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How to get rid of the letter suggestion bar?

Hola to everyone
I'm new here, and I most say I have been reading around and it is a great forum . I also got a HTC TyTN II, and installed the HTC Touch Keyboard... it works fine!
However I don't have a clue about how to dissable the bar just on top of the keyboard... it shows up suggesting some words while I am typing but dont know how to handle it...
How to get rid of that letter sugestion bar? Or how does it works? Is there kind of help about that in some thread here?
Thanks in advance for your help...

It's going to be a LONG road if you don't learn to search and read, my friend.

grizzley said:
It's going to be a LONG road if you don't learn to search and read, my friend.
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In the interest of good will........
Try looking under settings, input, word completion.

I second what grizley said.
Try looking for a disable xt9 cab. This disables the suggestion above the keyboard.
The suggest as you type is in Input settings.

Hi guys
Thanks,
Sorry if I said something obvious... (Im really getting use of Windows Mobile environment, I used to have a Nokia with symbian) When I posted here it was becuase it was already driving me crazy taping here and there for more than one hour (I like the riddles but...) I had no results. I was trying all kind of things in Imput (the up arrow)>options... but nothing worked to get rid of the suggestion bar, at least not in HTC Touch keyboard. In the TouchPal it was easy, it has its own options to solve this things.
I was trying in Settings>Imput and unchecking word completion, for instance, as suggested here... I also changed the language to mine (spanish) does not work yet, and the HTC Touch keyboard is now kinda frozen: means I push the letters and they do not react (nunbers do). I soft reseted, and the problem is still there. Next step: I will uninstall HTC Keyboard, and then (maybe) install it again. Anyway, Touchpal seems to be a easier and handier keyboard...

Word suggestion doesn't appear in any keyboard - please advice

I love (so far) my HTC Diamond but there is one pretty annoying problem. It seems I cannot get word suggestions while typing and this is for any keyboard type.
Any ideas?

Same problem in the IPAQ 614c
I am having the same problem on my IPAQ 614c. I installed this file to disable to XT9 option but it did not help. It may work for you. I would love to get an answer to my problem. Many thanks.
Jay

Could you please post a link to the discussion where this file is described?

Have you played around with the T9 settings?
Start/settings/input/ (check the word completion tab here and choose your options)
Go back to unput method tab
Have compact Qwerty in the window/Options/T9 settings

unfortunately this doesn't work.

keyboard
The best is TouchPal 3.0

correction, I'm speaking about default WM keyboard not about HTC one.

Ok, do you have a Word Completion tab in your input settings?
If so, which options have you chosen?
I have tick Suggest word when entering text
Suggest after entering 4 letters
Suggest 4 words
Tick in Add space after word
Tick in Enable Auto Correct.

I'm sorry, I was wrong, I just tried this out myself, and mine isn't working either. I've never used the normal keyboard before, as it's so small, but it seems like having the Touch keyboards stops that word suggestion happening in normal keyboard. My apologies.

There seems to be a solution to this problem here: PocketCM Keyboard. Good luck! I have tried it and it works great. Awesome!

This Should Work

need help virtual keyboard

I've done a a lot of reading and made good progress, but I'm stuck on this one.
I'm using "Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_Official_5.2.19209_1_58_16_27 [FIX]" build atm and while it's fast and I like it for the most part, the keyboard is horrible, takes up half the screen is missing keys and I really don't like it. I've tried to get back the original keyboard but it won't all me to switch from the one he has built into the rom. I've uninstalled the pcm keyboard and installing Keyboard_Cert.reg KeyboardSkins.CAB and also SJ KeybSkin_Touch.cab. in several variations. At best I was able to turn the keyboard white with black letters.
How can i get rid of the pcm keyboard and load the defaults.
please help
p.s. How come many of the dutty roms and have a password and they say the password is in the 1st/2nd post but it's not? I read some of those 6 times and searched them for "pass" and never found the password. I found some people listing a password later in the thread, but it was a password that did not work.

Am I writing in the wrong language or something? I've spent at least 20 hours reading wikii and faq's and post after post and seariching with google and the site's built in search only to wind up going in circles, trying to find specific answers, but not getting anywhere.
Would someone please point me to the info or just tell me ?

