Hi,
When im using TrackMe, Run.GPS or other GPS programs, i hate having the Diamond on because of the power consumption, so is there anyway to get it to standby mode without it self disconnecting from the GPS?
I've tried manually to push the on/off button so it goes to standby however it loses the gps signals.
I think you can use an application like psShutXP to just switch the display off but keep everything running as if it was on. Is the same trick some people use to listen music with the screen off.
Thanks i will try it later today.
I read some other post about the bluetooth is most likely to consume less power than the internal GPS. (Have an external HoluxSlim240).
And i found out that Nokia had this program Nokia Energy Profiler, so is there a program for the same purpose to the Diamond?
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Hi guys i like to use wireless alot, and at home i use wireless to chat and other softwares
that need comunications ...
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????
cre8or said:
Hi guys i like to use wireless alot, and at home i use wireless to chat and other softwares
that need comunications ...
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????
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You could never put the phone in standby on wifi on the heremes. I *****ed when I was new to hermes and was told that is to save power. I dont remember about just turning the backlight off though.
Yes its a really ***** PROBLEM!!!!
I am pissed off... you cant image .....
Other PPC can do this.....
- Disable autoPower off in POWER OPTIONS.
- Toggle SCreen
And wifi keeps conected and ON but with TYTN2 i am not ABLE TO THIS !!!!!!
cre8or said:
Yes its a really ***** PROBLEM!!!!
I am pissed off... you cant image .....
Other PPC can do this.....
- Disable autoPower off in POWER OPTIONS.
- Toggle SCreen
And wifi keeps conected and ON but with TYTN2 i am not ABLE TO THIS !!!!!!
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sucks, but I am not surprised
I had the same problem when streaming. When I lock the screen with the power button on my treo I'd lose the stream. But this doesnt happen if I use scrsaver.exe from PHM. I posted it here in post 2 http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=139884 just change the extension to exe of course and run the exe on the ppc
It turns the screen off and locks the buttons. On the treo you would turn the screen back on with the center button on the 5way. Hope this works for you. Its been a jewel for me.
its to save power. using wifi uses SO much power and its impractical. I have yet to see a PPC that does NOT do this. Some "seem" to not do it but i assume that it just "keeps the connection active" and when it does re-connect back up it continues to send data, but gives a false sense of it being on (correct me if i'm wrong)
simple soloution: Connect the AC adapter to your TytnII and the screen backlight may turn off but the device will remain on (you can still see the screen) and thus keeping your connection. Not the ideal, but a 4hrs battery life with wifi on? not my idea of a good idea
Edit thingy:
Btw its not a huge bug .. very misleading topic title!!!!
GilesTheAlmighty said:
its to save power. using wifi uses SO much power and its impractical. I have yet to see a PPC that does NOT do this. Some "seem" to not do it but i assume that it just "keeps the connection active" and when it does re-connect back up it continues to send data, but gives a false sense of it being on (correct me if i'm wrong)
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Btw its not a huge bug .. very misleading topic title!!!!
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From what I read it IS a huge bug, and.... you're wrong
Just kidding, but WiFi is supposed to suspend when device is put in suspend mode, sure. But of course not when just the screen is turned off. And every ppc should act that way..
cre8or said:
I used to TOGGLE SCREN on other PocketPC´s and leave the wifi runing on the PocketPC
with the connections that i need.... with the softwares running.
So with TYTN2 i am not able to do that... everything i try doesnt work.... when i toggle screen with WIFI ON and CONNECTED
and leave the machine running, i am not able to keep the wifi CONNECTED... every time i turn screen back on WIFI does a
new connection.....
I tried to toggle screen with :
- Windows Media Player toggle screen option
- psShutXP
This is a real FAILURE for ppl that like to leave wireless on @ home....
IS THERE A SOLUTION FOR THIS PROBLEM ?????
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I believe you can toggle this behavior with START/SETTINGS/CONNECTIONS/Wireless LAN/Power Mode and slide towards "Best Performance".
I noticed this on my Sprint Mogul while I had it. Funny thing was after a clean phone boot it wouldnt always behave according to where the slider is (even tho set at best bat life it would still stay on sometimes when screen timeout, I don't believe the kaiser/tilt does this), but going into the settings and moving this slider would make it behave accordingly.
Good luck.
I'm seeing the same thing. On my TyTN, I used to use MortSaver to turn off the screen but leave the device and WiFi running. Since I switched to a TyTN II, WiFi turns off when I start MortSaver.
Cranking up the WiFi power options to max performance does not seem to help.
This is not about standby mode - we all know WiFi turns off there (even if we'd prefer that be an option too, of course).
If there a fix for this issue?
I think something could be made via reg editing, but since I don't own a kaiser...
lastnikita said:
I think something could be made via reg editing, but since I don't own a kaiser...
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Any tips where to start looking?
yep, in the registry
just kidding, check that key, lot of parameters to play with.. Their names sound just like what you're looking for :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms
note that TNETWLN1 is the name of the WiFi adapter, so it may not be the same on kaiser.
lastnikita said:
yep, in the registry
just kidding, check that key, lot of parameters to play with.. Their names sound just like what you're looking for :
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\TNETWLN1\Parms
note that TNETWLN1 is the name of the WiFi adapter, so it may not be the same on kaiser.
