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Dual Boot Vista & XP: Use Vista to play, Use XP to flash Wizard!! 100% sucessful!!
Hey everyone I just wanted to let everyone here know that setting up a dual boot on your computer will allow you to have Vista as your default OS but then reboot your computer and select from either Vista or XP and load either or. Load XP when working on your Wizard, load Vista when you're not!
Here is a link to a tutorial:
http://www.anichillus.net/index.php?action=profile;u=29;sa=showPosts
Link is also in my signature.
PS>> I have tried this personally and have found it to be 100% reliable and works every time!!
Have fun guys!
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I used to do this as well, but really got sick of Vista and all the compatibility issues, it was getting to be a pain having to reboot everytime I wanted to sync/flash my phone and use winavi (among other things), I got rid of the Vista Ultimate I was running and now just run Black XP...
wolvarine said:
I used to do this as well, but really got sick of Vista and all the compatibility issues, it was getting to be a pain having to reboot everytime I wanted to sync/flash my phone and use winavi (among other things), I got rid of the Vista Ultimate I was running and now just run Black XP...
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That was an option for me as well but I have an HP Dragon with a 240gig hard drive and Vista Ultimate preloaded. I use Vista for all of my photoshopping and what not but XP is only a 40Gig partition and aside from virus protection, is a clean OS strictly for working on my Wizard. I use Vista for everything else.
Yes vista has compatibility issues with the bootloader on our Wizards but for all other softwares, the drivers are there. The programs may not install properly or at all but if you go to their website, or do a simple google search, you will find the drivers you are looking for 99% of the time.
hah
I was telling people to do this a long time ago, glad someone caught on hah cheers, remember to get your XP key legally of course
oh yeah, I believe you can do this in virtual pc/wmware as well, XP fresh install is only about 1.7gb
Yes !
This exactly is what I have also been advising the guys to do.
Well thats exactly what I have done a longtime back,when Vista was first time launched.I'm running both the OS's since than.But as I have three 160g's Sata drives installed in my system, I can easily manage to have both Os on separate drives.never felt the need to partition one drive for separate OS's,LOL
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That was an option for me as well but I have an HP Dragon with a 240gig hard drive and Vista Ultimate preloaded. I use Vista for all of my photoshopping and what not but XP is only a 40Gig partition and aside from virus protection, is a clean OS strictly for working on my Wizard. I use Vista for everything else.
Yes vista has compatibility issues with the bootloader on our Wizards but for all other softwares, the drivers are there. The programs may not install properly or at all but if you go to their website, or do a simple google search, you will find the drivers you are looking for 99% of the time.
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I know, but the only problem for me was that one of the programs I use a lot (winAVI) was part of that 1%...
BA_Flash_GOD said:
I was telling people to do this a long time ago, glad someone caught on hah cheers, remember to get your XP key legally of course
oh yeah, I believe you can do this in virtual pc/wmware as well, XP fresh install is only about 1.7gb
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Nicely said. I already had XP on an old HP Pavilion fortunately so I had the restore disk but my Dragon came with Vista Ultimate... I never had to pay for either OS but both are perfectly legal Activated versions. THIS IS HOW IT SHOULD BE. Either you get lucky and have both disks already or you purchase it. No WAREZ...
Hello Everyone,
I recently got my HTC Shift with Windows Vista Pre Loaded and it always seems to me a bit slow while running many stuffs together such as messenger with Internet explorer together. I don't tried loading any other windows yet. Can someone please confirm which is suferfast on HTC Shift? i.e; XP, Vista or Win7?
Thank you for your help....
In me experience XP is fastest, follwed by W7, and miles behind Vista. Currently I'm running Vista though...I tend to change every 6 weeks or so...I find once Vista has loaded ( a long time!) it isn't too bad for normal surfing or word processing. W7 started much quicker but I had some issues with it always trying to find the snapvue modem and not allowing me to access WiFi...a bizarre issue.
May go back to XP but I really like the resolution changer in Vista/W7.
FOOFTR said:
May go back to XP but I really like the resolution changer in Vista/W7.
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Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?
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Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?
