Ive had my tytn 2 for a little over a month now, and I've noticed something when I'm using the phone for heavy texting. After a while, the phone will more or less freeze. The chime stops sounding for a new text, however, the phone continues to operate, and will recieve calls. Also, when the alert stops sounding, if I close the text messaging and return to the today screen, the screen is all scrambled. I have done a few hard resets now to try and clear the problem. I am going to be unable to return the phone to the place I bought it from, as we had a disagreement over the last phone I purchased through them(long story). The touch screen still works on the today screen, and if you know where to push, it will still open programs, just everything looks like snow....
Now, I have WM 6.1 on it(factory rom) ROM version 3.29.422.1 WWE, the ROM date is 05/20/08. The radio version is 1.70.18.02. The phone is used on a T-mobile affiliate(IWireless) network. The techs there are idiots, and I don't think they could dial with this let alone tell me how to fix it....
My previous phone was a T-mobile MDA, which I did love. I know about using different ROMS, Im just not sure how/which one to use on my TYTN 2. HELP ME PLEASE!
anybody have this problem too? it is getting incredibly irritating. I called tech support last night, and the people that I talked to had no idea what I was even talking about. It almost seems as if there is a lag in the programs. I occasionaly get a screen that is telling me that tmail.exe has encountered a problem and needs to close. i let it send the error report, but the text program stays open.
Any help would be appreciated!
have you tried to reflash to the factory rom?
Can you warranty it with HTC?
Sounds like a harware problem -- specifically the cable that connects the keyboard is either loosly connected or damaged.
Try to get service directly through HTC -- but if you can't you might want to open it up and see if the cable is seated properly
im not sure it it is a hardware problem, as the phone will go skitzo on me even if I open the keyboard and leave it open. it usually would only do it when im texting, but it did it today, when the phone was on silent, I switched it back to on, and read a text message(did not open it), and when I tried to close the text and return to the today screen, it froze up again, and I had to do a soft reset. im really thinking its a software issue...
I would try to reflash, I had a ROM on mine that had the same problem, I did a reflash and never had the problem again.
Is there any way that I can do the reflash and still have the pre-loaded settings from my carrier? I'm thinking that I can't, but is there a place that I can be pointed to to get a copy of how to do the re-flash? It's got WM 6.1 Professional on it, and it is a branded copy(maybe part of the problem?). Obviously, I need to take some time to write down all of the settings for internet and such...
Are you talking about the network settings or something else? Most ROM's have a connection wizard that will setup network and MMS settings.
mostly the settings for the mms messages, and the internet settings. when I flashed a new rom to my mda, I had to manually put them in, the auto wizards wouldn't work.
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This is a very sad thing!
I have my Tilt (thankfully got the defective one replaced!) and I set it up to sync with my exchange 2007 server which should be push e-mail. In fact I know it is....
On the AT&T stock rom, it stays connected 24/7, never goes offline which is what it's supposed to do.
I get home, flash on the HTC ROM. Set up the partnership with my server, and I look, an hour later it's offline, showing last synchronized 45 minutes ago. I hit sync, it syncs, stays online for maybe ten minutes, then the same thing.
I've tried every cooked ROM too, same deal.
When I do manually sync, it doesnt try to connect to the network, it's already connected. I was wondering if the network settings may need to be tweaked...?
I've already tried adding an exclusive in task manager for activesync.
I'm using a Tilt and on AT&T.
I'm really going to be upset if Im locked to the AT&T rom just because the other ROMS dont handle active sync properly...and I can't beleive that the stock HTC rom has a problem like this...so I'm wondering if the network wizard may not be entering all of the proper settings...
Oh, and as a side note, this is my second Tilt, the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior. AT&T ROM stays connected properly, non-stock ROM disconnects....
Any advise? I dont want to be stuck with AT&T!
I'm wondering if it's you. it works fine for thousands of other people, and for you, 2 phones it's been "broke"
I had my phone disconnectng from active sync. It didnt bother me in the least because I'm not updating my phone but maybe once a day, i really dont care if it disconnects every 15 minutes. After I found out it was my USB hub, it's worked perfectly ever since. And I never once blamed the phone.
Hey now...no need for any snippy tones there...
I was asking for help here, not looking to be blamed as the source....
Exchange 2007 is supposed to remain totally connected 24/7....and it isnt. And Ive been able to recreate the problem on two separate devices....
