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Installing TT3 problems!!!!

I am having major problems installing TT3 on my new XDA 2i, it keeps coming up with an issue about not displaying correctly as it was meant for an earlier version of ppc and then wont load, it also has t versions of the gps software on it that I cant get rid of the icons from the programmes menu.. Can anyone help or tell me how they got round the problem please.
Thanks.

Please can you explain your problem in more detail. Thanks

It sync's and transfers files but they do not extract when loaded onto the XDA, all I get a pop up box (twice) that says that there may be display problems as I am using a newer os then ttn3 etc.............., Then when you look in the windows folder and select ttn3 it says no application associated with the file. The GPS programme installs, but then if you uninstall you get left with the icon for the gps prog. left in the programmes folder (I now have 2 icons in that folder). Hope that makes it clearer.

try doing a hard reset ,,but backup first with sprite ,, and see if that helps ,dont worry about that message it will always come up about not being able to display

Ok, Will try that. Is it best to load TT3 on before restoring?

no backup first incase it doesn't work ,then you can always go back to your old setup and get back any lost info

Bad Network Coverage

I was just wondering wether everyone has a BAD NETWORK SIGNAL or rather Weak signal on their Alpine. cuz i hv that and i got mine yesterday and i'm fiddlin round w it. and wondering if this'll cause me problems w conversations:/
ps: if i turn phone to standby(via power button??) -> phone gos off right? so how do i save battery and have th ephone on???
PLEASE REPLY ASAP

Which radio version are you running? May help to upgrade that to 1.04.00 to get a better signal.
The phone will automatically switch on if you receive a call !
hth,
Max

Imate- PDA2
This is what i'm running:
I-mate PDA 2
ROM version: 1.11.00 WWE
ROM date: 01/27/05
Radio version: 1.03.00
Protocol version 1337.42
ExtROM version: 1.11.144 WWE
its the latest off the i-mate website. or do u suggest another rom update from smwhere else? cuz the thing is that i'm also running arabic, so i don't want 2 lose that no matter what u know. any suggestions?

hi demiseh,
please do backup using such as Sprite Backup before upgrade........
http://www.klstore.com/mael/Radio 1.04.rar
this file just included Radio 1.04 upgrade only for Alpine.
restore back the backup so that you dont lost anything.....
thanks

As clustered said you should do a full back with a software like "Sprite Backup" before you start applying the new Radio Version 1.04.00, as it will hardreset your device and all data will be lost.
Go to ftp://xda:[email protected]/Uploads/Alpine and download XDA_IIi_Upgrade_v1.11.162_Radio_1.04.rar . Extract the file to a folder of your choice. Then DELETE files ms_.nbf and nk.nbf from that folder, only leave radio_.nbf in place.
Connect your device to the PC via ActiveSync, then start MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe , it will not run through completely, after a while it will get stuck. Kill the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe via Windows task manager, while leaving your device connected. Then restart MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, the second time the update will go through.
After you finished, restore your Backup.
You will not lose your specific language settings.
hth,
Max

WoW! Thanks Alot Guys!!
Wow Thanks Guys!! I'll Do That!
not now actually, but this evenin i'll do it and let u know how it works cool!

Problem With Restore
upgrade done minor problem with restore from SD card... ---> at killing processes it freezes on 10seconds:/ why? any ideas?

umm, no idea! were you able to restore though anyway?

thx god yes! just now did it.
ok, here's the thing i dont understand:
1. afet hard reset - all data restored from the beginning
2. --> if all data lost -> then what happens to the available copy of Sprite Back-up on the device? its also lost correct? though i had it installed on my SD card, so its technically there, but not visible by the Device.
3. i click on the file, to load from SD card and auto-restore my device, and evrythin theoretically works fine except it freezes.
how did i fix it?
1. didnt work from PC, dunno why.
2. so what i did was install sprite back-up again, obviously crack it, and restore it manually from there ---> what happened? ---> FROZE AGAIN
3. so once i had the sprite back-up already installed once again (step 2), i just restored from the PC and this time it worked...weird...dunno what happened, what went wrong, but i was freaked out for a second & was goin2 rip my hair out. how do u guys restore? from PC or from PPC? and do u do it via the Sprite application or just by clickling the file on the PPC? more info needed hope it wont happen soon