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The relevant key on the Kaiser would be:
HKLM\Comm\TNETW12511\Parms
(somehow it scares me that I know that from the top of my head )
I was sure TCPMP screen off option was working ( keeping WiFi alive )... after awhile ... it failed too.
sorry
NEWS !!!
this might be the solution we're looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1676739&postcount=365
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NEWS !!!
this might be the solution we're looking for
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1676739&postcount=365
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Sadly doesnt work for me. At least the green LED blinks for a while in standby mode but the device becomes pretty warm and the Wlan says disconnected if i turn on the device again.
When I briefly press the side button on the TytnII it turns off the screen. If I have a GPS program running at the time it also disabled the GPS and the GPS logging stops. I want eo be able to have a GPS logging running all the time for geo-caching but the GPS keeps turning off. Is there any way to stop the GPS turning of while the screen is off ?
No, but you can do a different trick. Get AE Button Plus (which allows you to assign hotkeys to the hardware buttons more so than the OS will), and assign a button to first Disable Standby Mode, then another button to turn off the screen. I have the PTT button assigned as a double-click to disable the Standby mode, then a triple-click will turn off the screen. This keeps the unit active and the GPS running, but stops the screen from draining your battery so much and it's not touch sensitive at that point. It works well, though you may consider getting a bluetooth GPS unit if you're doing a lot of geocaching, because a Sirf III GPS chip is much more accurate than what is built into the Kaiser. The GlobalSat BT-338 is what i have, and is apparently one of the better ones.
is there a program out there that will disablle all the hardware buttons except the power button while the screen is off?
Thanks snooginsguy. Your solution sounds like a workable one. What amount of battery life do you find you get when screen is off and standby mode is disabled ?
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is there a program out there that will disablle all the hardware buttons except the power button while the screen is off?
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this is built into windows mobile, try out "lock" in the settings menu
snooginsguy said:
It works well, though you may consider getting a bluetooth GPS unit if you're doing a lot of geocaching, because a Sirf III GPS chip is much more accurate than what is built into the Kaiser. The GlobalSat BT-338 is what i have, and is apparently one of the better ones.
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I was under the impression that Kaiser does have internal Sirf Star III unit?
Not to my knowledge, it has a qualcomm chip (I know, that's the processor too) that is not as good as a Sirf Star III. I may be wrong about that, but pretty sure that's true. Also, @tytn2user, if I turn off my screen as described, I've used it for 5-6 hours running the GPS and GPSTuner together, and still had about half the battery left, so it's not bad.
I have found the built in chipset to be amazing and have had no problems at all..
I have been testing my current BT gps with a nemerix(sp) chipset in it vers the internal one and the internal one is a lot better. Not as good as a SirfIII but still close. Will do for my geotagging needs.
Well S2U2 fixs it all up. No need to aus AEB either.
Unit locks itself, Backlight goes, GPS keeps running. Perfect.
Hello,
I need a feature that you can go to the diamond sleep mode in tomtom navigation and this application will still work. For example in riding a motorbike if you have the diamond in a pocket (navigation via voice and need to safe battery)
Do you have some idea how to config this?
Thanks!
I wonder as well. If I want to save a track (KML file) when i'm hinking I want the unit to be in sleep mode, but that the tracking continues so that I can see my hiking trail in Google Earth later. Is this possible?
No, it is not because the GPS receving unit is useless by itself... it always requires a software to read and use the data it produces (a navigator, a speedometer or a simple NMEA logger). When a WM device is in sleep mode the CPU is not working so you can not elaborate/save such data.
However if you want to save battery you can use a display switcher like the one included in psShutXP to switch off the display while the unit is still working.
OK, thank you ....
Hello,
I tried it but if you use the screen off function e. g. with the psShutXP or the AB Button Plus then tomtom stop working. So I still don't know how to switch off the display while tomtom is working.
I appreciate next hint, thanks!
i haven't tried this yet, but the thing is, after you shut down the screen with psshutxp, ur phone is still gonna go into sleep mode once the prescribed time limit lapses...i'm talkin about the duration set in the power settings
so the way to do this MAY BE to change the duration in 'power off in' settings tab, and then use psshutxp to turn off the display
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Installed the software on my Kaiser last week, can get GPS connection but when I lock the screen the software doesnt track my GPS Route and wont track will locked .
Has anyone experienced the same issue and is there a work around.
rm1984 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Installed the software on my Kaiser last week, can get GPS connection but when I lock the screen the software doesnt track my GPS Route and wont track will locked .
Has anyone experienced the same issue and is there a work around.
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Try asking on this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=424423
Anywho, yes, suspending (power button) will turn off the built-in GPS, and I think even bluetooth GPS. TrackMe will just turn off the screen, the phone itself stays on, and it'll keep tracking as long as the phone doesn't turn itself off.
I use PhoneAlarm to set the suspend time to disabled, turns up the backlight, turns up notifications, and runs TrackMe in a "GPS Tracking" profile, so I just change profiles and go.
I suppose more GPS Tracking programs are not a bad idea, just... eh.. Duplication I guess.
I used to have a HTC wizard with an external bluetooth GPS. When I used that with memory map for walking maps I when I turned the screen off the GPS would stay connected and it would keep tracking the route I had taken without using too much power.
Was just wondering if there was a way to turn the screen off on the kaiser but to keep the GPS connected and logging?
You could use Dave Shaw's XDA Shutdown as has a lights out feature doesn't turn phone to sleep.
Thanks, I'll take a look at that.
delete iclass key from [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID]
Rhodium500 said:
delete iclass key from [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\BuiltIn\GPSID]
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Great, I'll test it now. Thanks
This works perfectly.