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What phone would you get or have gotten????
ATT 8525, but they ran out of stock right when i purchased my phone, i begged and haggled with my dad, so i ended up getting the 8925/Tilt
Nokia N95 - 3
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
NuShrike said:
HP iPAQ 6xx, ETEN M800 (if it wasn't so ugly and had lacking 64MB ram), Nokia N95 8GB.
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ipaq if they ever release it, M800 just kinda meh 64mb ram???, N95 8gb if there was an expansion slot somewhere... I mean, its pretty expensive for something that will ALWAYS be limited to 8gb.
I'm trying to find a quad-band equivalent to the w960i, as the premium we're paying for a QWERTY keyboard is still in the "ridiculous" stage.
And I'd rather keep Exchange Activesync functionality so don't bother mentioning the jesus phone again.
I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well.
After my experience with the tytnii, my next cell phone will be a regular cell
phone such as the razor and i am just going to keep using my ipaq.
In reality, if hp would just make an ipaq with the 3.5 inch touch screen to work as cell like the htc touch, i would buy as hp makes good products (i always like there ipaq products and always wished they had a phone option available for any model). Was looking at the newer hp cell phones coming out; but they either seem rather bulky due to the full blown keyboard or seem to have a small screen - i like the 3.5" screen models.
I know htc has some models that have a 3.5" screen; but i dont think htc has there act together and i no longer trust buying any smart phone from them; particularly, an expensive one.
i would have kept my sony ericsson p1i
N95 8GB or the N82, but they lack the moddabilt of WM phones which I love
Iphone 3G or one of the new I-Mate series.
I would still have my iPhone.
Is still have my T680.
And ill be $750 richer .
I would still have my hermes and be waiting for the imate 9502 (if it ever comes) or the next gen iphone.
Having gone symbian and palm before I'm not going there again!!
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...I thought id be able to eliminate my ipaq after i bought the tytnii; however, i still have my ipaq as my tytnii just does not work to replace my ipaq because it such a poor device; in reality, it makes a poor cell phone and a poor ipaq replacemet; it does niether well...
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Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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It's just too late...
iphone 3G + TomTom .... or i-mate 9052
Perhaps, we never satisfy with what we have on our hands until we've lost it. Some other devices seem to be better than ours at first, but they might not be what we expected them to be. We always greed for more, to satisfy our thirst. Indeed, our thirst is never satisfied enough.
It's another quiet morning in Washington, DC after the Shocking Tuesday =)
firstbuddha said:
Without getting my head bitten off, I can't understand why people come on XDA Devs and complain HEAVILY about their device... why didn't you send the TyTn II back if it is that bad for you?
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First, let me say i did not send my device back as i thought the software problems would be fixed; however, it is now looking like no software fix is coming given htc response.
I am complaining heavily because i thought the tytnii would replace my ipaq. I thought i would be able to take notes and do other things "while on a call" just like i do with my ipaq (with the use of seperate cell phone). I thought it would be great if this could be boiled down one device.
However, to use the tytnii as an ipaq "during a call" i need speaker phone to work so that i can see and use the screen so i can access and write data on the screen; however, the speaker phone is defective in most tytnii (if not all). i can hear the caller fine; but they cannot hear me or say i am garbled. Sending the phone in for warranty (which provides for repair or replacement of t does nothing the phone) does nothing to resolve the speaker problem as the replacement is also defective. I think this defect relates to sometype faulty softtware or registry setting; however, currently trying to fix this remains elusive.
The defective speaker is the reason i consider the tytnii a poor cell phone. The inability to use the screen during the call is why i consider it a poor ipaq as my ipaq recieves most of its use "during a call". I am not trying to nit pick; only saying that the tytnii cannot perform as an all in one device if you intend to use it "during a call" as the device is fundamentally flawed for this use.
I post this to help others not make the same mistake. If anyone has suggestions on all in one device that will actually also function as an ipaq "during a call" and that has a decent speaker phone i would like to hear. Ever since i have owned an ipaq, i always wished it had a built in cell phone. My "wish list" is that hp would make all of its ipaq models available with a cell phone option - i really like the 3.5" screen models (without the keyboard --- i find the ones with the full blown keybard are a little to bulky). But this is just a wish list.
my speaker phone works flawless.. i have a tilt
You are lucky with regard to having speaker phone that works. What radio rom you have; there is another person in the forum that is returning his tilt for the 5th time today in an attempt to resolve the speaker phone probelm; maybe if his works also; I might be able to exchange/get replacement phone to resolve speaker problem as so far it has been difficult for me to resolve.
