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AT&T Closing The IS/Tethering Loophole

Its my understanding with the Tilt / Kaiser /TyTN II / Whatever-They-Want-To-Call-This-Beast-of-Burden that using Internet Sharing, AT&T couldn't track tethering except through extreme data usage. Well, according to a feature sheet for 6.1 that I noticed in another thread, in 6.1 AT&T will be able to track tethering through IS and bill accordingly! No more tethering my laptop when I'm on the Greyhound.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=68817&d=1202112855

Stick with WM6?

I'm ticked because I just flashed to a 6.1 ROM only to find that out.

or just get the unlimited pda pkg.

Alemaker said:
or just get the unlimited pda pkg.
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Doesn't exist anymore. They've soft capped at 5GB.

Wow!!
Then yup, that stinks.
Got my phone in October, thx for that info-not changin my plan

Alemaker said:
or just get the unlimited pda pkg.
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AT&T considers "tethering" a computer a separate account/line thus unlimited which I have, technically does not allow tethering. So that's why they bend ya over for more money to use tethering with a computer. The computer is technically another line/account.
...I did say technically

Alemaker said:
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well wut if u haad the unlim. pda package and u say now they are capping it. Does the price go down? or am i still paying the 50 bucks.

doesnt it say also have?
it says "enable DUN to be used on devices that also have internet sharing." wouldn't that mean you would have a choice of which option to use.

Looks more like DUN uses IS instead of bypassing it as it does now with 6.0. Currently, you can't track DUN data usage on the phone but the carrier still sees it.
I don't see what difference this new change makes except BT DUN is not longer the bastard, red-headed step-child anymore.

Doesn't seem like a huge problem. Just use a non-AT&T firmware.

I'm confused. I tether using PAN with my Tilt. Does this new feature mean they can track usage of DUN, or both DUN and PAN? So should I be worried that I now have 6.1 on my Tilt?

i am going to florida for four days and i want to tether on my laptop so i can sling box on the comp. If i am caught tethering what is the penalty/charge? if one time monthly charge it might be worth it. also are there any pre-paid wireless internet plans from att or anywhere else?

It's a matter of time before someone cooks a rom or makes a cab that hinders or disables the reporting that you are tethering.
fizzie said:
why they bend ya over for more money to use tethering with a computer. The computer is technically another line/account.
...I did say technically
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But thats the thing.
Technically it is NOT another line NOR account. Why do you think you have to run ICS application for the whole thing to work? It's an application that simply makes any request from your PC be made on the phone natively.
When you connect to port 23 from your computer to a domain -- your phone is simply making that socket connection, and then passing everything back to your PC. It's a proxy program.
So technically, while you play Quake 3 -- your phone is doing the work. Not another telephone, not another line. Nope, the traffic would be the same if you were playing Quake natively on your device. The ICS program just sends outbound anything from your PC and inbound anything to the device.
So I think it is poor business to charge for something just because a program on your PHONE is running. ****, they already charge $50 bucks for unlimited PDA internet, and they cap it at 5 gigs on their network. That doesn't even include tethering! With 50 bucks I can get cable or DSL.
ATT is a damn ripoff. I need to find another US carrier ASAP.

Im confused and somewhat lost....
You know... I tether almost all school day on my tilt and have no problem. I have the 40 dollar Unlimited internet plan and although, may not be the fastest thing around, but for 1.5Mb speed, I cant complain. Im also on ATT btw. I also check my bill every day as well, and havent had a charge for it (knock on wood if I am just lucky then... )

That is definitely something that would have to be implemented through the OAL. That means it's bypassable. It will still just look like data to the phone.

masterdude656 said:
You know... I tether almost all school day on my tilt and have no problem. I have the 40 dollar Unlimited internet plan and although, may not be the fastest thing around, but for 1.5Mb speed, I cant complain. Im also on ATT btw. I also check my bill every day as well, and havent had a charge for it (knock on wood if I am just lucky then... )
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Haha.. yeah me too, i teather pritty much every day at school as well, and wats worse is that i am paying for the 20 dollar MediaMax 200 plan.. i tell my friends in Europe that and laugh in thier face about it too. i used to do it way b4 the tilt came out with my 8525.. lovin the 3G.
Att is to profitable a company for me not to tether.
(and i do use all of my text everymonth as well)

