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Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
Here's what you need
$400 and this
Do a search for "iphone skin" and programs like iFonz will help you.
Try to make it look unique and useful, instead of making it look like anothe 'me-too' product from Apple...
sell ur phone and get an iphone
bapssystupr3m3 said:
sell ur phone and get an iphone
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I agree... ebay
Jimmyy said:
I agree... ebay
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and lose all your 3rd party apps, 3.0mp camera, GPS, and kaiser greatness, lol.
BRILLIANT!
Or trade like I did, people are willing to trade.
mikeeey said:
and lose all your 3rd party apps, 3.0mp camera, GPS, and kaiser greatness, lol.
BRILLIANT!
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Hahaha, I rather have the guy loose that than skin alive a Sexy Kaiser with nasty iphone mock-up skins and such. It's not the devices fault he's confused =(
tvos said:
Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
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You're asking Kaiser Owners how to do this?
That's like going to the dark side and asking if theres anyway to skin your Red saber to look like obi-wans shiny blue one...
iphone skins are like dragQueens == you are not fooling that many people in the end
Why does everybody want having his phone look like that gayPhone (or anything starting with i- )?
So you're saying the WM6 user interface is better looking than the iPhone?
Please, I wish you all would STFU with that elitist asshole garbage man. The iPhone interface IS slick and DOES look good. Sometimes people don't want to deal with the WM interface, it isn't pretty. It isn't slick. Period.
If you don't like the fact that he wants an iPhone skin,stay the hell out of his thread, especially if you aren't going to contribute. He apparently doesn't care about your opinion about HIS phone, leave him alone.
Back on topic: Sorry about just adding to the clutter of your thread man, best advice I can give you is to just search around. I haven't tried any iPhone skins, but I do want to try it just to see how it works out.
well said noyz. the chap came on here looking for an answer (which, admittedly if he had searched a little he would have found) and everyone jumps at the occasion to spout loads of 'LOLZ IPHONE IS **** LOLZ' rubbish. people can skin their wm phones however they want - and im sure some people want it to look like an iphone, whilst retaining the kaisers excellent features. i personally dont, but i do use s2u, which i find is an excellent app.
my advice is to search here, and also - if you find theres a bit too much - give youtube a try - most of the 'wm6 iphone' style videos will list somewhere how they've done it, or at least what programs were used - and you'll get a good idea of what sort of stuff you want and dont.
but jesus christ, in what way is it helpful to him to comment 'sell your phone and buy an iphone' :|
im affraid to say thats one of the thnigs i dislike about this site - the arrogance and elitism.
why
Jamiewalshe said:
but jesus christ, in what way is it helpful to him to comment 'sell your phone and buy an iphone' :|
im affraid to say thats one of the thnigs i dislike about this site - the arrogance and elitism.
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Because its all about choices in life, He bought performance, how on earth can it behave like a iphone with WM, different touchscreen, different hardware etc. I think the interface of the iphone is beatifull, but it performs like nothing.
He decided performace, so he should accept that its not possible to make it a iphone, if he wants, sell the HTC and buy a iphone.
Why does everyone get mad when people suggest to sell the phone to get the iphone? If you want the iPhone UI and feel get an iPhone, plain and simple.
its obviously he doesnt want to magically turn it into an iphone! he just wants it to have a similar ui and look to it. hence the 'how can i skin my phone to look like an iphone'
my point about the 'sell the phone and buy an iphone' comment was that it wasnt constructive help in anyway. its like telling him he should have crapped in a toilet if he had announced that he crapped his pants, so to speak. it doesnt help at all.
what if you want the look and layout of an iphone but you want a wm device and all the features kaiser has? your way of thinking suggests your answer would be to buy nothing and wait, when an appropriate compromise can be made.
Jamiewalshe said:
your way of thinking suggests your answer would be to buy nothing and wait, when an appropriate compromise can be made.
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Yes, because itæs simply not possible to add an iphone UI to a WM6 device, I will not say het should sell his HTC and iphone, thats a little bit short thinking.
BUT, the poster should keep in mind that he does not have a iphone it is or-or, not both, a iphone iu will never be near realistic since the hardware is so different..
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Yes, because itæs simply not possible to add an iphone UI to a WM6 device, I will not say het should sell his HTC and iphone, thats a little bit short thinking.