N95 and my dusty StowAway keyboard while waiting for the SE P5. I couldn't go back to an 8525 as the Tilt has really spoiled me in terms of speed and, more importantly, stability.
Now, I've read that the compact IV has less RAM memory than the Touch diamond. Over at the following site they say that the Compact IV has 128MB, while the touch diamond has 192MB.
http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_mda_compact_iv_mda_vario_iv-review-252.php
Is this true? If so, how is the gap in performance between them?
Ermmm i dont think anyone can really answer that question to be honest...seeing as the Compact IV hasnt even been released...
True enough tbh, but you'll never know until you try. Especially when this makes the difference in chosing my phone.
Well then its better to wait till the Compact has been released onto the market until then no one will really know.
Hey, I happen to work for T, and so I will be first in line the day we start stocking them and will let you know, though I can't see any reason why it should be different lol
DTMC
My 'Geschäftskundenberater' guy told me his list said price would be out in week 26 and he would call me (as this is the earliest option for ordering). All this for Germany.
@damiantmc: please do let us know if you have news concerning release date, release price, release specs... thx (where are you located?)
Desperately waiting for this call....
Hi everyone
I have the above as a works phone and cannot really SPL the thing. I have read all new ones are pre-loaded with 6.1?
Does anyone know when Orange plan on releasing a 6.1 update, or if a copy has got out into the wild, or if the new phones have been copied and if there is a some way I could update?
Many thanks for any comments from you techno gods out there....
htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.
orange not released an updated yet but you could use the latest HTC rom and put that on your phone but you will need to hard spl it first, i recommend 3.28 as im using it and everythings fine.
The rom is ruu_Kaiser_htc_wwe_3.28.405.0_radio_sign_28.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_ship.exe you can download from this site
if new to changing roms then you need to do a bit of re search on this site and also you'll need to load SSPL-KAIS first on your phone before the Kaiser-HardSPL3.28 and then finally the rom above. all available on this site somewhere.
At first it seems complicated but after 20 or so flashes its a dodle....
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htc has some website that you can look on to see if your company has a rom update. I'm from the states and htc hates us so we don't have that option. (unless we actually bought a kaiser and not a tilt) So I am not versed in the HTC website format.
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intrested in finding this website.... t-mobile staff didn't seem to know anything about a 6.1 update when i recently e-mailed them.
T-mobile maybe releasing the update in July or August is the official response to be timed with the release of the Vario 4
Bump!
If the phones that currently ship are coming with 6.1 is it possible to lift the rom and put it on my phone?
Thanks for any info....
My Kaiser that arrived on Friday has 6.0 on it not 6.1
It's on the Three network
Don't know about 3, but orange are I believe. I heard they took the phone out of sale for two weeks to make the change?
Surely on this doyen of PDA knowledge, someone can give me an answer. Aren't there any orange staff reading this?
Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?
Im disappointed in Orange. They are supposed to be releasing 6.1, but it never seems to happen... They say keep an eye on the download site, but the rom never arrives!
I wish they would sort this out... I love the phone, but a bit fed up that the vibrator never stops sometimes when I get an email!
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actually if you compare orange to at&t orange is the better provider
for instance i broke my universal (spv m5000) and they deliver the next day. on 15 quid admin cost wereas at&t charge extortionat prices for this
they have a better 3g coverage great customer service
the only reason im dissappointed is because they **** about with there roms thats why its take a while to get them out i rang orange about a week ago and they said 5 months
but at least if it dies you can get a fast delivery of a new one
I wish they would hurry up!!
Do you know if they ship new ones with 6.1, or still 6.0??
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They are shipping new ones with 6.1. There are several people on differant forums reporting how much quicker their replacement phones are to their old 6.0.
Can the new rom be lifted and put on to a version 6.0 without spl. ANYBODY??
Orange might never release the damn thing. I ask you, if its OK for new phones why not release it?
had my tytn II now for a couple of weeks and can say its 6.1. afaik all tytns now shipped by orange should be flashed with 6.1 but be wary in dealerships as they may still be clearing old stock running on 6
Mine has a small fault... I was just going to ignore it, but if the Orange Care replacement will be 6.1, then I might report it after all...
Anyone had an Orange Care replacement of a 6.0 for a 6.1??
Thanks
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Orange are rubbish - why would they give a ****?