TurboX2 said:
Haha.. yeah me too, i teather pritty much every day at school as well, and wats worse is that i am paying for the 20 dollar MediaMax 200 plan.. i tell my friends in Europe that and laugh in thier face about it too. i used to do it way b4 the tilt came out with my 8525.. lovin the 3G.
Att is to profitable a company for me not to tether.
(and i do use all of my text everymonth as well)
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Awesome, so im not alone on this one good to know now!

jon_k said:
It's a matter of time before someone cooks a rom or makes a cab that hinders or disables the reporting that you are tethering.
But thats the thing.
Technically it is NOT another line NOR account. Why do you think you have to run ICS application for the whole thing to work? It's an application that simply makes any request from your PC be made on the phone natively.
When you connect to port 23 from your computer to a domain -- your phone is simply making that socket connection, and then passing everything back to your PC. It's a proxy program.
So technically, while you play Quake 3 -- your phone is doing the work. Not another telephone, not another line. Nope, the traffic would be the same if you were playing Quake natively on your device. The ICS program just sends outbound anything from your PC and inbound anything to the device.
So I think it is poor business to charge for something just because a program on your PHONE is running. ****, they already charge $50 bucks for unlimited PDA internet, and they cap it at 5 gigs on their network. That doesn't even include tethering! With 50 bucks I can get cable or DSL.
ATT is a damn ripoff. I need to find another US carrier ASAP.
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I wouldnt go that far...until T-Mo gets their 3G in the USA ATT is the lesser of 2 evils (and yes I'm not even including Sprint, they are dead)

Does ATT have ANY unlimited data plans?
EDIT: I was just at ATT's website and they still have MEdia Net unlimited for 15.00 a month and 200 Texts for 5.00 a month. There is also a plan called MEdia Net Max that comes with both for 20.00 a month. Now, if WM6.1 will only allow ATT to monitor the data then isn't the choice clear? Stick with 6.0 or a non ATT rom. Correct? If I'm wrong somewhere, please correct.
Oh also, I'm with a company that offers ATT but I am not billed directly by ATT and this company has their OWN plans. I just use ATTs network. This is ALSO an option. I once used over 10GBs of data tethering with my 8525. I was never charged more than my current plan. $20.00

is unbranding tilt for att carrier moot?

hi:
so, att will sell me unlimited data plan for 15$ addon to current voice plan..UNLESS im using att smartphone (tilt).
i was gonna get tilt, unlock , unbrand, reflash--whatever..
then i hear that they will always know that i use their smartphone anyway and charge me 30$ / month... as someone said "like charging 8$ for gas cuz i gotta V8"
-------this doesnt make sense cuz i could always buy cheaper plan and plug sim into laptop w/proper card and not get data capable phone--but whatever-------
so, bottom line == is there a workaround to absolutely disguise the tilt?
thanx

amkaos said:
hi:
so, att will sell me unlimited data plan for 15$ addon to current voice plan..UNLESS im using att smartphone (tilt).
i was gonna get tilt, unlock , unbrand, reflash--whatever..
then i hear that they will always know that i use their smartphone anyway and charge me 30$ / month... as someone said "like charging 8$ for gas cuz i gotta V8"
-------this doesnt make sense cuz i could always buy cheaper plan and plug sim into laptop w/proper card and not get data capable phone--but whatever-------
so, bottom line == is there a workaround to absolutely disguise the tilt?
thanx
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Look here, you need to search. You really wasted your first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336429
Giving you this link goes against my better judgment. NEXT TIME SEARCH

KD8DNS said:
Look here, you need to search. You really wasted your first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336429
Giving you this link goes against my better judgment. NEXT TIME SEARCH
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You've gone soft man

