper graphic drivers ?
I did search for informations about that but could not find any answer ...
I saw on a thread here that the Diamond is really slow using GPS softwares, you can see the roads drawing one by one when driving ...
So I don't understand how this device can be so fast in reading videos, and so slow in displaying GPS softwares maps ...
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Ok, thanks ... So does this mean that the Diamond really includes the proper graphic drivers ?
I did search for informations about that but could not find any answer ...
I saw on a thread here that the Diamond is really slow using GPS softwares, you can see the roads drawing one by one when driving ...
So I don't understand how this device can be so fast in reading videos, and so slow in displaying GPS softwares maps ...
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I never experienced that GPS issue. I believe it might have been something with a specific app or settings.
Diamond has different chip than Kaiser so it is not correct to say that Diamond includes the proper drivers. But YES, Diamond has optimized video drivers for its own graphic chip which is VGA and 3D capable.
Thank you very much for your answers !
I've moved from a Kaiser to a Diamond and say that using Coreplayer the videos are the same...albeit the Diamond is suposedly faster....but I never had any real issues with the Kaiser either
What I will warn you about is the battery drain....I find that with sporadic use the Diamond might last 3 days. I've not tried it yet, but I would think that the Diamond could not last a single 2 hr movie, with backlight over 70%. I do like the Diamond...but it has lots of funky flaws.....if I didn't know about this site and the experts here giving advice on tweaking and "new" ROMS that are faster I probably would have tossed it on the first day...
....then again, all HTC products (including the Kaiser) are not up to spec when they leave the box!!
Hope this helps
Thanks to you for your answer. In fact my Kaiser is the pocket pc which has the longer battery life other all I had before (Casio EM505F, Ipaq 1930, Axim X50V, Qtek9000, HTC Prophet ...). With the Kaiser, I don't feel the need to buy an extra battery.
I guess that the VGA display of the Diamond drains faster the battery ...
Enjoy the tilt display as well.....the "dear ol Diamond" has to sit flat on the aircraft dinner table or you need to put a bread roll underneath it to watch your movie at an acceptable angle
i switched as well, i managed to trade my kaiser for a diamond
reasons were better performance ( faster cpu en drivers) and thinner design
im loving it ( my diamond)
darkenergy said:
i switched as well, i managed to trade my kaiser for a diamond
reasons were better performance ( faster cpu en drivers) and thinner design
im loving it ( my diamond)
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I am lucky enough to own a MDA Vario III and MDA Vario IV Compact (a free upgrade). I'd say the Compact IV compliments the Vario III but doesn't represent an upgrade. Personally most of the time I'll stick with the Vario III for the hardware keyboard but the Compact IV is a nice weekend more phone like form factor. Personally (and this is a personal view) I'd stick with the Kaiser if I had to choose between the two.
Thanks a lot for your answers ! I think I'll keep my Kaiser and wait for a real better device (much more powerfull).
altough the diamond has better hardware and decent drivers there basically the same
the kaiser is basically the same expierence but more suited towards people who type alot using a keyboard
i personally like the diamond a lot more because its thinner and much much lighter
i dont care for manilla that much , i switched back to throttle launcher now
on the other way around, compared to the diamond the only thing that the kaiser has going for it is the tilt screen abbility if you can live without that go for the diamond or wait a few weeks till hTC bring out another 47 smartphones to replace the diamond/kaiser all together