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Upgraded phonepad text entry?

Firstly, may I say this is an excellent forum and a mine of useful information. I've had my Wizard (O2 XDA Mini S) for a couple of weeks and have found all sorts of useful stuff on here for it, so thank you very much.
I do have one gripe about the Wizard compared to my last phone, a Sony Ericsson P910i. The T9 phonepad text entry program is a bit pants. It's partly because it uses the screen rather than dedicated buttons, but mainly because some of the features in most T9 phones aren't there (or maybe I just can't find them).
For example, I want to type "pet.". I begin by typing 738, which comes up initially as "set". I scroll across to "pet" and then type 1 for ".". However, the text jumps back to "set." instead of "pet.". This, frankly, is a pain in the ass.
So, in short, are there updated phonepads out there that are more intuative than the standard one? I've searched on this forum, but have only seen different skins, which only change the look, not the functionality.
Many thanks in advance for any advice, and once again, well done on such an informative forum.

Funny you should mention this. I ran across this earlier today...(I had alot of time to play around here today)
Check this out. http://free.tengo.net/ I have not installed it myself, but check out the demo, sounds pretty cool and might help you in your quest.
If you do install it please post your results so we all can evaluate.

I had actually downloaded that already. It's quite good, but it's for use with the stylus and doesn't work with one hand (the buttons are too small).
Give it a go if you write a lot with the stylus, but it's not what I'm looking for. Thanks anyway.

Comm Mgr Customizing

Is there a way to customize comm manager (change from 6 button to 10 or change the buttons--replace data connection with 3G) other than using Advanced Config. I can do it through Advanced Config but wondered whether there was another way to do it on the fly that I am missing. Thx.

Did you try looking into the stickied thread at the top of the forum that has all the cab files??
There's a 10 buttom comm manager right there.

I know. I am looking for a utility that switches from the 10 to the 6 or changes the order of the buttons on the 10 or 6. Maybe I am not explaining it well enough ....

Why would you want to change between the two? The 10 button has it all, including disabling data connection and 3G?

Aesthetics. The 6 button on/off looks good with certain themes/roms. Not a huge issue. I guess not a big demand for it.

If you use Kaiser Tweak you can customize the Comm Manager (doesn't change from 6 to 10 buttons or vice versa) but you can re-order the buttons. Give it a shot.

Got it. Thanks.

... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)

sebbes said:
... Is there anyone that found a way to make the 10-buttons CommManager "dpad-friendly" ?
It's so annoying : you can navigate the homepage of your PDA with the dpad, and then start the commmanager... and there : you're stuck !
Have to touch the screen to choose any of the items (wireless, data, bluetooth...)
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Yeah, because it's SUCH a pain to point your finger at the screen and push.
Wow, it's amazing the things people complain about.

If I took your logic, I would ask why Kaiser has a hard-keyboard ? It's so easy for ppl to press the screen
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I have the aluminum case, and the screen is behind a hardglass !
So you can give a try if you want... but I'd bet your won't even bend the glass.

You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.

Just use AEB to assign a hardkey, I use the windoz logo key, double press toggles BT power, tripple toggles WiFi. You get the picture.

I'll give a try to AEB (my Win button is already reassigned, same for the camera button which triggers the CommMgr...)
Lidberg said:
You didn't say you had a hard case, did ya? I don't have one and I don't know anyone that does. Everyone I know uses the stylus on the screen, just like it's supposed to be used.
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Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
My question was not about "how could I reeducate myself", but how to turn this smartphone into something even smarter...
Even the ComMgr on the HTC Tornado can be manager from the joystick... (running WM5)
So it's a shame if HTC did remove this so simple thing as focus-ordered buttons...

sebbes said:
Like I said, why would people buy a phone with real keyboard, as there's already onscreen keyboard... That's exactly same scenario.
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You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).

Lidberg said:
You bought it, didn't you? Why did you buy it? I'll tell you why - it's one thing to have an on screen keyboard, it's a totally different thing to have a real, tactile keyboard with real keys to give your fingers feedback. You're comparing apples and oranges. Your logic doesn't fly with me, sorry. You can't touch-type with an on screen keyboard (i.e. type by feel).
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WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.

marm0lade said:
WOW. You have been nothing but a condescending prick in every one of you posts on this thread. Sorry you don't like the new kids on your block asking questions. If you don't want to contribute anything in an amicable manner, please, leave us to cry in the corner.
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LOL. Thanks for the laugh. You made my night.
The OP had a question, and I answered it. If it's not what he was looking for, then he should learn how to phrase his questions in a better way.
I don't apologize for my wording. I am short and to the point.
Lastly, some people will complain about anything and everything. You can't help that or change that.