Use Media Net Plan with Tilt
amkaos said:
hi:
so, att will sell me unlimited data plan for 15$ addon to current voice plan..UNLESS im using att smartphone (tilt).
i was gonna get tilt, unlock , unbrand, reflash--whatever..
then i hear that they will always know that i use their smartphone anyway and charge me 30$ / month... as someone said "like charging 8$ for gas cuz i gotta V8"
-------this doesnt make sense cuz i could always buy cheaper plan and plug sim into laptop w/proper card and not get data capable phone--but whatever-------
so, bottom line == is there a workaround to absolutely disguise the tilt?
thanx
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Well I have had Cingular/AT&T for almost 3 years now. From start to present had a pda style phone with the same data plan I had when I ordered Cingular, which was Unlimited Media Net 200. Media Net unlimited data and 200 txt messages... My first phone as you see in my sig with cing is the Blue Angel SX-66 and now the AT&T Tilt which I have had for 2 months now.
Said all that to say this.. for almost 3 years.. have only paid $19.99 for that data plan and have used at most 895mb of data transfer. So I don't know how they do there thing or not but I have had no trouble with using my PDA phone with the Media Net Data Plan.
(Now that I said that, there gonna charge me.. )

KD8DNS said:
Look here, you need to search. You really wasted your first post.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=336429
Giving you this link goes against my better judgment. NEXT TIME SEARCH
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thnx for the fast response.. i did search and i probly wasnt clear in question..
the thread you gave seemed different than my question -- the 15$ (unlimited media net) AND the 30$ plan they offer are Both for unlimited data.. the only difference they told me was smart phones have keyboard and thats what they charge extra for.. the rep exactly did say i could tether on the 15$ quote unlimited w/o probs or issues..
so , im back to orig query..
thanx

police22 said:
Well I have had Cingular/AT&T for almost 3 years now. From start to present had a pda style phone with the same data plan I had when I ordered Cingular, which was Unlimited Media Net 200. Media Net unlimited data and 200 txt messages... My first phone as you see in my sig with cing is the Blue Angel SX-66 and now the AT&T Tilt which I have had for 2 months now.
Said all that to say this.. for almost 3 years.. have only paid $19.99 for that data plan and have used at most 895mb of data transfer. So I don't know how they do there thing or not but I have had no trouble with using my PDA phone with the Media Net Data Plan.
(Now that I said that, there gonna charge me.. )
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the first thing i think of is that you are grandfathered in that particular plan, as i am grandfathered in the cheap voice plan of over 8yrs--which is why i dont wanna leave or change plans..

wait,, are you talking about "connect your phone using the Internet Sharing program"? or is this something else?
the real issue im thinking of :: they know that i use their smartphone and they will charge me extra just because of that fact--not the amount i use.. unlimited data is unlimited data..
--im trying,, but i hafto try harder cuz im stupid
thanx

Yes Talking About Tethering
amkaos said:
wait,, are you talking about "connect your phone using the Internet Sharing program"? or is this something else?
the real issue im thinking of :: they know that i use their smartphone and they will charge me extra just because of that fact--not the amount i use.. unlimited data is unlimited data..
--im trying,, but i hafto try harder cuz im stupid
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Well let me say this.. I am a truck driver and gone most of 4-5 days a week.. My laptop is connected through my TILT with Internet Sharing 24 hours a day during that week. Hence the reason why I use so much data. Almost a gig/month. I also own my own computer business and do website builds and maintance. So I NEED the internet... Between my co-driver and myself we put alot of miles so we use alot of internet to do research or what have you.. So yes to point out this is connecting my phone with a usb cable and using internet sharing to connect my laptop to the internet. I used Comm Manager on my SX-66 but didn't like the fact that the phone would become disable per say cause the phone was a modem at that point. As with Internet Sharing if you get a phone call the data is put on hold... Nice!!! So I don't miss a call...

police22 said:
Well let me say this.. I am a truck driver and gone most of 4-5 days a week.. My laptop is connected through my TILT with Internet Sharing 24 hours a day during that week. Hence the reason why I use so much data. Almost a gig/month. I also own my own computer business and do website builds and maintance. So I NEED the internet... Between my co-driver and myself we put alot of miles so we use alot of internet to do research or what have you.. So yes to point out this is connecting my phone with a usb cable and using internet sharing to connect my laptop to the internet. I used Comm Manager on my SX-66 but didn't like the fact that the phone would become disable per say cause the phone was a modem at that point. As with Internet Sharing if you get a phone call the data is put on hold... Nice!!! So I don't miss a call...
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so, youre saying that using internet sharing, there is no way to disable phone or make incoming calls just go to voice mail? if data is on hold, i assume that the site would support resume, if it doesnt, you would have to reload and start over w/whatever you are doing?

