Anyone could confirm if the screen of the kaiser is same as the Hermes ?
Under align screen display (which is all white), do you see any faint gray shadow at the bottom ?
sectorlord said:
Anyone could confirm if the screen of the kaiser is same as the Hermes ?
Under align screen display (which is all white), do you see any faint gray shadow at the bottom ?
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I think that screen on the Kaiser is way better than Hermes. I can't see anything on the Hermes screen outside on the bright light.
ID64 said:
I think that screen on the Kaiser is way better than Hermes. I can't see anything on the Hermes screen outside on the bright light.
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Ditto, I have a 8525 and a Hermes. The Kaiser's screen is crisper and brighter.
On the minus side the daylight reading isn't really any better.
the resolution and size is indeed the same, if that's what your asking.
mikeeey said:
the resolution and size is indeed the same, if that's what your asking.
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Not exactly - Kaiser's screen is a little bit smaller (like 1-2 mm less on both width and height). Check with the ruler. At least I've checked, as I wanted to find out if screen protector from Hermes will fit to Kaiser - but it won't.
not the resolution ....
Under alignment screen, tap "align Screen" (which is all white), do you see any faint gray shadow at the bottom ?
The trinity has it but not the hermes...
HI all, I dont know if anyone has this situation...
Everytime I press on the screen, the screen generates a bit like a water wave and the situation is just like pressing on a LCD monitor.
My old M3100 doesnt have this situation...how about u guyz? do you have water wave when u press on your tytn ii?
thanks
Hmmm, maybe it's because you ARE pressing on a LCD screen... I never press hard enough to see it, but I'm sure it would.
Yea seriously, how hard are you pressing? I don't think you need to be pressing nearly as hard as you are. I can see the ripple if I press really hard, but that much force isn't necessary for your taps to be recognized (and its probably not good for the screen).
I was going to post about this earlier. I too have this problem. I owned an 8525 before, and it never rippled unless you were exerting massive force.
My current Tilt you barley tap it (like say, you are touching the dial pad to call someone) and it has two large ripples happening.
Is this normal for everyone? I called ATT about this, and they just sent me a new one. I just haven't opened the new one yet.
I found this out cos I am using my finger to use the Touchflo...I didnt apply a very aggressive pressure on it...I even see the ripple when I slide the keyboard out. Is it normal?
no its not normal if you are pressing softly and having wave like that. Please do the warranty exchange.
iservealot said:
I was going to post about this earlier. I too have this problem. I owned an 8525 before, and it never rippled unless you were exerting massive force.
My current Tilt you barley tap it (like say, you are touching the dial pad to call someone) and it has two large ripples happening.
Is this normal for everyone? I called ATT about this, and they just sent me a new one. I just haven't opened the new one yet.
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HI have u tested your new Tilt yet?
iservealot said:
I was going to post about this earlier. I too have this problem. I owned an 8525 before, and it never rippled unless you were exerting massive force.
My current Tilt you barley tap it (like say, you are touching the dial pad to call someone) and it has two large ripples happening.
Is this normal for everyone? I called ATT about this, and they just sent me a new one. I just haven't opened the new one yet.
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AT&T just sends you a new phone without even asking for the old one back?
I've seen the small ripple when sliding the screen out. Maybe it's the magnetic switch..who knows. Doesn't happen all the time.
I have uploaded a video on youtube about my screen problem
I only pressed it gently on the screen.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=b03x2VldcmI
Do you guyz have this problem?
Anyone? it seems I am the only one to have this problem...
Hi
It depends on the LCD panel, there are different types of panel, some will ripple when pressed or distorted even very slightly others don't.
The problem with asking others is there are at least two different types of LCD panel used in the Kaiser. One we know to be transreflective that works in direct sunlight and looks kind of green rather than black when off, and one that's not transreflective that is black when off and doesn't work too well in direct sunlight. These panels may well be using different LCD technologies in other ways meaning not everyone will see the same as you.
