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I just got the AT&T Tilt last Friday and have found myself pondering if it was worth the $300.00? I am thinking about taking it back because it seems to buggy. The phone its self is good looking but WM6 is just ugly compared to the iPhone interface. Anyways what do you think?
If aesthetics are you main concern, sure go with an iPhone. I like functionality over appearance, so I love my tilt!
yes it worth it, there is soooooo many apps that u can add, you can even upgrade from that cingular rom, i havent seen anyone with my tilt yet
Now come on... this is getting beyond a joke....You have an At&T Tilt, not a 'HTC TyTnII'
Please disclose your business affiliations as I am POSITIVE you are associated with apple as this is getting really stupid!
Who buys a very expensive phone without research then suddenly comes on this forum and denouces it within a few weeks without really trying it??
I am amazed!!!
OH, BTW I am not associated with HTC in any way and I find it a 100% piece of kit for what I wanted.
Amazing how many times you see "is it worth it to me" on forums. Who else but you could possibly answer if it's worth it to you???
hahahaha good point, Farsquidge......iphone=downgrade
First off I do not work for AT&T!!! I am a high school student that spent alot of time doing research on this phone! I love my "'HTC TyTnII" or whatever you want to call it! I only called it the Tilt for the simple fact that its branded name is the AT&T Tilt. This has to be the most unfriendly forum I have ever been on!
Dude you need to chill out. Swearing will get you banned. Everyone has their opinions about the iPhone and the Tilt. If you don't like someone else's opinions, just ignore them.
Personally I love the Tilt. The iPhone just doesn't do enough for me. Yes, it has a very nice interface but in the end, function wins over form.
If you want a pretty phone, go with the iPhone. If you want one that you can easily hack and tweak and load tons of 3rd party apps on, get the Tilt, but it is your choice to make, not ours to make for you.
In the end, you have to live with your choice.
P.S. I absolutely love my Tilt. It runs rings around the iPhone and I don't have to worry about Steve Jobs making my life difficult by not letting me do what I want with it.
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
dawa259 said:
Thank you. I think I will stay with my Tilt.
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Please don't give up.. I know some of us (me for one!) can be a little short tempered with what is around on this forum at the moment (flaming the device!) but all of us on here would like to try to help you futher your unit!
I am sorry if I seemed to shoot you down at the start...
Let's move on from that...
You say you have a 'Tilt', first thing we can recommend is re-flashing your ROM to a HTC TyTnII as the AT&T is a very basic firmware but when you do this you will lose your AT&T settings ( that is your 3G HSDPA connection). Then you will need the latest Network settings cab.. Then lets move on from that!!! OK?
There are so many different roms witch is the one I need to use?
True, there are many. I like the att rom. it's not that bad. i just removed all of the bloatware on it by doing a soft reset after the hard reset and that freeed like 20 mb or so. btw, if you want to run different roms on the tilt, you must cid unlcok your tilt.
We need a few bits of info to start you off.
First, tell us the device (I know it may seem strange but we need to know who you bought it from ie At&T or whatever as this forum is worldwide!!)
Then when you first turn on the phone (turn it off by holding the power button!) try to get the OS and Radio versions it has. You may need to do this a couple of times as it disappears quickly.
If I am not online you will find loads of guys willing to help....
You have come into a great community that will work with you so long as we get the correct info...
I bought it from an AT&T store. The numbers are R1.27.12.11 G22.445.88.07h D1.57.00.00.
I need the same help here, thanks in advance
I will follow this thread since I have the same phone, same radio and OS, I'm very interested in getting a better ROM to see what are the PROS.
OK guys, have a good read at the WiKi...
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
Especially at the 'How to flash a new ROM' section. It will give you a good aspect of what you will be doing..
I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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I should have my tilt in a few days ( Amazon is the worst!). So I have been going around trying to gather as much information as possible on how customize my phone....Farsquidge, if I change my tilt interface to the TyTn11 interface I will lose my 3g? Also what is the benefit of changing? Also, I met alot of people who told me of good apps for my phone but is there a site where I can go where there is alot of apps with discriptions of what they do?
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If you re-flash your 'Tilt' (as it is an AT&T carrier device) you will lose your AT&T connection settings.
