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My phone is a Siemens sx-66. Its really frustrating me to the point that I am ready to toss this thing into the lake.
I am very grateful that this forum exists. I have spent many hours reading the WIKI site for Blue Angel and other valuable collections of data. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.
I am looking for a fix for my phone. Here's the details.
My sim card is an AT&T Wireless card. My phone is a branded, Unlocked Cingular phone. AT&T was bought out by Cingular. My previous phone (motorola v600) broke so I bought this phone on Ebay, popped my Sim in and it worked.
I upgraded the ROM and here is the current report from DeviceData.
Model No: PH20B
Minor Version: B1
Language Code: WWE
Operator Code: XGULA
ROM Version: 1.33.10
Extended ROM Version: 1.40.125
Radio Version: 1.02.10
Minor: 02.10
I should change my Sim card to a new Cingular one, but I have chosen not because the plan I have with the former AT&T Wireless has a TON of minutes and Cingular doesn't have a plan that large. My contract is now up and I am hoping to renegotiate my plan with the business dept.
Here's what my phone is doing: I can be in the middle of a call, using my bluetooth earpiece ( I am always using the BT) and all of a sudden, the phone will soft reset. A few times, it will even hard reset. The hard reset is a major Pain in my ARSE because then I have to re-enter all my internet access settings and email settings again. This usually takes about 45 minutes of my time. :shock:
The thought just occurred to me that the problem could be my battery. I don't know enough to know if I need an additional software upgrade or not. Advice is appreciated. I am afraid of upgrading to WM5 because of the bugs that people have complained about.
I love my PDA phone. It keeps me more organized than I've ever been. Unfortunately, the recent problems have caused more problems than they solve.
Best Regards,
ArtisticStain
Dallas, TX, USA
Thia ia why I upgraded to WM5, but...
The problem is probably a loose battery connector, using a case helped my phone a lot (kept the battery from coming loose), however, you really might want to go with a WM5 install, the worst of the WM5 issues are:
1. Slow phone ringing (there are patches that are supposed to fix this)
2. Some software won't let you become a "registered user" because they do goofy stuff with the registry and your system doesn't respond in their goofy expected way anymore
3. Some people have issues with Blue Tooth, I just wanted features that didn't work in 2003 either, so this is really a non issue (IMO).
Good luck, I still think that you should really consider WM5.
umm... i actually had this problem at one point, but i honestly doubt i had the same one you do. With mine, all the screws under the battery were loose, and everytime i would shake the phone, or anything like that, it would hard reset. I doubt thats it, but check the screws under the battery... maybe some of them are loose?
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siemens_sx66 said:
The problem is probably a loose battery connector, using a case helped my phone a lot (kept the battery from coming loose), however, you really might want to go with a WM5 install, the worst of the WM5 issues are:
1. Slow phone ringing (there are patches that are supposed to fix this)
2. Some software won't let you become a "registered user" because they do goofy stuff with the registry and your system doesn't respond in their goofy expected way anymore
3. Some people have issues with Blue Tooth, I just wanted features that didn't work in 2003 either, so this is really a non issue (IMO).
Good luck, I still think that you should really consider WM5.
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What are the real, operating advantages of WM5?? I don't want to deal with any more haywire issues with my phone or it will end up at the bottom of a lake.
REALLY NEED SOME HEAVY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
I am still using the same OS as above. Something has been happening lately...
When my cell receives an incoming call, it doesn't receive it. The red light shows up and the caller's info shows up on history as a missed call but the phone never rang.
What the hell is going on??
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I am still using the same OS as above. Something has been happening lately...
When my cell receives an incoming call, it doesn't receive it. The red light shows up and the caller's info shows up on history as a missed call but the phone never rang.
What the hell is going on??
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try to reflash to win2003se or pick a snazzy wm5 from our boys here, I have the same model.
we had extra 2400mAh batteries laying around so we popped them in these models, definitely a must.
I suggest an aluminum alloy/magnesium case they sell online for about $20US if you can find it, lined with neoprene
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...90008633724&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
Thanks for the info. I contacted cingular and they said they were having technical issues with converting or upgrading stuff.
I'll let you know if I change my mind about upgrading to WM5 but for now, I'll stay put. Upgrading will be my last resort.
This is a very sad thing!
I have my Tilt (thankfully got the defective one replaced!) and I set it up to sync with my exchange 2007 server which should be push e-mail. In fact I know it is....
On the AT&T stock rom, it stays connected 24/7, never goes offline which is what it's supposed to do.
