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Internet connection still stays connected??

Right i dont know if this is a bug or its just the way the Diamond is but i go to connect to the internet via opera...everything is fine and it connects via HSDPA. But when i close opera down...the connection is still alive ie doesnt disconnect automatically, i have to manually do it myself which is going to be a problem as i wont remember most of the time and im pretty sure the battery is going to be dead the longer i leave the connection as it is.
So is this normal??..reason i ask is with my nokia n95 i connected to the net but when i closed the browser down...the connection died as well ie disconnected automatically.
If this is normal is there anyway i can change an option that will close the connection as soon as i disconnect from the net??.
Again sorry for asking but its puzzling me as to why it would keep the connection alive even if i wasnt using the net...

Anyone help?? or is it just the way it is??.

I noticed the same thing -after coming from an iPhone and an N95.
Just go into the connection manager and close active connections after use. Its a pain, but an easy solution until someone suggests something better!

Spawn12 said:
Anyone help?? or is it just the way it is??.
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Yes, it's "normal".
You need to press the "end call" button, or configure it using the setting application to drop the data connection, or use the command manager to switch off the data connection, or use advanced config program to set the data connection to end after some minutes.

Well the way i figured it out is by using the long press key function, ive mapped it to my call end button which if i press for a few secs..disconnects me from the data connection.
I was hoping that there would be an option where you could specify when to kill the connection off ie after 10 mins of idling...ive been looking through the settings etc and cant seem to find anything...neither can i find anything in the advanced config program either other that gprs auto attach which ive disabled...

lightman3dd said:
Yes, it's "normal".
You need to press the "end call" button, or configure it using the setting application to drop the data connection, or use the command manager to switch off the data connection, or use advanced config program to set the data connection to end after some minutes.
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Thanks...ive had a look through the settings in the phone but cant see any option where you can specify when to drop the connection...same with advanced config...i cant see that option anywhere>??

Using 'Advanced Config' you can drop the connection after xx minutes of idle.
Programs > AdvConfig > Menu > Connections Settings.

rivmin said:
Using 'Advanced Config' you can drop the connection after xx minutes of idle.
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Well either i must be blind or im looking in the wrong area but for the life of me i cannot see an option in advanced config regarding dropping the data connection.

Spawn12 said:
Well either i must be blind or im looking in the wrong area but for the life of me i cannot see an option in advanced config regarding dropping the data connection.
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Programs > AdvConfig > Menu > Connections Settings.

rivmin said:
Programs > AdvConfig > Menu > Connections Settings.
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Thank you my friend, found it and put it to 1 min...lets see how it works now lol...
ok works great, set it to drop connection after 1 min and it did \o/...now i dont have to worry about my battery getting spanked lol

Why does GPRS want to connect?

Hello,
on my Diamond, I have e-mail receiving set to "manually" and both weather downloading options unchecked. However, very often, the phone tries to connect to GPRS without asking me for permission. Few days ago, I was playing with my phone, what caused turning off NoData (I dunno why - I have neither turned the Internet profile to "enable" in its settings nor uninstalled NoData). A few moments later, I was VERY suprised to see that.. phone was connected to the GPRS for over 40 minutes! I thought that it'd make my bill like $50 higher. However, it raised my bill for only ~$0,5. I have no idea neither why did it connect nor what did it wanted to do with GPRS connection. Do you have such problems either? What's the matter? How can I fix this so my phone won't want to connect without my demand? Thanks in advance.

NoData should be enough, but I don't know why it reset to enabled if you didn't do this yourself? That said, all it does is toggle some registry settings so perhaps one of the other 'tweak' apps (have you got any installed?) reset the settings...?
Mathew

Yeah, I think that other tweaking apps could make it - that was my first thought. I have Diamond Tweak and Advanced Config installed and I was playing with them, so they could change the settings. My problem though is not to make Diamond unable to connect GPRS - because NoData does everything I want in that matter. I want to know why Diamond wants to connect, while forecast and e-mails checking are off. It'd be great to know that, because maybe then it'd be possible to be sure that (even without NoData) Diamond wouldn't connect to the Internet when we don't want it to do it.