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To me, W7 is the best compromise. You have all the functions, including touch screen writing, and better speed.
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Do you mean we are not able to change the display resolution in windows XP like in vista...?
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Some of us had issues getting a resolution fix to work with our devices...so in Xp there is no standard way to change resolution. I agree with thaihugo that W7 is the best compromise and will buy a proper upgrade when it comes out (retail).
There is one thing you should know about windows 7 before loading it on your shift. It's terribly unstable for games, especially older ones.
I was able to get world of warcraft running on it, but every other classic game I've tried so far, crashes windows 7.
For everything that isn't gaming related, Windows 7 is great. But Windows Vista is the only operating system which will actually use the hardware of your shift in the right way.
Caid.
444
Win 7 new build
Are there still problems using Windows 7 newer builds on HTC Shift ?
On RC1 I had the following problems: Using or not using AERO, it crashes when accessing Windows Media Center [BSOD], also when runing AERO and button-switch resolutions.
Please if any post, say what build are you using and the problems you have.
I really really want to get along with Win7 on my HTC Shift but as much as I worked to fix those problems it still doesn't work properly.
PS: I will install Win7 in aprox 2weeks when the RTM release is on, and I want Ubuntu 9.04 too with dual boot.
I do NOT game with my HTC Shift, I use Windows for programming and stuff, and Ubuntu for browsing and some ssh. I really hope that Microsoft fix these problems and Windows 7 will run with no problems on HTC Shift
I absolutley LOVE W7 RC1 7100 on Shift, (and my PC's and my tablets, and my laptops for that matter). Any XP or Vista lovers, take note of W7 and start to migrate there
WinMedCetner works IF you dont maximize to full screen, but you can stretch the window to almost full screen. (I know, sucky, but hey, its an answer right?)
Also, I can get the bubbles screen saver to work on shift, but you are all right, AERO does crash it....Not the worst of things to have to give up in my opinion, becuase I still get the Hover Thumbnail Preview for running Applications.
As for games, I'm not your man...I strictly stick to business programs, but have not had any problems with anythign I use, and there is a long list I ahve installed.
My vote is Go for W7! The absolute BEST thing you can do to your Shift!
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I absolutley LOVE W7 RC1 7100 on Shift, (and my PC's and my tablets, and my laptops for that matter). Any XP or Vista lovers, take note of W7 and start to migrate there
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Thnx mate i am installing win7 now to my shift i am installing RC and let me see the magic
I will later also try to install win XP. actually my main concern is the most available ram to run my softwares... I run Yahoo, MSN, Internet Security and bunch of other programs....
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well...
Here's the thing about windows 7. It seems that almost all of the issues that people have, are somehow related to the way win7 handles the shift's video drivers. What this means is, there's a strong chance that anything which requires graphical resources may end up blue screening the shift. This doesn't happen with vista. I'm not sure about XP, but it's a glaring problem for windows 7.
I know windows 7 wasn't designed for the shift, however, it's a shame to have the added efficiency of windows 7 on the shift, with such a disabling exception. Frankly, all of these issues are most certainly related to how windows 7 tries to use the shift's video accelerator.
My logic is, if Vista can do it, Windows 7 should technically be able to as well, the only problem is, Microsoft isn't in charge of driver research for the shift, HTC is. And to HTC, this is of no urgency, for more than one reason.
The shift isn't meant to run Win7, is the first reason, secondly, all development into the Shift and it's drivers has been abandoned. Basically, I don't think enough people bought a shift, which caused HTC to take the "good enough" attitude towards it. They're not going to put anymore effort into improving a device that *while cool and all* is far inferior to most netbooks out today.
Sure, the Shift is a pretty cool device after you come to XDA and enable the phone options and such, but frankly, it's half as powerful as a comparitively priced netbook, and out of the box, not as versatile on account of it's poor processing power. It's been labelled as a tablet PC, and only to it's user base is it known as so much more than that.
The possibilities of the shift are very great, but the effort needed to reach those possibilities is more than what is available today.