police22 said:
Well I have had Cingular/AT&T for almost 3 years now. From start to present had a pda style phone with the same data plan I had when I ordered Cingular, which was Unlimited Media Net 200. Media Net unlimited data and 200 txt messages... My first phone as you see in my sig with cing is the Blue Angel SX-66 and now the AT&T Tilt which I have had for 2 months now.
Said all that to say this.. for almost 3 years.. have only paid $19.99 for that data plan and have used at most 895mb of data transfer. So I don't know how they do there thing or not but I have had no trouble with using my PDA phone with the Media Net Data Plan.
(Now that I said that, there gonna charge me.. )
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Been using this for over a year now. Never had an issue. And I have slaved it to my laptop to share the connection before. I think I only average around 100mb per month though.

JimmyMcGee said:
You've gone soft man
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Figured ive give a NOOB a break.

Higher data usage = more likely to get flagged as abusing the service.
My experience with it has been they wont hunt down people who do 'occasional' tethering -- light usage once in a while...
When someone starts to abuse that data connection, the account gets a flag for someone to look into it eventually..
A "Razr v3" as you report to AT&T Using 20 MB of data/month is not gonna get much concern.
A "Razr v3" using over 700MB/month will probably get looked into closely....
Changing your phone VIA your account online will not change the numbers they have reported in their system. If you received a Tilt as an upgrade then swapped back to an older phone, they can see these records. In most cases they wont 'hunt' people down for small/limited abuse.
But, it is against the terms of service -- so they reserve the right to.
Like speeding, it's okay until you get caught.. and if you do, hope you get off with a warning and be more careful next time. Alternatively, just pay for the service if you like it and use it (at least that's my stand on it).

altho i appreciate the replies, y'all seem to not get what im puttin down..they told me that data usage is not an issue--its the type of device (smartphone or not); this was reps words..
but all the replies seem to tell me that if i just call and add unlimited media net or whatever its called, thats good enuf.
if they ask what device ill use, i'll tell 'em that i havent decided or something like that ..
does this make sense?
thanx

amkaos said:
altho i appreciate the replies, y'all seem to not get what im puttin down..they told me that data usage is not an issue--its the type of device (smartphone or not); this was reps words..
but all the replies seem to tell me that if i just call and add unlimited media net or whatever its called, thats good enuf.
if they ask what device ill use, i'll tell 'em that i havent decided or something like that ..
does this make sense?
thanx
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You can just change it all online and add media net or whatever data plan you want with out talking to anyone.. That is what I did when I added Data to my wifes fone.
And yes data does matter.. Your using there bandwidth so the more you use the more your suppose to pay. That is why if you have a PDA/Smartphone then they know it will be using more data and therefore you need a data plan to acomidate the phone. These types of phones have more features and will use more data than a regular phone. That is why they want you to use a higher data plan with more bandwidth.
Just like if you had someone hosting your website. The more bandwidth you use the more you pay. Usually $5 - $10 per gig.. Depending on host.
So like I said, I use a LOT of bandwidth on my tilt.. I use the Trackme for GPS on this site. Listen to streaming radio, use MobiTV. ETC.. so not just my laptop but the phone itself gets used alot too... and been doing this for almost 3 years on the same data plan..
amkaos said:
altho i appreciate the replies, y'all seem to not get what im puttin down..they told me that data usage is not an issue--its the type of device (smartphone or not); this was reps words..
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I bet if you call and ask a diff rep the same question, you will get a different response..