I get home, flash on the HTC ROM. Set up the partnership with my server, and I look, an hour later it's offline, showing last synchronized 45 minutes ago. I hit sync, it syncs, stays online for maybe ten minutes, then the same thing.
I've tried every cooked ROM too, same deal.
When I do manually sync, it doesnt try to connect to the network, it's already connected. I was wondering if the network settings may need to be tweaked...?
I've already tried adding an exclusive in task manager for activesync.
I'm using a Tilt and on AT&T.
I'm really going to be upset if Im locked to the AT&T rom just because the other ROMS dont handle active sync properly...and I can't beleive that the stock HTC rom has a problem like this...so I'm wondering if the network wizard may not be entering all of the proper settings...
Oh, and as a side note, this is my second Tilt, the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior. AT&T ROM stays connected properly, non-stock ROM disconnects....
Any advise? I dont want to be stuck with AT&T!
I'm wondering if it's you. it works fine for thousands of other people, and for you, 2 phones it's been "broke"
I had my phone disconnectng from active sync. It didnt bother me in the least because I'm not updating my phone but maybe once a day, i really dont care if it disconnects every 15 minutes. After I found out it was my USB hub, it's worked perfectly ever since. And I never once blamed the phone.
Hey now...no need for any snippy tones there...
I was asking for help here, not looking to be blamed as the source....
Exchange 2007 is supposed to remain totally connected 24/7....and it isnt. And Ive been able to recreate the problem on two separate devices....
So just looking to see if anyone else had had the same.....
lostinvt said:
Oh, and as a side note, this is my second Tilt, the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior. AT&T ROM stays connected properly, non-stock ROM disconnects....
Any advise? I dont want to be stuck with AT&T!
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You must admit - this statement boggles the mind. You expect AT&T to replace a device because it only works right on their network with the software they shipped on it? Umm, that's their whole EXCUSE for shipping custom ROMs and you're busily proving them right....
It's obviously too late to ask you not to return a hacked device as "defective" and f$ck it all up for the rest of us, but please don't do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your actual question would probably better be phrased as "Anyone on AT&T managing to keep ActiveSync continuously connected to Exchange 2007 with non-AT&T ROM?"
Not at all...I actually had a boat of other problems with my first Tilt..I did not in any way return it because of this problem...
Im not daft...I would never go back to AT&T and ask them to replace something because I monkeyed with it and broke it...
My scroll wheel stopped working along with my GPS....which is why I returned it...after restoring the AT&T ROM back onto it.
So...I will just drop this since it seems as if nobody actually can listen to my problem and offer up solutions,but would rather take potshots at their impressions of my behavior.
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would rather take potshots at their impressions of my behavior.
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No offense, but if you write more clearly you will be misunderstood less.
the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior doesn't read many other ways than "I returned the last one for this problem".
i gave you a suggestion to start looking at. AT&T and us posters arent out to get you. trust me.
this may sound kind of obvious, but did you check your sync schedule in ActiveSync? Make sure it is set to as items arrive.
I have my activesync working fine with Exchange 2003 on AT&T's network.
Only other thing I can think is if you have KaiserTweak set to disconnnect GPRS automatically after X amount of time.
I have the same problem with mt Tilt. If I use the ATT ROM it works fine but if I move to one of the HTC ROMS I get that problem with Activesync disconnecting from the Exchange server.
I had the same issue on my 8500 with some of the cooked ROMs. On that device the ATT ROM and vp3G's ROMS worked fine (except for one of his; the hybrid I think).
For now I'm just sticking to the ATT ROM and pray vp3G gets a Tilt so he can start making ROMs for our device.
If you don't want all the ATT bloat installed then hard reset and then just hit the soft reset button when it pops up saying it going to customize the device in 3 seconds.
me + kaiser + htc rom + exchange 2007 + at&t network = working just fine
eric b
Psy....
THANK YOU!
At least Im not nutso...
I am using the clear AT&T ROM which actually runs very well...its just the customizer in me that needs to make things better even if they arent broken!
Everybody else...sorry if we got off on the wrong foot with this thread...
Start fresh?
I wanted to throw an update out there....
My desire to figure this out got the best of me, so Ive been pretty much just flashing and experimenting for the last few days, and I think I may have actually figured this out....
It looks like it IS something to do with the network wizard. I pulled out a cingular settings cab from my hermes days. Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
lostinvt said:
Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
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Nice work! What I've done to track this kind of thing is to use DotFred's TaskManager and export the *entire* registry before and after, then use a "diff" type utility to compare the two. Some obvious timestamps, etc, always change but it's usually pretty apparent where the change(s) were.