BUT, the poster should keep in mind that he does not have a iphone it is or-or, not both, a iphone iu will never be near realistic since the hardware is so different..
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i agree, and it would be very naive to believe that a wm6 device could have an exact iphone ui, but for the sake of arguing - what can be done (taking into account differences in hardware) its not a million miles off.
without making too many assumptions, i would imagine the majority of those that use an iphone style ui on their wm6 device do so purely for aesthetic reasons.
tvos said:
Friends,
Is it possible to skin the AT&T WM6 ppc phone to look and behave like the Apple IPhone?
Tvos
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Hello Tvos,
If you're not interested in the WinMo interface and wont something that feels like an iPhone, you may want to test out an application called Point UI. It is not an iPhone interface but it does similarities like a sliding interface.
Hope this helps.
Hi guys, i just want to know what software you are using to make your kaiser look like a iphone,
I use: Freestyl, S2V, S2P, S2U2, Ifonz.
What do you use`?
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Hi guys, i just want to know what software you are using to make your kaiser look like a iphone,
I use: Freestyl, S2V, S2P, S2U2, Ifonz.
What do you use`?
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I use SEARCHto find my answers
Like most users, I use nothing to make my kaiser look like an iphone
I tried out Slide2unlock purely for it's locking abilities, and had to take it off because of the irritating fake interface, trying to pretend to be something it's not - yuk. Give me honest old Winmo anytime.
Boinng said:
Like most users, I use nothing to make my kaiser look like an iphone
I tried out Slide2unlock purely for it's locking abilities, and had to take it off because of the irritating fake interface, trying to pretend to be something it's not - yuk. Give me honest old Winmo anytime.
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You must be a carpenter, you lined that nail up and hit it right on the head!!!
It's like once a week some n00b posts a redundant thread about the iphone, if they search they can find plenty of answers.
If you like the iphone THEN BUY ONE.
Im sure i just opened a bag of worms, and by the end of they day, there will be tons of replies about how nice the GUI is and everything else these trendy tree hugging iphone lovers can think of to defend their theory.
Fact is the iphone sucks (and thats a fact)
http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP.../wa/RSLID?nnmm=browse&node=home/iphone/iphone
Anti Apple fanboys!
I think some of the comments from the antiapple fanboys are a little harsh. The fact is the guy has bought a Kaiser and likes the look of the iphone, so to him he's probably got the best of both worlds. I think everyone who immediately slags the iphone isn't seeing the full picture. It may have its faults with office syncing, no ability to configure etc.. but it is undoubtedly a thing of beauty with an interface that is ahead of it's time.
It amazes me that with all the hacking and modding going on in this forum that as soon as the dreaded "iphone" word is used all the antiappleheads race to be the first to flame the originator.
I would have given serious consideration to the iphone if it had the same functionality as the Kaiser but we all make choices. I for one think if people want to dress their Kaisers up as an iphone then fair play. I don't imagine anyone here with be giving the developer of slide2unlock a hard time for his app.
I'll wait for the inevitable backlash, yawn!!!!!
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Hi guys, i just want to know what software you are using to make your kaiser look like a iphone,
I use: Freestyl, S2V, S2P, S2U2, Ifonz.
What do you use`?
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Yeah, Hi Guys,
I have an iPhone that I paid $499 for. Is there any software I can spend lots of money on to make it look like a Windows Mobile device. I could have bought a Tilt for the same money, but why , when I can just buy an Iphone and make it look like a Kaiser. Your help is appreciated Thanks
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I think some of the comments from the antiapple fanboys are a little harsh. The fact is the guy has bought a Kaiser and likes the look of the iphone, so to him he's probably got the best of both worlds. I think everyone who immediately slags the iphone isn't seeing the full picture. It may have its faults with office syncing, no ability to configure etc.. but it is undoubtedly a thing of beauty with an interface that is ahead of it's time.
It amazes me that with all the hacking and modding going on in this forum that as soon as the dreaded "iphone" word is used all the antiappleheads race to be the first to flame the originator.
I would have given serious consideration to the iphone if it had the same functionality as the Kaiser but we all make choices. I for one think if people want to dress their Kaisers up as an iphone then fair play. I don't imagine anyone here with be giving the developer of slide2unlock a hard time for his app.
I'll wait for the inevitable backlash, yawn!!!!!