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Behave. You will get bad experiences with all networks, your infinitely superior network included.
As for 6.1, not in Orange stores yet. I work in Orange retail, theres certainly been no recall to update them. The website is listing them as out of stock when the retail allocation is still OK, so its possible the business website has pulled them to update them to 6.1 - even though on the spec sheet its still showing as ver 6.
hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back
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hhmmm sound promising. the only ****er with replacing is the fact i have to keep the back cover which has started to deteriorate. and some of the clips have snapped of the back
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Tell them the covers broken, you'll have to pay the admin fee regardless, a broken backdoor impedes normal function of the phone if say...the battery keeps falling out. Or something.
Generally though, handset replacements are refurbed kit which will obv be reflashed, so its feasible that it'll have 6.1 but I wouldnt hold out for it.
ill wait until the phone kicks it. at least the admins so low. atnt charge eq 200 quid for replacements and orange uk pay 15
lovin it
just had to have a replacement phone off orange care last week my replacement still as only got version 6 on it
gents i`ve got a problem,
luxury problem, until today i had the tytn II but my contract with my phone provider is comming to an end.
and i got a call from them with a proposal for a new contract.
so mow my problem,
they offert me a one year contract with the HTC diamond.
for the same amount i have to pay today but now also with unlimited internet access.
or do i take a sim only contract.
so what would you do.
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gents i`ve got a problem,
luxury problem, until today i had the tytn II but my contract with my phone provider is comming to an end.
and i got a call from them with a proposal for a new contract.
so mow my problem,
they offert me a one year contract with the HTC diamond.
for the same amount i have to pay today but now also with unlimited internet access.
or do i take a sim only contract.
so what would you do.
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how much are the charging for the phone?
nothing, i do not have to pay anything for the phone.
Do the maths....
if you feel the saving from going Sim free is worth it then take that option.
If you could want the diamond... or could make a profit selling the diamond take that one.
NO MicroSD slot on the diamond .... BIG minus
please read the review on the register
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2008/07/08/review_htc_touch_diamond/
wait for the touch pro to come out and then dump the sorry excuse for a pocket pc that is tilt (and that is only if the touch pro operates as well as it does on paper and doesnt have the same problems as the ghastly tilt)
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wait for the touch pro to come out and then dump the sorry excuse for a pocket pc that is tilt (and that is only if the touch pro operates as well as it does on paper and doesnt have the same problems as the ghastly tilt)
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wow...and what does the pro do that the tilt doesn't do?
it has the same options that the tynt II also has with a slide keyboard.
only this one has a better processor ect.
regarding the option, yes i could wait but my contract will be finished at the 28th of august.
and i do not know when the touch pro will come out here in the Netherlands.
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it has the same options that the tynt II also has with a slide keyboard.
only this one has a better processor ect.
regarding the option, yes i could wait but my contract will be finished at the 28th of august.
and i do not know when the touch pro will come out here in the Netherlands.
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I was more or less mocking the statement that a slightly better processor and .2 megapixels in the pro makes the tilt a "sorry excuse for a pocket pc". even if it has drivers, it still wouldn't makes it god in comparison...
but I derail....
Hi guys,
I'm looking for an new / almost new / as new Kaiser to substitute my 1 yr old Vodafone v1605 aka HTC TyTn. I was tempted from the Diamond too but I think I couldn't live withouth the qwerty right now!!
So I ask you all some help to take my decision...
My budget is limited and as you can see I live in Italy where those devices cost ""an entire eye of your head"", as we say here , I still see TyTn at 600 / 700€ and TyTn II at 849 / 899€ in some shops and the minimal for the Kaiser I've seen is 799€ I can't absolutely afford
Of course I'm looking for get help from our best friend ebay and I see many XDA Stellar or Mda Vario III 2nd hand in great condition (or so is stated) at around 300 to 350€ shipped from UK(what I paid for my uk refurb TyTn).
I've just noticed the same device is produced by AT&T as 8925 and its prices are sometimes 150€ less if bought from U.S.A., even if I don't know if I'll have to pay custom's taxes on arrive!
I see many sites say the only difference is the missing front camera but...but reading the wiki here, it seems that putting a Kaiser rom onto an 8925 is buggy/problematic/gets the device work worst than before!?
At the opposite, I've seen many users telling they did put an htc rom onto at&t pda with no prob of sort!
So I'm VERY confused
What's the truth?
Ok, it can be unfunny to unlock an at&t at first, no prob for this, but after that, will I be able to try any rom I see here in the forums, as I was doing and still am with my TyTn?