So just looking to see if anyone else had had the same.....
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Oh, and as a side note, this is my second Tilt, the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior. AT&T ROM stays connected properly, non-stock ROM disconnects....
Any advise? I dont want to be stuck with AT&T!
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You must admit - this statement boggles the mind. You expect AT&T to replace a device because it only works right on their network with the software they shipped on it? Umm, that's their whole EXCUSE for shipping custom ROMs and you're busily proving them right....
It's obviously too late to ask you not to return a hacked device as "defective" and f$ck it all up for the rest of us, but please don't do it again!!!!!!!!!!!!
Your actual question would probably better be phrased as "Anyone on AT&T managing to keep ActiveSync continuously connected to Exchange 2007 with non-AT&T ROM?"
Not at all...I actually had a boat of other problems with my first Tilt..I did not in any way return it because of this problem...
Im not daft...I would never go back to AT&T and ask them to replace something because I monkeyed with it and broke it...
My scroll wheel stopped working along with my GPS....which is why I returned it...after restoring the AT&T ROM back onto it.
So...I will just drop this since it seems as if nobody actually can listen to my problem and offer up solutions,but would rather take potshots at their impressions of my behavior.
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would rather take potshots at their impressions of my behavior.
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No offense, but if you write more clearly you will be misunderstood less.
the first was defective, it it exhibited the exact same behavior doesn't read many other ways than "I returned the last one for this problem".
i gave you a suggestion to start looking at. AT&T and us posters arent out to get you. trust me.
this may sound kind of obvious, but did you check your sync schedule in ActiveSync? Make sure it is set to as items arrive.
I have my activesync working fine with Exchange 2003 on AT&T's network.
Only other thing I can think is if you have KaiserTweak set to disconnnect GPRS automatically after X amount of time.
I have the same problem with mt Tilt. If I use the ATT ROM it works fine but if I move to one of the HTC ROMS I get that problem with Activesync disconnecting from the Exchange server.
I had the same issue on my 8500 with some of the cooked ROMs. On that device the ATT ROM and vp3G's ROMS worked fine (except for one of his; the hybrid I think).
For now I'm just sticking to the ATT ROM and pray vp3G gets a Tilt so he can start making ROMs for our device.
If you don't want all the ATT bloat installed then hard reset and then just hit the soft reset button when it pops up saying it going to customize the device in 3 seconds.
me + kaiser + htc rom + exchange 2007 + at&t network = working just fine
eric b
Psy....
THANK YOU!
At least Im not nutso...
I am using the clear AT&T ROM which actually runs very well...its just the customizer in me that needs to make things better even if they arent broken!
Everybody else...sorry if we got off on the wrong foot with this thread...
Start fresh?
I wanted to throw an update out there....
My desire to figure this out got the best of me, so Ive been pretty much just flashing and experimenting for the last few days, and I think I may have actually figured this out....
It looks like it IS something to do with the network wizard. I pulled out a cingular settings cab from my hermes days. Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
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Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
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Nice work! What I've done to track this kind of thing is to use DotFred's TaskManager and export the *entire* registry before and after, then use a "diff" type utility to compare the two. Some obvious timestamps, etc, always change but it's usually pretty apparent where the change(s) were.
Might be interesting to do that between your working config and the wizard's config and see if there's just one or two settings different....
Richard
lostinvt said:
Flashed on the HTC rom, cancelled the network wizard, install it, and my AS has been connected for hours and hours. Did the same with one of the new cooked ROMs, same thing. So it looks like something just isnt quite right with the network wizard when it puts in the AT&T settings....
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I wonder what all there is in the cab file? I haven't tested it on my Tilt but on the 8525 if I canceled the customization and inputed the network settings myself it didn't stay connected.
Where do I get a copy of this cab file so I can look at it?
I'm attaching the cab for the settings....been working like a champ for over a day now, so Im going to call this issue resolved in my book....
rsoloman,
Sounds like a plan...there definitely has to be something different between the AT&T settings both in the cab and included in the AT&T ROM versus what comes with the network wizard......
Sounds like a scooby doo mystery to me!
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Sounds like a plan...there definitely has to be something different between the AT&T settings both in the cab and included in the AT&T ROM versus what comes with the network wizard......
