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Hi, guys,
Here's one from Kaiser newbie (sorry if there's an answer to this somewhere, tried, but couldn't find it):
Have a (un)brand(ed) new Kaiser and this 2GB Micro SD Card. The thing is, no matter what I do, I can't force that bundled TT6 Navigator (or any other version, for that matter!) to install on my SD!!!
Before you ask, I need it because I am frequently commuting throughout Balkans, and (as if that alone wasn't enough ) the ONLY map TomTom released covering that area so far was v6.08 East Europe BETA which has around 170MB. There's a lot of local forums stating that it is quite operational, but needs a bit of tweaking to get it there, which includes puting both TT6 app and the Eastern_Europe-Map folder to the root of SD.
Piece-a-cake, I thought, but then I hit the wall... I do get to a point of being asked for an install location, but even if I select my SD card ("Storage card"), I end up with TT6 installed in default Program Files folder! Tried with ActiveSync, manual install, CabInst and some other reg-tweakers (promising to solve things but failing miserably), etc., to no avail.
Not just that app, to be specific, some other behave likewise, but then, there are also those that play along, so...
What gives?!?
Try making a "My Documents" folder in the Root of the SD card, then install there or if you already have the maps there, just copy the map folder into My Documents on your SD card.
Are you sure the actual app is installed in the devices main memory. When you install to the SD it still has to install some files on the device - such as the shortcut to the actualy program.
MakaveliReturns
Try making a "My Documents" folder in the Root of the SD card, then install there or if you already have the maps there, just copy the map folder into My Documents on your SD card.
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Well, tried that one up, as well as making SD card "Program Files", but doesn't work that way. I'm sure it's because after I move the "Navigator" folder from MyDevice Program Files to SD card, there's a plenty of registry keys still pointing out to the default location... The problem is I can't make ActiveSync to actually install the damn thing anywhere on SD card.
unwired4
Are you sure the actual app is installed in the devices main memory. When you install to the SD it still has to install some files on the device - such as the shortcut to the actualy program.
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Yes, because I located several folders on MyDevice with TomTom related files, and NONE on my SD card...
Thanks anyway, guys, any help is appreciated.
Quick update:
I did the hard reset. I'll try out "fresh" install, maybe something got messed up in my registry, then I'm back with results - usefull if someone else out there have the same problem (and I've found quite a few of those unfortunate souls ).
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I'm sure it's because after I move the "Navigator" folder from MyDevice Program Files to SD card, there's a plenty of registry keys still pointing out to the default location.
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Yeah, this isn't going to work. The installation needs to go to the SD card in the first place.
Uninstall whatever it is you want on the card.
When you do the installation, make sure the card is in the phone. Connect your phone to your PC and don't immediately launch the installation. In WMDC or Active Sync, go to "Add/Remove Programs." There's a check box on the screen that will open that says "Install applications to default location" or something along those lines. If you can uncheck it, do so (it's not available sometimes).
When you actually do the install, check the mobile phone - it should be prompting you for where you want to install the app. Select the radio button for the Storage card, and you should be good to go.
Ok, now this is ridiculous!
After a hard reset, tried to install TTN 6, and, when asked for an install location, selected "Storage card"... Nevertheless, the damn thing installed to the Mobile device instead (again, so I give up trying to put it on SD for good!), but, to my surprise, I have managed to start it up and it even recognized my map ("Eastern_Europe-Map" folder on SD card)! Boy, was I happy as a pig in the s... Simpsons Movie ! Quited and started the app several times to ensure it's lock and loaded for good - yep, it was working all right...
But, guess what? After a later soft reset, TomTom hit me back with "No map found" again, seems like it has lost the "show-me-the-map-location-key-thingy" from the registry!!!
So, who da f#$% do I have to kill for this?
Try installing it from the sd card - ie put the cab files on the sd card and load it from there.
Thanx, tried that one already (described in my previous post), it got me closest to the goal, ie. that's how I got TT6 recognizing my map from SD card and working as a peach 'til next soft reset...
What could change in execution of an app after just reseting a device? The only thing coming to my mind is some Windows-style-run-once-regkey that screws things up, which makes no sense since the app should be legit, coming bundled with the Kaiser an all that...
Any idea?
I would guess it more to some registry settings remaining from the flawed installations.
Is there a setting in TT that tells it where to find the maps?
I don't know how, but, hey - it's working now!