What do you think about the prices I mentioned? Have you paid your Kaiser OR 8925 less or more? Which one do you suggest? Considering I've no prerogatives, do you suggest me to wait some more time like Christmas or so on to find better deals?
Many thanks to all willing to give me some help to do the next step
I tried many different roms (official/cooked ATT/HTC) on my AT&T Tilt and no problem so far. Beside the front camera, the keyboard layout is different and U could found a cab to solve it. (U could look at my signature for that)
Thanks bro,
just a few other questions.
What's a fair price for a brand new and for a 2nd hand tilt?
I see many 2nd hand tilt on eb for around 300$...isn't it a bit too much?
Oh, what about the sim-lock instead?
I found many threads saying at&t really gives you the unlock code at the phone but...will I, from Italy, be able to have it ""so easily""(assuming I understand spoken English) by calling in u.s.a.?
What about unlocking it by myself, is it possible for free or not, I'm still not sure after reading some threads!?
I just replaced my European TyTNII with an unlocked US version of the TyTNII. I got the US version through Newegg.com, I'm not sure if they ship where you live.
The phone is the exact same as the Tilt it is missing the front camera and the keyboard is different.
I swear the US version is built better thatn the European one and it comes with 6.1 installed already.
$300 is a great price. The tilt is $450 NIB w/o contract.
550 euro....tenuto...maniacalmente?? con un anno abbondante di garanzia residua...
Thanks to all for the help!
Just to update my story ... I was very nearly going for a tilt when I noticed GREAT offers from my own mobile operator H3G!
Well, actually it's great for my who currently pay 9€/month for 50MB/day of internet (Naviga3).
Since I'm very happy with it, there's an offer of a new EU TyTn II at 399€ with a subscription for 2 years at the promotional cost of 14,16€/month forever (instead of 29) with 1Gb/month and a lot of free calls (I presumably will have to pay only SMS and the 0,15€ fee at call opening (don't know how you say it, sorry )).
Also, there is a Diamond for LESS : 299€, same plan...
Actually, I'm really confused and don't know which one to choose...I love my qwerty but, you know, diamonds shine...ok, now for long with 900mAh
I'm also considering the option to sell my TyTn and wait for the Raphael to see what's its price with my op...this offer ends within the end of September, don't know if they will add it in time!
Perhaps I should ask some diamond users coming from qwerty if it they can live without it!
@sharkonholiday
Assolutamente troppo! Grazie comunque.
Can't afford! Thanks anyway.
Where can I found The cab for USA-->ITALIAN keyboard??
I payed my tytn II on Ebay USA about 270 euros NEW!!
:°D ancora devo provarlo sto aspettando sto caspita di corriere *_*
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Wow, that's a great price! Let me know if it's all right!!
For the keyboard, if you own a Tilt (AT&T brand) I think you need this cab: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911 but keyboard will not become "italian", simply it'll work as it should
Oh, perhaps you need a cab to install the t9 Italian dictionary and so on, don't you? If you need, just ask, its on my microsd already
p.s. a parte che mi sento stupido a parlare inglese quando siamo entrambi italiani...ma queste sono le regole...sentiamoci via pm/email o anche msn ok? Fammi sapere se è andato tutto a buon fine...sarei curioso di vedere se il venditore ne ha altri ad un prezzo simile, se me lo indichi via pm o email mi fai un favore, grazie Per qualsiasi altra cosa chiedi pure!!
@all
any advice is the welcome
ErMeglio... you have an MP
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Well guys, I still have got to decide between Diamond and TyTn II
I'm confused and I'm proud I have been recently, since the price of both has gone to 199€ and 299€ respectively (100€ less for both)...
hey, i was in the same situation as you recently, i bought a sealed brand new v1616 (tytn II) off ebay for £200, just put my vodafone sim in and everything works great, would def recommend.
ErMeglio said:
Thanks to all for the help!
Just to update my story ... I was very nearly going for a tilt when I noticed GREAT offers from my own mobile operator H3G!
Well, actually it's great for my who currently pay 9€/month for 50MB/day of internet (Naviga3).
Since I'm very happy with it, there's an offer of a new EU TyTn II at 399€ with a subscription for 2 years at the promotional cost of 14,16€/month forever (instead of 29) with 1Gb/month and a lot of free calls (I presumably will have to pay only SMS and the 0,15€ fee at call opening (don't know how you say it, sorry )).