Still need help

yea this thread should be answered i have having the same problem..

I have Duttys Diamond V1 ROM. I didn't like the default kayboard or the XT9 that guesses what word your trying to type. My ROM did have the original defult keyboard installed but it would not stay my defult keyboard after a soft reset. I'm not sure exactly what you issue is but this might help.
Install "disable XT9" cab to disable XT9
Install "SIP change" cab change the defult kayboard to the one of you choice.
the above can be found here (look for post 139, should be the 4th post down):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=398271&page=161
I'm also including:
the "OEM default Keyboard" cab, with I assume installs the OEM keyboard (if you don't have it), and "Tilt keyboard fix" incase you have a Tilt with a hardware keyboard that dosen't have the FN keys coerectly mapped fot the Tilt.
Hope that's what you looking for.

Thanks worked fine only took about 1 min.

jonb2 said:
Thanks worked fine only took about 1 min.
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Glad to help...

SWISS-FRENCH Keyboard layout development

Hi you guy out there!
I recently bought me a Raphael from our beloved Swisscom and guess what: it was crap until I flashed ROMeOS2.
But I was a fool not to backup the entire Windows folder before flashing. I have 2 problems now:
1st I lost TomTom. The maps are still available on storage card but the installation has gone an no cab file to restore it :-(
2nd I'm stuck on an French AZERTY keyboard! To solve this I beg you:
Backup all language files on your Raphael before flashing and send it to me via e-mail so that my task to cook us a Swiss-French keyboard would be much easier!
The important files are, I think, the PQwertyxxxxxx.txt located in Windows folder. But the best, in oder do fix both the problems would be to backup the entire Windows folder.
PM me or reply to this thread it you are interested in helping or send me mails!
Here is what I have so far:
http://www.modaco.com/content/smart...obile-smartphone-internationalization-issues/
Every help is very welcome!

I have more or lesse the same problem, but I would need the swiss-german keyboard. Especially the settings to get the hardware keyboard working with äöü and éàè etc. would be nice.
About TomTom. You can get the installation cab for TomTom from the extended cab collection for ROMeOS2 from Monx here
http://monx.aplace4u.biz/ROMeOS2RAPHAEL/GER/EXTENDED/
This is listed under the german version, but I think it's multilanguage. Got it to work with the maps that were still on my SD card after flashing from swisscom to ROMeOS2 rom.

All right, sounds interesting. I Know that swiss-german keyboards are quite similar to swiss-french. The only difference is in fact this damn éàè and öäü.
Do you know any one who hasn'f flashed his Raphael yet? I basicly don't want to start on an empty base. As I said I'd like to have the PQwertyxxxxxx.txt files to modify...
Have you been on poketpc.ch forum and checked there for solutions? There are many German speaking guys how use Romeos. I don't have many time this month to do research.
Many thanks for le TomTom cab link, I'll check this out soon and keep you updated.
[edit]: TomTom Install worked great. It is multilingual indeed. Thanx noigear!

Mr. HD said:
Do you know any one who hasn'f flashed his Raphael yet? I basicly don't want to start on an empty base. As I said I'd like to have the PQwertyxxxxxx.txt files to modify...
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I only know somebody with an original diamond... that won't be much help for the hardware keyboard
I might still take a look at it when I get a chance to do so. I'll check out pocketpc.ch in the meantime.
Mr. HD said:
Many thanks for le TomTom cab link, I'll check this out soon and keep you updated.
[edit]: TomTom Install worked great. It is multilingual indeed. Thanx noigear!
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You're welcome! I'm glad I could help you

Mr. HD said:
1st I lost TomTom. The maps are still available on storage card but the installation has gone an no cab file to restore it :-(
2nd I'm stuck on an French AZERTY keyboard! To solve this I beg you:
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If you're talking about the Hardware Keyboard, you can change it easily to any map you like. To do that, using a registry editor, navigate to HKLM\HARDWARE\DEVICEMAP\KEYBD change th value of CurLang to 2055 for CH-DE
For any other keyboard mapping referr to http://www.microsoft.com/globaldev/r...p/xp-lcid.mspx and get the value listed for the desired language.
Don't forget to softreboot and you're done.
Hope this helps

And what about remaping not full keyboard layot but some buttons in any stations? (With Fn or Shift pressed).
Are Hardware Keyboard is sensible to PQwertyxxxxxx.txt files, or this mapping info is only for touch screen layot?