Personally, I'd like to see the shift have a second chance, and it would be cool if HTC felt the same. But from what I've seen on behalf of HTC, this is a cold case file for them. I guess I'll have to see what I can get done on my own from China, tonnes of talented programmers here who should be able to churn out results. I'm even prepared to begin hiring a couple programmers who've been affected by the financial crisis, and see about solving some issues which could most certainly be worked out.
This driver issue, is one that by all means of reason, should be solvable, so long as there is no severe OS function which is fundamentally flawed between Vista and Win7, as far as the Shift is concerned.
I suppose the next question would be, if I did try to get a project like this going, what other ideas of improvements could be thought of to improve the shift experience? I know people would like to see BT, Wifi and SD cards on the winmo side, that unfortunately would be an ongoing effort whereas I'm more concerned with working on finishable projects during the resolution of greater issues like winmo's BTWiFiSD problem.
Any ideas, or support would be greatly appreciated.
My next step, and possibly the most difficult, will be convincing my wife that buying another shift (for the programmers to work on) is actually a worthwhile thing. She's not into tech, and doesn't much like my addiction
Caid.
444.
I like your enthusiasm with the Shift Caid. Truth be told its only Shift fans who know its goodness. Its like owning a Jeep. Nobody else can understand and when people ask questions they are simply told "IT'S A JEEP THING". So I guess ours too "IS A SHIFT THING". We still cherish our underpowered gadget even knowing its limitations. But honestly can I buy another Shift? I dont know. Even if my current shift was to somehow explode and burn into ashes I dont think I would replace it with another shift. Or maybe I would! But as long as I have it I will love it and continue to improve it.....
The biggest advantage with the Shift is when you plug a car charger into the cigarete lighter. There aren't many full fledged comps that you can charge with a 12V DC socket, you know.... I know there are DC-AC converters but thats a story for another day!
Now if only we can get a solution for BT-SD-Wifi winmo side........
Can I install Windows Vista Ultimate on the Shift. Love it.
Thanks
Hmm, I installes all of them, the most native. (Vista as an Upgrade to SP2 and Office 2007 SP2) And: It is the slowest what I known.
Windows 7 is nice, but with the newest RC we must rebuild the HowTo for installing Windows 7, some of the old original HTC Vista Homepage drivers not needed anymore.
best practice for all members here is, to make a Windows XP Slipstream to SP3, the modify the slipstreamed TabletPC Edition source with the programm nlite (and remove many not neccersary drivers and thems and so on, and build a bootable USB Stick Version with the small tool winsetupfromusb.
If work all together and have a look to the "last session" File of nlite, all people can have a really nice and "the fastest" and most compatible Windows XP Tablet edition multilanguage of all time.
Ans the builders of this perfect solution don´t need share their own TabletPC Edition product key, lets only have a look to the *.ini file of Nlite building, and many Ideas come together ;-)
Coming from Nexus one where it was no issues with installing ROMs. However life is not as easy with my SGS.
I'm using VMWare on my mac to use programs that are only for PC. My issue is getting the SGS to even show up in VMW. Anyone with some mac experience (I'm a couple of month old mac user after 15 years on PC) Who has made this working So I can start ODIN and get back to 2.2.
Kind regards
Frewys
MAC = fancy closed source Linux
anyways in VMware you have the option to ADD a USB device to your VMware machine, once you do that you can MAP the USB on the VM machine to the phsyical USB port where the SGS is connected to
Fancy, nice looking. I was curious and bored of PC.
This sounds interesting. I get the popup asking me to which machine to connect it to. But then absolutly nothing.. No missing drivers or anything in Device manager.
Do you have a link where to read more? looking around on VMWares sight is of course an option.. unless you can point me in the direction.
Kind regards
Fredrik
EDIT. Looking over VMWares sight didn't really give some help. So I'm still where I started. I even tried to disable the USB 2.0 since there where apparently some instances where it didn't work but in the end still no go.
Eh. Have you installed sgs drivers in virtual machine yet? Easiest is to install kies
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Apple being notoriously strict on following the USB standard to the T might be an issue, I don't even think VMware gets around this but I could easily be wrong since it is software that is detecting hardware but I know people that have problems with the SGS that haven't been cleared up with VMware. I think they do this so customers are more likely to buy Apple branded products and they get their mega premium due to a lack of competition that their comps will support.
