Dead - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hello,
Yesterday my Diamond had died I think
It was frozen and I did a soft reset, screen stays black and nothing happend anymore.
Pulled out the battery, put it back in, and try to turn it back on. It vibrates after a few seconds but the screen stays black.
every help would be great!
Greetings!
Michiel

It might be low on battery so have you tried recharging it?

when i connect it to the power cable nothing happens, the enter button isn't lighting up.
when i connect it to my pc I can browse to the internal storage normally, but it won't charge the battery.
now I'm really confused...

Take out your battery and sim card and leave it out for about 20 minutes and then put it back. During this time, also have your device plugged in (without the battery).

Reflash Everthing

I've pulled out the battery + sim for more than 30 minutes, reloaded the official HTC rom and still the screen is black.
It starts up, vibrates, makes the start sound but the screen remans black.
Now I want to put the orginal HTC SPL back on it, but it doesn't completes the procedure.
Anyone? thnx again!

I got exactly same problem

this has happened to me twice during the past year. the screen was black, although it did vibrate when I turned it on. both times it fixed by itself overnight, very strange.
what I saw is that both times it happened after a long ride with the car, I suspected that due to the prolonged exposure to air conditioning, when I took it out it condensed on the warm motherboard (it was used as a GPS) and some shortcircuit occured.
Unfortunately, 3 weeks ago, again after a long trip with the car, when I took it out it 'died' in 5 minutes (with 100% battery), did not even vibrate anymore when powered on, and never woke up eversince. It is now in service since the 15th of August, with a status on the website of the official HTC service company in Romania (Cirma Electronics) of: "waiting for spare parts" for 5 days...
My guess is that either the MB or the screen fried because of a design issue which caused the condensed vapors to form on some contacts inside...

It sounds as if the device is 100% operational with the exception that the LCD is out. Correct? Or, have you experienced other problems? Try powering up you Diam, then shine a flashlight directly at the screen. If you can see your interface then you have a dead backlight & need a new LCD. If you do not see the image then the LCD itself is defective {Apparently a common problem} & you'll need a new LCD. Either way you should contact HTC service as you have a 2 YR warranty.
@ cocomic: Where is Your Diam on these trips, A windscreen mount or a console mount? If it's a console mount, most likely you have an air vent blowing directly at it & that's just asking for moisture build up. But, if it was a "moisture" issue as you stated, then HTC would not be fixing it for free. They would see the oxidation from the moisture & say that it's your fault for getting it wet, & charge you out the ass for that part. {That's why ALL devices have LDIs} If you use a windscreen mount, then you have your device sitting in the sun for a long time! Sunlight KILLS LCDs!!! It may be more likely that you burned your screen by having it exposed for long periods. But it's probably just the issue that many people have. If you go to HTCforums you will see a lot of people have LCD issues.

If you have warranty return it to the store.

Humblehippie said:
@ cocomic: Where is Your Diam on these trips, A windscreen mount or a console mount? If it's a console mount, most likely you have an air vent blowing directly at it & that's just asking for moisture build up. But, if it was a "moisture" issue as you stated, then HTC would not be fixing it for free. They would see the oxidation from the moisture & say that it's your fault for getting it wet, & charge you out the ass for that part. {That's why ALL devices have LDIs} If you use a windscreen mount, then you have your device sitting in the sun for a long time! Sunlight KILLS LCDs!!! It may be more likely that you burned your screen by having it exposed for long periods. But it's probably just the issue that many people have. If you go to HTCforums you will see a lot of people have LCD issues.
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I have a windscreen mount, the air vent doesn't blow directly on the device. furthermore, the sun couldn't have burnt the LCD as the last time it died (for good), it was 11 PM.
the phone is in service and has the online status on their website: "the phone is in the lab, waiting for spare part". this means that whatever the issue is, hopefully it's gonna be fixed under warranty.
nevertheless, I find it appalling that a device built in 2008 has huge design and construction faults causing it to malfunction whenever used in a car with the AC turned on...
I'll keep you posted on the outcome
later edit: update: I've just got off the phone with a secretary at the htc service. apparently the motherboard fried and they ordered a new one. from what she said only the case will remain the same, it may be that the lcd display was caught in the chain reaction . the bad thing is that I will probably have to wait for another week, the good thing is that I will get an almost new phone...
as they didn't say anything about the LDI, it's either that the condensed vapors didn't touch it, only the circuits, or the fault did not come from the humidity... one can only guess...