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Hey if he used THE SEARCH TOOL He would have found the answer.
j1ngles said:
I think some of the comments from the antiapple fanboys are a little harsh. The fact is the guy has bought a Kaiser and likes the look of the iphone, so to him he's probably got the best of both worlds. I think everyone who immediately slags the iphone isn't seeing the full picture. It may have its faults with office syncing, no ability to configure etc.. but it is undoubtedly a thing of beauty with an interface that is ahead of it's time.
It amazes me that with all the hacking and modding going on in this forum that as soon as the dreaded "iphone" word is used all the antiappleheads race to be the first to flame the originator.
I would have given serious consideration to the iphone if it had the same functionality as the Kaiser but we all make choices. I for one think if people want to dress their Kaisers up as an iphone then fair play. I don't imagine anyone here with be giving the developer of slide2unlock a hard time for his app.
I'll wait for the inevitable backlash, yawn!!!!!
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My wife's got an iPhone. Cool device indeed. So cool that I find it ridiculous to try to copy it's interface to our Kaiser. The Kaiser's simply not meant to be used like an iphone.
There's 2 different philosophy behind, it's like trying to adapt 7 seats cause you like space in a Mini or a Smart cause you like tiny little cars.
BUT using good ideas from the iphone that obviously can be adapted and adds value to the Kaiser is a good idea. I think that's exactly what HTC has done with the Diamond.
denco7 said:
Yeah, Hi Guys,
I have an iPhone that I paid $499 for. Is there any software I can spend lots of money on to make it look like a Windows Mobile device. I could have bought a Tilt for the same money, but why , when I can just buy an Iphone and make it look like a Kaiser. Your help is appreciated Thanks
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You sir are funny.
Really worthwhile replies from "senior" member KD8DNS. Just so everyone can rest easy tonight
KD8DNS uses the search tool
I'd probably have a couple of hundred posts by now posting that crap
j1ngles said:
Really worthwhile replies from "senior" member KD8DNS. Just so everyone can rest easy tonight
KD8DNS uses the search tool
I'd probably have a couple of hundred posts by now posting that crap
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I did a forum search using the key phrase " petty bickering over suggestions to search " and would you believe it ? It took me to the end of every thread on this site. Can we stop now?
FreddernLFC said:
Hi guys, i just want to know what software you are using to make your kaiser look like a iphone,
I use: Freestyl, S2V, S2P, S2U2, Ifonz.
What do you use`?
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If I wanted my Tilt to look like an iPhone, I'd have just bought one.
j1ngles said:
Really worthwhile replies from "senior" member KD8DNS. Just so everyone can rest easy tonight
KD8DNS uses the search tool
I'd probably have a couple of hundred posts by now posting that crap
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Over 1000 topics regarding the iphone, just in the xdadev site alone, so dont critisize me for telling someone to search, I rest my case http://www.google.com/cse?cx=000825...phone&sa=Search&cof=FORID:0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
USE THE SEARCH TOOL, and every other "senior member" will tell you the same thing.
The way I look at it is this, if someone has something new to add, it may not be in a search, as it is the guy is obviously new to the forum so rather than lambasting him immediately why not gently break him in. We were all new to this once and there's way too many bashers here already
j1ngles said:
I think some of the comments from the antiapple fanboys are a little harsh. The fact is the guy has bought a Kaiser and likes the look of the iphone, so to him he's probably got the best of both worlds. I think everyone who immediately slags the iphone isn't seeing the full picture. It may have its faults with office syncing, no ability to configure etc.. but it is undoubtedly a thing of beauty with an interface that is ahead of it's time.
It amazes me that with all the hacking and modding going on in this forum that as soon as the dreaded "iphone" word is used all the antiappleheads race to be the first to flame the originator.
I would have given serious consideration to the iphone if it had the same functionality as the Kaiser but we all make choices. I for one think if people want to dress their Kaisers up as an iphone then fair play. I don't imagine anyone here with be giving the developer of slide2unlock a hard time for his app.
I'll wait for the inevitable backlash, yawn!!!!!
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All this coming from the same person who freaked out over a white dot on dutty's splash screen? Thats priceless. Be carefule guys. He might give you the DWDOD. "The Dreaded White Dot of Death"
j1ngles said:
Really worthwhile replies from "senior" member KD8DNS. Just so everyone can rest easy tonight
KD8DNS uses the search tool
I'd probably have a couple of hundred posts by now posting that crap
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I know I do.