Mine isn't transreflective and doesn't do this, so perhaps you have a transreflective type that also ripples under pressure. It isn't a fault with the LCD display, rather HTC sourcing whatever types of panel they can get at the time for the cheapest price. You wouldn't normally use a panel that ripples when pressed on a touch screen for obvious reasons, but HTC have. Maybe it was a shortage in supply and there are not many that use this type?
Regards
Phil
It shouldn't happen. Exchange it.
Sane said:
AT&T just sends you a new phone without even asking for the old one back?
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They charge you for the second one and then refund it when they receive the old one.
greenbep said:
They charge you for the second one and then refund it when they receive the old one.
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They sent my second one out to me at no charge. They forgot to include the shipping labels...again... so they will probably just end up letting me keep the device.
Anyhow, my Tilt ripples exactly in the same place that the video showed, and in the same way.
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They sent my second one out to me at no charge. They forgot to include the shipping labels...again... so they will probably just end up letting me keep the device.
Anyhow, my Tilt ripples exactly in the same place that the video showed, and in the same way.
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Is the ripple gone for your second one?
Where is your Tilt made?
What's the model code under the battery (ie. KAIS300)?
JwY said:
Where is your Tilt made?
What's the model code under the battery (ie. KAIS300)?
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Mine is from orange uk...sounds like I am not the only one who has this problem.
PhilipL said:
Hi
It depends on the LCD panel, there are different types of panel, some will ripple when pressed or distorted even very slightly others don't.
The problem with asking others is there are at least two different types of LCD panel used in the Kaiser. One we know to be transreflective that works in direct sunlight and looks kind of green rather than black when off, and one that's not transreflective that is black when off and doesn't work too well in direct sunlight. These panels may well be using different LCD technologies in other ways meaning not everyone will see the same as you.
Mine isn't transreflective and doesn't do this, so perhaps you have a transreflective type that also ripples under pressure. It isn't a fault with the LCD display, rather HTC sourcing whatever types of panel they can get at the time for the cheapest price. You wouldn't normally use a panel that ripples when pressed on a touch screen for obvious reasons, but HTC have. Maybe it was a shortage in supply and there are not many that use this type?
Regards
Phil
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We don't know this at all, there apparently are at least two screen types but neither was transreflective, both blew out in direct sun.
The ripple is a function of the thickness of the glass screen. Since liquid crystal displays work by electrostatic twisting of a liquid suspension of quartz crystals thereby bending the light to allow it to pass thru polarizing filters, any physical movement of this suspension will also cause visible light artifacts. So if the front panel is lighter weight material, it will show more "ripples" if pressed firmly.
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The ripple is a function of the thickness of the glass screen. Since liquid crystal displays work by electrostatic twisting of a liquid suspension of quartz crystals thereby bending the light to allow it to pass thru polarizing filters, any physical movement of this suspension will also cause visible light artifacts. So if the front panel is lighter weight material, it will show more "ripples" if pressed firmly.
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There are different technologies used in the production of LCD panels and how the glass is spaced to give room to create the pockets for the liquid crystal.
Some displays "water" when you press them, others don't, it depends on what the type of LCD display it is. My monitor at work can be pressed and nothing happens, my one at home is the opposite. It's not hard to find this explained on the internet.
The Kaiser is using different types of display using different technologies. Typically for touch screen applications (unless the display as a touch glass front) would not be of the type to ripple when pressed for the reason it will be pressed and flexed, but obviously HTC is supplying anything they can get.
Regards
Phil
Hi,
I Got another Tilt From warranty department. They gave me a brand new one.
When I look at my old tilt, the screen is much brighter, both are set to the brightness setting. If you go to programs or setting the white in the background is much white, as apposed to a creamy white.
Is there some other setting that i played with ??
Any help would be really nice.
I think HTC have been using two different screens, mines a really bright screen and a mates is much duller on the same brightness setting.
the brighter screen ones seem to be much easier to read in sunlight etc.
damn... HTC must have a huge quality control/inconsistencies with each model made. I tested out 3 different Tilts at fry's and each one's usb connector felt completely different. one was so tight it looked like it might rip out. they all 3 had very different feeling keyboards.. but, all 3 screens had the same brightness. So I'd assume some of the first production tilts didn't have as bright a screen as the newer ones.