So, what happens that is applicable to you here, is that the device doesn't get recognized to begin with and Samsung (assuming they test on Macs at all) sees this at some point and says F it, it's not worth our time...possibly even under the belief that all mac users would want iPhone anyways.
PS, I don't consider this, nor am I trying to spread, FUD. That's just what I've seen from other Mac/PC device intermingling in other areas and part of the reason why many users can't charge their iPads on their computers.
I setup a small Windows XP install on Boot Camp. I already had it so I can play Starcraft 2 since it runs like ass in Mac but worked out perfectly for my phone too.
You could try installing the Android SDK.
I have installed Eclipse and the Android SDKs on my Macbook and use ADB to control my phone (debug mode turned on in the phone). That's the way I have developed and debug my Android apps.
I also have Parallels installed to use the Bootcamp partition from Mac OS X. I found I could only get Kies to work (USB debugging turned off again) when re-booting into Bootcamp, not via Parallels, so I guess Samsung is doing something funny at a low level USB driver level, which neither Parallels or VMWare support.
Thanks for all the reply guys!
@ickyboo, alovell83 Yes. Installed Kies. Installed separate drivers. No effect. It is not even in device manager list.
@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
@shawnfr that is interesting!! So I can use the bootcamp partion as a source in virtual machine!? Sounds sweet! Know if it is only possible in parallels? yea looks like there is something going on With the USB thing on the Samsung.. shame..
So After getting rid of all my PCs I had to use my fathers to finally flash the ROM. A LOT easier!!
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@decepticon The problem for me with bootcamp is to my knowledge (like I said new to Mac) they don't allow bootcamp on a partition HDD. Maybe I'm just "PC" and don't really need to make extra partitions to save time in case of need to reinstall (saving all music. images, movies etc on "D" partition). Enlighten me. Come to think of it. I could remove the extra partition install the bootcamp and THEN remake the partition?
(of topic. How much better FPS do u get on bootcamp compared to native mac? I ran it on my 2010 MacBook Pro 17" and have to lover the the settings pretty much to lowest settings to get playable frame rate)
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If you already have a spare partition then you can use it. Just run through the Boot Camp setup and it will walk you through it. You can read your Mac partition in Windows but it's read only to protect it from any Windows virus.
I haven't checked FPS because it runs so bad on my 2007 Macbook Pro but in Windows I get a noticeable improvement due to the newest nVidia drivers in Windows. Sadly Apple won't allow hardware providers to release drivers directly for Mac.
That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users
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That is just it. I get this cryptic error that i googled and to my understanding it cannot install on a partitioned disk. Right now I'm copying my entire drive to an external so that I can remove the partition and copy it back after hopefully getting the bootcamp up and running.
No I know about that whole driver fiasco for Mac. They are waaaaay behind windows on the graphdrivers... But thankfully steam seems to put some sense in Jobes.
Coming from Windows I think that the virus thing is exaggerated.. I had ONE virus of negligence during 15 years of PC. But don't trust common sense to all other million PC users
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I don't know if it's relevant for newer MBPs but I did get a video update that says it solves issues with SC2.
I had some issues with Boot Camp and partition tables at first but I removed them all and did it all through Boot Camp and it worked fine. The virus things is exaggerated but common sense takes a back seat to "see me live on my web cam click here" lol
Been working on this annoying thing for a couple of hours.. Bootcamp is NOT very flexible.. But I found a way to "cheat" it.. I had to remove the second partition. Then make "system" partition the entire drive. THEN I make the Bootcamp partition. And after windows is installed I can repartiton the System and make my second "data" partition!! Messy. But hope it works. Installing windows soon.
The SC2 update didn't do anything for me. But I'm happy to see it.. At least that is a start.. I read it had some effect for some older MacBooks...
Nope.. No luck at all. Giving up for now on BootCamp. I guess I will stick to PCs for my SGS in the future. I dont really have time for gaming anyway so the issue with lack of partitioning is not really worth it
I have not yet had any luck getting my SGS to show up in a Windows 7 VM running on VMWare Fusion.