With gprs it's all about the traffic.. the more you download, the more you pay.. I deleted the settings, so it can't connect, even when it wants to.. Only use wifi anyway..
U can enable NoData, but I think it's still possible to manually turn on the connection. NoData won't work then, unless you re-enable and softreset..

djind - oh man, I know how does GPRS work and what do I pay for..
I'll repeat once again, cause I think not everyone got this right. I want to know, WHY does Diamond want to connect to GPRS if it DOESN'T want to download forecast or e-mails. I'd love to have no situations with Diamond trying to connect - without NoData, without deleting settings. Just NO CONNECTING without my CLEAR DEMAND.
Then, please tell me what can make my Diamond want to connect.

You said u were playing around, so opening a page or checking and immediately unchecking weather download or any program using gprs would trigger the connection.. or mayme by accident pressed something..
It's done like that to increase your phone company's income
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)

Just delete the setting if nothing work, and use wifi...
I actually have unlimited 3G service, so i don't really care if it stayed connected or not (and battery is not really a issue for me..)

djind said:
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
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That's not going to help in this instance. Disabling auto-attachment merely stops the phone resgistering itself as a GPRS-enabled device with the network until it actually requires a data connection to be established. Hence, as soon as the OP's 'rogue app' requests a connection it will get one.
Tigrowski, sorry for the confusion - I was specifically answering your question of how to stop the phone connecting without your demand. I am not aware of an app that could identify this rogue app, but perhaps if you find a packet sniffer that'd give you some clues (i.e. from where the traffic is going, ports etc and, if using cleartext ASCII the actual data being sent).
All said and done though, I think you'd be better of just relying on NoData to put the barrier up as even when you've identified the rogue app you might not be able to make it behave. Besides which there'll likely be another one round the corner wanting to connect when it feels like it! (that was one of the reasons behind why NoData was developed, particularly for roaming users given the significant financial impact of out-of-control network-enabled apps)
Mathew
P.S. It's not QuickGPS periodically downloading almanac data is it? (check the setting as this can be controlled, although it should only be doing so weekly anyway)

How to stop internet connection

A silly question by a new user: how is it possible to stop an internet or data connection (no matter if hsdpa, edge, gprs) once started?
Thanks

use 'long key press' in settings, can be set to disconnect a data connection (sdpa, edge, gprs)

Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity

jack1985 said:
Use this program:
http://rapidshare.com/files/173250379/GPRS...onnect.CAB.html
The connection stop after 1 minutes of inactivity
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faulty url!
take this one:
GB-SOFT GPRS-UMTS_Tweak_WM6.1_Diamond
there you can choose the idle-time for disconnect

Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.

Poker85 said:
Anyway the manual stopping mode is to tap the bar that is on the top of the sceen...than tap the G E 3G or U icon and so you can tap disconnect.
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Cool, also in stead of holding the end call button, wich locks the phone in my case,
Dubbelclicking the end call button alse ends my edge connection.

In order for your end key to stop the connection, you have to go to Settings>System>Long Press End Key>Select Terminate data connection
Then when you press and hold your end key, it will end the connection

if you prefer to stop internetconnection by shortcut, try VJKeyPress.exe 126
this one toggles internet connection

i've searched and i've searched and i cant find the resolve!
after retrieving hotmail, the connection stays active, meaning bars are lit up. for HOURS after unless i long-press-end key or something like that. even when i am surfing the web, after a page is fully loaded, the bars stay lit. on my old diamond, the bars used to go gray or "dormant" etc. therefore no tweaks i have found help (i.e. most operate with this rule "if the connection is dormant/inactive for xx minutes, turn off data" etc. well my connection remains ACTIVE unless i manually intervene)
what is causing this??? i only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite installed. stock ROM.

hello? anyone? NO one is having the same issue or can help with this??? at this point i'd even be happy with a rude comment about how i should learn how to search coupled with a few links to threads which contain the answers! :\