Also, there is a Diamond for LESS : 299€, same plan...
Actually, I'm really confused and don't know which one to choose...I love my qwerty but, you know, diamonds shine...ok, now for long with 900mAh
I'm also considering the option to sell my TyTn and wait for the Raphael to see what's its price with my op...this offer ends within the end of September, don't know if they will add it in time!
Perhaps I should ask some diamond users coming from qwerty if it they can live without it!
@sharkonholiday
Assolutamente troppo! Grazie comunque.
Can't afford! Thanks anyway.
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Scrap the Diamond idea and get a Diamond-based ROM for the TyTN (I'm currently using L26 8/27/08 Diamond-based ROM and I LOVE it.)
I personally love my TILT. I've cycled through several makes and models of phones (Motorola, Nokia -sadly-, Samsung, HTC) through the years and have to say I've been more than impressed by my TILT above all others. I bought mine off of Ebay myself when my Wizard (8125) got trashed (it was my 3rd Wizard too...lol) and got it for $380, s&h included so $300 is a sweet deal.
Only problem I run into w/ the TILT is simple expected issues that arise when you go from branded to cooked ROMs. Simple things like a TyTN-based keyboard input even though my physical keyboard is still "TILTed" but that gets fixed with a simple cab file.
The only other thing I could even say is that the Kaiser is left-handed (whyyy???! lol) and it's a pain in my butt since I'm right-handed BUT once you adapt (which takes all of 2 days) then you rarely ever notice it.
All in all, I love my phone and so will you =]
They made a real solid unit when they built this thing. Only thing my phone doesnt do that I could use is microwave food for me (and I'm sure with some tweaks it might actually pull THAT off too! haha!)
So try out your Kaiser before you scrap it back on Ebay. Once you play with it and flash yourself a new ROM then you'll be up and running. Just make sure to HardSPL your phone and invest in a free copy of Sprite Backup cab and make a full copy of your phone before flashing and you'll be good to go!
Good luck no matter which one you pick. HTC rarely goes wrong on any phone they make. Keep us updated on which one you pick in the end.
Best regards,
HTCOmega
Thanks for your comments, I appreciate every single line
I've taken a "so-called" decision about what I am going to do.
Well, Diamond is style only and I understand I would still LOVE my TyTn with Diamond-based ROMs I am already using (abusalza's rulez, it flies now) if only it stays switched on all the time.
I've opened it so many time and I got the situation much better but actually it often switches off while I drive, and rarely switches off while I walk
I'm just here after 2h of bikeing and it remained switched on in my pocket for example.
The fact is that it's very annoying as it is now.
Thanks to an user in another thread (sorry, don't remember your name mate) I've tried a good site which I hope will help me to get it repaired by soldering by myself the battery connectors.
Having done this, is it a bad end or a new birth, I will see how much I can take and what I can buy.
Of course I will decide within the end of September, due to the end of the offer mentioned. Well, they've already postponed its end for 2 months, but I need a new phone and I don't like to risk: if it ends the abbo goes from 15 to 29 €/month and I can't afford!
I hope they'll sell the Raphael within the end of the month too, so I can consider buying it.
But you all convinced me: I need a qwerty, so
st choice: Raphael (if it's affordable!)
nd choice: TyTn II
last choice: Diamond.
Thanks guys!!
P.S. Two days ago I went to a shop near here and I saw a TyTn II in "super offer occasion etc..." and I asked for its price...the boy at the shop put it in my hands and lol, I was trying to open it from the right-side, WTF have they done lol??? I was thinking..mmh...that's a bad product, it's so hard to open it has to be damaged lol, then he showed me how to do...I felt so stupid!! You're right mate, HTC is strange sometimes haha
Anyway, it was 450 2nd hand (ok mint condition but used!)...no way
Ooh guys, just to let you know, I'm gone...just bought with/for my dad a Nokia N95 8gb, and I'm using it for me right now.
He wanted it and I will give it to him +/- in December, when I should decide what to buy for myself!
I saw TOO many news out there, and I didn't feel a TyTn II, is it Tilt or not, was the right choice with all these great new devices ready for the market!
Also, just some days after my findings, suddenly my funny operator raised the price up again of 100€ (299 diamond and 399 tytnII), and they are totally too costly considering there's a 2 years plan to pay
This 95 is a really great product, you know, it only misses a touch screen
Thanks for all your efforts and guidelines, will surely ask again when I'll be unsure again, within December