It may not have been condensation that caused the problem. It could be that your Mainboard had a problem that was amplified by your trips in the car. Either way, you get a factory refurbished Diamond, & that's jus' sweet. I have to call them this week about my Diam because my front cam isn't working. I never really use it, but if it's covered, I might as well make them flip the bill while I can.

no, really, do that... i remember that a few weeks before the 'incident' my rear camera stopped working, too... i never payed too much attention as i considered it to be just a spb mobile shell software issue which would have eventually gone away after a hard reset or something...
you are probably right, my MB was slowly dying, organs failing (i have just watched a house md rerun, sorry )... if you have the possibility to have it checked while it's still in warranty and have the camera fixed while at it, why not?

I'm moving this, as it has no pertinece to the original topic. This link; http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4476473#post4476473 is a post I started to see if anyone else had these issues. Read the update on the first post

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ExtUSB port seems broken...

The ExtUSB port on my tytn2 seems to be broken, or something.
When I plug it into my computer it is no longer recognised, and doesn't even start to charge anymore.
Similarly, if I plug in any sort of charger, then the device will not do anything.
In an effort to charge it, I did the following. I removed the battery, thereby switching the device totally off, put the battery back in and then attached a mains charger. At this point I got a solid red LED at the top where the signal/charge LED is. I left it like this for 2 hours and came back to it. I switched it back on and it had fully charged the device - yet I still could not get it recognised by anything.
So what's going on here - is it broken or is this a software issue.
Ignore the reflash bit. How am I supposed to do that if I can't get USB working? Stupid question sorry. Still, I've tried a hard reset and still nothing, so I guess it's knackered huh
EDIT: Replacement is on it's way for tomorrow. Puts an end to that saga I suppose!
HTC's miniUSB port uses traces for contacts instead of pins, which I can't even begin to express how ridiculous that is. To make matters worse, the soft reset pinhole is located right next to it so one slight jab of the stylus, car keys in your pocket etc and you're screwed. You may have done it without even noticing.
Flashing roms is out of the question, but you can use PocketController to make it look as stock as possible through wifi. Another alternative is to take your device to a college/university micro-electronics lab where they will fix it for a small donation or free.
dazultra2000 said:
Ignore the reflash bit. How am I supposed to do that if I can't get USB working? Stupid question sorry. Still, I've tried a hard reset and still nothing, so I guess it's knackered huh
EDIT: Replacement is on it's way for tomorrow. Puts an end to that saga I suppose!
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Best of luck, but it might not be the end of your saga. When it gets to servicing, if they notice something was jabbed in the miniSUB port, they could come at you with out of warranty fees.
I have insurance on my phone. It's covered for accidental damage anyway.
Yep. Figured that out the hard way. Accidently stuck my stylus into the USB rather than the reset hole.
If you're lucky, you may be able to "push" the traces on the bottom side of the connector back in place... only one side of my connector was bent. Then I gently connected and re-connected a mini-usb connector.
dazultra2000 said:
I have insurance on my phone. It's covered for accidental damage anyway.
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Where are you getting insurance ? I can't find anywhere.
Thanks,
DLD
With Orange! Orange Care. Has done me proud a few times in the past, like when I crushed my SPV M2000 on the day I got it! Or when someone dropped my SE K700i in a pint of beer.
New phone is here and instantly I have noticed a couple of things:
1) Different type of battery, as already reported by some people. It's the Dynapack that doesn't quite fit properly.
2) Screen seems brighter and more colourful - again, as reported by some people already
3) The screen tilt is much stiffer (which is good cos the old one was really loose)
4) MicroSD cover feels of better material.
5) Whole thing feels so much quicker - but that's probably just because I've not loaded anything into it yet.

Help! Water Damage - Buttons not working - Warranty Void!