Ok fine, so you're apparently upset about people asking for tips & tricks... Then I assume your Kaiser was just perfect as-is right ?
(...so I guess you kept the stock ROM untouched, and didnt apply any of the great XDA-dev patches/fixes then)
Anyone with a more constructive feedback, like maybe importing the CommMgr of a different HTC pdaphone ?

I have the Tilt with the stock AT&T ROM. It does everything I need it to. I have, however, applied many of the tweaks and fixes available here. I ask very few questions and do LOTS of reading. I read almost every thread in this forum looking for little tweaks to make my phone even better than it already is.
I have no problems with people asking questions. That is what this forum is for. What bugs me is people who post the same question over and over without reading ANYTHING. (not that I was referring to you)
I was trying to be a little sarcastic with my first reply, but I guess you took it the wrong way.

So then, if you said I was posting without reading anything ...
Do you mean you were able to find a way ? (finaly we'll get something constructive)
I am not really new to XDA-dev, so I know how searching the place works...
Unfortunately, neither the 6buttons nor the 10buttons CommMgr is able to do (apparently) what I'm trying to get.
Hence the post...

Well I highly doubt that you will be able to switch between the 6 and 10 buttom comm mgr. They are both cab installs and require a SR after install.
What about RemE's suggestion? Did you try that? You could also remap the PTT button.
P.S. I wasn't referring to you when I said people don't read before posting.

Physical Keyboard & Accent management

Hello !
I've got some trouble with the way you can put an accent on a character using the TyTN II Keyboard.
The way it has been designed you have to writhe the letter you want to put an accent on (i.e. e for instance) and then cycle through the different accented possibility for this letter.
So far so good... BUT what drives me crazy is that the cycle doesn't always start from the same point (making a fast keyboarding very difficult).
Would you have already typed once an é (typing e then fn+space) and would you want to type another é, you would have to type e then fn+space TWICE.. go figure...
Is there a way to change this curious way (maybe toying with the registry values) ?
That's quite annoying when you write in a language with many accents (for the record I use a French Orange TyTN II and é is definitely the most common accented letter in French).
Thanks !

I haven't got this problem, it always starts with the same accent op top of the previous letter.

Hi:
While not really on topic, I have a somewhat similar question. And this seemed like an appropriate thread to post it in
For some reason the Fn Space method doesn't seem to work for me at all. For example, I enter n, then Fn Space, the first time I press space the n becomes an N (capital), if I press space again (while still holding down Fn, it just enters a space. In order to find it I must actually go into Fn, Ok.
Do I have a defective keyboard, am I soing domething wrong?
Any ideas?
Thanks!

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
While not really on topic, I have a somewhat similar question. And this seemed like an appropriate thread to post it in
How do I enter an ñ?
I have looked through all the choices (Fn, Ok), and I don't see it there. I was able to find other Ns, but not Ñ, I did find only an ~ but no way to insert it over a normal n.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
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I remember some thread about this, you need to edit some file that contains the letters. Unfortunately I cant tell you more, you need to search it somewhere here.

Mikulec said:
I remember some thread about this, you need to edit some file that contains the letters. Unfortunately I cant tell you more, you need to search it somewhere here.
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Thanks so much for your reply. I actually did find the letters I needed in Fn, Ok.
My problem is I still can't get the Fn space method to work.

cincy1020 said:
Thanks so much for your reply. I actually just edited my question, after closer inspection I did find them in Fn, Ok.
My problem is I still can't get the Fn space method to work.
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Actually I just realize that I wanted to reply to the first quote and not to you. It had to look funny that I replied to different question then yours but in my post was your question. What a fool I am.

Different sort of keyboard issue...

Hey guys. I just recently updated my Tilt to Dutty's latest wm 6.1 WWE (4/28/08) & radio 65.14.06. The problem I'm having isn't the standard tilt keyboard fix or a cleartype issue (I've seen someone post this type of question before only to have the Cleartype solve it). My problem is when i type in a document or even a sms (anything that involves the keyboard) it seems like my thumbs are moving faster than what I'm trying to type. Its rather frustrating. Here's an example since I'm typing this on my Tilt anyways:
Red foxes jumpedt he river bed only to finda wolf hiding int he bushes. He atet hem oneb y one.
Besides my lame story skills, you can see what my problem is. The really weird part is that when i do force myself to type slowly, the text will even "AutoCorrect" itself (i.e. Ate them = atet hem) to look misspelled/fractured. Also, my backspace button likes to choose not to work, turning itself into Delete when it wants to (but no other buttons are affected). Any ideas or cabs I haven't come across yet?
Also, the auto correct hardly works as it is. It won't provide apostrophes where needed.
Thanks for everything guys!