KD8DNS, I see this thread to be more of a preference thread, like a discussion on what people like and don't like. I guess it could be useful, if you actually care about the IPhone. (the new Iphone looks like it might be nice)
Tater, how may I protect myself from said Evil White Dot?
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All this coming from the same person who freaked out over a white dot on dutty's splash screen? Thats priceless. Be carefule guys. He might give you the DWDOD. "The Dreaded White Dot of Death"
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That's not the same person dude...is it? I thought his handle was something else.
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That's not the same person dude...is it? I thought his handle was something else.
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you are right, i apologize. it was jtsunami.
j1ngles was a serial threader when he started. who earned a one week ban for attacking mods.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337401 << "The all encompassing help j1ngles with his kaiser thread"
So it's safe now? I can get out from under the table? The white dots are no more?
Right now the Diamond is the best phone on the market and that includes the iPhone. But I think it will be my last Windows Mobile phone, it all depends on whether Apple can fix the shortcomings of iPhone next time around. The main reasons I will jump is because
1) The iPhones slick UI and large screen
2) iPhone is getting better developer support than Windows Mobile - eg where are the windows mobile facebook, myspace and shaznam apps? they dont exist. Imagine the situation in 12 months!
3) Storage - 4GB is too small. 16 an above.. much nicer.
Things Apple need to improve for me to jump ship
- Bluetooth file exchange
-A2DP
-MMS
-Video calling
-Open up the phone - let me use it as a USB storage device, let me dump media on it without itunes
- VGA screen?
- Let me sync tasks over exchange
- Support external storage cards?
Thats really it for me, and they are getting close. I do love Windows Mobile but its the lack of developer support now that irks me. It never used to be this way, but now sadly use Windows Mobile users are being ignored.
First off, Apple loves to keep you in their little world, so you'll never be able to use an iPhone outside of iTunes to transfer files. Second, most of the Apps cost money, the WinMo availability of freeware is above and beyond IMO. Third, why not just wait around for a Touch Pro (up to 32GB) if you want memory card support? I agree with you in some ways, the iPhone has a very appealing UI and big screen, but I can't say I'll be converting any time soon. I'll leave the iPhone 3G to my girlfriend and be happy with a Touch Pro, whenever that may be. Best of luck with whichever device you choose, hope your cellular experience is a good one.
Well in terms of UI - yeah the Diamond works well. The main thing that concerns me is developer support, and im noticing this as my other half has a 3G iphone now. Nothing new is being developed for windows mobile, yet the app store continues to thrive.
Have you used facebook on iphone, its amazing - I can view all my contacts pictures in full screen high quality. Now the Diamond has a higher resolution screen.. so wheres its facebook app.. oh right there isnt one. Same with myspace, same with skybymobile, same with shaznam, same with ebay - there just isnt the support for windows mobile anymore, so this is going way beyond the matter of UI and frills
As for storage - come on! would it have killed HTC to put a micro SD slot in the Diamond? The Touch Pro is ugly and obese, not an option for me
I need communications.
What the f** should I want facebook and all those other crap site need for ???
If you need phone for entertainment get yourself that I phone. But I need it for my business and I'd be ashamed to hold up an I phone in front of customers.
It's that little toy thing, an I phone. The diamond isn't and does the job with sms, calling, exchange, activesyncing, emailing, easy to use, and some photo's videos just as good not better.
I get tired of these topics.
There's a program for eBay but it's $3.99 a month I think, as for MySpace, MySpace Mobile? I don't know, but once SkyFire releases it won't matter... It'll all be as good as we've ever seen it.
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As for storage - come on! would it have killed HTC to put a micro SD slot in the Diamond? The Touch Pro is ugly and obese, not an option for me
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Well I'm from the states, so of course I have no morals when it comes to obesity... Touch Pro for me!
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Things Apple need to improve for me to jump ship
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- Bluetooth file exchange
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Wasn't neither intruduced by iPhone 3G nor Firmware 2.0. How long do you want to wait for a feature that almost ANY other bluetooth-enabled device supports just on market appearance?
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-A2DP
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see above.
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-MMS
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see above. MMS ist just as old as bluetooth btw. I remember of my SonyEricsson T68i which was one of the first MMS mobiles that also had color screen and bluetooth.