Hi,
I'm having a total nightmare. Over the past few days my handset has been a nightmare. I was out last Saturday, and dropped my phone when it was raining. When I checked the phone it seemed to be OK, but there was some water still on the battery when I woke up and removed the cover on Sunday morning.
The phone seemed to be working OK at the time, but over the week there have been 2 issues.
1. The hardware buttons stop working intermittently. At first, the Call Send and Call End buttons were the wrong way around, but then now they have totally stopped functioning. The volume keys no longer work also. (The standby button on top is fine).
2. Every so often, the phone will go crazy, and its almost as if someone is pressing the buttons. It keeps going into Quick Launch mode and switching to Airplane Mode, and also keeps dialing Voicemail by itself.
I've just ran through the troubleshooting on the T-Mobile site, and it ask "Is the indicator sticker white?" - Mine is red
I am then told I have voided my warranty.
When I got handset, TMOB asked whether I wanted insurance. I said No because I thought I had it through my bank (I pay like £6 per month for my account and one of the advantanges you can choose is mobile phone insurance)
For this reason, I declined to take out the T-Mobile insurance.
This evening, Ive checked my banks insurance page on the website and in the small print is states:
Phones which have a primary use for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover PDA type devices. Please see the definition of mobile phone/phone in section B of the Policy Document. If you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us
Section B:
Mobile Phone/Phone
Your handset and SIM card specifically identified by the IMEI number and mobile phone number. The handset must be your property or responsibility. Your SIM card will not be covered unless it was inserted into the SIM card slot of the phone at the time of the incident.
The handset must be a hand-held electronic device for which its main use is for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover devices which have Windows Mobile®, Symbian OSTM, or Palm® operating systems or a similar PDA type of interface, whose primary function is of a business nature. The cover of handsets will be at our discretion, and if you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us.
Now, its too late to take out the T-Mobile insurance and I am stuck with a handset which doesnt work.
I am fully aware this is my own stupid fault.
I've been trying to check repair websites, but they seem to claim with Water Damage, there is no certainty that they will be able to fix the device, and it might come back in a worse state than it was sent in.
Any advice that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know whether you can pay HTC directly to repair your device? I've tried calling but they are now closed.
HTC does service but they are slow.
Try putting the phone in a zip lock with some white rice, this will dry it out completely.
You have probably damaged the electronics due to using it when it was wet, however I would remove the battery and try to dry it as best you can before putting power back to the unit.
once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
nightlife31 said:
once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
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I heard HTC sued some people for trying that trick. so be careful!
As far as rain/water damage goes...the rice bag trick has worked for me in the past, as well as taking the phone apart and cleaning all the contacts, etc with alcohol.
My phone is in for repair (thankfully under warranty) at the moment, so i'm half feeling your pain.
Good luck!
Thanks Drag-on.
Thanks for the advise guys, will let you know how I get on
If it can start and operate, the device is probably able to be safe. At this moment, the moisture in the electronic board is shorting out. I would start with using a hair drier to dry out the moisture. Hot air it a few minutes and cycle this a few times within an hour should have the moisture removed. Hopefully, there are no residue left behind by the water that is 'conductive'.
For proper cleaning, I think the best is use either alcohol swaps or contact cleaner aerosol to clean the PCB boards, buttons.
Hope it will recover.
my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
!Aman! said:
my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
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Have you tried placing in a bag of rice to draw the moisture out?
Not sure if humidity could cause this but it's worth a try.
Otherwise I would assume worn contact points.
i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
!Aman! said:
i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
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The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
Bruce Inman said:
The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
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thanks Bruce, i'll try the Rice method and till then i'll just keep it turned off with no battery inside.
Just a short update about using rice, obviously you will use uncooked rice. Also, if you have or can find the vacumn bags, put the rice and phone and battery in the bag and get as much air out as you. The vacumn will help in pulling the moisture out of the device, and of course the rice absorbs the moisture. I used this trick on a Moto Razr that had been completely under water while on. Powered down, removed battery, rice, phone, battery into ziplock vacumn bag, one day later...perfect condition.
none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
!Aman! said:
none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
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Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
Bruce Inman said:
Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
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yeah, and my warranty was over just a month ago. so its just unfortunate and my bad luck
Don´t panic
Thats´s ok, my Topaz have felt into a water, LCD haven´t works, SD slot have been destroyed.. I send it for guarantee, and they made it everything ok for free I get new button, new LCD and motherboard for free.. Try to send it
EDIT: woops, warranty ended.. Go, and make grave for your device

HOW TO: fix Droid/Milestone touchscreen lack of responsiveness and Ghost Touch issues

