I have an un-locked TyTn II that has an annoying screen problem. At least once a day, the touch screen will stop working. The device continues to function normally using buttons and/or the keyboard, but the touch screen function is dead.
In every case, I have been able to revive the touch screen by using buttons to navigate to the screen alignment settings and then use my finger to scroll around the screen till it comes back to life. Once the screen alignment program comes back to life, I align the screen and go about my business.
I have a fair amount of Spb software installed, but I had the same problem before installing any of the Spb software, so on the surface, I'm ruling that stuff out.
I have Kaiser Tweak and Paul's Tweak installed.
Any idea's would be greatly appreaciated.
Maybe this thread will help?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337979
Thanks for your reply.
The thread you provided appears to be focused about "complete" freezing. My device continues to work as long as I use buttons and/or the keyboard. Once I align the screen, the device goes back to normal operation.
So my only complaint so far is the screen sensativity.
I know this doesnt use a capacitive screen, so it needs physical pressure, but it seems to me the glass on the top of the screen makes it need alot more pressure than i'm used to. The middle of the screen seems to be more sensative, and the outside less sensative.
You can test this by putting your finger down on HOME in touchflo, then scrolling to programs and back again. If you pres hard, it will go back and forth. If you use less pressure at home and programs it will load the programs or home screen, as if you released your finger.
So i know there's two reg keys for this:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel
By doing a screen slignment and pressing hard with the stylus i get a lower value here, and by pressing lightly i get a higher value here.
So high value = detects lighter press, low value - needs harder press
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
This i'm confused about. I tried setting it to 0, 2, 14, 200, 255, 600, and there's not noticable difference as far as i can see.
Is there some sort of program that can read the the pressure from the screen and display it? This would help make the tests alot more scientific!
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
Screen sensitivty
Spawn12 said:
Someone posted this tip in the tips and tweaks thread above...maybe useful to you??
One tip for changing the sensitivity if you don't want to mess around in the registry:
- run the Align Screen setting (under Settings/System/ Screen)
- when you press on the 'targets' with the stylus, use VERY light pressure...just enough that the tap is accepted
- I usually tap a few times on each target, starting too lightly, and then gradually increasing the pressure until the tap is taken
- do this for each of the 5 targets
I found this seems to make the Diamond calibrate a higher sensitivity for its touch-screen, so finger touches can be much lighter.
This is probably a safer way to change the sensitivity, as you don't risk putting an invalid number into the registry.
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Tried that, and its really works. Thank a lots.
someone1234 said:
Thanks, i already tried that.
Can someone tell me their value for this key?
HKLM\Software\OEM\TFLOSettings\fingurepressure
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the value is 19 in uk device rom.
vijayvasa said:
the value is 19 in uk device rom.
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19 decimal?
I've just about had enough of this touchflo.. pretty but soooo anoying to use
Today on about 3 ocasions i was navigating through it and got a call.. the lights on the touch wheel were flashing and it was playing the ringtone, but the whole phone was frozen for about 4 seconds. Eventually the call popped up and i was able to answer!
I think i'm going to diable it and do my best to make the rest pretty.
You just have to be patient...the roms are not mature yet...
In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
I also am trying to find out the best way to configure the finger sensitivity.
HastaSSSS
s1rl4ncel0t said:
In 3 months you'll see that Diamond will be the best phone out there
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yeah but 3 months is a long time... i have to do something to stop myself smashing the phone on the floor on frustration!
for now i'm going to disable touch flow, and i'll come back to it when a new rom comes out.
Have you tried the new rom 1.37.XXX ?
Bye
I have a UK diamond.. so it came with 1.37.405.1
I've just done the "light tap" trick, and now it's perfect...
Could it be that you have a defective device?
Bye
Its better with that 'trick' but still anoying. I have a feeling i'm just too used to a capacitive screen.
The wierd thing is with the light tap the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Drivers\TouchPanel ends up back to 30 to 50 decimal.
i only bought it today yet im seriously thinking of taking it back. The iPhone is just the better product, and always will be, unless Microsoft and the software developers get as passionate as those at apple.
Its Laggy
Its un-intuative
The touch screen isnt as sensitive as it should be. (why are they still using resistive touchscreens)
And the opera browser isnt all that either, it doesnt redraw quick enough for the full page display thing to really be all that impressive on zoom in/out and leaves chessboard squared at it struggles and chuggs to redraw.. . .not great, not when the comptetition is as good as it is. . . . .im thinking 3G Iphone, ****ty camera or not.
Loose the 6.1 and stop trying to polish that turd with TouchFlo's. Yeah good effort, but it just aint good enough
J
WM is just a huge resource hog. The touchflo is slow because its a plugin for the today screen, which then calls on windows API's to draw onto the screen.
Its such a long long way round to get to the hardware that its just slow no matter how well u code.
I just hope someone ports android to the diamond, because the hardware is amazing, the OS is a pile of ****!
BTW they use resistive touchscreens to have increased touch resolution. Also a stylus wouldnt work with a capacitive screen.
I prefer to work with resistive LCD than capacitive...
The capacitive have better sensibility, but are less precise...
Although the Diamond LCD is not as sensitive as a capacitive, it's sensitive enough to work well with the fingers...
It's just a matter of tweaking.
HastaSSSS
Resistive screens use a grid of conductive material, sandwitched between the glass and a conductive layer. They alternatly pass an electrical current on each line of the grid along the x and y axis. When you press the screen you touch this grid onto the conductive layer and the current passes through it, which is detected. You can make resistive screen that have a very high resolution of detection, and the resolution is always what you design it to be.
Resistive screens are pressure sensative, and by design can't handle multi-touch.
Capacitive screens use glass coated with a conductive coating. The edges of the screen are connected to conducters. Each conducter has a different frequency oscilator connected.