Im tired of reading this thread, I am a regional technician for AT&T, I fully understand "what u puttin down" use a old phone razr, whatever u got. go to a store and have them update your account with the "razr" imei. Then tell the sales rep you want media net unlimited 15.00mo. He will be happy to do it since he gets commision on features. then when you get home put your sim in your tilt and stop complaning.
Have a nice 15.00 a month year.
KD8DNS

KD8DNS said:
Im tired of reading this thread, I am a regional technician for AT&T, I fully understand "what u puttin down" use a old phone razr, whatever u got. go to a store and have them update your account with the "razr" imei. Then tell the sales rep you want media net unlimited 15.00mo. He will be happy to do it since he gets commision on features. then when you get home put your sim in your tilt and stop complaning.
Have a nice 15.00 a month year.
KD8DNS
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thnx... you are either real funny (which i get and how i choose to react) .
my current phone is 8ys old and not data capable..
im gonna try police22 idea. if that doesnt work, i'll do by phone..
thnx

amkaos said:
thnx... you are either real funny (which i get and how i choose to react) .
my current phone is 8ys old and not data capable..
im gonna try police22 idea. if that doesnt work, i'll do by phone..
thnx
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Listen, I told you that im a tech for AT&T, that should be justification. If you do it over the net, it will not update the imei and they will be prone to catching you. UPDATE THE IMEI, even to the non data phone.

KD8DNS said:
Listen, I told you that im a tech for AT&T, that should be justification. If you do it over the net, it will not update the imei and they will be prone to catching you. UPDATE THE IMEI, even to the non data phone.
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ok... i think i get it now.. youre saying that razr aint data phone either and it doesnt matter what kinda phone it is..
sorry im stupid.. this is my first look at updating my phone since i got it 8 yrs ago..but i aint skeered to tinker or look stupid doing so..
i will ask bunch 0 questions till i get it..
thanx for patience..

Wait..so teh sprint nav/tv app will increase the bill right?

So i was wondering before i use or find either i was wondering if there will be a spike in my bill,well i have unlim data but,i know for a fact tmo doesnt offer telenav for the g1.Will i get a hidden fee or something i have hero_over 1.1r3 now w/cyan 1.4 mod.Also tmo changed the 3g here in ny so will either even work?

If you can teether and do whatever you like with the connection, I'm sure they aren't going to care about sprint nav/tv, unless it's a premium service?

sturmeh said:
If you can teether and do whatever you like with the connection, I'm sure they aren't going to care about sprint nav/tv, unless it's a premium service?
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wont they notice the large date usage?

Ace42 said:
wont they notice the large date usage?
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Of course but for all they know your surfing porn.

Unlimited data is unlimited data......Unless it's unlimited data with a fair usage policy. Sprint TV will use (approximately) the same amount of data as the YouTube app, since that comes with the device I highly doubt it. Read the fine print.....

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Yeah they will and they will throttle your account because of the fair use policy but it doesn't do anything...
I go over 10gb every month tethering my laptop (I like to watch porn on a bigger screen) and it never slows down...one of the TMO reps thought it was from Gtalk running all the time...
Didn't sprint shut down the tv for non sprint customers tho?

wait but wat about telenav(sprint)? Will that be a extra charge on my bill or will it stay the same since i have tmobile unlim data.

I use it every time I leave town, along with tethering and downloading crap to my phone every day. I assume your on the same android plan I'm on...unlimitwd data.

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I use it every time I leave town, along with tethering and downloading crap to my phone every day. I assume your on the same android plan I'm on...unlimitwd data.
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yeah the 29.99 extra android plan, thnks il try telenav

Could this be the NEXT BIG WIRELESS PROVIDER???

http://www.republicwireless.com/
i am quite curious about this, but rather reserved in taking the plunge... what do yall think?

i find it hard to believe that no one has any thought on this...

Interesting...
1 time fee of 199 which includes phone then only 19 bucks!!!
I wonder how good the cellular service is when not on wifi?
Looks to be cool, i just want to see a coverage map for when i don't have wifi

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Interesting...
1 time fee of 199 which includes phone then only 19 bucks!!!
I wonder how good the cellular service is when not on wifi?
Looks to be cool, i just want to see a coverage map for when i don't have wifi
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from what i have researched it will fall back on sprints 3g network, but they are also looking to expand it to fall back on other networks as well to expand their markets

irrelephant said:
from what i have researched it will fall back on sprints 3g network, but they are also looking to expand it to fall back on other networks as well to expand their markets
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20 bucks a month for unlimited calls and data on sprint 3g network
Sign me up if thats the case

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20 bucks a month for unlimited calls and data on sprint 3g network
Sign me up if thats the case
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well you do have to maintain a yet unknown wifi to cell provider ratio, wifi being used more, so i am just waiting till the beta period is over to see what this is really all about, but it is still very interesting!