NOTE: THIS SOLUTION IS POTENTIALLY DAMAGING AND MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE
PROBLEM: touch screen acts erratic, notification bar keeps opening, screen appears to be touched by someone else continuously (Ghost Touch), and parts of the screen DO NOT RESPOND TO TOUCH.
MY OWN SPECIFIC CASE: I had the Ghost Touch issue for 3 days suddenly without intro, which often used to go away after a reboot or two, then phone worked normally after I removed the battery and left it in a dry area (in a closed drawer between books, no air entering, very dry atmosphere), however the RIGHT SIDE of the screen (Search button, rightmost letters [L and Delete and sometimes ENTER] do not work. If the phone is in normal landscape, you cannot open the notification bar by dragging it normally.
DIAGNOSIS: for some people, the problem is more severe. The Digitiser itself could be malfunctioning and has to be fixed, while for others it could be a true problem with the screen itself. However, for MANY OF US, it is a problem of HUMIDITY. The humidity sensors are causing the phone to act like that. Some say part of this problem happens because the way the keypad affects the phone internally as you open and close it a lot.
SOLUTIONS:
1- To be safe: send the phone to the shop. Ask them to open the phone and apply an extra layer of insulation, in case the digitiser and the screen are okay.
2- If something is faulty, replace it at the shop.
3- MY OWN SOLUTION: based on something I read many times, the solution was to apply DRY HEAT for at least 45 mins. What I did, based on averaging out many experiences I read online, was to remove the SD Card and SIM, remove battery, I heated up a toaster oven for 10 minutes, waited until the temperature was at about 60-70 degrees Celsius, SHUT DOWN THE HEAT, put the phone on its screen on a plate, screen facing down and covered by a cloth to protect it from direct contact with metal, then all inside the oven. The oven is a relatively big one, so phone was AWAY FROM A SOURCE OF DIRECT HEAT. I closed the lid, then every while 15 minutes I would heat the oven for 40 seconds to maintain the temp. This is LIKE (ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION) leaving your phone in the glove compartment of your car while its parked in a sunny spot, to find it really hot in the morning and tough to touch for a while. TO CONTINUE, after the phone was out of the oven (I can't believe I am saying this), I left the phone overnight in a dry area for 8 hours (could need less time). Then, I put everything back in, plugged it, and THE PHONE IS WORKING PERFECTLY NOW!
NOTE that solution number 3 could affect your keyboard buttons if heat is too much. It may cause the glue holding the keys to melt a bit. Be delicate with your keyboard after you restore your phone.
Again, I only did this YESTERDAY. With the exception of some keypad stickiness, the phone is working perfectly now.
I hope this was useful
B.
EDIT: Today is the First of May, phone is still working without a glitch
N.B. Press the Thank you button if you wanna congratulate me on daring to toast my milestone in the name of scientific inquiry
SECOND EDIT: Phone did it again for 2 days. Applied the same method, and it worked again. I think partially it happened because I was in a very humid location.
That didn't work for me, I had no option but to replace the touchscreen/gorila glass.
I love the idea of toasting a milestone
Thought with all my aggression against Moto, I think I just might leave it in there
Luckily I dont have these problems so I wont get tempted
AirLancer said:
I love the idea of toasting a milestone
Thought with all my aggression against Moto, I think I just might leave it in there
Luckily I dont have these problems so I wont get tempted
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I have to admit, I cared litte whether or not this actually worked. I just wanted to toast it But it did work, so
Pretty tempted to try this out, I think I will when I have free time.
My phone had the dead zone problem for 2 months now, but in some very rare cases, like when it's a very hot day, the screen will work normally for a minute or something. Then it goes back to dead part. I assume this would fix it?
Lesiroth said:
Pretty tempted to try this out, I think I will when I have free time.
My phone had the dead zone problem for 2 months now, but in some very rare cases, like when it's a very hot day, the screen will work normally for a minute or something. Then it goes back to dead part. I assume this would fix it?
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If it DOES indeed work on hot days, then it means the phone is not entirely dead. But I would suggest you do something less drastic first, such as the Glove Compartment method. No responsibility though
If you're trying to remove moisture, you could also try putting it in a baggie of crystaline cat litter (NOT the clay kind!) - this stuff is sold at a MUCH higher price as a way to save a phone from water damage, but it's the exact same substance. Does a great job removing moisture. It's the same sort of silica gel that's in those packets in medicine/vitamins that says "Dessicant - do not eat".
Or you could just put it in a sealed bowl with raw rice for a couple of days... this is the best and cheapest way (and then you have the silicon "grains", the ones that you find in shoe boxes or computer parts boxes).
Sent from my Milestone using Tapatalk
CybeRNerO said:
Or you could just put it in a sealed bowl with raw rice for a couple of days... this is the best and cheapest way (and then you have the silicon "grains", the ones that you find in shoe boxes or computer parts boxes).
Sent from my Milestone using Tapatalk
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Pretty sure that rice doesn't do anything, I don't know how that started as a suggestion, but its not better than anything else; its not known to be absorbant, but the silicon is.
I've tried the method but the right segment of the digitizer still doesn't work.
My biggest issue with regards to "lack of responsiveness" are the 4 capacitive buttons. Pressing the Home key is always hit and miss. I know I hit it all the time because I can feel the vibration feedback but it only goes to homescreen 50% of the time.
Will also be testing this out as soon as I have the spare time. My screen started acting up after I accidentally put my milestone in a small beer spill at a party Hopefully this will work out for me too!
Abazel said:
I've tried the method but the right segment of the digitizer still doesn't work.
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Luckily for me, I was still under warranty, heh. Cause I had insurance. This is my second Droid this has happened to. Hopefully my replacement won't do the same thing.