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-Video calling
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see above. 3G iPhone claims to support UMTS. For me, video telephony is substantial part of UMTS. So what? Apple fooled you again.
darthbane2k said:
-Open up the phone
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This will NEVER happen. Apple even tries to hire hackers just to make their software more closed (They call it secure)
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- let me use it as a USB storage device, let me dump media on it without itunes
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Also unlikely to happen. Older iPods had this feature, has been disabled later on. I don' t think they' ll jump forward and backward all the time and just stay with how it is atm.
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- VGA screen?
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Maybe. Still Apple would come too late with this. Already (widely) available on the market.
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- Let me sync tasks over exchange
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Did you read iPhone 3G / Firmware 2.0 feature list? They claim Exchange is supported. But I am sure ActiveSync is not, so really only interesting for business customers with their own Exchange server. Yeah I knowthere is free Mail2Web provider, but I think they' ll discontinue their free service if enough are using it.
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- Support external storage cards?
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Maybe. But also unlikely.
BTW you forgot the possibility to change battery. LOL, guess my answer on that one.
darthbane2k said:
Thats really it for me, and they are getting close.
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You see, in fact they aren' t.
i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond.
as for comparisons between the diamond and ipod .......give me a break....there are more here and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
lol i am revenged. an over "300 posts" beaten to the pulp by a "23 posts".
Riel said:
I need communications.
What the f** should I want facebook and all those other crap site need for ???
If you need phone for entertainment get yourself that I phone. But I need it for my business and I'd be ashamed to hold up an I phone in front of customers.
It's that little toy thing, an I phone. The diamond isn't and does the job with sms, calling, exchange, activesyncing, emailing, easy to use, and some photo's videos just as good not better.
I get tired of these topics.
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sorry mate but I use the best of both worlds
exchange for corporate use and social networking for personal use.
Is that so wrong? The Diamond (or rather Windows Mobile) is fully capable, its just not being supported.
Black93300ZX said:
There's a program for eBay but it's $3.99 a month I think, as for MySpace, MySpace Mobile? I don't know, but once SkyFire releases it won't matter... It'll all be as good as we've ever seen it.
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Well Opera renders facebook/myspace pretty damn well but it cant display pictures in full screen like the iphone versions. The diamond has a damn gorgeous screen - just imagine viewing friends' holiday snaps in full screen? The possibilties are endless, the tech is being wasted.
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i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
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In fact you don' t even understand that. Or how was that again when I asked about that LED/Lightsensor thing and you hit me?
KukurikU said:
i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond. there are more comparisons between the diamond and ipod here, on the forum and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
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Wrong - this thread is very necessary. Its about improving the diamond through developement.
We all agree that the diamond has a fantastic spec right? Well how many apps out there are taking advantage of its technology? The facebook thing was an example. I mean there is not decent facebook app for a VGA screen - no shazam app for windows mobile professional at all. Im not comparing apples with oranges but the Diamond's features are not being fully exploited. Why are developers jumping ship? Windows mobile used to be kick ass for developer support.
We will have more high end WM devices soon, touch pro, omnia, xperia... so whats the excuse?
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Have you used facebook on iphone, its amazing - I can view all my contacts pictures in full screen high quality. Now the Diamond has a higher resolution screen.. so wheres its facebook app.. oh right there isnt one.
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I don't use facebook so I can not test it but this site claims to have a facebook app:
http://faceofmobile.com/
sandeman684 said:
I don't use facebook so I can not test it but this site claims to have a facebook app:
http://faceofmobile.com/
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friendmobilizer and snap2face do not work on vga devices. So we are back to square one. friendmobilizer is the worst - doesnt even support full screen images and looks ugly. No one is exploting the diamond's technology, and then we have the omnia,touch pro, xperia waiting in the rings - a whole host of VGA windows mobile devices that have no real support.
KukurikU said:
i know yr reaction it is not going to be pretty but i have to say this:
i hate this kind of threads. the forum is full with them, not all the ppl are satisfied with their diamond, i know, but is it necessary to share this here, in diamonds forum? what is the contribution of this kind of posts? i can even understand a noob that jump in with a stupid question but this....?
i think i am not the only one not interested in who and why is going to sell/not buy or move over from diamond.
as for comparisons between the diamond and ipod .......give me a break....there are more here and on the net then noobs per hour on this forum.
please, enough!
lol i am revenged. an over "300 posts" beaten to the pulp by a "23 posts".