It's probably one of the process started via the autostart that is has problems killing, try moving some things from \Windows\AutoStart to a backup folder some place, then reboot your device - try restore again - if it runs through copy the things you moved back into \Windows\AutoStart

hm...interesting. but here's another fact:
i was running in advanced mode::: i had also tried disabling the 'process kill' feature, and still at 10Seconds it froze for some reason....i dunno. i deleted the old backup on the sd, and i'm creating a new one. then i'll make a new back-up on the PC, and try restoring it once more both ways to figure it all out. freaky still

How to make a full-backup for TyTNII?

Hi, I'm looking for full backup method of my TyTNII before playing new application installration as my insurance...
Because sometimes system freezed during my trial, especially trial of Japanese charactor installation. (We can not go to Windows Mobile screen from hTC logo page , so I have to system reset (2 Function keys + Reset)...then retry everything...>_<
I offen use Ghost for my PC to make a backup.
Do we have any idea of making backup for TyTNII such as Ghost?
Your ideas I appreciate!

I'am use spb backup, option full... bye
http://www.spbsoftwarehouse.com/products/backup/?it

Also Sprite Backup 6.1 works nice in Kaiser WM6... i think better than SPB one... but only for me

I can personally attest that SPB Backup is a lifesaver. I was able to totally restore my Tilt last night after somehow managing to erase virtually everything.

Thanks all
I tried Spb last night, then could make a backup!
Thanks!!

I like Spirit Backup 6, which works really nice.

I have Sprite and Spb, my vote is Sprite. Although there is nothing wrong with Spb, Sprite gives me more options. Like backing up to the desktop.

When Sprite says it's going to "reset the device"....what does this mean? I don't want wipe everything off of the phone.
Also, how does it connect to the PC?
TIA

Sprite does a soft reset on your phone before it starts a backup, no it doesn't wipe your phone, just a normal soft reset. I'm guessing it does this just to make sure there are no programs running that can screw up the backup..
I too can attest to how well Sprite works. I've been using it since version 3 and I must say that version 6 works GREAT with the Tytn/Kaiser/Tilt. I by mistake half installed the MS Framework services (Don't do that!! ) and had to restore from backup which worked perfectly!
Now I'm not sure if this is a function of Sprite, or ActiveSync, but once you restore with this version you won't have to fully sync again which saves you from getting duplicate contacts,calendar events. With the older version you'd always need to do a full sync and ran into the issue with duplicate info..
Good luck!
-RT

OK, it resetting now.................
Now, it's backing up...............wow, 44.1M
Resetting again................
It worked! Backed up to storage card.
Thanks A Lot,
CR

With Spb, you can, using active sync, copy your backup file from your PPC storage card, to the hard drive of your PC. Then, if necessary, you can reverse and have a backup that you can use to restore in the event that you lose your micro storage card, or that it becomes corrupt.

prubin said:
With Spb, you can, using active sync, copy your backup file from your PPC storage card, to the hard drive of your PC. Then, if necessary, you can reverse and have a backup that you can use to restore in the event that you lose your micro storage card, or that it becomes corrupt.
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Thanks. I'll be hitting the road today, but will try it this week sometime.

Does Sprite and/or SPB make an "image". Or is it just backing up "data"? Is the only way to make an "image" of your device to custom cook a ROM?

I use Sprite back-up...spb works good but the last time I used spb it didn't offer an option to restore after a ROM upgrade...don't know if spb added this feature but that's the only reason why I would choose Sprite over spb...

I use Sprite BackUp,very good program and restoring between different ROM versions or different devices.

Where to Find Sprint Backup Application
I just found this thread doing a search on Ghost programs and I'm wondering if someone could tell me where to go to get Sprite Backup?
Thanks!!

bookluvr4u said:
I just found this thread doing a search on Ghost programs and I'm wondering if someone could tell me where to go to get Sprite Backup?
Thanks!!
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Sorry! Just noticed the Sprint in the title. Meant to say Sprite!