How many times did you reheat the oven? I tried just once and it didn't help. My phone has been having this problem since January.
decon89 said:
How many times did you reheat the oven? I tried just once and it didn't help. My phone has been having this problem since January.
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I feel I am on a cooking show
Well, depends on your over. Mainly I was trying to maintain a temp varying between 50-60 c. Mostly 50, but sometimes 60 to up the ante a bit and make sure things stay warm. 30 minutes at least. However, I have to say that I did this twice in 6 weeks, and after that the phone just died again, and I found my warranty card and sent it there to be fixed, and they fixed it, but ruined something else.
If you have the warranty card, take your phone and send it to them Someone told me the method worked and the phone has been good for quite a while, but most of us seem to re-experience the issue after a while.
I've been having these issues for a few days now too, and I think I know why. I've been using this Milestone for 4 months now, and I never had this problem until a few days ago. What I noticed yesterday was that after some acting up, the phone started working properly again. So I ran Touch Test. And I noticed that if I pressed really hard on the top side of the phone(where the logo and the ear piece are located) it started acting up again. My first impression was that the glue holding down the gorilla glass was loose. So I left the phone as usual on my night stand and then I tried the same thing with the pressing on the same area. Guess what? It didn't happen again. Now there seems to be no problem. So I tried to remember what happened yesterday before the screen started acting up, and I remember talking to my wife for a while when I was in my car. Yesterday was a pretty hot day and I was a little sweaty when I talked to her. Now since only that specific part with the earpiece was causing this issue(I tried pressing equally hard on other areas without any problem my guess is that the insulation between the earpiece and the touchscreen has been breached. Maybe because of all the sweat that went in there in time. You know the salt and acids in the swear are known to melt things, and poor quality glue is among them.
How to fix this? I do not know yet, but I do have a good idea that I'd like to share. I want to buy a screen protector foil, and put just a little band around the ear piece. That would probably lower my in-call volume, but since the Milestone is very loud anyway I hope it the quality of the calls won't be too much affected. After that I'll use it in normal conditions again and see if the ghosting happens again.
try completely formatting your SD CARD/PARTITION.
& then reinstalling using (FAT 32/EXT 2, 3, or 4)
sometimes traces from the previous ROM might interfare with touch codecs (maybe)
just trying to help. had similar issue & this is what i did.
bandroid842 said:
NOTE: THIS SOLUTION IS POTENTIALLY DAMAGING AND MAY NOT WORK FOR EVERYONE
PROBLEM: touch screen acts erratic, notification bar keeps opening, screen appears to be touched by someone else continuously (Ghost Touch), and parts of the screen DO NOT RESPOND TO TOUCH.
MY OWN SPECIFIC CASE: I had the Ghost Touch issue for 3 days suddenly without intro, which often used to go away after a reboot or two, then phone worked normally after I removed the battery and left it in a dry area (in a closed drawer between books, no air entering, very dry atmosphere), however the RIGHT SIDE of the screen (Search button, rightmost letters [L and Delete and sometimes ENTER] do not work. If the phone is in normal landscape, you cannot open the notification bar by dragging it normally.
DIAGNOSIS: for some people, the problem is more severe. The Digitiser itself could be malfunctioning and has to be fixed, while for others it could be a true problem with the screen itself. However, for MANY OF US, it is a problem of HUMIDITY. The humidity sensors are causing the phone to act like that. Some say part of this problem happens because the way the keypad affects the phone internally as you open and close it a lot.
SOLUTIONS:
1- To be safe: send the phone to the shop. Ask them to open the phone and apply an extra layer of insulation, in case the digitiser and the screen are okay.
2- If something is faulty, replace it at the shop.
3- MY OWN SOLUTION: based on something I read many times, the solution was to apply DRY HEAT for at least 45 mins. What I did, based on averaging out many experiences I read online, was to remove the SD Card and SIM, remove battery, I heated up a toaster oven for 10 minutes, waited until the temperature was at about 60-70 degrees Celsius, SHUT DOWN THE HEAT, put the phone on its screen on a plate, screen facing down and covered by a cloth to protect it from direct contact with metal, then all inside the oven. The oven is a relatively big one, so phone was AWAY FROM A SOURCE OF DIRECT HEAT. I closed the lid, then every while 15 minutes I would heat the oven for 40 seconds to maintain the temp. This is LIKE (ALTERNATIVE SOLUTION) leaving your phone in the glove compartment of your car while its parked in a sunny spot, to find it really hot in the morning and tough to touch for a while. TO CONTINUE, after the phone was out of the oven (I can't believe I am saying this), I left the phone overnight in a dry area for 8 hours (could need less time). Then, I put everything back in, plugged it, and THE PHONE IS WORKING PERFECTLY NOW!
NOTE that solution number 3 could affect your keyboard buttons if heat is too much. It may cause the glue holding the keys to melt a bit. Be delicate with your keyboard after you restore your phone.
Again, I only did this YESTERDAY. With the exception of some keypad stickiness, the phone is working perfectly now.
I hope this was useful
B.
EDIT: Today is the First of May, phone is still working without a glitch
N.B. Press the Thank you button if you wanna congratulate me on daring to toast my milestone in the name of scientific inquiry
SECOND EDIT: Phone did it again for 2 days. Applied the same method, and it worked again. I think partially it happened because I was in a very humid location.
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Thank you for that Solution.
It fixed the Issue of my friends MS without other problems
I'll have to try and the oven methode again. My phone has started to really act up again.
I've tried to install new roms, wipe ect. and it doesn't help with the screen.
Have anyone tried to replace the digiziter? They are pretty cheap on ebay
My milestone started freaking out just an hour ago. No more warranty here but I'm not brave enough to do the oven method. Had anybody tried the Rice alternative?