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Well, personally I'm happy on the AT&T ROM, so it will take someone else running the .reg file extractions. I'll be happy to help analyze the two, but right now it won't be me extracting them
Richard
For the record I'm using a tilt flashed to HTC ROM on at&t without any AS problems running Exchange Push.
I always manually input the at&t settings though.
Mine actually worked fine both the stock AT&T rom and the HTC rom. I just started having this problem with duty's touchflo tilt rom. The cab posted here did not make any change for me. Any other suggestions?
ActiveSync BOOSTER
Is there a way to boost up speed of Sync
Is there a any software or Cab file for it ?
Also want to know after we sync Phone
It keeps repeating to sync, is there a way to stop it ?
With removing the phone
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For some odd reason a few days ago, my ATT Tilt decided it wouldn't operate correctly. The W key verifiably is causing the phone to freeze up requiring the battery to be removed to get the phone to operate again. Once the W key has been pushed, I can get the start menu to open but it takes forever. Nothing else will open within at least 2 minutes time. After waiting 2 minutes I pulled the battery.
The weird thing is that this situation ONLY occurs when I'm typing a text message or email message via the built in messages system. I can use the W key just fine in Internet Explorer.
I haven't done anything to change the phone up recently EXCLUDING a feature change from DataConnect to PDA PERSONAL. But that change is only on the network side, not phone software side.
Unfortunately I cannot call the support hotline at ATT because I'm training at Keesler AFB in preparations for a new deployment and only have my cellphone as a means of phone communications.
Any thoughts on how to rectify the situation would be highly appreciated by this US Serviceman. Thanks!
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For some odd reason a few days ago, my ATT Tilt decided it wouldn't operate correctly. The W key verifiably is causing the phone to freeze up requiring the battery to be removed to get the phone to operate again. Once the W key has been pushed, I can get the start menu to open but it takes forever. Nothing else will open within at least 2 minutes time. After waiting 2 minutes I pulled the battery.
The weird thing is that this situation ONLY occurs when I'm typing a text message or email message via the built in messages system. I can use the W key just fine in Internet Explorer.
I haven't done anything to change the phone up recently EXCLUDING a feature change from DataConnect to PDA PERSONAL. But that change is only on the network side, not phone software side.
Unfortunately I cannot call the support hotline at ATT because I'm training at Keesler AFB in preparations for a new deployment and only have my cellphone as a means of phone communications.
Any thoughts on how to rectify the situation would be highly appreciated by this US Serviceman. Thanks!
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I'm assuming you're still running the stock AT&T rom, and as such the simplest thing for you to do would be to back up your information, and then hard reset the phone by holding in the two soft keys while resetting the phone using the stylus. This will take your phone back to it's original configuration. Then you can restore your backup information.
I'll try that. Hopefully I can get a backup done over the weekend and do a hard reset. Can't really do it during duty days as I work 14 hours a day in preparation for fun land overseas.
In the mean time, would it be safe to flash the ATT TILT with HTC's latest hardware ROM for the Kaiser? I'd love to have a try with Windows Mobile 6.1 amongst some other reasons such as better RADIO software built-in. If it's safe, know where to get it? I read that I couldn't download it since I have an ATT TILT and am not registered with HTC.
If that isn't possible, any recommendations on a WinMobile 6.1 ROM that's out there with a great RADIO setup, easy to use and acceptable for ATT Tilts?
Thanks!
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I'll try that. Hopefully I can get a backup done over the weekend and do a hard reset. Can't really do it during duty days as I work 14 hours a day in preparation for fun land overseas.
In the mean time, would it be safe to flash the ATT TILT with HTC's latest hardware ROM for the Kaiser? I'd love to have a try with Windows Mobile 6.1 amongst some other reasons such as better RADIO software built-in. If it's safe, know where to get it? I read that I couldn't download it since I have an ATT TILT and am not registered with HTC.
If that isn't possible, any recommendations on a WinMobile 6.1 ROM that's out there with a great RADIO setup, easy to use and acceptable for ATT Tilts?
Thanks!
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Rumor has it that the AT&T WM6.1 Rom will be released on the 26th of August. You will need to HardSPL your device before flashing a non-AT&T rom. There are guides to flashing in the kaiser wiki which will step you through anything you need to know about flashing before you do it. If you have trouble finding it, just search "kaiser wiki" and that'll bring it up.