USB virtualization is a tricky animal. A device has to be enumerated twice - first on the host, then on the guest. I imagine the SGS is having a hard time with the low-level second set config request. This seems fairly typical with high-bandwidth USB devices like PDAs.
When I get to work tomorrow I'm going to try it out against VMWare Server and VMWare Workstation. I might even try Hyper-V just for giggles. Workstation has the ability to disable the set config command. So maybe it will have more luck (doesn't help Mac users though!)
ok. Interesting. Good luck with that
I just realized Mac has VirtualBox to! Anyone tried it? Maybe there is a small difference for the better in this case...
I'm thinking it's a virus that I have...my computer has slowed to a crawl and is acting all sorts of messed up...I've pulled the important info I want off of it. Wondering if reformatting and using a Linux OS would help...Considering dual booting windows and linux but wasn't sure if the problems would persist since I think it is a virus...I downloaded AVG anti-virus and comodo cleaning essentials...the computer is just acting WEIRD..won't recognize my wifi half the time, super slow to load...not starting in windows 7 starter...any advice is appreciated.
If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
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If you can start it in safe mode you can then go to start menu / accessories and choose run. Type msconfig into box that appears then press your keyboards enter key.
It will open a window with a few tabs, go to the one that says startup and you will see a list of programs windows runs at startup.
Untick those you're not sure are things you installed, malware and viruses often show up with a random name made of letters for example kwge.exe if you see weird names like that untick them then click save and ok buttons and reboot.
If you have a nasty program affecting pc its common for it to try starting up at boot time.
Another option is download malwarebytes malware scanner but you need pc able to start up to do these things even if only in safe mode.
Dave
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Thank you...the computer will start up the issue is that I will get about 80-90% done installing an anti-virus or using the Comodo Clean up and it will restart...thinking the virus maybe blocking it from using an application like that...I want to run Jolicloud or another Linux based OS if you know any made for netbooks. It will go into startup repair when it restarts and won't finish the startup repair deal
So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous...how I reformat this piece of **** and get a non-Windows OS on here? I have Jolicloud on my SD card.
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So something is seriously wrong with my computer...every anti virus/cleaning program has frozen and gone to not responding...AVG Anti Virus, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and now Malwarebytes Anti Malware...this is getting ridiculous
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Google a program called rkill from bleepingcomputers.com, download this program and run it, it will stop most processes when it's done, allowing you to run Malwarebytes.
Good luck.
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Trying it now...just wondering if a new laptop/netbook would be a better idea...I think the HDD in this one is dead from everything I've read online...just want a Ubuntu or other Linux OS laptop I'm done f_ing with windows lol
Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
(initramfs)
help???
That's sounds more like a hardware issue because your problems are still there even after formatting.
Try to run a short dst then a long dst. Look up on google on how to get there for your computer. To me this sounds like a software issue more then anything else but try it. If either one fails your hdd is really close to dead. I just went through a short dst failure on my hdd so to me it doesn't sound like hardware but dot your i's and cross your t's kinda thing. If both pass then its most deffinitly software. Try an online antivirus toll so that there is nothing to install. If you are still having issues and your sure its a virus and you want to go to linux then write zeros to your hdd. Basically its a massive reformat. Reformatting can sometimes leave the the virus on the sector of a hdd and still make your computer run like ****. But writing zeros is basically a very thorough format that takes a bit of time and usally formats it quite a number of times.
Or go an easier root buy a new hdd, take out the old one put in the new one in the computer and install jolicloud and destroy the hdd then through it away and be done with it.
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Tried installing Julicloud (Ubuntu) got it to load after restart to dual boot menu...selected jolicloud go to about 95 or 96% and it restarted and came up with the message "No init found. Try passing init=bootarg. Busybox v1.13.3 (Ubuntu 1:1.13.3-lubuntutii) built-in shell (ash) Enter help for a list of built in commands.
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help???
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Not used that myself but did a google search and found someone who had the same problem and blogged about how to fix it.
The page is http://codeabout.wordpress.com/2011/03/05/fix-your-non-bootable-linux-partition/ hope it is of some use.