[Help] Motorola Droid parts of touch screen unresponsive.

So basically I've had my Droid 1 since March of 2010, I LOVE my phone. Today I was out in the sun, and it just started freaking out, I put it on a table from my cool pocket for literally 4 minutes. Now two things are happening:
the soft key search button has stopped working(keyboard one still works), and the place where the back button is on my soft keyboard is borked.
Is there anything I can try/do to possibly attempt to fix the problem? I've never run into an issue like this before. :/
okay... so I gave it to my brother to look at and suddenly it's working again...
Is there anything that could cause this?
We don't really know what causes the touchscreen issue but we suspect that the moisture is the main problem. Also, a defective or improper charging or a bad flex cable can lead to something like that. I am facing exactly the same problem (paradoxally, after flashing a new ROM - coincidence maybe) but here it didn't dissappear. I will replace the digitizer. I think it's the only way to get rid of it. If it shows up again, I'm sorry!
When do you plan to change out your digitizer? If anything I'd love to see your results before I go for it.
Oh the joys of being a broke college student.
The same problem happened to my D1!! If it re-occurs then it means that your digitizer has broken. The only solution is to replace it or buy a new phone (If you do a search on "Droid" and "digitizer" you will find many people who have had this same problem)
I researched repair stores and finally settled on a place called Mission Repair in KS (missionrepair.com). Sent my precious Droid to them on a Tuesday and got it back as good as new on Friday for a cost (including Fedex) of around $90 - certainly a lot cheaper than a new phone.
Has been working fine again since.
I heard it is a common issue on the phone, you can use an application like multitouch visualizer (on the market) to check the functional parts of the screen.
The problem I have is with the keyboard, I was using the right key to pass the pages on kindle for android and now I have to press it harder, it also happened with one of the space buttons, thanks god those are 3...
Ends up I'm not entirely retarded, and got the extended warranty for 1.99 extra month. I traded it in, but the replacement has same issues. Might be time to upgrade my phone...
Try replacing Flex cable instead of digitizer.
If it's not damaged.. hold off on the digitalizer and cable replacement.. grab ya some descant packets (do not eat bags that come with new items that can't stand any moisture) ziplock it up with them.. with battery out of it.. leave it over night.. bam..
BRITT#OGDROID
Oh.. and the OG doesn't like sweaty pockets or extreme humidity.. it's definitely your problem if not damaged.. bet you're in the south..
BRITT#OGDROID

Possible MAJOR discovery regarding battery/red lite issue.