You will end up with a 'Carrier free' device with (or) without sim unlock depending on the way you do it. You will then have to re-install these with a 'Network profile app' from this forum. You will find plenty of apps (in the form of .cab files) on here to keep you happy for ages!
Be patient because there are tons of guys on this forum who have reflashed their devices that will add their input to help you. No one is online all the time but will get to you when they can.
Thanks. The more I look on different forums, the more confused I get. I'm not to phone/computer savy so I have to do some research on the simple words and terms used up here. Thanks alot.
It takes a long time to get up to speed, I'm not close yet. Personally, I don't have a problem with the ATT rom, I guess b/c I haven't seen a flashed one to compare it to. I've added a bunch of fun/useful programs from this site, FFF and IMSMS are great ones and all the home customizations are very cool. The other day, I was beaming IMSMS to a friend. A stranger passing says "oh are we showing off our phones?" and yanks out his iphone hoping we'd be impressed. I said, "nope just beaming a file, do you want it too? Oops, guess you can't do that" You could see him deflate immediately. The iphone is neat to look at, but is so lacking in features and customization it's sad.
i live in usa and will be looking at getting a tilt. at the moment i have a 8525(hermes) i like this phone but its not quite enough for me. i seek a better camera more memory and gps functionality. i really wanted the imate 9502 but with consistant delays and no esimated release date i am having trouble waiting.
so i look to the kaiser. would this be a good phone for me or will i be dissapointed?
normally I help with these kinds of questions but damn, this info is all over the place. please search
Eric's right. Do your research, and remember AT&T has a 30 day return period. If you buy the Tilt and decide you don't like it make sure you take it back to the store and exchange it before your 30 days are up.
-Jay
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=221545
Must make sticky of this (RULES) on the Kaiser forum TOO.. because many people (including me) has broken some of them in any moment,
thanx Mods =)
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OK, you can post that message now. If you see posts from others where you can help out, please do. This place exists because people are helping eachother, and even if you are relatively new to the matter, there's probably already quite a few people newer than you that would benefit from what you've learned. Don't be shy.
it would have been nice to just hear a quick summary of your thoughts comparing the 8525 to the 8925. after reading i have received mixed messages about the kaiser.
my opinion so far is that it has too many problems with it to be worthwhile and i should wait for something better.
rljetsetradio;1908420it would have been nice to just hear a quick summary of your thoughts comparing the 8525 to the 8925. after reading i have received mixed messages about the kaiser.
my opinion so far is that it has too many problems with it to be worthwhile and i should wait for something better.[/QUOTE said:
8925 tilts, 8525 doesn't.
8925 camera and default video player are not as good as 8525.
8925 has GPS, 8525 doesn't.
8925 is faster for basic business productivity apps.
Let me know if I left anything out.
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I am really struggling with this phone!
Yes it looks great.. and the 3d touch flo looks great.
But the blo*dy thing is crap at doing what it is designed for... being a phone.
When trying to get it going after it has been sleeping it can take an age... totally unresponsive...
I need a phone to work properly and not just sit there and look shiny!
I have added the enhancements and am using the Elite 2.0 rom..
Cheers
the problem with TF3D disable it
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upgrade to latest rom
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
At original poster, if what I think you mean is you want to use it to call straight away after waking it up - I share your frustration. It does seem to take a while before I can get it to call out after sleeping and I've used HTC, Elite and TLR roms and it's all the same for me.
What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob.
another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
Blimey last poster you really don't read things before you post your sharp responses do you?! That's at least two from you today. Seems to be quite the habit on this forum which is depressing for a new person on the block (like me).
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the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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another useless, whiner thread...
what's the question? now we know that u r not satisfied with the diamond. now what? what's the drama? send it back for a refund.
this is not a wall to graffiti slogans and complains.
the answer fits the post like a glove....post something like the above and you'll get an answer like the above. i wonder why bother to answer? to what?
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Dude listen the way i see it is that if you havent got anything useful to say or post then refrain from doing so. People are going to complain no matter what you or anyone else says. Like Monty says people have different ideas as to what is good for them and what isnt...fact of the matter is everytime i see you post...your always having a pop at someone who asks a question or slates the phone. Do you actually own HTC??...because sometimes your posts come across as a HTC fanboy...so what if people are saying the phone is useless/rubbish.
