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I recently had the chance to play with the Nokia E61i and the built in VOIP client is brilliant. It allows you to use internal speaker, speaker phone and bluetooth with VOIP calls.
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
Even knowing there are many VOIP applications for Windows Mobile, I tried many with the HTC Titan and only ONE worked ok, but the problem was it only worked trough the speaker phone which was very annoying and not convenient.
I understand voip should be included in WM6.
IE : the integrated phone application can do voip.
Tried it with WM6 and voipbuster on my HTC Wizard and it's working although the sound is not so good sometimes because of the Wizard weak processor (I think).
NL4JC said:
I had a Pocket PC before HTC Titan, but unfortunately had to sell it because I am traveling a lot now. I will primarly use my device in South America where the WCDMA band is different. I am thinking about getting the Nokia E90 or the HTC Kaiser, but must make sure the Kaiser will have built in VOIP client. Can someone confirm? Thanks
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I have already asked that question some time ago - see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=322377 - and it turned out there is no VoIP support in Kaiser by default. I haven't seen any traces of VoIP in Kaiser I've played with two days ago. And finally, take a look into official Kaiser product sheets - they don't mention VoIP at all, while it's a good feature to shout about.
So basically, there is no VoIP support in Kaiser. However, installing it as an add-on from cab files might have a chance to work, but someone with real Kaiser with hands would need to test it and let us know.
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
NL4JC said:
That is really sad. I guess I am going to have to go with the Nokia E90 until a Windows Mobile device has a built in VOIP client.
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VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
evolution_theory said:
VOIP is easily installed by YOU.
There's no reason to not get a kaiser because it doesn't have this if you are a member of these forums.
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Amen !
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
briols6 said:
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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Well, this is great news! I hope I could confirm it as soon as my Kaiser come - I couldn't resist and pre-ordered one in Handtec.co.uk. ))
Installed the .cab as well and works like a charm.
I installed the voip cab from this forum, that I was using on my tytn, and it works fine on the kaiser. Hope this helps.
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I have Kaiser now, I've installed VOIP Drivers.cab and MajikVOIP.cab. Installs all components correctly, logs into SIP account, makes a call, but... sound comes out of external speaker, instead of internal earpiece!
Did you manage to make it work properly and if yes - which cabs exactly did you install? Thanks.
im keen to find out also! I thought that you could only access voip using cooked roms.
There are a number of WM5 VoIP endpoints available.... however I'm not entirely sure about WM6 yet. I work in VoIP, and its on my list of things the check now that i have my shiny new TyTN II sat infront of me!
I'll keep you all updated with my findings.
Mind you.. i must check tmobiles policy on VoIP, I had a sneaky feeling they are blocking necessary ports...
managing your voip client?
for those with Voip enabled and working, can you tell me how the voip client determines which connection to use, ie wifi or using the data plan?
I have installed Fring and it works well. Is this different than the other voip programs discussed above?
from what i understand, Fring is a stand alone app, where as the voip i am looking at is fully integrated into the phone and uses the standard dialer, hence my previous question about how the Voip determines which connection to use? And if that is automatic? ie. if wifi is available will it just connect via wifi and if wifi isnt available will it then revert automatically to using the data plan to make the voip call.
Not that this helps with the Kaiser, but according to HP, the new iPaq BM series should have the VoIP client enabled by default; in fact, as far as I'm aware, it's the only device announced with it enabled.
Hi,
I'm new to the PDA and WM phone world, and i have a quick question. If there was a voip program of sorts for a phone like this, would that mean you could just pay for a data plan and not have to pay for a voice plan from a company like AT&T? And then u could still text message, e-mail, internet and the sorts, but also be able to make calls through your program?
Hi
Most providers (certainly here in the UK) flag data used for Messenging and/or VoIP so they are charge at a higher rate or excluded from your inclusive allowance so you pay extra or not blocked completely.
VoIP on a mobile device is only really of benefit when you are in range of a wireless connection.
Regards
Phil
Hey, thanks for the reply. Does anyone know if AT&T restrict data like he said? That's gonna be the main service i will be using, and want to know if they do or not.
Are any of you using VOIP software on your Kaiser on a day to day basis that you are happy to recommend?
I see the AGEPhone software is well plugged here by the developers, but would be interested in feedback from users before splashing out the cash.
OK< just tried Fring, however it doesn't seem to like working with my SIP provider (Voipfone) and I'm not sure I like the interace.
Any other recommendations?
Hello.
I want to buy HTC Touch Pro, but it is importand that VOIP (SIP) is working on this device.
Can somone tell me if it works or not???
Thank you,
That is a very good question Goose;
The firm where I work is migrating to VOIP, and I'd like to use the HTC as main line phone.