Hi
I have a AT&t Tilt
Sprite backup makes backup & creates Icons on Sd cards
I want to know Can we back up our cell phone useing the Older
back up than the recent one ?
Cos my Device shows very little free space
& it could be cos i have been trying all kinds of differnt software
Or is there a Way to make a Device clean up,
Like we do on our PC -Disk clean up
which Removes - Temporary Internet Files, etc
Thank you for your Help

I go into the file menu and delete them there.

chasr11 said:
I go into the file menu and delete them there.
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HOW ??
plz explain step by step
Start/ setting/ then...........

Sprite restore problem

I had my Kayser (TYTN2) repaired (it lost 3g connectivity).
Before sending device to approved repairer I made a backup using Sprite 6.1.
HTC replaced mainboard. I restored image from backup and now it tells me
"Incorrect password".
1. It is the same ROM, I checked
2. I do type correct password
My guess is that for whatever reason backup-restore did not drop off "password is on" flag in the registry, like it suppose to do (based on Sprite FAQ).
Could someone help me with either how to make it recognise correct PIN, or set flag to OFF, or reset PIN to some default value.
Thanks in advance.

I had the same problem, I was trying to restore using the .exe file but it didn't work.
I then reinstalled sprite backup and restored through it, and it worked fine.

Thanks. I will try it.
Did you reinstall it on you PC or on your device?

I tried to restore using PC installed Sprite - "Invalid Password" reponse
and from EXE uploaded to MicroSD card - it does restore and hangs showing HTC logo.
But EXE option allows for various options. With System Databases, System Settings, File System switched OFF - it worked, but it was not what I needed.
I will keep playing with settings for a while.

Whenever you do this, make sure you are using it in Upgrade mode. Since knowing that I haven't had to do any fixing on new device restores. You can access upgrade mode through the Sprite Advance Mode options.

There are several upgrade settings.
I've set it to "Safe restore" and "Restore Databases" and "Prompt for upgrade"
Also I choose to "Delete all files" and unchecked "Restore Security settings"
It hangs again showing HTC logo.
I keep will keep playing for a while ...

I don't know what version you're using, but if you go to Option, advanced settings, Options, Restore Options & Check "Enable Device Upgrade Mode" before you restore to a new device or ROM it has always worked for me.

Thanks!
I tried nearly every possible combination of upgrade settings and got three results:
1. Wrong Password
2. Does not boot
3. Boot without file system and registry.
I gave up - reinstalled everything. Now I am waiting for activation code for CoPilot - it refuses to activate on another mainboard

Problem after installing WM6.1

Hello all,
I have a TyTN II, bought in Switzerland, with a Swiss/French ROM.
Yesturday I had the brilliant idea to upgrade to WM6.1. Bad idea.
Before doing so, I made a full backup using Sprite Backup 5.1, thinking that I would get the best out of WM6.1 with all my current data.
The upgrade to WM6.1 went perfect. When I switched it back on, everything was OK. So I decided to perform a restore using the Sprite software, to get back all my data. During the process I recieve a warning message telling me that the the phone and operating system are not the same as on the backup...oups! I decide to ignore the message and press continue. Sprite does his thing, and the phone restarts. Only problem, it won't go past the HTC welcome logo...
I hard reset it. Start looking around on forums, and for some reason that today I can0t remember, I waste 25$ on the Sprite Backup 6.2 software. I try, but nothing works.
I write an email to Sprite explaining my problem, and here is the answer I get:
Hi guys,
I just bought your newest Sprite Backup product hoping that this would help, but it doesn't look so.
My issue is the following:
I have a HTC TyTN II that was running under WM 6.0 until now. Today I decided to upgrade to the WM 6.1 version. Prior to doing so I made a backup using the Sprite Backup software provided with my phone (on a HTC CD).
The backup went perfect. So I did the WM upgrade, and my phone configured perfect. I tried to restore the information from the backup to my phone. I first received a warning message telling me that this wasn't the phone or the WM version that I was using to create the backup. I thought that I should anyways have a try.
My phone performed the restore, but then wouldn't work. Only the HTC logo appeared and then it froze. Looking at some forums, I saw that a Hard Reset of the phone was advised, so I did it.
After this, still looking around forums i saw that people were talking about the fact that the new Sprite Backup software has this feature about retro compatibility with previous ROM versions. I thought that this would be the solution.
I bought the software and I'm desperately trying to restore the information. The only thing I get is the following error message:
"The selected backup file was created using a different version of Sprite Backup (5.1.0, Build 1449) and is incompatible with your current version (6.2.2, Build 2280)."
Guys, any help will be greatly appreciated, I had some important information on this backup and I would be extremely grateful if you could help me out to solve my problem.
Thank you in advance.
Best regards,
Ostap
Tama McCallum 23/07/2008 1:30:38 p.m.
Dear Ostap,
Thank you for contacting Sprite Software. Unfortunately Sprite Backup itself is not backwards compatible, so to restore your 5.1 backup file, you need to use Sprite Backup 5.1.
To restore please follow these steps;
a) Hard reset your device
b) Place the attached .CAB file onto your device
c) Open the .CAB file using File Explorer
d) Open Sprite Backup
e) Go into Options> Switch to Advanced Mode
f) Go into Options> Restore Options and select Enable Device Upgrade mode
g) Go back to the main menu and choose your desired backup file to be restored
h) Continue with the restoration ignoring any prompts that may arise
If you encounter any errors, please send me the resulting BackupLog.txt file created in the \Temp\Log folder on your device.
Best regards,
Tama McCallum
Sprite Software
Unfortunatly her suggestion does not work.
So I start going around the web again, and I find this site, that seems the most efficient and proffesional. I really hope that you will be able to help me out.
Just to finish, and to keep focus, what I really need is ONLY the contact information from my backup/old ROM. Is there a way to extract this information from the file on my PC, or revert back to my old ROM and be sure that the restore will work?
Thank you very much in advance.
Best regards,
Ostap

