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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
NL4JC said:
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
NL4JC said:
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
evolution_theory said:
VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
briols6 said:
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Did anyone try to use a SIP client on the Diamond?
Go and give a try Fring. Website: www.fring.com
Go to www.fring.com and give a try. It works for me
Hi,
Unlike any of the voip/sip apps ive tried on the diamond the only one working correctly, including usage of the internal speaker instead of the external one where the whole world can listen in on your conversation, ageet has managed to create a proper voip app.
http://www.ageet.com/us/products-agephone-mobile.htm
Enjoy
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972
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thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I just tried it...it seems to work allrite. But still external speaker on a touch diamond with the latest version (2.7)
Another problem with voipbuster, when other side picks up the phone connection drops out...
So not worth the money yet
nickokio said:
thankssss still looking for a good solution, fring and sjphone dont work properly on my diamond. Too many drop outs, bad sound quality and indeed external speaker.
Will report back here, hav to hurry the wintersport holiday is coming and need a good softphone to call for free
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
Do be careful when installing wm6voip.cab.
In most cases it will break GPS functionality, which will require a hard reset.
I remember there is a thread on getting this to work anyway without breaking GPS, if you do incist on using wm6voip.cab ( i think its crap ).
Go with ageet. its such a nice app works great, uses internal speaker. really worth the money, especially to reward a company to have finally fixed the speaker issues, something other companies failed to do for... what is it.. years now? on windows mobile platforms.
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
Fring sucks. It tunnels everything via their server in England.
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I agree, poor quality using Fring, and it stopped my browsers working over NextG...
I found using this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=443972) works the best and the most simple, but think there must be a problem with the dial plan as I can't call mobiles.
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Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
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Yeah the default dialplan is American. You need to edit ipdialplan.xml. I can give you mine if you want, will work fine if your SIP provider doesn't need any special pre-processing. I use Internode's nodephone service over nextg on my jasjam.. saves me a lot of money.
I'd like to hear if wm6voip.cap works well on the Diamond. I'm reluctant to buy any phone without VoIP support these days.
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Ahh, I thought that might be the case... Yeah, I'm using Nodephone too!
I did open up the dial plan in XML Notepad to check it out and it looked American, but was needing some direction as to what would need changing...
To have your would be great if you don't mind?
I've not really tested the VoIP service on my Diamond that much yet, but it is forcing the VoIP to go handsfree which is annoying! But I belive there may be a fix for that...
So enlighten us with your philosophy on why it would not be worth a single penny.
nickokio said:
today i installed the beta version of sjphone for wm5...
Seems to work very good so far. Dislike agephone as well...not worth a single penny
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well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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http://www.voipbuster.com/nl/smart_dialing.html
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w000t u rule
All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
nickokio said:
well the best reason:
Its not any better than sjphone beta so not worth anything...
I deinstalled it because off:
- Poor sound quality
- Random disconnects
- Disconnects when other side picked up the phone
- And the internal speaker is not working for the diamond
Tested with voipbuster
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This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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All the reasons you name are in my opinion not related to AgePhone at all but to your voipproviders and/or bandwith. Also the application requires reading the documentation, setting up proper codecs, and also enabling a feature that WILL enable the internal speaker on your diamond. (Speaker Switching Option) This has been tested and working quite fine.
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Well for my configuration and voipbuster with good internet connection and wifi sjphone beta performs better than agephone
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This is not true client initiated sip/voip, but a small client that will initiate a 2 legged call back system where your phone will dial a local number. which means you will still be billed for local phone calls. so this is only usefull for long distance calls abroad.
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True thats too bad, but can anyways be usefull sometimes
And the sms option should work in abroad countries
Hello.
I want to buy HTC Touch Pro, but it is importand that VOIP (SIP) is working on this device.
Can somone tell me if it works or not???
Thank you,
That is a very good question Goose;
The firm where I work is migrating to VOIP, and I'd like to use the HTC as main line phone.
Let's hope someone tested the VOIP on the Raphael...
http://www.voipphreak.ca/2008/03/29...mobile-6x-for-free-voip-calls-using-asterisk/
don't know if it's working, but it should I cannot test it for you..
Thanks Lepermessiah,
I'll test it as soon as I receive my device back from repair (1 week hopefully) and keep you posted on how this SIP VOIP client runs...
Perhaps take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401608
I havent tested it out yet as I also have a raphael on its way back to the retailer at the mo.
Lol, you too Mrvanx?
Seem that the Raphael is like Vista: they released it too early without fully testing it and resolving all the bugs...
It is pointless to buy such advenced smartphone without voip support.
I mean, it is whole point with wifi on it.
Ow yes, we can browse web, but I can't really find it fun to use Opera Mobile on a small screen.
It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
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It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
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No need to refer to warez, please! Skye for ppc is available from Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/windowsmobile/
And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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Like i mentioned try the thread above and see how you get on, on my other device (HTC Hermes) it works a charm, VoIP was part of Windows mobile however it never seemed to make it to any of the official builds, mostly because obviously it takes business/revenue away from a mobile network provider correct?
Why present the customer with a subsidised handset which can bypass thier mobile network to make calls for free/cheap??
I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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Yes i noticed the GPS conflicted with the driver, pretty sure there is a solution in the thread.
Take a look in advanced config (3.2) i THINK there is a setting in there to stop the device sleeping as a call is made, i WOULD look but my raph doesnt get back to me until either tomorrow or the day after.
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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SIP is a protocal which many VoIP providers use, see explanation here.
Skype is a brand name, they use thier own protocol to communicate hence thier own software. the "built in" VoIP drivers use SIP so you can use any provider you like which supports SIP.
thanx mrvanx
After all, is this possible or not??
I can voip with SJphone and Fring, but they have the problem of the external speaker, but I cannot voip using the multiple tutorials here on xda to make voip calls with the phone (without 3rd party programs...)
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i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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Warez is a reference to illegal software - we don't want to attract that kind of attention as it will only end up causing too much hassle for the whole forum . See the rules for posting (no. 11) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
yes that is true, but i didnt refer to illegal software, skype mobile is free to use. i refered to ppc only because there are a lot of advices if something is wrong with installation or something else. nothing more.
sorry anyways
Guys.
Is there any 3part SIP software, just software so we canuse any VOIP provider with SIP suport?
To be cleared: I do not have this phone, I want to know if VOIP over SIP will work before buying it, if not, I have to wait for fix or other phone...
Ok, so we all know that this phone has Wifi (Xperia101). My Blackberry through T-mobile had Wifi also, but supported VOIP. I see some ROMs support VOIP. How does one get VOIP without flashing one of these ROMs?
Is there a .cab for this?
Developers, is this hardware or software? I would love to help solve this problem.
Any takers?
Checkout Fring at http://www.fring.com/ - I have checked month ago older version and it was working fine but with main speaker (not this one for phones only), but on headset is ok. There is new version right now and they say it's support X1 so maybe they fixed that.
i use fring since i have my X1 November 2008, the old version was over the mainspeaker, the new version works perfect with the phone (ear) speaker.
So give it an try it is in my eyes the best and it consums lesser battery then all the others
Regards,
cHarOn
Thats very good, becouse even Microsoft Voip works only with mainspeaker on X1.
I have just tried globe7 new mobile client for WM 6.1, it works and works really good even on an EDGE connection.
This may be good for all voip users who are now stuck in front of their computers in order to get cheap calls.
Have a look. I hope yahoo comes out with a solution for their voice out soon .