Noticed the same thing with the Touch phone, my first one the screen was lovely and bright with a perfect white colour, then my replacement one at max brightness was slightly dimmer with a creamy white colour, over time I got used to it
Once I received my HTC Tytn 2 and compared it to the Touch it was like night and day, the Tytn 2 screen is lovely and bright and the white is perfect .
Wonder what's happening with these screens
I'm sure somebody else can explain it better, but there are in fact two variations of screen (I forget the terminology). Both have advantages and disadvantages (ie: one looks better indoors than outside).
There's a fellow on the forums here that sells both kinds as a replacement if I recall.
If there are two variations why did HTC decide to use two drastically different screens without telling anyone
I would guess supply is the factor. HTC contracts out sub-components like screens. Company X makes them several thousand transreflective screens....then Company Z makes them several thousand that are non-transreflective (excuse my tossing around what may be the wrong term there).
That's the right term, but the TyTN II spec never listed transreflective screens (for best outside viewing). There have been reports of different looking screens, probably batch differences from different display suppliers, but so far none are transreflective (easily checked by turning the backlight to minimum and walking outside or shining a bright light right on the screen. Transreflective will be easier to see as the light gets brighter and non-transreflective will be impossible to see under very bright light.
Disable the phone screen dimmer
Question?
There are situations that you must during a call and after a while use the key pad again, but the screen has turned to black. Its annoying to press the power button to alight the screen again. Does anybody know if there is a setting to change the time interval of the screen dimmer? (I do not mean the timer from battery saver).
Hi, yes i found the answer myself. Edit the Registry with Registry Explorer from SK-Tools www.s-k-tools.com en change the following key:
1 Modifying the DWORD stored in:
2 \HKLM\Drivers\BuiltIn\RIL\EnableFastDormantDisplay DuringCall
3 from "1" to "0" will leave the screen on and falling back to the backlight/power settings)
Found the answer on Dutch site http://gathering.tweakers.net/forum/list_messages/1260492
Thanks anyway Ekw
Kaiser tweak has that option to enable screen on during a phonecall!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I compared my Diamond wiht my girl friend's Diamond side by side (both bought from HKCSL with ROM 1.34 and upgraded to ROM1.37), found her Diamond LCD is more white and mine is a bit yellowish. I think it is related to color temperature. Anyone has idea about this obervation? Any way to adjust it? I like to make the screen more white.
BTW, this also shows HTC has bad quality control.
I just got a tilt about a week ago and ive noticed that in the middle of the screen there seems to be a purple greenish tint when put against incandescent light. The size of said glint varies in size but i'm unable to see what changes the size. Not sure if its heat or pressure or something. The touch screen works perfectly its just really annoying to always see such an annoying glint.
An interesting discovery is that when i press all four corners of the screen it disappears and when i press in the middle of the little square it seems to spread out. I feel like theres some kind of material or something in the touch screen that is causing this due to pressure. I keep it in a hard case in my pocket so the screen isnt pressed on inadvertently.
I've searched the forum for any answers but i havent seen anything about it. Any response or help would be greatly appreciated. I'll try to get a picture of it up asap but i left my camera at a friends house and dont know when im getting it back...thanks in advanced
~sayazs
Do you see the same "annoying glint" under neon light (not day / sunlight)?
Lots of NOKIA and SONY ERICSSON phones for example get this screen recolorization under direct sunlight - this has nothing to do with the screen being defective but with the plastic above the screen which breaks the light and shows you this colored spots. If you can't see the same spot under direct neon light then this might be the cause.
It is normal that you get color changes while pressing the screen in. First of, you press / bent the protecting plastic and the liquid within the screen which causes the incoming light to break in a different angle, therefore the color changes. (BTW: you shouldn't do that too often, it can cause permanent stains on your screen!).
There sure is the possibility that your screen gets pressure from underneath due bad assembling! If you're still under warranty, try to get a replacement.
yeah you cant see it in day light. but i feel as though there is constant pressure on the screen between the plastic and liquid since the spot is always there and doesnt really go away (unless of course in daylight).
well im thinking im going to go back for a replacement. thanks for the quick answer!