I'll say this about the Diamond, i love it but its hard work getting everything to run as you want it to. Personally HTC have alot to answer for, their QC testing is quite frankly crap and rubbish. They were in such a hurry to get this phone out...it seems like their engineers/designers fell asleep for a few months. The stock rom has too many niggles and problems with it, thankfully we have a place like this where we have some excellent guys who are making the Diamond a more enjoyable product due to their new roms. I swear if places like this didnt exist...HTC wouldnt be in business for much longer.
With regards to the OP, as i said before the phone is hard work...sometimes i struggle to do anything with it but i still love it. Perhaps try the TLR rom...its much faster and seems more smoother. AS for the sleeping issue??...it does take a few secs to get it back up and running but i can live with that...its not like it takes forever...well mine doesnt feel like that.
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What you see as useless other see as interesting and usefull.
I am thinking of buying this phone as i'm fed up with waiting for the i900 Omnia and this thread has been usefull. Now, thanks to reading this thread I am warned about slow "wake-up" of the Diamond and now more hesitant, almost to the point of not buying it.
Sadly though, you seem to judge everyone else by your own standards.
Ericsson68 was indeed trying to be helpfull by two things:
1; confirming that he too has a slow "wake-up" e.g its not he op's phone itself
2; Offering a possible explanation "What network are you on maybe that has something to do with it - I'm T-Mob. "
No one is forcing you to read these posts and no one is forcing you to write a pointless reply. It is often said by wise people (and those with friends!), if you have nothing constructive so say, don't say it.
So Erricsson and TrevorM, thanks guys! You've highlighted to me that this phone may have an issue, even with the latest roms applied, in that its slow to wake up. This is EXACTLY the reason i'm here along with many others!
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i gave you a hint. you didn't get it. keep on spamming.
Since when is the forum becoming a customer review of phones ?
I see already a thousand threads about the things that the Diamond does not fulfill. If you start reading them it is amazing what people whine about! "My phone does not react instantly after waking up", "My phone does not go to vibrate when I flip ip when it rings", "my phone is not the chickmagnet HTC promised it to be, I stil do not have a girlfriend" ...
So you use the title "poor performance" and then that is your strongest statement to back this up ??? nice one mate!
@Monty
Buy the phone, play with it, use it and then decide! What other people think might not always apply to you. I do not even have much issues with the battery.
If your want your phone to fly you to the bahamas then I suggest you buy yourself a plane.
This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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This is at this moment the best phone you can buy! no doubt about it, I had the iphone for a week and then got this one. Now I only use the iphone for cutting bread on!
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OMFG iphone can cut bread!!111
Kukuirukuwuay: 1 post is hardly spamming and tbh, if thats the best most informed response you can come up ... you should maybe try the American "whatever", at least that has comedy value.
MisterSosa, it does have reviews of it and so what? Peoples(Owners reviews) and more importantly, there day-to-day comments and experiences are vital. Its these bug reports/issues/compliments/"wow look at this feature" posts that help some people decide and whats wrong with that? Like it or not HTC does not make perfect gear, if it did, there would be no need for this site. The bugs people discuss on here are read by the people who create ROM's and sometimes fixed by them. TBH, I wouldn't be suprised if there are HTC developers on this site everyday. I certainly know that Toshiba devs monitor myg900.com
I do agree with you 100% that people see phones diferently and whilst it works for one, it won't work for another. That said, to be "the best phone you can buy!" would take some doo'ing! My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements). Also, "best" depends entirley on your needs. I'm still tempted to wait for the Omni as it will have a 5mp camera built in to it, something that doesn't seem to of sunk into HTC yet! Not to say I won't buy this, I like the form factor and the screen res (im used to 800x480 so this would only be a small downgrade).
However, I now consign myself to the fact that HTC phones only last at most a year and IF I buy this, it will be with that in mind.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone - assuming they are informed enough to look for sites like this and even the OP's post is usefull. Read into it his frustration: Can you not see that his post is actually a complement? It says to me that the OP thinks its an awesome phone .... except this one really minor but pain in the arse thing, the wake-up delay.
Yes your right, i could buy it and then send it back if I don't like it (assuming the shop are going to allow me, they don't have to) but how many times am I going to do that before I get told to get stuffed by the shop(s)? Also, I may also not discover everything I need to about the phone in the two weeks, usualy accepted by shops here in the uk, that I need to and then i maybe stuffed with a phone I don't want.