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well you do have to maintain a yet unknown wifi to cell provider ratio, wifi being used more, so i am just waiting till the beta period is over to see what this is really all about, but it is still very interesting!
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ya i read that, one thing i probaly wont be able to do on that network is tether, i mean i don't often tether but i do use it when im fixing network issues on other peoples computers or on vacation on the road

davidrules7778 said:
ya i read that, one thing i probaly wont be able to do on that network is tether, i mean i don't often tether but i do use it when im fixing network issues on other peoples computers or on vacation on the road
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that is why i have clear wireless hotspot! connect up to 8 devices to the 4g/3g net

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that is why i have clear wireless hotspot! connect up to 8 devices to the 4g/3g net
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for 30 bucks or more a month
i have that on my phone for free Hotspot Hack FTW

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for 30 bucks or more a month
i have that on my phone for free Hotspot Hack FTW
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that you may, and i do too, but it doesnt allow the throughput that my hotspot does... i get some 20+down/5-9 up

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that you may, and i do too, but it doesnt allow the throughput that my hotspot does... i get some 20+up/5-9 down
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WHAT?!?!?!
20 up
How much u pay for that?

davidrules7778 said:
WHAT?!?!?!
20 up
How much u pay for that?
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my bad it is the reverse i will edit that

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my bad it is the reverse i will edit that
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i was going to say 4g doesn't give that type of speed at least not on clear. Plus i dont seem to have clear coverage in my area. So my free one will be fine

I have the T-Mobile Sonic MiFi... I get about 17-20Mbps down and 1.8 Mbps up. I pay 62$ for ten gigs after all my discounts including taxes and fees....
Also, the phone Republic Wireless is offering is the LG Optimus...ew.
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Babydoll25 said:
I have the T-Mobile Sonic MiFi... I get about 17-20Mbps down and 1.8 Mbps up. I pay 62$ for ten gigs after all my discounts including taxes and fees....
Also, the phone Republic Wireless is offering is the LG Optimus...ew.
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2 pricy!!! for not as much speed as my internet at home, i know its mobile and fast but not going to fork over that much for something i hardly ever use, i mean 3g and 4g tethering for free is cool. Just i don't use it often so paying 62 bucks a month whereas thats how much my cable fast internet at my house is.
i say na.......

Babydoll25 said:
I have the T-Mobile Sonic MiFi... I get about 17-20Mbps down and 1.8 Mbps up. I pay 62$ for ten gigs after all my discounts including taxes and fees....
Also, the phone Republic Wireless is offering is the LG Optimus...ew.
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i know, i too hate lg phones, but, and its a big but... i would like to see how the service is and if they bring a better selection of phones later... and i would like to get my hands on this optimus just to poke around with the hardware and software to see what modifications they have done to make this work!

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2 pricy!!! for not as much speed as my internet at home, i know its mobile and fast but not going to fork over that much for something i hardly ever use, i mean 3g and 4g tethering for free is cool. Just i don't use it often so paying 62 bucks a month whereas thats how much my cable fast internet at my house is.
i say na.......
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i use mine for home and on the go, so it is worth the $45/month for me... plus i live in the sticks and there is only dial up or satellite net here... but i got 4g coverage, go figure

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i use mine for home and on the go, so it is worth the $45/month for me... plus i live in the sticks and there is only dial up or satellite net here... but i got 4g coverage, go figure
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Ya well guess it depends on the area, in my house forget about good 3g or 4g or even barely any 4g here.
like there are a few places around town but not where i live or stop at, just drive by and im like cool i have 4g for 10 min while driving yay!!! (sarcasm) LOL
I love my cable internet tho its the second fastest we have here and i pay 64 bucks a month and get 27mb down and average 10mb up sometime more upload

UK Has BT Openzone, Not quite the same, but 2.8million hotspots around the country which are free to use if you're signed up

AT&T Throttling issues

I've searched the threads and goggled till i can't breath anymore, i am running the extreme dynamic Kat rom and i am being throttled by AT&T. I have the grandfathered unlimited plan. Anyone know how to bypass it?