Look into Flashing from your SD card, and then see if you can find the 6.0 rom is the kaiser wiki. (you should be able to get to all of this through the links in my signature. If you can get back to 6.0 and use the backup I would then try syncing with outlook to backup your contact info. Then flash back to 6.1, sync again and then enjoy 6.1.

Edit: first, hard reset.
Then try this (extracted from the Sprite Backup 6.2.2. helpfile):
"Upgrade Mode
Sprite Backup uses different Restore modes depending on the change in device or Operating System.
To set Upgrade Mode Options follow the instructions below:
From the Sprite Backup main screen, select 'Options'.
From the 'Options' screen, select 'Restore'.
From the 'Restore Options' screen, select 'Upgrade'.
Enable/Disable the settings you require.
Press 'OK' to save the settings or 'Cancel' from the menu.
The 'Help' menu item displays this Help file.
Personal Data: Use this option to restore your personal data across different devices or ROM versions. This option will exclude everything except ‘My Documents’ contacts / calendars / tasks / call logs."
When I upgraded (also with a Swiss/French HTC ROM), I could backup all my personal data and then had to manually update my settings and reinstall my programs.
I hope this helps, good luck.

anoano said:
Try this (extracted from the Sprite Backup 6.2.2. helpfile):
"Upgrade Mode
Sprite Backup uses different Restore modes depending on the change in device or Operating System.
To set Upgrade Mode Options follow the instructions below:
From the Sprite Backup main screen, select 'Options'.
From the 'Options' screen, select 'Restore'.
From the 'Restore Options' screen, select 'Upgrade'.
Enable/Disable the settings you require.
Press 'OK' to save the settings or 'Cancel' from the menu.
The 'Help' menu item displays this Help file.
Personal Data: Use this option to restore Your personal data across different devices or ROM versions. This option will exclude everything except ‘My Documents’ contacts / calendars / tasks / call logs."
When I upgraded (also with a Swiss/French HTC ROM), I could backup all my personal data and then had to manually update my settings and reinstall my programs.
I hope this helps, good luck.
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Um, dude, he can't get into his phone..
Only problem, it won't go past the HTC welcome logo...
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anoano said:
Edit: first, hard reset.
Then try this (extracted from the Sprite Backup 6.2.2. helpfile):
"Upgrade Mode
Sprite Backup uses different Restore modes depending on the change in device or Operating System.
To set Upgrade Mode Options follow the instructions below:
From the Sprite Backup main screen, select 'Options'.
From the 'Options' screen, select 'Restore'.
From the 'Restore Options' screen, select 'Upgrade'.
Enable/Disable the settings you require.
Press 'OK' to save the settings or 'Cancel' from the menu.
The 'Help' menu item displays this Help file.
Personal Data: Use this option to restore your personal data across different devices or ROM versions. This option will exclude everything except ‘My Documents’ contacts / calendars / tasks / call logs."
When I upgraded (also with a Swiss/French HTC ROM), I could backup all my personal data and then had to manually update my settings and reinstall my programs.
I hope this helps, good luck.
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Thanks anoano
Sounded great, but unfortunatly nothing happened... I've tried this for a few times already.
ChumleyEX:
The problem is that I don't synchronize with Outlook. I use Outlook with my business phone, so the only place I had my contacts was the HTC and now the Backup I can't use.
As a last resort I will indeed follow your instructions about flashing and putting a 6.0 ROM and trying to restore from there.
Before we get there, do you guys have any other ideas?
Thanks!