Might be interesting to do that between your working config and the wizard's config and see if there's just one or two settings different....
Richard
lostinvt said:
Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
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I wonder what all there is in the cab file? I haven't tested it on my Tilt but on the 8525 if I canceled the customization and inputed the network settings myself it didn't stay connected.
Where do I get a copy of this cab file so I can look at it?
I'm attaching the cab for the settings....been working like a champ for over a day now, so Im going to call this issue resolved in my book....
rsoloman,
Sounds like a plan...there definitely has to be something different between the AT&T settings both in the cab and included in the AT&T ROM versus what comes with the network wizard......
Sounds like a scooby doo mystery to me!
lostinvt said:
Sounds like a plan...there definitely has to be something different between the AT&T settings both in the cab and included in the AT&T ROM versus what comes with the network wizard......
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Well, personally I'm happy on the AT&T ROM, so it will take someone else running the .reg file extractions. I'll be happy to help analyze the two, but right now it won't be me extracting them
Richard
For the record I'm using a tilt flashed to HTC ROM on at&t without any AS problems running Exchange Push.
I always manually input the at&t settings though.
Mine actually worked fine both the stock AT&T rom and the HTC rom. I just started having this problem with duty's touchflo tilt rom. The cab posted here did not make any change for me. Any other suggestions?
ActiveSync BOOSTER
Is there a way to boost up speed of Sync
Is there a any software or Cab file for it ?
Also want to know after we sync Phone
It keeps repeating to sync, is there a way to stop it ?
With removing the phone
Please Help
Not sure how this has come about but I used to be able to connect to internet really easily through my work laptop when the TyTn II was connected by either Bluetooth or USB. Now I don't seem to be able to connect to either????
When connecting through USB I seem to be able to connect to the PC via 'Internet Sharing' which also lights up the 'Data Connection' icon but when I try to use IE it just says 'Cannot connect using current settings'. Thing is, I haven't changed anything and it used to work fine. Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it. Beginning to think a seperate phone/PDA may be best way ahead.
Unsure of whether the problem is related to the official 6.1 upgrade or the install of NoData (as I got fed up with accidentally hitting the weather and Quick GPS refresh and having the phone eat money).
Regardless of what I try I can't seem to get it to connect to internet albeit phone shows as connected via both Bluetooth or USB.
Short of solving this (and I'm not sure where to start) I'm temted to do a reflash and leave out things like No Data etc etc and just see if it works again. Bit of a nuisance really.
Tried searching all manner of related topics but no joy so far
It is a problem with the WM 6.1 official HTC update
I had exactly the same problem in reverse with my TyTN II when it was running the WM 6.1 (the same official HTC ROM that you have). By 'in reverse' I mean I couldn't initially do internet related things on the TyTN II using my home internet (either via USB or Bluetooth connection). It was fine before but after the upgrade thats when the problem occurred. I didn't have any additional software installed apart from Tomtom Navigator 6.032 (HTC Version) so I don't think your NoData install will be to blame (at least not solely). I did manage to get pocket IE working under these circumstances though after I had a fiddle around in the connections tab under settings - or was it Activesyncs settings.... I could never get the automatic Quick GPS updates to occur though, even under those settings and I still had to manually update (although it did use the home internet connection when I did this).
I remember that I changed a drop down selection from something along the lines of this device is connected to 'Auto' to make it 'The Internet'. Sorry for being so vague but I've now reverted to the original WM 6.0 ROM (more precisely I had HTC do it for free under the warranty) and none of the options I'm looking at now ring any bells. Perhaps someone else recalls more clearly what settings change is required.
I think the most important part of your post is:
Empgamer said:
Getting a bit fed up with the whole TyTn II at moment as I seem to spend more time fathoming why it's not doing what I want than doing it.
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Thats how I felt about the HTC upgrade that wasn't. I was quick to go down the upgrade path but since it's been back with WM 6.0 other than a few uncommanded resets in the first day or two which haven't since reoccured, the device is now rock solid again. Of course it'd be nice to think the latest HTC upgrade didn't introduce more problems than were already present but in my experience their current update is more trouble than it's worth (and you haven't even mentioned GPS). If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you decide you want it reverted under warranty, I found the HTC Repair Centre (at least here in the UK) to do a fine job of it. I dropped off my phone in the morning, after booking it in over ther phone the day before and it was ready at the end of the same day.
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself. It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kaiser_ROMs
The spl is an issue - reverting it
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Or you can always download the original shipped roms here off the wiki and flash it yourself.