So I'm one of the people that's been having major issues with the red light/ no boot issue.
I think the issue (for me at least) is a hardware flaw. Upon completing the steps to reboot the phone (take case apart, disconnect battery, connect power, wait for battery charge indication, reconnect battery) I can get the phone to boot and function just fine.
I have discovered that upon screwing the battery connection back into the phone, it applies a bit too much pressure on the connection which sends the phone back into the redlite "no boot" mode.
TL;DR, If the battery is connected to the phone too "tightly" with the screws, the issue is caused.
Hardware flaw? I think so.
My Fix? Took out the connecting screws, the connection seems to hold without them and there is no more pressure on the connection without the added thickness of the screws (when putting the back of the case on)
EDIT: Here's a video of what I'm talking about, for those of you who haven't had to deal with this (yet?)
Video of Issue
Hey Google/LG, if you're reading this, Send me a new phone, please!! This is unacceptable!
Good find. Maybe you could try packing the back in places so that no pressure is put on the battery
Michealtbh said:
Good find. Maybe you could try packing the back in places so that no pressure is put on the battery
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Good Idea, will try it if I encounter this problem again. Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case).
bump--I think people should really see this.
Nice find dude!
I always thought it was a software issue but turns out it is not!
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
alwaysbboy said:
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
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Perhaps it's just a coincidence. I'll still stay away from benchmarking, though.
alwaysbboy said:
I always thought it was a software issue but turns out it is not!
It's still strange that most people have encountered the issue when benchmarking.
Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk 2
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If the finding is true then here my theory on why it happens mostly during benchmarks.When you run benchmarks, your phone and battery heats up a lot. This can cause the connectors to expand causing screws to get tightened.
i can confirmed this find is true, altough its kinda late for me to read this thread.
here is my version.
im a proud owner of nexus 4. got my phone from the 1st batch order, and the original bumper also :angel:
this morning while watching my kid at school, got nothing to do but overclocking my nexus 4 with morfic's latest beta kernel.
silly i put the min and max at 1.8++ghz and run an antutu test on it. and in another 5 seconds the N4 turned off and practically dead. all buttons combo were negatives. as soon as i arrived home i plugged in the official charger. it just blinking red. few moments after i plugged in the N4 to my laptop. blinking red and driver installed notification showed up. then the red light gone. like forever... no red when i put it on charger nor when connected to the laptop.
ok its a dead meat. im in JAKARTA n got my n4 from the US. none of any LG service centre in my country could help me with it. and the RMA things just too far from me.
so since i left with zero to none option, i was wondering "what if i take off the battery?"
i remember read an article from ifixit about how to teardown the nexus 4 then i found the link.
here it is:
http://www.ifixit.com/Teardown/Nexus+4+Teardown/11781/1
what i did was:
1. follow steps number 6 [pictures #1 & #2]
2. number 7 [pictures #1 & #2]
3 and number 9. [pictures #1 & #2. no need do the pictures #3]
4. see the white wire with blue sticky tape right next to the battery? i dont know what is that but i unplugged the golden head off also.
i left it that way for 10 minutes before i put it back all together again [ including the screw battery port holder. just dont screwed them too tight. give a small effort to none power ]
all done and i pressed the power button. its ON like nothing happened before.
when im about to share my fixed in the other thread, i got someone direct me to this thread. so here i am confirming this fixed is legit
Wow!! This fixed my nexus that didn't even have an LED light. You are a life saver!
It's been dead for a week and I was just waiting on warranty. But now it's up and running like a bawse!
Hi
ethugp3pp3r said:
So I'm one of the people that's been having major issues with the red light/ no boot issue.
I think the issue (for me at least) is a hardware flaw. Upon completing the steps to reboot the phone (take case apart, disconnect battery, connect power, wait for battery charge indication, reconnect battery) I can get the phone to boot and function just fine.
I have discovered that upon screwing the battery connection back into the phone, it applies a bit too much pressure on the connection which sends the phone back into the redlite "no boot" mode.
TL;DR, If the battery is connected to the phone too "tightly" with the screws, the issue is caused.
Hardware flaw? I think so.
My Fix? Took out the connecting screws, the connection seems to hold without them and there is no more pressure on the connection without the added thickness of the screws (when putting the back of the case on)
EDIT: Here's a video of what I'm talking about, for those of you who haven't had to deal with this (yet?)
Video of Issue
Hey Google/LG, if you're reading this, Send me a new phone, please!! This is unacceptable!
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This is simply a fault with your phone. Most likely a chip or component isn't soldered correctly or you have a dry joint. When the board is flexed by some force it is breaking or making the connection.
The time will come when even this "fix" for you stops working.