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I think there should be a section called DIAMOND FEEDBACK... where everyone can slag off or praise the diamond as much as they like, not cluttering up the main forum. It would be the place to go to literally get feedback on what people think of their Diamonds. This wouldnt be too hard to implement, would it?
tomchap said:
I think there should be a section called DIAMOND FEEDBACK... where everyone can slag off or praise the diamond as much as they like, not cluttering up the main forum. It would be the place to go to literally get feedback on what people think of their Diamonds. This wouldnt be too hard to implement, would it?
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No one is slagging off the Diamond. I love mine, its a fantasic device - my concern is that windows mobile is losing developer support rapidly, and as a concequence the diamond has no real support for VGA apps that take advantage of its hardware.
I find it highly ironic that you accuse me of cluttering up the main forum when that same forum is full of redundant threads such as "lets try to copy that novelty beer app for the iphone"
Well, the diamond is out for what is it? 2 months now?
It's the wirst WIDELY used phone with VGA screen so MAYBE we have to wait a little for other apps to come??
Here we go again
Oh dear...
here we go again...
The Admins of XDA should create a forum under the Diamond section called iWhine - that way we can put all the rubbish in it and leave the actual Diamond forums...well... DIAMOND-ORIENTED!
Riel said:
Well, the diamond is out for what is it? 2 months now?
It's the wirst WIDELY used phone with VGA screen so MAYBE we have to wait a little for other apps to come??
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hold on so WE have to wait longer while the iphones app store thrives with more and more significant releases? There is a big problem with developer support for windows mobile at the moment and im not sure whose responsibility it is to turn things around.. Microsofts perhaps?
mkhattab said:
Oh dear...
here we go again...
The Admins of XDA should create a forum under the Diamond section called iWhine - that way we can put all the rubbish in it and leave the actual Diamond forums...well... DIAMOND-ORIENTED!
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This is Diamond orientated. Did you even read the posts on this thread?
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...
The Iphone is sooo cute.......It's amazing how impressed people get with what are nothing but a bunch of shortcuts on the phone, You can't do everything you can on WM
If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.
Squeaky369 said:
You don't need any software to do that; it already does.
iPhone users can't figure out how to use these types of phones, you need to be intelligent too, and, well, Apple users really aren't that intelligent...
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Well, that's the the hardest point: make the non intelligent understand that they are such.
pingels said:
If you are looking to get justification from me (or someone else) about the $$ you spent on the kaiser (vs. iphone), then you obviously missed the point.
p.s. you probably should have just asked what the best software was--instead of "why is my 1 year old phone better than the iphone"
p.p.s. maybe you should have bought an iphone. you might be one of the people Squeaky369 was talking about.
...of course, it sounds like he's trying to justify the kaiser also.
Here's my $0.02:
I used to only own sony ericsson phones. until I bought an Audiovox SMT5600. cool phone, but it just needed a "insert newest feature here," to be perfect. Then the next HTC phone came out, and, viola! I bought that one. fast forward through 6 HTC phones in as ~4 years.
I like them because they have great support by the folks here at xda-developers. THAT's enough for me. Customer support, only provided by people who actually care, the customer.
to sum it all up, the kaiser is only a good phone because of this website.
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You totally missed me: If I could get iphone for $100 less than what i have payed for my kaiser (and maybe I could - i just didnt look for) I would never got an apple,
I am more than proud to have my kaiser and I bought it after reading this website for long time and understanding that powerful machine with power web support is what I need. for me the apple is like a toy for spoiled users, but I do find myself many times trying to justify my choice.
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I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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Anywho, Skyfire. Nuff said. Load it up enabled HSDPA on your phone and head to anysite playing video. I watched that new Chris Rock special on my phone today at work, had the entire crew laughing.
when sanchez get his program out, then you can show them your phone can do everything the iphone does. just showing how customizable it is should do the trick
c'mon man...you already got them with copy and paste!
udi1 said:
I'm looking for the one (or better more than 1) app that will kick all the surrounding iphone addicts and will get them to see that the kaiser is not failing even with graphics and interface. I think that a game that takes the graphics to the the limit will do the job - any suggestions?
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dude, you don't need any special application. just copy and paste and they'll run off crying like little girls
Just show them a cursory list of WM apps/games available for the TyTN II and that'll scare them sh*tless!!!! Nevermind the Java stuff too.