This site in particular and similar sites do indeed help people choose there next phone
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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wrong! this is a developer site like in:http://forum.xda-developers.com
maybe at "similar" sites you''lfind the help u need
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Completely and utterly wrong...this is a forum, it may very well be a developer forum but as of yet i havent heard any of the moderators in here say that we cannot give any opinions/views on what we think of the phone.
Crikey!!!
Didn't expect this kind of response.
Maybe it is useful for the DEVELOPERS to know how things are working (good or not)??
I have had any number of phones over the years - WinMo HTC, non HTC, Symbian etc. and this is the first one that I am really struggling with.
It is correct to say that it is hard work to get the equipment operating smoothly. The problem I have with that is, even after applying improved ROMS, performance enhancements, registry tweeks etc. the basic function is simply not working correctly. Why does it take so long for the phone to become ready for use?
Maybe a vanilla ROM will improve things, but then again I am left with a shiny shell which is a good phone (I may as well buy a cheap nokia!!).
I would be interested to know if other Diamond users are experiencing terrible lag, long delays and unresponsiveness..
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
Where is the lag/delay in this story ?
ever try to close the running applications since the first time you turned it on ?
Thanks ... what ROM are you using - which enhancements have you applied?
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@MisterSosa and KukurikU
You might not be experiencing it... some are.
If you haven't got any constructive help to add why not go and join another thread? You're not being forced to read our comments but we are unfairly being forced to read yours in a thread that we want to add our experiences to in a calm and collected way.
Now kindly leave the thread so that we can DEVELOP a solution to what some of us see as a problem.
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mobile not used for 3 hours, was lying on my desk.
press power button slide from all programs to home tab, press the phone button ... pops up immediately, dial colleague number and its dialing.
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Same here
Monty Burns said:
My experience with HTC hardware (not software) is that this is unlikely to be the case purely on reliability, 10 months down the road it will probably develope hardware failures just like my previous 3 HTC phones (and that doesn't include the factory replacements).
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Sorry to hear that Monty, as you can see by my signature I have owned all manor of HTC phones and i havent had to send most of them back (admittidley the C500 had to have the rocker stick repaired on mine and my girlfriends phone but I dealt with HTC direct as orange didnt want to know and HTC were very helpful and within 5 days I had the phone back)
I don't suffer from the lag that a few people in this thread are mentioning.
Ive got a WWE Touch Diamond with Rom Version 1.37.405.1 WWE, ROM Date: 06/10/08 Radio Version 1.00.25.03 and im on tmobile UK. My TouchFLO 3D version is 1.0.1630.23.
Ive NOT applied ANY tweaks to my phone at all, no registry edits, hacks or Rom updates and my phone works without lag when trying to make a phone call.
How long does your take, in secs, from when you have pressed the power button at the top to wake the phone up to when you press the Phone button (the left phone softkey?)
Where do you experience the problem? Do you find its when you use TouchFLO 3D? Or can you goto ALL PEOPLE from the PEOPLE TAB on TouchFLO 3D and its still laggy?
Sorry to hear your having problems guys but this forum is here to help you.
Thanks .. I see you are using an uncooked rom. Have you applied any of the registry tweeks etc.?
Cheers
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Same here
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Same here.
Only time I've see a delay in opening the phone app so far (3 weeks) was when I received a phone call AND a txt msg almost simultaneously...just as I was trying to copy/paste some info from Opera into a reply to a previous txt msg.
DT
...or is it just me? Some are really, really nice, but all seem to have one fundamental flaw for me. They suck at dialing. I could see if it happened once in a while, but about 1/2 the wrong digit, despite using just the tip of my finger. God forbid I actually use the pad of my finger.
For instance... I'll go for the 2, but get an 8 or 0 or something equally ridiculous. Of course, if I use the stylus, I don't have any issues.
I'm past the point of thinking it's a dialer software problem. I was thinking it might be a sensitivity issue, but it has been this way with every ROM I've tried, and regardless of where I put the sensitivity setting.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I don't have the same issue with my girlfriend's Treo 750. The touch screen on that dials just fine, both with the stock ROM and the 6.1 WWE version we're running now.