The contacts are stored in pim.vol located in the root of your device. Try to either restore that file or extract it on your computer and copy it to your phone (if your phone is still stuck at the HTC logo you'll have to hard reset first, of course).
If WM won't let you overwrite your old pim.vol, try this trick (quoted from another post):
try to delete poutlook.lnk from the windows\startup folder
softreset
connect pda to your pc
rename pim.vol to pim2.vol
restore your pim.vol
immediately perform a soft reset
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This could work, provided the data layout of pim.vol hasn't changed in WM6.1.
Edit: You could also try to restore the personal data and then do as the Sprite lady told you, send her the log file. Perhaps they can work it out.

I had a similar problem to the OP. Turned out I'd restored the old Windows folder which of course doesn't work as it's a new version of Windows that came wit the new ROM image. So theanswer was to go reflash the new ROM, restart the restore, check that everything is checked to be restored except the Windows folder. It worked....

pudifoot:
GREAT!!! It worked, just the way the other post describes! It's perfect!
Thank you soooo much to all of you!
Take care.
Ostap

I'm glad it worked out for you!
For future backup and restore of your personal data you might want to check out PIM Backup.

Can't Recover PIM.VOL after hard reset !
Hi ... I have a similar problem.
I hard reset my phone and I saved PIM.VOL, now I'm trying to copy it over, successfuly, but after a soft reset the file reverts to it's new values ... (from a 5mb backup file to a 300kb blank file)
I don't know what to do ... tried safe more, total commander, waiting 60 seconds before reset, resetting imedietly after copy, SPB Backup (restore works but no contacts)
PLEASE HELP !!!
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Okay ! found what the problem was !, I installed hebrew support before restoring the contacts, it must have changed the format.
Thanks everybody, love this forum !
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Dammit ! I restored the contacts first, then installed the hebrew support and guess what, it all went to hell in a hand basket.
After the hebrew gets installed all the contacts and apointments just disapear !
Well ... what now ? heh ...

I have the same problem as the poster of this thread! But I cant get it to hard reset
I can't get a reset to work. I have nothing vital on the phone. Everything is backed up on SD. I just need a hard reset so I can load everything back manually. My PC doesn't even recognize through usb! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Not sure how to flash from SD but I already have the link to origonal rom saved to PC. Guess I could look into that, but a hard reset would be TONS easier!

rednekvolfan said:
I can't get a reset to work. I have nothing vital on the phone. Everything is backed up on SD. I just need a hard reset so I can load everything back manually. My PC doesn't even recognize through usb! Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Not sure how to flash from SD but I already have the link to origonal rom saved to PC. Guess I could look into that, but a hard reset would be TONS easier!
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Perform a soft reset with stylus, when the screen goes blank hold the camera button until a multi colored screen comes up and then reflash

I know this doesn't help much, but this is why you need to have a backup of the back - making sure it works. Even when you switch from a new rom, more likely you will have to rebuild it from scratch.. (Trust me, I know). It is a pain but in the long run once the rom is built to your prefence, sycing with exchange it a breese and no data is lost.
Your best bet is to take your device into the dealer, tech shop and have them revert back to the rom you were using.
It is always important to write this stuff down ahead of time before flashing..
Good Luck/
Tvos