Right.
First of all - it's working. I don't know the apparent reason, but what i did was:
1) A hard reset.
2) None of that Spring Backup restore stuff. Although I used to restore just emails and personal database, left it out completely this time around.
3) Installed manually all of the usual tweaks, apps and stuff first, then put the TT6 cab down to my SD card again.
4) Synchronized my emails, contacts and the likes using ActiveSync.
4) Installed TT6 from SD card again, but before starting it for a first time, made a full Spring backup - the idea was, if the thing tends to work just for the first time it's started, I could easily restore it should it start loosing it again after a soft reset.
And that was it. Then started TT6, played around with it for a couple of minutes, and did a soft reset.... TA-DAAAAAH, it's up and running again and again, so no problem with it anymore.
Is it just me, or this makes no sense whatsoever, but, hey, it's working so why bother with it any longer.
Thanks a lot for your help, see you again in next week's episode of "I don't know how, but, hey - it's working now!"
Cheers.
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know if there will be any way that we can use IGO8 on the Diamond?
I know that for them moment that is a no-no since there is an absence for a SD card, but is there a way that there will be a way around it ???maybe with the modification of the SYS.txt file?
Thanks
athosk said:
Hello everyone,
Does anyone know if there will be any way that we can use IGO8 on the Diamond?
I know that for them moment that is a no-no since there is an absence for a SD card, but is there a way that there will be a way around it ???maybe with the modification of the SYS.txt file?
Thanks
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the internal 4GB memory in the Diamond is identified as a "Storage Device" so it shouldnt be a problem.
IGO 8 crash with Diamond...Look HERE
How did he test it?
You can run iGo8 only from the original SD-card (copy protection)!!!
It is not possible to copy the files an run it from another SD-Card.
So it will not be possible to use it on the diamond.
TDO
TDO said:
How did he test it?
You can run iGo8 only from the original SD-card (copy protection)!!!
It is not possible to copy the files an run it from another SD-Card.
So it will not be possible to use it on the diamond.
TDO
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he tested it with cracked igo 8... so it is possible!
I had problems with iGO8 on my P3650 Touch Cruise and i found out that if you disable "Assisted GPS" it will work. I used Pocket Toolman to disable that. I did deleted those two files in the "2577" folder and made myself an shortcut that i placed in \Windows\Start Menu folder. Now it works like a charm. When you don't disable Assisted GPS it crashes all the time. Hope this will help.
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Hi Guys,
IGO 2008 crashes (it does not start up - AGPS is zerp by default enabling did not help either)
BR
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I think discussion about illegal software is not really purposeful.
The original poster asked if he will be able to use iGo8 with the diamond.
And the answer is a simple no, as it only works with the included SD-card.
TDO
TDO said:
I think discussion about illegal software is not really purposeful.
The original poster asked if he will be able to use iGo8 with the diamond.
And the answer is a simple no, as it only works with the included SD-card.
TDO
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It will work if you place it in the 4 gig space, make a shortcut of iGO.exe in \windows\Start Menu and it will start up and work just fine.
Sponzert said:
It will work if you place it in the 4 gig space, make a shortcut of iGO.exe in \windows\Start Menu and it will start up and work just fine.
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No it will not.
It works only with the SD-Card it came.
iGo8 hast the same copy protection as iGo6 - the program ist bound to the specific SD-card.
Just ask navngo.
TDO
This is actually ridiculous: I get a GPS phone and can't install ANY GPS program on it? As far as I know, they all come on SD cards!
pedmond said:
This is actually ridiculous: I get a GPS phone and can't install ANY GPS program on it? As far as I know, they all come on SD cards!
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its not the hardware manufactor's fault that the software developer cannot write a piece of software to function without a microSD card.
Sponzert said:
I had problems with iGO8 on my P3650 Touch Cruise and i found out that if you disable "Assisted GPS" it will work. I used Pocket Toolman to disable that. I did deleted those two files in the "2577" folder and made myself an shortcut that i placed in \Windows\Start Menu folder. Now it works like a charm. When you don't disable Assisted GPS it crashes all the time. Hope this will help.
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What did you mean by crashes? I have a touch diamond and i have tried to install a version on my device.