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...or is it just me? Some are really, really nice, but all seem to have one fundamental flaw for me. They suck at dialing. I could see if it happened once in a while, but about 1/2 the wrong digit, despite using just the tip of my finger. God forbid I actually use the pad of my finger.
For instance... I'll go for the 2, but get an 8 or 0 or something equally ridiculous. Of course, if I use the stylus, I don't have any issues.
I'm past the point of thinking it's a dialer software problem. I was thinking it might be a sensitivity issue, but it has been this way with every ROM I've tried, and regardless of where I put the sensitivity setting.
Is anyone else experiencing this? I don't have the same issue with my girlfriend's Treo 750. The touch screen on that dials just fine, both with the stock ROM and the 6.1 WWE version we're running now.
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You know it is disappointing that a member with 269 posts still doesn't know where to post this kind of information. Wrong forum, and i am willing to be there are other threads to complain about sucky dialers.
MODE EDIT: Do that by contributing!
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You know it is disappointing that a member with 269 posts still doesn't know where to post this kind of information. Wrong forum, and i am willing to be there are other threads to complain about sucky dialers.
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I've posted, and see posted, stuff like this before in the Kaiser main forum, and have seen people complain that it's in the "wrong forum". Where do you propose I put this? One though is that it's a ROM issue, because other programs touch features work just fine.
...and I did search. I did a search for "dialer wrong number" and "inaccurate dialer". The only thread I found that was relevant was this one, which turned out to be a ***** fest.
This is a grey area, so for you to just call this thread out "is disappointing".
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Word!
*Gots to get my post count up!*
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Wow, what do you call this? It's not even relevant to the thread. I could honestly give two hoots about my post count. I don't come here to win competitions on who can post the most. I am a member of many forums where my post count is higher than this, but I barely notice.
Word. What a tard.
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I've posted, and see posted, stuff like this before in the Kaiser main forum, and have seen people complain that it's in the "wrong forum". Where do you propose I put this? One though is that it's a ROM issue, because other programs touch features work just fine.
This is a grey area, so for you to just call this thread out "is disappointing".
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Dialers would be a software issue, and i'm confident this thread will eventually be moved either to Kaiser Software or Kaiser general. Honestly i believe the issue is that a lot of the dialers are actually ported from other devices. Most of them were not designed for the Kaiser originally. The stock dialer that comes with the AT&T rom actually performs much better in my option than any of the dual touch dialer, which is the most common dialer to find in cooked roms. Just my opinion, I should have posted this in my post. My apologies.
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Word!
*Gots to get my post count up!*
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Absolutely nothing of value to add??? Maybe you shouldn't post. If you want to get your post count up, i recommend that you spend time learning, and then post helpful suggestions to other users who have questions.
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Word. What a tard.
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Two wrongs don't make a right. We should all be respectful, even when people don't deserve it. Just report offensive posts.
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Dialers would be a software issue, and i'm confident this thread will eventually be moved either to Kaiser Software or Kaiser general. Honestly i believe the issue is that a lot of the dialers are actually ported from other devices. Most of them were not designed for the Kaiser originally. The stock dialer that comes with the AT&T rom actually performs much better in my option than any of the dual touch dialer, which is the most common dialer to find in cooked roms. Just my opinion, I should have posted this in my post. My apologies.
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No, if you feel this should honestly be in another thread, then you should say so. If, like you say, it is an issue with ported dialers, then it belongs here, as the cooks using these dialers should fix the issue.
Absolutely nothing of value to add??? Maybe you shouldn't post. If you want to get your post count up, i recommend that you spend time learning, and then post helpful suggestions to other users who have questions.
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No, if you feel this should honestly be in another thread, then you should say so. If, like you say, it is an issue with ported dialers, then it belongs here, as the cooks using these dialers should fix the issue.
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Guess we'll see Dialer actually have nothing to do with rom development. They are just an add-on software that people change as they see fit.
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*laughing to no one, drooling on his shirt and wipes a booger on his screen*
Tard?
Go to Guitar Center and pick yerself up a Jim Dunlop Metal Finger Pick. ...problem solved.
*Adds yet another 'notch' toward his posting milestone of 4.37 billion posts*
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Please stop. Your post has been reported, and as such i will not reply to any more of your posts. You should treat the other members with respect.
Enough....back to top of the thread.