I've had my Tilt running pretty smoothly on the stock firmware since I bought it over the summer (camera stopped working, but that's a different story). Anyway, I did a backup this morning (SPB Backup), and after the reboot I couldn't get a voice signal. If I pushed the phone button, nothing would happen! Now here's the weird thing: I'm able to get a data connection (was able to get new email), but the phone icon still says no service. Has anybody experienced this before, or know of any fixes? I've soft-booted a few times, but didn't want to hard boot if there was a simpler way.
And yes I did search this entire forum for similar posts, but didn't find any.
Thanks in advance!
have you tried a different SIM from a different operator?
you might want to try a different SIM from a different operator just to be sure your SIM and/or operator is not the problem.
if it works with another SIM, you can be fairly certain that it is NOT a hardware issue...in which case, a hard reset will more than likely resolve your problem.
also, are you able to receive incoming calls? what kind of a message does the caller get in case your phone doesn't even wake up and ring? finally, have you tested sms text messaging? try sending a message to someone and also try to receive an sms text message from someone...these little steps will help you confirm whether or not you are experiencing a hardware issue...in which case you might want to consider having it checked/fixed under warranty.
keep searching...cheers !!!
Happened to me once. I tried everything, but didn't work. If it's under warranty, AT&T will replace it. I went through 3 units in the 11 months I owned tilt.
hmmm have you tried flashing another Radio? (don't know what happened to your camera, but if you've got cam & phone issues, it's worth checking the Radio...
It's happened to me twicw also. This is an SPB Backup quirk. I'm afraid a hard reset is all that's left to do.
Well,
first of check if you're connecting to the correct network AT&T and not accidently logged on to the T-Mobile network - perform a manual network search / selection on your device.
If the above step does not help, try to restore your device with the SPB Backup you made. If that also does not work, well, then ... yeah ... hard reset! I would not really consider a RADIO FLASH on your device since it semmed to be working fine for you before that?
Thanks for everyone's suggestions. I tried doing a full restore of the latest backup (that morning), and that seemed to bring back the phone functionality. However, the restore also eliminated a few of my main programs, which was very weird! So, I did a full restore from the previous backup and tested that one out. Everything was like it should be. Then I did a restore of the latest backup's tasks/appointments (only things that changed), and now I'm back to full operation
As a side question, since I'm running WM 6.0 and want to flash to 6.1, would I be able to do a full restore from SPB Backup... or would that be incompatible with the upgraded OS?
You won't be able to perform a FULL RESTORE. There are a couple of changes in WM6.1, so, just to be on the save side I would suggest that you back up your PIM data, then flash to 6.1, restore your PIM data and reinstall all of your application.
BTW:
I was running WM6.1 on my MWg Zinc II and couldn't find any real advantages other than THREADED SMS. The Pocket IE gets a whole bunch of new bugs (for example Frames in websites are not shown or not shown correctly) and experienced a couple of incompatibilities with 3rd-party software application. If you still want to take a chance, good luck! However, I do not believe that you can go back to WM6.0 once you flash to 6.1!
I wouldn't upgrade to 6.1 if you're running SPB software. I was running 6.1 without problems, then loaded SPB Phone Suite, Diary, and Pocket Plus, and suddenly Garmin XT couldn't locate satellites at all. It took several hard and soft resets, and a visit to the SPB forums to realize that 6.1 could be the culprit, and it was. All problems disappeared with 6.0. There was a post at the SPB forums that *seemed* to indicate that SPB apps hadn't been fully tested--they may have used the word "certified"--with 6.1. Good luck.
No, that's not it -- I'm running the latest versions of all of those SPB titles on a stock 6.1 with no problems.
i have no spb apps on this one and i have the problem...it just can't fix the network
it happened few days ago to a guy that isn't quite familiar with ppcs he somehow turned it off and when he turned it on he couldn't get the network...eventually he hooked up after half a day (i'm not sure for how long did this problem last because i don't know does he use soft reset and flight mode)...so i took the kaiser to test it and to see what happened..i messed with flight mode and SR it couldn't find the net at all
tried wm6 and two wm6 radios
tried wm6.1 and two wm6.1 radios
i'll try android...just to test the module itself..if there are any hardware issues
hi all i have a attt tilt with my own custom rom based in the original htc kaiser spanish rom and the radio 1.71.09 o what ever how it is... i never used this device as phone until one month ago (i change my phone and operator), well when i was using the device as pocket pc never show a problem, but when i install the sim from my new operator Claro Chile, the problem starts, the device some times stuck, its sticky, almost all time it related to the phone part, i mean phone contacts, gprs-edge-3g-h, phone dialer, write text messages (its painfull keyboard eat 50% of the letters)... i can say that happen 95% with the phone things...
any ideas? maybe my brand new sim its not working fine? i set the network to manual, picked ClaroCHL (here are 3 ones, Claro, Movistar, Entel) and even disable otherones that appear in the chip like Claro Brazil, Claro Argentina (i suppose that are for roaming)....