Basically it would appear that by installing a second os you have made the boot sector unusable for the second one. Some netbooks allow you to select a specific partition to boot from, if yours does you can tell it to boot from the linux one.
Its usually done by pressing a function key before it tries booting but most netbooks don't allow it so just mentioning it in case yours does. Keys differ depending on model but typically is f1 though one was the del key.
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Damn I guess I will start looking at HDD's mine pretty much instantly failed the short DST test. Any advice on upgrading netbook memory while I'm in there? I know how to take it apart and all just don't know a lot about upgrading these little things.
Man things go from bad to worse lol...tried to run chkdsk and now everyone it boots it boots running chkdsk and freezes after 6% and having quite a few bad sectors. Is there a way to bypass this and get it to start with command prompt? If I buy a new HD could I install a Linux OS right off the bat and not mess with windows? Also is there any definitive way to tell without a doubt it is the HD?
Yes you can switch hdds and see if the problem still occurs... if not then the problem is fixed.
That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...
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Hmm... Have you tried to install Ubuntu? I recommend you use Wubi to install and dual boot it with some dead simple automated repartioning
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I have tried but I get an error when trying to boot using Jolicloud (a netbook version of Ubuntu) I may a different version though.
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Not sure if that's available there, but here we get pcs with no OS or DOS, and then you can install what you want
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That's pretty cool. The computers are out there it's just finding a company that will let you build one that way haha. Everyone seems to have a hard on for Windows crap.
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This is what I would do, if I were you...
First and foremost, make sure nothing is wrong with the hardware itself. The most common issues are with the HDs, as they tend to break first...
Schedule a diskcheck from the disk properties, and make sure to check the surface for errors also.
Then I would start the hunt for the virus, if it exists. Bear in mind that formatting the disk and installing another OS does NOT eliminate some virus types, like rootkits, so you have to make sure that the disk is clean before doing anything.
For a quick test, I always download a portable version of Superantispyware and do a smart scan. Then I'll download from Malwarebytes and do the same.
You may or may not solve your problem with the above. In case you don't, keep reading...
The most secure and guaranteed way of virus checking (and cleaning) is with a Rescue CD or Usb key. Download yumi, it lets you make a multiboot usb key with multiple rescue cds. Don't worry about finding the cds, it has the option of doing it for you, from inside the utility. I will go for Avira and Kaspersky, make a boot usb key and boot my pc from it to check for viruses, particularly rootkits. You can also try with other companies, if you cannot find any viruses with Avira and Kaspersky, like Panda or F-Secure...
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I have downloaded Malwarebytes, Comodo Cleaning Essentials and AVG. None of which have been able to complete a scan the computer will always freeze up and shut itself off before they get the opportunity to. I have finally been patient enough to let chkdsk run though and so far although it's taking forever it has been finding bad sectors, replaced a bunch of bad clusters and what not. I am hoping when this finally finishes it may function somewhat more normally.
If your hdd failed the short dst then your hdd is pretty much gone, dead, about to be taken off life support, and it needs to be replaced. Which explains why its failing to install programs, jolicloud and would seem like a virus.
Its a dying hdd. Go to bestbuy, newegg, microcenter, etc and buy a 2.5" hdd. Then install it into your netbook. Once you replace your hdd you will need to install a os as there will be nothing for the netbook to boot up. So choose jolicloud, ubuntu, win7 or what not and you will be good to go.
Once you done all that buy a 2.5" housing for the hdd. Basically this will make the internal hdd into an external hdd and plus it in via usb and copy all your files to the new one.
The only thing you can do for a short dst failure is to replace your hdd. Nothing else will work. Its only allowed matter of time before it can't even be accessed.
Ps if you never removed a hdd from a netbook or laptop its a little bit different from a desktop. You need to remove the brackets from the old hdd and put them on the new one so you can install it.
Also the checkdisk repairing sectors will not fix a short dst failure. That is a hardware issue. All you are doing is waisting time. Your computer is crashing and restarting its self cause the hdd is having issues trying to process the info on a hardware level, not software.