I have GIANT fingers. MOD EDIT: Congratulations! ... and I have no problems dialing. Also, I have issues trying to see the screen while I am driving MOD EDIT: Glad you have a license! ...so I use voice dialing more often while driving.
MOD EDIT: Watch what you're posting! First and last warning!
try this dialer skin
Your aren't alone with this.....but i found a great dialer skin below that works even with pad touch! Hope this helps.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=408005&page=1
all touch screen dialers for any phone can't be perfect. It takes a lot of practice aiming your fingers to find the sweet spot on these dialers.
It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
Exitao said:
It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
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Totally agree.
When i call in a hurry i almost always get at least one digit wrong.
It is really frustrating.
Exitao said:
It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
Crap, I just about called 911 by accident when I tried to call 611 yesterday.
I don't care who people want to say is responsible, cooks or people who port; I'm near ready to go back to an OEM ROM.
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maybe you ought to worry more about the practicality of the phone you're using given your circumstances.
Exitao said:
It shouldn't take any practice. I'm a first aid attendant and if I have to toss my phone at someone so they can call 911 while I have to perform an intervention, they shouldn't have to practice.
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Sorry, but I have to ask....
Should we be "Tossing" our Kaisers?????
Just seems to me if you have to "Toss" this wonderful phone, that I hope you have the insurance plan on it in case the person your tossing it to doesn't catch it.
The Diamond dialer linked above, combined with editing the registry to increase the TouchPanel sensitivity to 5000, makes it very easy to dial with huge thumbs like mine.
I raised a similar thread a while back based on trying to make the Kaiser more finger friendly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376271
My top suggestion for you is to install Finger-Friendly Friends http://www.jotto.no/fff/ which is so quick to find contacts with fat/clumsy finger usage. It obviously doesn't remove the issue of when you want to dial a new number, but I highly recommend you try it out.
Rob
StevesDesigns said:
Sorry, but I have to ask....
Should we be "Tossing" our Kaisers?????
Just seems to me if you have to "Toss" this wonderful phone, that I hope you have the insurance plan on it in case the person your tossing it to doesn't catch it.
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Sometimes literal can be a simile for anal. Let's not become too much of either and use a bit of common sense instead.
For the other fellow above:
As for my choice in phones, it may be a toy for you, but it's my PIM and life organiser (I have adhd, so a good PIM is like a second Rx) and it's also a phone. If it can't function properly as a phone, then I should just buy an iPhone, or a Nokia. Or stick to OEM softs.
XDA seems to be filled with people who think they can cook a ROM better than HTC or AT&T, and yet there's this dialer issue.
Not trying to insult anyone in particular, just asking, what gives?
If anyone has a useful link to a dialer that works well, with nice big buttons AND smart dial, please speak up.
If we were in a ROM/app release thread, there would be an effort to keep the thread on topic and keep posts useful. I don't feel you two gentlepersons have been terrible useful.
rfarnell said:
I raised a similar thread a while back based on trying to make the Kaiser more finger friendly: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376271
My top suggestion for you is to install Finger-Friendly Friends http://www.jotto.no/fff/ which is so quick to find contacts with fat/clumsy finger usage. It obviously doesn't remove the issue of when you want to dial a new number, but I highly recommend you try it out.
Rob
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Yes, I've tried it. Very nice app. Unfortunately I can't foresee all the numbers I need to all for the next day/week/month... so a functional dialer would still be useful.
I also wonder if the increasing sensitivity of the touch screen for touchflo/iclone apps contributes to dialer suckiness... Anyone confirm this?
What is your favorite ROM for the T-Mobile Wing. I am looking for a ROM that is fast, and the MMS will still work.
Let me know what you think.
Thanks!
Radio Version
Also, the new Radio version would be nice
the best rom for any device is the one that you like the best.
In the herald forum, the main contenders are OpenTouch by ttran, Touch-it by itje, itspapablack by papamopps, Asergs roms by aserg, and just2clean/justme by ivan. There are other roms made by other people, but these are the main ones (kidnamedalbert and ginolin come to mind)
usually, the radio rom doesn't that make that big a difference, but the best one for me is something along the lines of 3.21.90 or something like that
People always ask "whats the best rom?"
Try a couple of them, and see what YOU like.
sounds like they just want to take the easy way out and not read all the post on each one. read and dive in if you dont like it you can always flash aging and become addicted like the rest of us
I can understand people not using the results from a search. All of the ROM forums are huge...look at TTran's newest thread OTP 6.5 167 pages or so...thats a lot of information to cipher even as an advance user!