Regards!
I'm not sure what's wrong because I don't know how bad the delays are. On my phone, I had delays too. It seems doubtful that the delays you experience are related to a SIM card: they rather seem to be caused by the standard phone software's being slow in itself.
- Delays in simply calling and finding contacts in your lists might be solved by installing a different program to handle this. Resco Contact Manager, for example, is very fast on my phone. The standard HTC phone program sucks, the one that came with PDACorner's ROM was quite slow as well on my phone.
- The keyboard's eating letters depends on the repeat rate and first repeat values in your phone's registry. They can be altered by going to settings, buttons, up-down buttons (I think that's where it was; I remember it was a funny location). There are many threads on this; find them through Google. They have advice on proper values.
- Sometimes my phone takes a very long time (and I mean 30sec+) to open text messages or e-mail; I haven't been able to fix this. It is weird, as it opens them instantly at other times.
hi there!, my kaiser dosnt have delays, got coma states xDDDD, its dosnt respond the screen and the imput for like 2 minutes, its seems to be related to the Claro signal, i am using GSM to disable 3G/H for the battery life and maybe sometimes the radio cant find a good setup for that and start sucking... i gonna do some tweaks on my rom (or remove some of my tweaks), and start using the phone with 3G, about the keyboard i got working perfect, just when i wrote sms its faild due sms its a program that use the cell phone part, regards!
Ah okay, those freezes sound really weird, I have never experienced anything like that on my phone, but I am far from an expert. I have used different ROMs, and my phone sometimes can't find signals, keeps searching for a long time et cetera - but it never stops responding. Good luck with that... by the way, it seems a waste of your phone's capabilities to not use 3G! I'd rather buy a 1600 mAh than not use 3G. Or even carry a spare battery with me.
Hi there,
Sorry if this a retarded question, I can't find anyone else that's asked.
Basically my unbranded Touch Pro 2 has in the data connection settings the default selections of UK and then TMobile.
What i need to know is, on these cooked ROMs will that setting still be there? If not where do i get the settings to reenable my data.
I'm going to do the HardSPL and flash thing tonight for first time. I'm a little aprehensiveso just wanna make sure I don't install some flashy ROM but lose my 3G browsing.
Thanks to whoever can set my mind at rest.
I have an unbranded tp2 on tmobile uk from expansys, connection settings with custom roms bring up tmobile uk. It did when i was flashing Kaiser roms.
Having trouble at the mo with mms on the current rom I've flashed but gonna do a bit of searching tonight to sort that.
(need to update my sig from kaiser to tp2)
cool, good to know someone else with sam setup. mine is from mobilephonesdirect.
I don't send a lot of mms, but what is the known issue?
Also were there any complications for you or a smooth install and Hardspl flash?
cheers
I think maybe we should take this to pm to keep the forum uncluttered? check your inbox.
@dazkeirle
My unbranded TP2's on T-Mobile and from MobilePhonesDirect too!
OK I was all up for flashing last night (HardSPL) but lost my bottle when i came to something which was not mentioned.
When i first started tot run the program, with my phone in an activsync connection everything was normal.
Then when i click Automatic flash, then ok on the next screen (before the screen with the picture of the TP2 on it) my TP2 goes into a kind of dead mode, black screen no lights.
Now i think this is normal from what I've read, but the weird thing is my computer indicates here that the USB is dropped and activsync disconnects, however some other drivers are then installed and the phone is sort of still connected (although that isnt indicated anywhere).
I was nervous as activsync was not there so hit cancel, did a soft reset on phone and all was still normal (preflashed state).
Please can somebody confirm that activsync only is there at the start and that the activsync will disconnect after you hit ok, it's not explicitly defined in the tutorial and I'm nervous of bricking handset.
Thanks
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moved to newbie thread as bound to get better response there.