The capacitance of a human finger changes the impedance of the screen, and so changes the frequency of the oscillator circuit. This gets converted to distance from each oscillator and so a co-ordinate.
The resolution is limited by how acuratly you can detect changes.
Typically in electronics very small changes are hard to measure because they are indistiguishable from noise.
Capacitive screens can handle multi-touch, but the resolution of each touch is decreased in that case.
Capacitive screen resolution is not absolute and can change with increased noise in the system, or by multiple capapcitive effects on the screen - like multiple touches.
I am currently using Touch Cruise. Would it be a serious upgrade to TD2? I am very much concerned about the lack of D-pad. Even with the D-pad the use of cruise is difficult. Is the screen improved?
From some reviews I read that the screen is so large and finger friendly that it negates the use of a D-Pad.
You should go for it. I upgraded from a Touch Cruise and the D2 is a far superior phone. It is far more responsive than the laggy Cruise and the screen is very high definition - almost excessively. You can read web pages even when zoomed out if your eyes are good enough.
I still reach for the dpad sometimes out of habit but I don't really miss it. Everything is do-able without, you just need to get used to it.
The D2 didn't feel much smaller than the cruise when I first upgraded but now when I look at my old cruise it looks fat and bloated and the screen pixels looks very blocky.
I do miss the rubbery feel though of the cruise since the D2 is very slippery.
If you use programmable buttons much you will be disappointed with the D2's single button compared to about 5 on the cruise. Although there are free solutions to this available.
Honestly, there's no comparison! The UI is instantaneous with everything you do. Press a number on the dial pad and it instantly registers. Press call end and the call is GONE! No waiting 2-3 seconds anymore. When you slide your finger in the photo album to swipe to the next picture the photo moves WITH your finger. With the TC you made the swipe and then waited for the next picture to appear.
These are just the benefits I can think of now.
I'm coming from a cruise too, and just loving my D2! The UI is indeed perfect. I was affraid of the accessability of some functions, when not having a D-pad, but it's just no problem in everyday use.
All daily windows menus have been replaced by larger ones, easily clickable with your finger. That includes the menus that are used in third-party programs. I was affraid about having to do a lot of actions to block the phone, when putting it in my pocket. But actually you just press and hold the end-button to block the device very quickly. There are big improvements like for instance the great TF3D, but also small ones. For instance, the D2 displays a small bluetooth icon in the taskbar, when BT is on. It even shows a different icon when the device is connected to a headset or carkit. On my cruise I always wondered about BT-status. The start menu is replaced by a bigger icon one. That one is adjustable, you can place 24 of your favorite apps there, 15 off them fit in the screen directly, for more you have to scroll. The other apps are accessable when you hit 'all'. Then the whole start menu appears, but again: larger. The TF3D home screen shows the next 3 appointments, whereas TF2D versions for the cruise always showed only 1. The TF3D calendar doesn't fit my needs though, so I'm still looking for a replacement.
On my cruise I was using a tiny program called taskswitch, which I assigned to a hardware button, to switch between applications. I use that when driving. I'll typically have at least two apps open (navigation software and Opera for live traffic information) and want to switch between them easily while keeping my attention on the road. The lack of buttons prevents that solution now, but there is a better one: AE button plus. I assigned the built-in task manager to the hardware back button and that works great! Then I assigned the function "OK/enter" to the same button, but when pressing and holding it. Now it all works fantastically.
On my cruise I have tried several ROM's. No one was perfect at all. Opera would crash often, the Youtube apps I tried would be slow and crash often. I was using the stylus all day. The Topaz isn't just better IMO, it's a whole new era.
Just one addition: a downside is the poorer radio reception. Radio reception for GSM and wifi is worse than the cruise. I'm hoping it will improve at some time with a radio ROM update. It's not bad, but it's not as good as the cruise.
I recently purchased a Vogue off of ebay and tried out the SD Card version of Android running Incubus26Jc's Super FroYo 2.2. I wanted to do this before installing to NAND to try it out. After trying it out for a bit I noticed that the touchscreen is not that sensitive.
For example, if I try to swipe with my finger from left to right to get to the second home screen it requires me to swipe from the very edge of the device (if I don't do a swipe across the whole screen it doesn't work well) and push down hard (as compared to another newer device like the iPod Touch). Tapping the screen works fine. Other things I noticed about the screen is it isn't easy to view it at an angle and pressing down with my finger sometimes changes the color of the area immediately around the finger.
My question is whether the device is faulty (in which case I will try to return it to the seller) or is that just the nature of this older touch screen. Or maybe it has to do with the fact that it is installed to SD so it is slower to respond?
no there is nothing wrong with your phone.. the vogue uses a resistive touch screen witch requires a little more pressure than say the itouch or any new touch screen device... they have a capacitive touch screen witch uses electric currents i think.. i prefer a capacitive. but try the screen calibration app and press lightly that might fix your problem
and you shouldn't press very hard they could really mess up your screen
Try using your fingernail instead of pressing harder.
Sent from my European Vogue using XDA App
Hello to all, am going to ask if anybody of you have a problem in Diamond or TPs Touch Capacitive Pad? I used this app
Nav Debug Tool by HTC
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2511016
To check out this multi touch stuff in my TP (though I know before that it has a multi touch feature, I just want to check if it's working properly) but it seems that the pad has a problem. The problem was sometimes, it can register my touch and most of the time, not.. sometimes it can register the multi touch, and most of the time, not .. even the nav wheel has a problem which doesn't register the rotation most of the time. Is this a common problem in Diamond or even in TPs??
I even use the signed os WM6.1 but still has a problem.. so I wonder if any of you guys having the same..
thanks!