I think there should be the release thread and a second thread with all fixes. would make questions from noobs a lot easier to answer. Hopefully some wouldn't have to ask questions!
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I can understand people not using the results from a search. All of the ROM forums are huge...look at TTran's newest thread OTP 6.5 167 pages or so...thats a lot of information to cipher even as an advance user!
I think there should be the release thread and a second thread with all fixes. would make questions from noobs a lot easier to answer. Hopefully some wouldn't have to ask questions!
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I agree with you there man. The forum is so huge and sometime the search function does not help much. You know what, I think the moderators should "sticky" all the newest ROMs so people don't have to hunt around for it.
live4nothing said:
I agree with you there man. The forum is so huge and sometime the search function does not help much. You know what, I think the moderators should "sticky" all the newest ROMs so people don't have to hunt around for it.
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I actually think that the chefs should change the subject lines on their older roms to "OUTDATED" .. and that will be alot less trouble on THE moderator.
duprade said:
I actually think that the chefs should change the subject lines on their older roms to "OUTDATED" .. and that will be alot less trouble on THE moderator.
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Of course that works too, but that doesn't help when the chefs became inactive, like Aserg or ITJE. Unless people monitor the forum frequently for awhile, it is quite difficult for the to find the most updated roms from those chefs. Maybe this is why sometime we still see people asking how to flash TouchIT 3 or something (REALLY) outdated like this on the forum.
as a newbe that took 6 weeks to figure out how to flash my frist rom and "still" not sure I got a current realease, I think you guys are on the right track. IMHO of course.
live4nothing said:
Of course that works too, but that doesn't help when the chefs became inactive, like Aserg or ITJE. Unless people monitor the forum frequently for awhile, it is quite difficult for the to find the most updated roms from those chefs. Maybe this is why sometime we still see people asking how to flash TouchIT 3 or something (REALLY) outdated like this on the forum.
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I just look at the posted date.
It would be nice if there were a reliable list of ROMs rather than just forum posts. I hate digging through hundreds of "me too", "that's great" posts to get to REAL information.
It's especially tough because I'm not the one using the ROM--I flash it for my wife and she has no clue what's out there or what she wants--she just tells me what she has problems with and what she doesn't like about what's on her phone now.
That being said, What is a suggested ROM for my wife? She uses EpocratesRX, text messaging, contacts management, and Google Maps.
She's using OpenTouch 5 or 6 right now and she has problems with the scroll bar disappearing in the text messaging app, whenever she reboots, she has to change the display orientation to landscape and back to get the start bar to appear, etc. She can't stand all those little quirks. She also wants to scroll through her contacts and be able to call one easily with few clicks--right now if she gets to a number she wants to be able to hit the green call button and dial, but it just brings up the dialer with her last called number, not the number of the contact she was looking at.
if remember correctly, OT 5 had some problems with messaging. I don't recall what exactly those problems were, but that might be one of them.
Try using icontact or pocketcm for her contacts. They're simple, intuitive, and nice looking.
As for a rom for your wife? Try them all. It sounds like she has some applications that not alot of other people use, so try a "clean" or "lite" rom with lots of memory for extra application. i personally suggest Open Touch 6 lite.
spleck said:
It would be nice if there were a reliable list of ROMs rather than just forum posts. I hate digging through hundreds of "me too", "that's great" posts to get to REAL information.
It's especially tough because I'm not the one using the ROM--I flash it for my wife and she has no clue what's out there or what she wants--she just tells me what she has problems with and what she doesn't like about what's on her phone now.
That being said, What is a suggested ROM for my wife? She uses EpocratesRX, text messaging, contacts management, and Google Maps.
She's using OpenTouch 5 or 6 right now and she has problems with the scroll bar disappearing in the text messaging app, whenever she reboots, she has to change the display orientation to landscape and back to get the start bar to appear, etc. She can't stand all those little quirks. She also wants to scroll through her contacts and be able to call one easily with few clicks--right now if she gets to a number she wants to be able to hit the green call button and dial, but it just brings up the dialer with her last called number, not the number of the contact she was looking at.
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There's a whole review thread right under the Herald Development forum.