Let's hope someone tested the VOIP on the Raphael...
http://www.voipphreak.ca/2008/03/29...mobile-6x-for-free-voip-calls-using-asterisk/
don't know if it's working, but it should I cannot test it for you..
Thanks Lepermessiah,
I'll test it as soon as I receive my device back from repair (1 week hopefully) and keep you posted on how this SIP VOIP client runs...
Perhaps take a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401608
I havent tested it out yet as I also have a raphael on its way back to the retailer at the mo.
Lol, you too Mrvanx?
Seem that the Raphael is like Vista: they released it too early without fully testing it and resolving all the bugs...
It is pointless to buy such advenced smartphone without voip support.
I mean, it is whole point with wifi on it.
Ow yes, we can browse web, but I can't really find it fun to use Opera Mobile on a small screen.
It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
zex11 said:
It is possible to make Voip calls using skype for ppc. there is a download availible on ppc warez
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No need to refer to warez, please! Skye for ppc is available from Skype http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/download/skype/windowsmobile/
And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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And when skype became SIP?
I asked about SIP based VOIP not Skype.
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Like i mentioned try the thread above and see how you get on, on my other device (HTC Hermes) it works a charm, VoIP was part of Windows mobile however it never seemed to make it to any of the official builds, mostly because obviously it takes business/revenue away from a mobile network provider correct?
Why present the customer with a subsidised handset which can bypass thier mobile network to make calls for free/cheap??
I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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I tried to connect my touch pro to my asterisk server using the "built in" client. It kind of worked, I could initiate/answer calls over wifi, but about 2 seconds after the call connected the phone went in to sleep mode and cut off the wifi connection, tried messing around with the settings in advanced config but nothing helped. Also with the VIOP cab installed it is impossible to use the GPS.
I wouldn't recommend it.
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Yes i noticed the GPS conflicted with the driver, pretty sure there is a solution in the thread.
Take a look in advanced config (3.2) i THINK there is a setting in there to stop the device sleeping as a call is made, i WOULD look but my raph doesnt get back to me until either tomorrow or the day after.
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
zex11 said:
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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SIP is a protocal which many VoIP providers use, see explanation here.
Skype is a brand name, they use thier own protocol to communicate hence thier own software. the "built in" VoIP drivers use SIP so you can use any provider you like which supports SIP.
thanx mrvanx
After all, is this possible or not??
I can voip with SJphone and Fring, but they have the problem of the external speaker, but I cannot voip using the multiple tutorials here on xda to make voip calls with the phone (without 3rd party programs...)
zex11 said:
i am ignorant apparently, so what is the difference between SIP and voip skype calls?
why can I not refer to ppc warez?
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Warez is a reference to illegal software - we don't want to attract that kind of attention as it will only end up causing too much hassle for the whole forum . See the rules for posting (no. 11) here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
yes that is true, but i didnt refer to illegal software, skype mobile is free to use. i refered to ppc only because there are a lot of advices if something is wrong with installation or something else. nothing more.
sorry anyways
Guys.
Is there any 3part SIP software, just software so we canuse any VOIP provider with SIP suport?
To be cleared: I do not have this phone, I want to know if VOIP over SIP will work before buying it, if not, I have to wait for fix or other phone...
Ok, so we all know that this phone has Wifi (Xperia101). My Blackberry through T-mobile had Wifi also, but supported VOIP. I see some ROMs support VOIP. How does one get VOIP without flashing one of these ROMs?
Is there a .cab for this?
Developers, is this hardware or software? I would love to help solve this problem.
Any takers?
Checkout Fring at http://www.fring.com/ - I have checked month ago older version and it was working fine but with main speaker (not this one for phones only), but on headset is ok. There is new version right now and they say it's support X1 so maybe they fixed that.
i use fring since i have my X1 November 2008, the old version was over the mainspeaker, the new version works perfect with the phone (ear) speaker.
So give it an try it is in my eyes the best and it consums lesser battery then all the others
Regards,
cHarOn
Thats very good, becouse even Microsoft Voip works only with mainspeaker on X1.
hello everyone i am using 6.5 rom on my fuze on t-mobile and i wanted to use sip from nymgo to make my international calls but i am having some trouble finding a good program that works hoping for some suggestions from you guys
Nymgo site says to use fring
Have you tried it?
hey man - i am looking for something similar too. i know a few ROMS have the option of internet calling inbuilt, but I have never found a good SIP/VOIP configuration tool to make that actually work.
sip app or rom
got it working had to use the audio re router to get sound coming out of the ear piece works good just tried it
Hi I had HTC 6.5 and I' am using Skype on it and its working
Try it.