Owww god damned, I don't beleve it, the solution is sooooo simple (Sorry for my swearing, it's just emotional, lol)
Thank you a lot bluenote77 for this advise.
Unfortunately for vip77, I do not care at all for the touch screen keyboard so i'm not gonna spend more time as necessary to find an answer to the question. May be on my next vacation...
The absolut luxury at the moment would be if you guys knew a tweak for the SMS/MMS button on the keyboard, to call the SMS application by default...

Mr. HD, I'm talking about hardware keyboard, not screen virtual.
I want to remap digits from 1-9 in not english layout, because input of digits avilible only in english layot and not avilible in other language layot.
It's not useful.

@VIP77
All right, in that case, you might be able o perform a remap within the PQwertyxxxxxx.txt files. But I didnt figure out how they work and what kind of data (HEX or ALPHA) they contain.
I'm alway glad to have inputs about that.
Chears

Mr. HD thank you for this information. I spend alot time to find solution for this issue. My primary language is Russian, so every user of HTC TP have this issue. Also we can't input "." symbol. "Trick" is switching layot every time, when i need input digit or dot. It's owful.
Some peoples made new firmware, that have this fix, but they don't want talk about solution. And i don't want go to this version for some reason. I was trying change KbdNopAll.dll to new, from this firmware, but digit input disapiared from all layots.
So i have opinion, that some files or dll's may contaion addition info, not only KbdNopAll.dll driver.
Also i find program, that scan codes and can remap them from buttons and they have similar form. Like codes from PQwertyxxxxxx.txt
It's called AEKeyboard Mapper.
http://ae.inc.ru/aekmap.php
Problem - this software scan codes only in english layot. In russian on all keypresses returning only one code.
So i think I can scan button codes, find them in PQwertyxxxxxx.txt files and change or alias.
Something like this )

This sounds like a painfull job. I hope you will get an issue. in case you didn't see here's the link from my first post, maybe it will help you.
http://www.modaco.com/content/smart...obile-smartphone-internationalization-issues/

Update OK
i have correct my german Raphael with ceregedit, and in /HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/HARDWARE/DEVICEMAP/KEYBD/ i have set 2055 (German_Swiss ), and work fine!
thanks for the help!

Hi Mr. HD,
Don't know if you still need it or if it might be helpful but I have a backup of my old Sunrise stock ROM. Just send me a PM should you need it.
HTH
Cheers

HELP: ENABLING Block Recognizer in input menu?

Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG

gnarolibero said:
Hi all,
just got my topaz and flashed a cooked ROM (wm 6.5 LP EVO V-ITA to be precise).
i really need to enable block-letter recognising, after years practising i cannot live without...
afer some search, i have tried editing this
For letter recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
For block recognizer:
Code:
[HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSIPInputMethod]
"Default"="1"
but apparently is not working
can somebody pls help me?
thks
GG
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I have a cab (thanks to !Aman!). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.

thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
"]!Aman![/URL]). You can get block recog.cab from my Topaz File Mirror.[/QUOTE]

gnarolibero said:
thks but is not working...
anybody knows the proper registry tweak?
thanks in advance
gg
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strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?

BeeGee_Tokyo said:
strange it works for me on WM 6.1
what ROM are you using it for?
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I'm trying to get the Block recognizer too.
It seems to me that Microsoft blocked it in WM 6.5

EzInput 2.1 doesnt support old SIP methods like block recongniser, thats why it doesnt work for you guys.

!Aman! said:
EzInput 2.1 doesn't support old SIP methods like block recognizer, that's why it doesn't work for you guys.
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Hey Aman, but at Microsoft WebPage, they talk about the input methods for WM 6.5 and Block/Letter Recognize are there !!!!!!!
I though that the nes versions of cooked ROM's would be able to have then too.