I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection

number16 said:
I'm not sure I understand your question.
You're saying the connection stays alive after using mail or opera?
By default, WMo does not turn off data connection, so once you've made a data connection, it stays on.
Now, there are lots of programs out there that turns off data connection after a pre-set time. If you have Advanced Config on your Diamond, it's somewhere in there as well (I use SKTools and not Advacned Config so I can't point you exactly where, but it's there)
That said, many have tested battery drain and find that leaving the data connection ON or OFF makes absolutely no difference on the battery drain. It's only when you're transmitting data that drains more battery. Not sure if that's where you're coming from to want to turn off data connection
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number16, my savior! i'll try to explain as best i can: when the data connection is started/being used, those left-right arrows appear above the signal strength, correct? what i call "active" is when those arrows are lit (presumably when data is actually being transferred). what i call "dormant" is when the arrows are still there but are gray/not lit (i.e. connection is still open, but not currently transferring data). well, up until a 2 wks ago, all seemed fine - the arrows would briefly stay lit when downloading a page, connecting to hotmail, etc, but then would go gray once the transfer was complete. now however, the arrows stay lit. sometimes for hours at a time even tho nothing is running, no data (that i know of) is being transferred, etc.
so what i was saying is that, yes, i know i can long-press-end key to shut it down, but that only works if i notice it otherwise it's just draining my battery. (most times it is in my pocket, and since it checks hotmail periodically, the data connection may open and stay on without me noticing). and yes, i know about advanced config setting (and actually, i DO have it set to turn off after a minute) BUT that only applies if "connection is not active for more than a minute". i.e. since my whole problem is that my data connection technically stays active, that advanced config setting doesnt work.
so my question is, what is keeping the connection active? why is it doing this? i am running stock ROM and only have spb mobile shell and spb phone suite loaded. and a few other minor tweaks via advanced config/regedit. i even tried spb wireless monitor to see what was active after a data transfer was complete (as far as i could tell) but it didnt really tell me anything.
does all that make sense?
thanks for any help you can provide...

Is it normal for a mobile web conection to remian connected ALL the time?

Hi all,
I have enabled Data Connection on my TD2, but now the mobile remains connected all the time. I want to synchronise with exchange so have set this to happen every 15 mins, but the "mobile web" connection still remains connected.
Whilst I have a bolt on with my provider to allow unlimited web access, surely this will run down the battery super quick?
Cheers
Swin

It's normal and it's not wearing your battery down.

Use Advanced Config 3 to set a timeout:
Menu -> More settings -> Connections
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151

Is the Advanced Config 3 working with Topaz?

TeeBone said:
Is the Advanced Config 3 working with Topaz?
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It is for me.

andyturner said:
It's normal and it's not wearing your battery down.
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are you sure about this?
data connection have some influence on battery

giulo said:
are you sure about this?
data connection have some influence on battery
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When it is actively sending and receiving data, yes.
when sat there doing nothing, no.

JR_de said:
Use Advanced Config 3 to set a timeout:
Menu -> More settings -> Connections
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418151
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Seems to have done the job. If it doen't drain the battery, then its not to much of a problem, but it make me feel better.

Default WiFi timeout for topaz is 2mins
You can change using Advanced Config 3.3

giulo said:
are you sure about this?
data connection have some influence on battery
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Your phone has a constant connection over that radio signal anyway, for phone calls etc.. The icon is effectively saying that the data channel has been established over that same 'link'. Think of it like you've been assigned an IP address (which you have in fact).

Hi
Keeping the data connection valid may help reduce power consumption, as when you need to transfer data, time and power is saved by the phone not having to re-create a valid connection.
The phone companies prefer it remains connected as it reduces load on their systems as well.
Regards
Phil

[Q] How to disconnect WIFI automatically when phone suspends?

The ROM I use (wm6.5, 3.09 driver, M2.5) does not disconnect WiFi when it suspends. It drains the battery very quickly if I forget to turn off wifi. I wanna write a script to make this function (turn off wifi or not when suspending) a configurable choice, and then map to a hardware button.
I searched on web. They said that changing the key "HTCkeepwifionwhenunattended" to 0 can disconnect wifi automatically. Some of them said that this only works before next soft reset. But for me, whenever before or all after reset, it doesn't work at all. No matter the value of this key is 0 or 1, wifi connection is kept alive after suspending.
Any one tell me why? This is common or a special problem to my rom? any other methods to turn off wifi after suspend or some idle time?
Thank you guys a lot!!