Just show them how customisable the TyTN II is also,
and and and and and...the list is almost endles!!!
I have a thread here somewhere where I had a device shoot-out with a colleague a few months back. He has (had now hehehehehe) an Apple iPhoney and I have my TyTN II....he ran for the hills dude!!!!!!!!
Show them Manila 2D
I wowed an iPhone user when I showed them my tilt with M2D running. What's up with youtube on iPhone looking like crap? LOL
kaiser VS. iphone
hey.
no dought. iphone is like a simple video game, and kaiser is like a small computer with all the posebilities-just think of one...
in every compresion i read, the kaiser took the iphone by far.
be proud to have a kaiser. a fantastic machine indeed. let the childrens play with their iphones
Are you expecting somebody to say "there was a guy with an iphone, and i pulled out my kaiser and showed him my latest program. his girlfriend left him for me and gave me a lot of money. then i asked him about copying and pasting and he grabbed his groin because my metaphorical kick actually caused him pain."
Funny, cbass.
No, but there is a joy to all of this. It's not about who's swinging the bigger stick. It's just that some iPhone owners are so ridiculous about their phones (while most of the iPhone owners I know already have either broken the screen or just traded them in.)
A buddy of mine lives 3000 miles away. I called him up to let him know I was visiting. Knowing he's a gadget geek, I asked if he had the new 3G iPhone. He did. He asked if I had it. I said "No, I bought the Tilt." He laughed and told me about three coworkers who bought Tilts and hated them. How ugly the screens were. How impractical. I kept my mouth shut knowing I had just put TouchFlo 2d on the Tilt and wanted to wait for him to see it in person. Now I have a buddy who is pissed he bought an iPhone.
P.S. I don't know where you guys bought your Kaisers. I bought mine from AT&T (refurbished, not that you could tell) for $150.
A horse that had just purchased an iPhone walked into a bar...bartender asked, "Why the long face?"
Thank you, thank you...
Just go to an iPhone owner, put your tilt up to their face, and ask, "Can your fancy phone DO THIS!!!" as you slide out the keyboard to the transformers sound they will have no other choice but to rip their garment apart and gnash their teeth in repentance...
This is the funniest thread ever!
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This is the funniest thread ever!
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iphone killer thread... should be stickied!!
No offense, but there is no comparison
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.
esnyder58 said:
I'm not saying iPhone is better, but that there really is no comparison.
The point of the iPhone is to be slick, simple, and easy to use. According to the vast user community, it meets those objectives. My VP buddy has the iPhone and so do most of the execs at our company now. The reason they like it is that it just "does what they want", and nothing more.
I tell the 1st buddy I mentioned about all the cool things my phone does, and he says "I don't need that". End of argument. I ask if this or that on the iPhone is configurable. He doesn't want to configure it.
When asked about the user interface, he says "They nailed it", meaning it is perfect. He doesn't need a slide-out keyboard, because the on-screen keyboard works just fine for him. No... He probably can't type as fast as I can on the Tilt, but he says "I don't need to type fast".
So there it is: The iPhone community (and it is growing) are guys that are not stupid.. their world just does not revolve around their phone as ours does. It isn't a toy to make better -- it is a tool.
An iPhone killer is a stripped down, simple, rudimentary version of the software I have now. It is so stripped down that it probably works a bit more reliably and a bit more spritely in responding to commands. It also has one more feature -- consistency of user interface. It can't "dump to the same old e-mail interface" when you just came off the slick screen. It still has to zoom and flip and do all that. iFonz was close, but the version I used wasn't very fast on the Kaiser. And to me (I'm one of you -- make no mistake) it didn't do all I wanted! (so I have to disqualify myself on that point... )
Someone should make that slick simple phone -- oh, they do --- but we wouldn't like it...
So it is about market. In my opinion, Apple knows how to mass market to people -- not engineers -- and HTC and MS know how to market to engineers. Unfortunately, people outnumber engineers by a considerable margin.
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Actually alot of them do revolve around there phones..... they are materialistic about it alot of times. if apple can put their name on it they will buy it.
I would have to say it is a opinion though. just over a year ago people were amazed when i had a phone with a touch screen. now they don't hardly make phones without them. People are used to having a phone that did only the basic functions and anything more than that is over whelming to them to have much more than simple.