If you manage to repair all the sectors it won't mean anything. Cause if you try to still do any installs (mine going through a short dst allowed installs btw) it may still fail and any intense task will cause it to crash. And by intense i mean any multitasking could crash it. Your hdd is very unstable and os use a lot of the hdd functions. So when you make it an external to get the files off it becomes more stable because of the less work from the os allowing you to remove your files.
I know its not what you want to hear but the truth is hard to take at times.
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semperfidoordie said:
That's a good point. I am considering buying a new laptop and starting fresh...wish you could build one like you build a desktop. I want one built the way I want it running on a Linux OS. Don't really want to waste the money buying a new computer and paying for Windows and not use it.
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You can semi-build your own by going to the brands website (like alien, hp) and get one custom fitted for you. But you will still be stuck with windows7 at that point you can keep the serial codes and use them on your netbook to get a different verision other then starter on that if you decide to replace the hdd and get a new laptop. Or hold on to it if it turns out that you don't like linux on your laptop. Linux is not meant for everyone. And its nice to have a safety net just in case.
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Ok so I dabbled into some Linux and now I want to get back to windows7. I have a Toshiba Satellite laptop and i have the product key. the only thing I dont have is a restore disc. So my question is if I install a bought over the counter Windows disc, can I use my product key to activate it.
* HDD was completely wiped upon installing Linux Mint (No recovery partition anything)
* I have the product key
* I can get a "stock" windows 7 installer disc
any advice would be appreciated. thanks.
As long as it's the same version of Windows 7 (Home, Pro, Enterprise etc.) then you should be okay. But, if you're going to buy Windows 7 then that will come with it's own key. You won't need the old one.
Yes, actually laptops that coming with Genuine Windows is for lifetime.
That is, even if you format your HDD, you can still use your Genuine Windows with the unique product key given to you (Could be found on the laptop backside I guess)
ok so I checked the product key and it states its for Windows Home Premium. As long as i can get my hands on a Windows Home Premium installer disc and then use my product key I should be good? Even though its not a Toshiba windows installer?
magicriggs said:
ok so I checked the product key and it states its for Windows Home Premium. As long as i can get my hands on a Windows Home Premium installer disc and then use my product key I should be good? Even though its not a Toshiba windows installer?
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I guess any Windows 7 Home Premium disc should do the trick.
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I guess any Windows 7 Home Premium disc should do the trick.
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Actually, you will probably find that the licence key won't work with a normal copy of Windows 7 Home Premium - they are different things. You will, almost certainly, either have to make some changes in your registry to convince Windows to let you use your code on that version of Windows, or phone Microsoft and give them a sob-story about your hard-drive having died and you having no backups.
Mind you, not taking a backup was pretty silly really - a bit like rooting your phone and flashing a custom ROM without taking a Nandroid backup first.
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Actually, you will probably find that the licence key won't work with a normal copy of Windows 7 Home Premium - they are different things. You will, almost certainly, either have to make some changes in your registry to convince Windows to let you use your code on that version of Windows, or phone Microsoft and give them a sob-story about your hard-drive having died and you having no backups.
Mind you, not taking a backup was pretty silly really - a bit like rooting your phone and flashing a custom ROM without taking a Nandroid backup first.
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this is what im afraid of ;(
You'll have had a OEM version of W7 Home Premium, which is different to the retail version.
Contact Toshiba and order replacement recovery discs, or find someone else with the same model Toshiba and create recovery media from them.
Start the ordering process for the Americas:
https://www.csd.toshiba.com/cgi-bin/tais/support/jsp/serviceUnitVerification.jsp?orderType=SFF
For anyone with a Toshiba in the EU:
https://backupmedia.toshiba.eu/
magicriggs said:
this is what im afraid of ;(
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I had exactly the same at one point with my old Toshiba L755 laptop, so I have been caught before, however there is a way round it - I just can't remember the link right now.
How long have you had the laptop?
I have an hp.. came with Vista.. got the free upgrade to 7 when it came out... hdd died... got a new hdd and found a generic iso of 7 on Windows site... installed the iso used my key from widows 7 upgrade.. and it activated just fine for me
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