I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.

JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Nice color Jimmy. When someone will ask this question next time, can u use blue one please?
PS:And a bigger font size.

JimmyMcGee said:
I'm not trying to yell at you, I just have a Reputation to uphold regarding this.
DISABLE XT9!!
So Search for that CAB in the File Repositories and it will fix your issue.
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Doesn't work. No, really, I had this issue before it was installed and still have it now.

Option 1:go to setting---input---Word Completion---Clear stored entries. This will delete all the incorrect words which have been remembered by the phone. After that, try to type slowly.
Option 2: Disable the Auto Correct function
See if that helps.

Which version of HardSPL do you have installed?
Try installing one of the latest ones or see in the ROM thread which one the chef recommends.

Slow Writing while typing a text

Hi, i have an unlocked tilt with
rom version pc.ultimate.v20 wwe
radio version 1.70.19.90
Im having a problem where when i type..its slow and takes a while for the phone to catch up. IS there a way to fix this?
THnx much appreciated

lggyxx said:
Hi, i have an unlocked tilt with
rom version pc.ultimate.v20 wwe
radio version 1.70.19.90
Im having a problem where when i type..its slow and takes a while for the phone to catch up. IS there a way to fix this?
THnx much appreciated
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Speed Up Your Keyboard (Fixes Lag On Hardware Keyboard)

Another one of those fancy things search would have found.

yea i used it but i didnt find anything..thnx guys it helps alot..but its still a bit off lol..or maybe its just me

If you take your time reading the WIKI and FAQ, it'll be there ..

You know I've installed this and still encountered issues like what he is mentioning.
This file has fixed the issue of weird spacing when typing (such as "I love you" looking like "Il ovey ou" which was extremely frustrating), I've still had the general overall WM "Lag" of when typing, I'm going much faster than the phone can apparently handle, and I just have to wait a second for it to catch up. It will catch up correctly unless I've made typos, but yea I think he is talking about a legit issues that the RR Speed Increase doesn't fix on all roms.
Jason

Mine used to do what you are describing, I would get 3 to 4 words ahead of what the screen showed and would have to stop and wait on it to catch up to check for misspelled words.
The way I fixed it on my device was to go to settings/input/word completion and uncheck suggest words when entering text. Since I have taken the word suggestion off I have not had a problem. It keeps up with me just fine now.

thanks boss1234! I was having this same exact problem, and I did try the lag fix as per the other thread and was still encountering the laginiess. Turns out it was caused by the word completion. Unchecked it and now it will actually keep up with me.

asrrin29 said:
thanks boss1234! I was having this same exact problem, and I did try the lag fix as per the other thread and was still encountering the laginiess. Turns out it was caused by the word completion. Unchecked it and now it will actually keep up with me.
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Glad I could help.

lggyxx said:
yea i used it but i didnt find anything..thnx guys it helps alot..but its still a bit off lol..or maybe its just me
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Disable T9 ..... search for the cab to make it easy. ALSO , HTC's ez input keyboard also causes many of the lagging issues. All of this has been covered so many times that its annoying to have to answer this for the 10th time. Everyone here is right. Read..... its here.
The little button on the top of your screen brings up a GOOGLE search window. All i typed was " Keyboard Lag Kaiser" and look at allllll these results.
This was so hard
It took me more time to write this post in fact...........

pyraxiate said:
Disable T9 ..... search for the cab to make it easy. ALSO , HTC's ez input keyboard also causes many of the lagging issues. All of this has been covered so many times that its annoying to have to answer this for the 10th time. Everyone here is right. Read..... its here.
The little button on the top of your screen brings up a GOOGLE search window. All i typed was " Keyboard Lag Kaiser" and look at allllll these results.
This was so hard
It took me more time to write this post in fact...........
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You dont have to be a jerk..as a matter of fact if it annoyed u or erked u tat much..you should have ignored it.

Another case of search before you create a new post. Closing thread as this one is obviously turning nasty and we definitely don't need that...