What I have done is placed the two folders iGO8 and 2577 folders into the inboard storage of my phone I have then unplugged the phone from the data cable and it then asks me if i want to install iGO, i click yes and it installs, through the instalation, it asks me a unknown publisher wants to acces something, i just click yes, the installation ends up finishing and the program tries to load, then bang nothing, it just goes to the menu screen i was previously on, I then try to access the program through the start menu and programs folder, it tries to execute but then just stops. nothing happens. I have also tried the same thing after a soft reset.
is nthis the kind of issue you were having ?
saveferris said:
What did you mean by crashes? I have a touch diamond and i have tried to install a version on my device.
What I have done is placed the two folders iGO8 and 2577 folders into the inboard storage of my phone I have then unplugged the phone from the data cable and it then asks me if i want to install iGO, i click yes and it installs, through the instalation, it asks me a unknown publisher wants to acces something, i just click yes, the installation ends up finishing and the program tries to load, then bang nothing, it just goes to the menu screen i was previously on, I then try to access the program through the start menu and programs folder, it tries to execute but then just stops. nothing happens. I have also tried the same thing after a soft reset.
is nthis the kind of issue you were having ?
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why don't you try running it by disabling A-GPS using PPC Toolman? The other member claims that with this way, he got it to run using another device though
athosk said:
why don't you try running it by disabling A-GPS using PPC Toolman? The other member claims that with this way, he got it to run using another device though
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Exactly, thats what i did and it runs like hell. Sometimes you can go mad when you reboot and get that install again, just delete the two files from 2577 folder.
pedmond said:
This is actually ridiculous: I get a GPS phone and can't install ANY GPS program on it? As far as I know, they all come on SD cards!
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Yes, but only navngo uses the SD card ID as copy protection. All other progams should function. E.g. TomTom will be included on the O2 version of the diamond.
TDO
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why don't you try running it by disabling A-GPS using PPC Toolman? The other member claims that with this way, he got it to run using another device though
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I couldn't even install that program PPC toolman, i downloaded the link on that page, I put the files on my internal storage and clicked on them through file manager, it just gave me an error message.
I even put the files in My device section of my hard drive and still nothing.
TBH, i have NFI what i'm gonna do next.
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its not the hardware manufactor's fault that the software developer cannot write a piece of software to function without a microSD card.
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I totally agree - that was meant as a critique for the software houses. I'm buying the Diamond
saveferris said:
I couldn't even install that program PPC toolman, i downloaded the link on that page, I put the files on my internal storage and clicked on them through file manager, it just gave me an error message.
I even put the files in My device section of my hard drive and still nothing.
TBH, i have NFI what i'm gonna do next.
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I have sent you a private message. Check that out and let us know the result. I don't have a Diamond but I got iGO8 working on a device with the SD card removed, so it should work on the Diamond as well...
david-v said:
I have sent you a private message. Check that out and let us know the result. I don't have a Diamond but I got iGO8 working on a device with the SD card removed, so it should work on the Diamond as well...
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Can you please send me the info about IGO8 as well? I have the Diamond and will test it tomorrow. Thx
Something that has annoyed me with the new TOM TOM after an update from TOM TOM Home it installed it on my main memory instead of storage card so therefore it now takes up so much room that I can't install any more programs. Any way of modding the installation cab to install on my storage card instead ????
Have searched and also tried using pocket mechanic to move whole program to storage cars but then the gps refused to lock on.
buffystar said:
Something that has annoyed me with the new TOM TOM after an update from TOM TOM Home it installed it on my main memory instead of storage card so therefore it now takes up so much room that I can't install any more programs. Any way of modding the installation cab to install on my storage card instead ????
Have searched and also tried using pocket mechanic to move whole program to storage cars but then the gps refused to lock on.
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Which TomTom version do you have?
buffystar said:
Something that has annoyed me with the new TOM TOM after an update from TOM TOM Home it installed it on my main memory instead of storage card so therefore it now takes up so much room that I can't install any more programs. Any way of modding the installation cab to install on my storage card instead ????
Have searched and also tried using pocket mechanic to move whole program to storage cars but then the gps refused to lock on.
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..when installing tt on internal storage map share will not work any more!
Move all files except tthome.bif (created when connecing to tthome) to the internal memory, create a Program (or Program files folder head memory. (I don't have an english version and am not sure of which name.)
Keep a copy of CurrentMap.dat and UserPatch.dat in the original folder.
Home works, everything else as before. Not sure if this is the nicest way, but it works.