The reason the phone is sometimes failing during stress tests and not coming back on is a safety device. The lithium battery is reporting it is under stress or too hot and the phone shuts down to avoid an explosion. Because there is a big chance the battery is permanently damaged and so potentially dangerous the phone remains in a safety condition wanting to be returned to the manufacturer for testing. Lithium batteries if damaged can explode, imagine if a phone explodes next to your face while you are talking on it? The manufacturers, not wanting a law suit that disfiguring someone might bring, deliberately er on the side of caution.
It's a bit like the limp home mode some cars have when they detect some parameter outside of the norm. You might be able to reset that back to normal by some hack found on the internet but it hasn't fixed the underlying cause.
Regards
Phil
This thread should be stickied as this is a common problem with the Nexus 4.
Just wrote this to bump the thread back to first page so more people can see
Sticky This!
This needs to be stickied!
I'm having a similar issue with my completely stock nexus 4. I can only turn the phone on when it is connected to charger, but this is also very rare. If I manage to turn it on, it shows I have -22% battery left and this doesnt change. I can enter bootloader when charger is connected. I have left it charging overnight, but still it doesn't boot without the charger connected.
Any idea if the fix described here can help me? Can LG service somehow see that the phone has been opened?
I live in unsupported country, so I can't send the phone back to Google. My only hope is this fix here or my local LG service, but I'm not sure if my local LG can even help me, because the phone is not sold here.
Ahhh good thoughts. I've got a replacement battery on the way for that reason... Hopefully it's a problem there.
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Nexus 4, 8Gb, in UK
It arrived Sat (2 days ago) @ 80% charge & about 5 mins after unpacking I noticed it was the 8Gb & not the 16Gb I had ordered
Phoned google for RMA - currently awaiting replacement.
Repacked it, took it to work, had a play, installed maybe 3 apps, browsed a lot though - reboxed it afterward. as I had no case & as I didn't want to risk the RMA I decided not to take it next day.
Case arrives from amazon & I'm back to work today, so I decided to risk it - nexus battery almost dead & powered off.
Connected charger - nexus indicates charging on screen when power button is pushed.
As I lift the phone to power it on 20mins later, charging display blanks & red light starts blinking - swap cable, charger & check connections - all ok - nothing but a red light on a dead phone.
*panic*
read internet: wasted half an hour on button combos streetfighter would be proud of
Found this post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37461951&postcount=3
"Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case)."
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
Am glad I'm sending this unit back, if replacement does this within 30 days then I will give up on LG & wait for next gphone; between this and the glass cracking issues I read of, this may not be the best nexus ever quality wise.
tl;dr Almost virgin Nexus got red light & unresponsive on first charge. After all else failing, firmly pressing the back, directly above the battery connection area immediately revived it...
kwft said:
Nexus 4, 8Gb, in UK
It arrived Sat (2 days ago) @ 80% charge & about 5 mins after unpacking I noticed it was the 8Gb & not the 16Gb I had ordered
Phoned google for RMA - currently awaiting replacement.
Repacked it, took it to work, had a play, installed maybe 3 apps, browsed a lot though - reboxed it afterward. as I had no case & as I didn't want to risk the RMA I decided not to take it next day.
Case arrives from amazon & I'm back to work today, so I decided to risk it - nexus battery almost dead & powered off.
Connected charger - nexus indicates charging on screen when power button is pushed.
As I lift the phone to power it on 20mins later, charging display blanks & red light starts blinking - swap cable, charger & check connections - all ok - nothing but a red light on a dead phone.
*panic*
read internet: wasted half an hour on button combos streetfighter would be proud of
Found this post here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=37461951&postcount=3
"Seems to hold up, though, even when pressing on the back of the case where the connection is made (down and to the left about 0.5cm from the "n" on the back of the case)."
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
Am glad I'm sending this unit back, if replacement does this within 30 days then I will give up on LG & wait for next gphone; between this and the glass cracking issues I read of, this may not be the best nexus ever quality wise.
tl;dr Almost virgin Nexus got red light & unresponsive on first charge. After all else failing, firmly pressing the back, directly above the battery connection area immediately revived it...
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So you didn't even take it apart to revive it? Interesting... I haven't had this issue myself in the 2 and a half months with this phone, but nice to know what to do if it arises.
It sounds like it could be dodgy solder joints, although I'm tempted to say that I'm currently ****ting myself. Things like glass cracking doesn't worry me, people are clumsy and that usually will cause that. However, we have no control over the quality of the circuitry inside.
The thing is, the poster above says wait for the next GPhone, it's been announced for next year. So you're going to be waiting a hell of a long time. This phone I hope will suffice while you do so however.
kwft said:
After pressing down around there, the red light clears instantly, small vibration & nexus is now charging again.
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Nice to see that helps. I need a fix that allows me to "pull" on it and then push it again

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