Reguardless it really is an inteligence thing. people are intimidated by carrying around a computer in their pocket and yet i can tell them they are amazed everytme they see my phone after i have flashed a new rom "its like a having a new phone everytime" I've actually talked about 10 different people into gettng this phone in the last 6 months reguardsless that its "death" is schedulled at the end of this year. I'm maitaing a fleet of kaisers and training windows mobile users. They all were confused when they got them but about all you have to say is it runs just like windows and all the sudden it gets easier and easier.......
One thing i can say is noone i have ever talked to after i show them around to all the things they can do and how to use them have ever gone, "damn i shouldn't have gotten this phone." they all go off to flaunt it to their iphone friends.
Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.
I went the other way. Had enough of the low-res toy that is the Iphone, with Apple constantly blocking users from doing what they want.
My condolences
Well - as always it depends on what you want from your device... If you are satisfied with the abilities apple lets you use - go for the iphone. If you want a device you can customize in every way you want - go for a WM-device. And I have to agree with arfster: The resolution on the iphone is a disgrace! I'm definitely not willing to go to anything below VGA after having a WVGA device!
But I'm happy as long as your happy with the iphone!
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My condolences
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LOL
Nice one!
I used to own an iPod touch (Iphone without the phone) and just found it to gimmicky. Sooner or later you will get bored of useless apps & games and come running back
Anyway have fun with your iPhone! I certainly would like to have one for 12 months +!
Ben.
sedde said:
Hello, i am a WM user since my qtek s200, and that is a way back, i love WM phones, i had over 6 WM devices and now i had a contract renewal and i got myself an iphone 3gs. I am a iphone hater -or maybe was-, and i do have the device for 4 days now. To my suprise the iphone is really good, really fast, and now that has turn by turn navigation its really usable. Fluent graphics, really powerful applications, and really really good support.
I thought i would never say this, but i am selling both my HD's, and its gonna take me a while to get back to WM devices.
Flame as you guys want, i just wanted to give my 2 cents on the thing thats happening.
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Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.
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Congratuations.
I've seen enough of what it can do to know that you're making the right move. Once jailbroken, I've seen how customizable it is, perhaps even more customizable than winmo phone. Everytime I see her, the phone looks different. She was having a HTC Hero look just the other day, and before that it looked like a Palm Pre. I've seen my cousin's iPhone and played with it, and it is truly amazing and awesome. Fantastic application functionalities and choices. Fantastic speed and smoothness. Fantastic for internet on the go. Fantastic media device.
I'm half way there in my saving to buy a second hand 3GS.
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What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.
Yes you now have turn by turn navigation but just see what happens when you take a phone call. On my Diamond TomTom just continued working and I could chat away to my heart's content. The iPhone will terminate the satnav application to tale the call. The iPhone is very, very shiny but has some serious restrictions - not to mention having to jailbreak to get away from the control freakery that is Apple.
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theres my thoughts
kidding but in all seriousness, and im sure we remember the other conversations iphone is for ppl and winmo is for others
it depends on what ur needs are from the deivice
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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+1 for this!
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What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can't they just ressurrect one of the other 1000 threads that were started everytime Apple passes gas. ?
I have five Macs currently, am typing this on a Mac, my first PDA was an Apple Newton. I have been an Apple fanboy for 30yrs. And am on my second iPhone.
I also love my Kaiser. Now when I got my new 3Gs last month, my first thought wasn't to rush right over to XDA to start a new thread to announce that I had gotten a new iPhone, why is that everyone elses first thought ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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denco7 said:
What is it about people that they feel the need to come on a Windows Mobile forum to start a new thread to announce that they just got a new iPhone ?
Can we just add all the " I just got a new iPhone " threads to the AS team's list of duties ?
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The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...
galaxys said:
The AS team thinks these should be considered spam, but we need the xda admin's blessing...
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Plus one for this
poetryrocksalot said:
What stuff from HTC Hero or Palm Pre did you actually see? Are you certain that it is customizable. Because all I can see is the same old home screen with an HTC Hero Wallpaper.
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No, it's more than a mere wallpaper. It also includes customizing the icons, the keyboards, the phone pad, the home screen itself, etc.
Did some googling, and found this..
Of course, don't expect it to have the complete behaviour of HTC hero, just like you would not expect a winmo phone that has been customized to mimic iphone to behave like iPhone.
Cheers.