P.S. You have to create a new shortcut to TomTomNavigator.exe in the programs folder, and delete the old one.
Thanks have sorted it by filling up my main memory with MP3's etc then trying to install the cab. It then says memory full do you want to install on storage and voila sorted.
buffystar said:
Thanks have sorted it by filling up my main memory with MP3's etc then trying to install the cab. It then says memory full do you want to install on storage and voila sorted.
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nice one, good trick
hi
this may be a dumb question, but tbh i have been trying to get it working for a week.
i bought copilot live 8 which is compatable with my htc touch diamond but after installing the software i cant install the maps, i have 100mb free of space on my device and there is no option to install it on my internal memor (3.2gb free). i have the UK & Ireland mapps which amount to 186mb. copilot central 2.0 doesnt come with the option either when i attempt installing it from my computer.
also copilot have not answered anyone of my 5 emails, usless! TomTom arn't this rude.
thank you to everyone who attempts to cure my touch diamond/copilot problem
CHEEEEERS!
s13igh said:
hi
this may be a dumb question, but tbh i have been trying to get it working for a week.
i bought copilot live 8 which is compatable with my htc touch diamond but after installing the software i cant install the maps, i have 100mb free of space on my device and there is no option to install it on my internal memor (3.2gb free). i have the UK & Ireland mapps which amount to 186mb. copilot central 2.0 doesnt come with the option either when i attempt installing it from my computer.
also copilot have not answered anyone of my 5 emails, usless! TomTom arn't this rude.
thank you to everyone who attempts to cure my touch diamond/copilot problem
CHEEEEERS!
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put all files on to internal memory and should work fine.(copy + paste)mine does
First off, I'm definitely NOT one of the experts on XDA. I'm basically a newbie on a lot of this stuff. That said, I have CoPilot V8 on my Diamond and love it.
All I did was (a)download the software, (b)copy it ALL over to my Internal Storage (do not use Active Sync), (c)rename the 2577 file to 2577C so it doesn't autorun until I tell it to, (d)safely remove device from computer, (e)go to file explorer - find 2577C on Internal Storage - and hit Autorun.
I install everything to Internal Storage since I am low on "storage memory."
Don't know if that was what you're looking for or not.
El Mono
P.S. For this initial install you do not need to employ their PC program at all.
SOLUTION to my problem, maybe urs in the future!
i had to do somthing similar to that! thanks for helping giving me a a baseline on which to start!
A) download data
B) copy both 2577 and copilot to the internal memory
c) disconnect from the computer go to 2577 with the file explorer and hit auto run
D) run copilot go through the intial settings like, voice, imperial ect.....
E) once that is done and it says no maps installed restart the diamond device
F) plug the phone back into the computer with active sync and go to the internal memory. look for file "copilot" gps tracks, info, save and speech should be in there, delete them all!
G) go back to internal memory and find where YOU saved the "2577 and copilot" files copy everything in the "copilot file" (in my case maps for EU) EU, gpstracks, info and speech.
H) go back to the "copilot" file where you deleted everything and paste of the data which you just copied. 'wait a while'
I) once it is done run copilot and it should immdiatly start intigrating POI's
-------------------- DONE! -----------------------
this is why i like XDA Devlopers, everyone is there to help cheers guys!
Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.
GLO said:
Hi,
I have had my Kaiser since it was released over 2 years ago.
I have a 8gb MicroSD that i try to install my apps onto, but i always seem to run out of 'device application storage space'
So my question is, what are you doing to stop this from happening.
Can we use this thread to create a list of apps that are best to run on the device and which ones can be run on the storage card?
Thanks
PS. im also tempted to try a different rom to increase space, any suggestions as im running the official 6.1 from my carrier.
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There are a lot of good roms, just look over in the Kaiser Rom Development, read signatures to find out what a lot of people are using. Everyone has there own personal preference.
As far as what to install on SD Card and what to install on main memory, it goes kinda like this. If it is a dedicated program that you need to rely on, like G-Alarm or SPB Time for example, install it in main memory. If it is a program that runs on the today screen or in the background, install it to main memory. Programs like SPB Mobile Shell, WAD2, Palringo and other chat software can go to main memory. Anything else unless the programs says otherwise, can go on the SD Card. I always ask myself this, if my SD Card failed what are my few must have important apps that I need to make it through the rest of the day/week? I always put my entertainment crap on the SD, and only my important apps on the main storage.