anybody knows? help pls! big thanks

seaeyes said:
The ROM I use (wm6.5, 3.09 driver, M2.5) does not disconnect WiFi when it suspends. It drains the battery very quickly if I forget to turn off wifi. I wanna write a script to make this function (turn off wifi or not when suspending) a configurable choice, and then map to a hardware button.
I searched on web. They said that changing the key "HTCkeepwifionwhenunattended" to 0 can disconnect wifi automatically. Some of them said that this only works before next soft reset. But for me, whenever before or all after reset, it doesn't work at all. No matter the value of this key is 0 or 1, wifi connection is kept alive after suspending.
Any one tell me why? This is common or a special problem to my rom? any other methods to turn off wifi after suspend or some idle time?
Thank you guys a lot!!
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you should just use the Touch X DataDisconnect

TWEAK Reply
For the longest time, I had the opposite problem: I was forever annoyed that the WLAN would automatically disconnect every time I turned the device off. Then I found two very handy utilities that can fix (or unfix, in your case) that and many many other things. I use Advanced Config and DiamondTweak. Incredibly useful pieces of software.
- 2 Bunny

Hakim Rahman said:
you should just use the Touch X DataDisconnect
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Thanks for the reply. But this is not what i need. I want wifi disconnect automatically when screen goes black. I often forget to turn the wifi off and after a few hours finding battery drained.

seaeyes said:
Thanks for the reply. But this is not what i need. I want wifi disconnect automatically when screen goes black. I often forget to turn the wifi off and after a few hours finding battery drained.
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then you try to use ACT v3.3

Hakim Rahman said:
then you try to use ACT v3.3
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I installed it. Is "turn off wifi if no activity" the right item? I change the value to Yes, and "wifi auto off timeout" is set to 30 seconds. But it still doesn't work

seaeyes said:
I installed it. Is "turn off wifi if no activity" the right item? I change the value to Yes, and "wifi auto off timeout" is set to 30 seconds. But it still doesn't work
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you try to change the setting from the ACT v3.3

Hakim Rahman said:
you try to change the setting from the ACT v3.3
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I find the place. It's in ACT's menu->more settings, uncheck "keep wifi on when standby". However, it still doesn't work...
Probably this setting just modifies "HTCkeepwifionwhenunattended" in the registry， which seems not make any difference in my system.
I'm going crazy...

I finally find the reason. That's because this ROM doesn't use the default wifi switch interface. It wrote its own .exe program to turn on and off the wifi, maybe by which it bypasses the registry tweaks.
By using the system wifi switches, the modification of registry works.

seaeyes said:
I finally find the reason. That's because this ROM doesn't use the default wifi switch interface. It wrote its own .exe program to turn on and off the wifi, maybe by which it bypasses the registry tweaks.
By using the system wifi switches, the modification of registry works.
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why you don't try Bandswitch...??
Bandswitch has a function Take control of your connections: Switch between 2G-3G Enable and disable connections. Disabling connections makes imposible to use them so you know they wont generate traffic data. Stablish and close connections. Set a time frame where connections wont be allowed (ie, when you are sleeping) saving money and battery.. Turn off/on Bluetooth and Wifi with or without time limite. When the limit expires then It is set to off state
but if you want to know the registry tweak to disable or enable the wifi connection , like here HKLM\COMM\TNETWLN1\Parms\dot11SupportedRateMask = 1 (DWORD decimal) is enabled

seaeyes said:
The ROM I use (wm6.5, 3.09 driver, M2.5) does not disconnect WiFi when it suspends. It drains the battery very quickly if I forget to turn off wifi. I wanna write a script to make this function (turn off wifi or not when suspending) a configurable choice, and then map to a hardware button.
I searched on web. They said that changing the key "HTCkeepwifionwhenunattended" to 0 can disconnect wifi automatically. Some of them said that this only works before next soft reset. But for me, whenever before or all after reset, it doesn't work at all. No matter the value of this key is 0 or 1, wifi connection is kept alive after suspending.
Any one tell me why? This is common or a special problem to my rom? any other methods to turn off wifi after suspend or some idle time?
Thank you guys a lot!!
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In advanced config app,under the Network sub category you will find "Wi-fi auto off timeout".Set the time as per your requirements.