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I was tempted to do that myself (and even asked HTC for the downgrade file to do so) but there are a couple of issues for those of us that like to keep things 'HTC Official'. A big one for me is that since HTC was responsible for creating the buggy WM 6.1 ROM, they should also accept responsibility for fixing it (fat chance of that, I agree with what -888- wrote in the WM 6.0 vs. WM 6.1 thread here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=432482&page=4 along the lines of the best developers being assigned to the latest and greatest products). If they're not going to fix it, then they should at least revert the device to a reliable state. I was in a fortunate position to be in the area of the HTC Repair Centre but if it means sending the phone away, I understand why some might prefer the DIY option.
It only takes about 10 minutes. You dont have to download a special SPL for an OEM rom
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There's alot to digest about ROM (and Radio and spl) flashing in the wiki and that takes much more than 10 mins. Although a special spl such as hardSPL isn't used with the HTC official setups, the spl does need to be reverted from the 3.28 version with the official WM 6.1 WWE, back to a 1.xx version with WM 6.0 for proper functioning. That isn't just a simple case of running the RUU program like the upgrade to WM 6.1 was - it has to be manually reverted (presumably using something like jumpSPL and the procedure in the wiki for restoring a device for warranty purposes) so it gets more complicated. I was expecting spl version something along the lines of 1.56 on my WM 6.0 setup (to match the ROM numbers) but they installed 1.93, presumably because it was more reliable or offered other performance benifits. Perhaps the ideal spl is in the package already but again this cant just be run like the WM 6.1 upgrade was so there's some jiggery pokery involved
I tend to agree. Not sure why I really bothered with 6.1. One of the first things I did was use Kaiser Tweaks to turn threaded SMS off.
I didn't realise that reverting to WM 6.0 would require more than reflashing so that makes it a little more problematic. I'm not near a HTC Centre. The whole device certainly seems more buggy under 6.1 than it did before and this internet through laptop problem is a nuisance. Being fairly unimpressed with Co-Pilot I don't use GPS that much and, withe the aside that i think I've used the keyboard twice since I had it (another 'essential' I'd put on my list for phone/PDA attributes), I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
Post is an option.
Empgamer said:
I'm beginning to wonder if return to factor state and sell it might not be the better option, reverting to a Nokia E51 and Ipaq 214 Enterprise combination
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Of course it's up to you but don't forget that even though you may not be near a HTC Repair Centre, you could still call them up on the phone to make the booking and post the device to them once you've arranged to have it reverted. They should do it for free but confirm this so you don't get any unpleasant surprises.
I've had my Tilt running pretty smoothly on the stock firmware since I bought it over the summer (camera stopped working, but that's a different story). Anyway, I did a backup this morning (SPB Backup), and after the reboot I couldn't get a voice signal. If I pushed the phone button, nothing would happen! Now here's the weird thing: I'm able to get a data connection (was able to get new email), but the phone icon still says no service. Has anybody experienced this before, or know of any fixes? I've soft-booted a few times, but didn't want to hard boot if there was a simpler way.
And yes I did search this entire forum for similar posts, but didn't find any.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a different SIM from a different operator?
you might want to try a different SIM from a different operator just to be sure your SIM and/or operator is not the problem.
if it works with another SIM, you can be fairly certain that it is NOT a hardware issue...in which case, a hard reset will more than likely resolve your problem.
also, are you able to receive incoming calls? what kind of a message does the caller get in case your phone doesn't even wake up and ring? finally, have you tested sms text messaging? try sending a message to someone and also try to receive an sms text message from someone...these little steps will help you confirm whether or not you are experiencing a hardware issue...in which case you might want to consider having it checked/fixed under warranty.
keep searching...cheers !!!
Happened to me once. I tried everything, but didn't work. If it's under warranty, AT&T will replace it. I went through 3 units in the 11 months I owned tilt.
hmmm have you tried flashing another Radio? (don't know what happened to your camera, but if you've got cam & phone issues, it's worth checking the Radio...
It's happened to me twicw also. This is an SPB Backup quirk. I'm afraid a hard reset is all that's left to do.
Well,
first of check if you're connecting to the correct network AT&T and not accidently logged on to the T-Mobile network - perform a manual network search / selection on your device.
If the above step does not help, try to restore your device with the SPB Backup you made. If that also does not work, well, then ... yeah ... hard reset! I would not really consider a RADIO FLASH on your device since it semmed to be working fine for you before that?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried doing a full restore of the latest backup (that morning), and that seemed to bring back the phone functionality. However, the restore also eliminated a few of my main programs, which was very weird! So, I did a full restore from the previous backup and tested that one out. Everything was like it should be. Then I did a restore of the latest backup's tasks/appointments (only things that changed), and now I'm back to full operation
As a side question, since I'm running WM 6.0 and want to flash to 6.1, would I be able to do a full restore from SPB Backup... or would that be incompatible with the upgraded OS?