Hope that steers you in the right direction.
PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!
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PS: How do you have 285 post, been a member since 2007, and are still using a OEM 6.1 ROM? You are missing the good stuff my friend!
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Yes, 285 posts since 07 driven by various questions and answers for others.
Rom swapping was limited to 6.0 to 6.1 official '3'rom,
Have tried numerous UI's including SPB Mobile Shell, Winterface etc but ended up reverting back to my basic stable set up. (ref my sig)
Had toyed with HTC Cube but a hard reset made me realize it it was more novelty than useful. had a fiddle with M2D but it was only a cab and not fully integrated into the ROM, so i ditched it.
But now that im hitting the max storage again, im tempted to play with a new rom.
edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!
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edit: just checked the Memory status and actually is the Storage Memory that i keep maxing out, not the Program storage (28Mb free) as i originally thought. I use memaid daily to regain space, but i guess its not enough!
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That is exactly the problem I'm having. I just recently bought one of these phones (used with preloaded apps) & it's kind of frustrating to see the storage memory near max (127MB).. I have deleted or moved some things to my removable memory card. I got it down to about 12MB of free space, but it seems to decrease daily!? right now its down to 6mb of free space in just 1 day & i have not added any apps. I'm confused how this is happening
Can you or anyone help?
Clear Temp Internet Files.
ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.
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....ClearTemp by Vicott - v1.3.0.1[/URL]
Also follow earlier post regards installing software only things that need to be loaded @ startup & home screen replacements "Shells" need to be installed to device memory, rest place on SD card.
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Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.
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Thanks stylez. I had already cleared/deleted my temp files a few days ago using that app. In the meantime though my free storage space (RAM) continues to decrease even when I'm not actively using any app!?? This is what puzzles me the most. Out of 128 MB ram, I'm now down to ~3.5 MB! Do you know what could be causing this or what to do? There are only 7 programs listed in my storage memory. Should i remove all of them except maybe "MS classic blue" (whatever that is).
When it boots up, the screen displays "TPC Elite ROM series" & then series of digits & text in the lower right corner of the screen. I'm new to using pocketpc's but it seems this device is running some mods? I have installed:
WM 6.5 (professional)
ROM version: TPC_V11_MEGA WWE (11/04/09)
touchflo v3.0
s2u2 (v2.04)
CHome editor (v1.6 beta)
titanium weather
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1)
& a host of other apps some of which I understand their function & some I don't.
Also a few days ago I was able to move some apps from the phone's storage
memory to my storage card. I was only able to move 2 or apps, but couldn't move others. Whenever I tried moving or deleting files/apps it wouldn't allow me to do so. I used total commander ce (v2.51) to do this. I have "file explorer" installed, but it seems less robust & have fewer features.
Any suggestions on how to move these apps or delete unwanted files?
thanks all.
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Ok now i know what the problem is "as have ROM info" It's deblogger solution is you can't delete folder Deblogger use Task Manager and kill cprog.exe then delete
Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?
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Thanks stylez, but I thought I read somewhere that cprog.exe file is an integral part of WM6.5 & utilizing the phone & killing or deleting it could be bad?
have you deleted this file from your phone? if so is there some other that replaces its functionality or is it even necessary?
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Delete the deblogger folder, as the solution says it's on root, you may not be able to delete without stopping the process cprog.exe it will have no effect on cprog.exe in the Windows Directory.
I dont have deblogger in my ROM as no Mega M2D and all recent releases don't as TPC cooked the ROM before we knew the issue existed.
Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(
kgj said:
Thanks for the tips. i followed the instructions, checked my free space & it was up to 76MB at 11am when i deleted it.
Do you know what these other softwares are for that I listed? I tried researching them, but am not sure if they are critical or what I can do to move them if not? (using total commander did not work)(
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That's cool happy to help.
You can't move programs cooked in ROM "Read Only Memory" files
Aebutton plus (v2.6.6.1) is a button mapper allows multi function per button press "very handy"
titanium weather Application for CHome weather
CHome editor (v1.6 beta) Allows moving panels, making new panels etc in CHome
s2u2 (v2.04) Lock screen
touchflo v2.0 M2D homescreen
thanks again stylez!
ok 1 month later I have the same problem! i deleted the deblogger folder. & i may have done another reinstall since then, but it has resurfaced. is there any way to make this a read only file instead of deleting it?