Throttling is from their end...no way to bypass from your end.
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dirtydodge said:
I've searched the threads and goggled till i can't breath anymore, i am running the extreme dynamic Kat rom and i am being throttled by AT&T. I have the grandfathered unlimited plan. Anyone know how to bypass it?
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I'm at&t user and can you please explain what is advantage to have unlimited data plan if at&t throttle some around after 5gb, also I just trying to put all together price vise ? Can you please tell me how much are you paying total bill +/- monthly and what you got include in plan. I'm not salesmen just trying to find out why people stills holding to that plan..
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norbarb said:
I'm at&t user and can you please explain what is advantage to have unlimited data plan if at&t throttle some around after 5gb, also I just trying to put all together price vise ? Can you please tell me how much are you paying total bill +/- monthly and what you got include in plan. I'm not salesmen just trying to find out why people stills holding to that plan..
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dirtydodge said:
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Thank You... I have 4 smart phones on promotional share plan 15 GB witch give me 30GB for price of $130+(4x$15)= $190 , also i have rollover data. for last 6 months i we use an average 20-25 GB. I just post this for your information , so you can compare and decide what is wort what.. I'm not telling to to drop plan but if you find out that you are using around 6 GB per month ( witch is more then average user 2GB ) and you have no limitation to speed , maybe is worth to switch.. Like i said i'm NOT salesman just trying to help people.

well I've still been tinckering with it. I downloaded the phone info app from the play store and used it to open the service menu, i then went to device info and set my connection to GSM only. I then hit the menu button and enable data, i then switched back to LTE/GSM auto and then backed out of the program. I ran my speed test and now am back to regular download speed. Before i done all that my download speed was .33mbps.

norbarb said:
I'm at&t user and can you please explain what is advantage to have unlimited data plan if at&t throttle some around after 5gb, also I just trying to put all together price vise ? Can you please tell me how much are you paying total bill +/- monthly and what you got include in plan. I'm not salesmen just trying to find out why people stills holding to that plan..
Thank you...
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I certainly can explain why unlimited is better... at least for me... I don't have Internet at my house or work... my neighbors have encrypted wifi... I use an average of 15-20 gigs of data a month by myself while being throttled down to .2mbps and I only pay 90 bucks a month for my phone... now if my phone wouldn't get throttled I would easily double that as I use my phone for everything.... if I need to download something for my computer I download it to my phone and transfer it to my computer if I want to do research I use my phone.... if I'm on standby at work witch happens a lot I'm streaming movies for hours at a time.... literally everything that I do that's on the Internet is done on my phone.... I can't afford to not have unlimited.... normally within a few hours of my phone plan renewing for the month I'm already over my 5 gigs...
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REAPER_1986 said:
I certainly can explain why unlimited is better... at least for me... I don't have Internet at my house or work... my neighbors have encrypted wifi... I use an average of 15-20 gigs of data a month by myself while being throttled down to .2mbps and I only pay 90 bucks a month for my phone... now if my phone wouldn't get throttled I would easily double that as I use my phone for everything.... if I need to download something for my computer I download it to my phone and transfer it to my computer if I want to do research I use my phone.... if I'm on standby at work witch happens a lot I'm streaming movies for hours at a time.... literally everything that I do that's on the Internet is done on my phone.... I can't afford to not have unlimited.... normally within a few hours of my phone plan renewing for the month I'm already over my 5 gigs...
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I hear what are you saying, but personally still think this is make no sense. If i had to spend over 80 hours (1GB/0.2MB =5000 min) to download just 1GB of data i will switch and pay little more and got my 1GB with in couple min. You are loosing your time ... Average pix on my phone is 2-3 MB , sending pix of this size via MMS will take you what? 15-20 min... Just me .... . Also i think they (at&) should give unlimited as unlimited, but this not gonna happen because all who had unlimited data will sue them for forcing them to drop they plan. They in bad situation anyway...

I just noticed a big impact on my data speeds after switching to dynamic kat xtreme rom a few days ago also..