You won't be able to perform a FULL RESTORE. There are a couple of changes in WM6.1, so, just to be on the save side I would suggest that you back up your PIM data, then flash to 6.1, restore your PIM data and reinstall all of your application.
BTW:
I was running WM6.1 on my MWg Zinc II and couldn't find any real advantages other than THREADED SMS. The Pocket IE gets a whole bunch of new bugs (for example Frames in websites are not shown or not shown correctly) and experienced a couple of incompatibilities with 3rd-party software application. If you still want to take a chance, good luck! However, I do not believe that you can go back to WM6.0 once you flash to 6.1!
I wouldn't upgrade to 6.1 if you're running SPB software. I was running 6.1 without problems, then loaded SPB Phone Suite, Diary, and Pocket Plus, and suddenly Garmin XT couldn't locate satellites at all. It took several hard and soft resets, and a visit to the SPB forums to realize that 6.1 could be the culprit, and it was. All problems disappeared with 6.0. There was a post at the SPB forums that *seemed* to indicate that SPB apps hadn't been fully tested--they may have used the word "certified"--with 6.1. Good luck.
No, that's not it -- I'm running the latest versions of all of those SPB titles on a stock 6.1 with no problems.
i have no spb apps on this one and i have the problem...it just can't fix the network
it happened few days ago to a guy that isn't quite familiar with ppcs he somehow turned it off and when he turned it on he couldn't get the network...eventually he hooked up after half a day (i'm not sure for how long did this problem last because i don't know does he use soft reset and flight mode)...so i took the kaiser to test it and to see what happened..i messed with flight mode and SR it couldn't find the net at all
tried wm6 and two wm6 radios
tried wm6.1 and two wm6.1 radios
i'll try android...just to test the module itself..if there are any hardware issues
Ive had my tytn 2 for a little over a month now, and I've noticed something when I'm using the phone for heavy texting. After a while, the phone will more or less freeze. The chime stops sounding for a new text, however, the phone continues to operate, and will recieve calls. Also, when the alert stops sounding, if I close the text messaging and return to the today screen, the screen is all scrambled. I have done a few hard resets now to try and clear the problem. I am going to be unable to return the phone to the place I bought it from, as we had a disagreement over the last phone I purchased through them(long story). The touch screen still works on the today screen, and if you know where to push, it will still open programs, just everything looks like snow....
Now, I have WM 6.1 on it(factory rom) ROM version 3.29.422.1 WWE, the ROM date is 05/20/08. The radio version is 1.70.18.02. The phone is used on a T-mobile affiliate(IWireless) network. The techs there are idiots, and I don't think they could dial with this let alone tell me how to fix it....
My previous phone was a T-mobile MDA, which I did love. I know about using different ROMS, Im just not sure how/which one to use on my TYTN 2. HELP ME PLEASE!
anybody have this problem too? it is getting incredibly irritating. I called tech support last night, and the people that I talked to had no idea what I was even talking about. It almost seems as if there is a lag in the programs. I occasionaly get a screen that is telling me that tmail.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. i let it send the error report, but the text program stays open.
Any help would be appreciated!
have you tried to reflash to the factory rom?
Can you warranty it with HTC?
Sounds like a harware problem -- specifically the cable that connects the keyboard is either loosly connected or damaged.
Try to get service directly through HTC -- but if you can't you might want to open it up and see if the cable is seated properly
im not sure it it is a hardware problem, as the phone will go skitzo on me even if I open the keyboard and leave it open. it usually would only do it when im texting, but it did it today, when the phone was on silent, I switched it back to on, and read a text message(did not open it), and when I tried to close the text and return to the today screen, it froze up again, and I had to do a soft reset. im really thinking its a software issue...
I would try to reflash, I had a ROM on mine that had the same problem, I did a reflash and never had the problem again.
Is there any way that I can do the reflash and still have the pre-loaded settings from my carrier? I'm thinking that I can't, but is there a place that I can be pointed to to get a copy of how to do the re-flash? It's got WM 6.1 Professional on it, and it is a branded copy(maybe part of the problem?). Obviously, I need to take some time to write down all of the settings for internet and such...
Are you talking about the network settings or something else? Most ROM's have a connection wizard that will setup network and MMS settings.
mostly the settings for the mms messages, and the internet settings. when I flashed a new rom to my mda, I had to manually put them in, the auto wizards wouldn't work.