Finally working BR and LR
Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo
So sorry for keeping you guys waiting. The following are the steps I took based on my memory.
To enable the Letter Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
To enable the Block Recognizer SIP, set this to 1:
HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\CLSID\{42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9}\IsSipInputMethod
"Default"="1" – Enabled
You will notice that this will not make the SIP appear, for example, in your SMS application. However, it should appear in the pulldown menu at Start->Settings->Personal->Input. Now, if you try to set the Letter Recognizer as default, thinking that it will appear in SMS application, it doesn't. For some reason, it will always default back to the Touch Input (or EzInput) SIP.
So, the next step is to make the Letter Recognizer SIP the default. To do that, check the value at
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
It should be "0654897B-B359-473F-B28B-D85CF601C57F" (for Touch Input SIP). Replace that with
"42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9" (for Letter Recognizer SIP).
WARNING -- very very important to make sure the above is entered correctly. According to some posts elsewhere, a non existent SIP can crash your device. You might want to confirm if you have the Letter Recognizer SIP by searching for the msim.dll file. If it exists, I suppose it is probably safe.
After soft reset (power on/off device), you should now see the Letter Recognizer in your SMS application. However, you will also notice it doesn't work properly. For eg, the Capital Letter (left panel) doesn't work, there is this irritating word suggestions thing that keep popping up, it is quite slow and quite inaccurate, the Help doesn't work well.
To resolve these problems, set the following to 1:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\HTC\ezsip\IsOtherSip
Do a soft reset and the problems should disappear and you have a good Letter Recognizer to work with (even with fingernail), save for the following problems:
a. Sometimes response may not be very good. Can be quite slow especially if you are entering letters like "i", "r". Maybe this is because of the screen sensitivity.
b. If you click on the little triangle and want to switch to the Touch Input SIP, you can. But the problem is that you can't switch back to the Letter Recognizer anymore unless you do a soft reset. I guess this is OK if you use Letter Recognizer exclusively, but if you want the Chinese Handwriting feature in Touch Input (which is pretty good IMO), then it is not good.
Sorry for the long post. Thought it is better to also share my observations. I am a newbie with registry thing, so I prefer to do step by step and hence many soft resets. If you are gungho enough, just do the steps in bold followed by a soft reset. Hope it works for all you guys.
Note -- if you don't feel safe doing the registry changes, an alternative is to use the Touch Input SIP but set the waiting time to the shortest possible which will reduce the delay. But it is still very irritating to use IMHO.
Cheers

Just to remember all that the solution I described at the previous post is not mine and was Originally Posted by NothingBetterToDo. So, many thnaks to him for the great solution !!!!!!

Info for the ones that doesnt have en version
Hi
Info to all of you with other language then english.
The file msim.dll are country specific, in sweden its called msimsw.dll so i guess you will be able to find your version if you search the registry for msmi and then you will find a msmiXX.dll that is the correct one for your country.
I hade to add the info for {42429690-AE04-11D0-A4F8-00AA00A749B9} and {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} because it was missing info so it's not enought to only change the IsSipInputMethod to 1.
I have attached the files i used, but plz realise that this one is for swedish a version. You can edit the files with notepad to adress the localized .dll file for your country.
After this to be able to use the input methods i did what nicksalgado said and change
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Sip\DefaultIm
to {42429691-ae04-11d0-a4f8-00aa00a749b9} to use Block recognizer as default im
/SebulbaSe

Hi
I have the "RUU_Topaz_S_HTC_SPA_2.16.412.1_Radio_Sign_Topaz_61.44tc.25.32_4.49.25.17_Ship", and has the same problem that you describe. I use the HTC Pure from AT&T, and in the original AT&T ROM the Block Recognizer work it just fine. Is there a way to captura a cab to use to solve this problem from the original AT&T Rom?? Regards

OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.

yulbeast said:
OK The tweak worked for me. Now I have got rid of that annoying keyboard. Anyway I would like to have the option of choosing the keyboard in a drop down list like before the rom update. Now the block recognizer is the one and only input method.
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Use this app to choose your SIP.

Activation of the Letter/Block Recognizer cookbook
Hi all
thanks, it works perfectly on my Topaz.
How to desactivate properly and completely block recognizer (register and so on) of my Topaz now, because I want tu use the SPB Back Up of my Topaz on my Touch2..and I am sure I will Have some problems with this change..?
Thanks

It's not a good idea to use a full backup file from one device to a different one.