Diamond vs Diamond Victor(P3702) - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hey all, im just curious to know whats the difference between the two diamonds.
Thanks =)

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peeweegary said:
Hey all, im just curious to know whats the difference between the two diamonds.
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Change only the design and cover behind is no longer as multi-faceted diamond, which left some perplexed users. The Victor has more rounded lines, qualitatively are the same as technical details, but unfortunately I think Victor (second Rumors in various forums) were born and marketed only for the Asian market.
On the latter claim that stress is only what I read around on the network, I do not have other sources to confirm this.

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AT&t tilt is all I thought and more

You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
ok grandma
How much did U pay for that tilt? And what do U like most about it? Did U have a Hermes before it?
hermes
Ive had the 2125, 3125, 8125, 8525 actually I was choosen because of my data knowledge and it is for company official use and I am probably going to buy one as well. and thanks for the grandma post I just figured I would let everyone know to be prepared.
tilt
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
buffalosolja42 said:
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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**Cough** Dual processor...?????
dual
yes it all
heres a nice little pdf with info on the processor for those interested. http://www.cdmatech.com/download_library/pdf/msm7200_chipset.pdf
buffalosolja42 said:
And it was a promotional gift and actually, the thing I like about it is the performance of the dual processor which makes the multitasking amazing. The other thing is the gps is awesome it is something that will make your head spin. Camera quality is also nice and with 3g its a beast and with the network enhancement coming soon it will be a phone to contend with.
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Network enhancment ?? are you referring to faste HSPDA?
What could be so nice about an integrated GPS chip that will make our heads "spin" ?
In my opinion integrated GPS, means I don't have to carry an extra gadget
with me... that's it.
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
buffalosolja42 said:
You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
RacerX10 said:
kind of a stretch to call it a "dual core" processor
i think it would be more accurate to say it's got one processor for the windows mobile side, and one processor for the radio side
DLD
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Yeah. It would be best to describe it as a "radio coprocessor".
It will probably result in zero improvement if not transferring data, very little if you're on an EDGE network. Probably the only situation one would notice any significant difference would be HSDPA.
No i noticed better performance all around from the radio after getting my Kaiser it makes the web load faster and emails send quicker! this should have been done in the hermes! I wuld say web pages load twice as fast! It almost feels like HSUPA has already been rolled out here in NYC with how fast this thing uploadeds.
McHale said:
Wow... that was insightful. I don't mean to be a jerk, but you realize that the Tilt is a crippled version of the Kaiser (4550) and they've been out for a while. Unless you have something to offer like an official release date or what it has that the Kaiser doesn't, this thread may as well be closed. We *ALL* already know what the Kaiser is and what the Tilt lacks.
-Mc
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That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
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dwella said:
That is why he originally posted this in the Hermes Forum thinking no one would move it to the kaiser section. Whoops time to post it in the Nokia section maybe you can impress someone there.....
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Geez, maybe we should have a public flogging for this guy LOL. "The thread is titled "at&t tilt is all I thought and more" considering hes the first to get one that I have heard of I am glad to hear some things confirmed such as gps. I for one appreciate his posting some feedback on a device we with at&t are waiting for. Im simply saying give the guy a break and let him enjoy his new phone.
Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
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released roms
Roms in any company are not released to all in the company until tech support runs them on a trial basis. If you purchase your on device you can change the roms as you see fit, otherwise the one the company gives you is for company use. Read the part.. I just thought I would tell everyone that it is coming out because I like this site. You guys are treating me like I am misinforming you due to any company policy it is not in anybody's interest to release other details. I have a family to take care of telling all about it could jepardize my job. If I knew that I would get this response I would have never posted. Well I hope whenever you get one to all those complaining that you enjoy it and as far as the dual processor goes that is the way it was positioned to us. And for your knowledge point of view I have a bs in CIS/Math if I had time I would right my own roms, hacks, etc. But when you have kids other things come to mind. And as I said I use this sight for a reference I don't have THE TIME to right and test my own roms. Thanks for making a new guy feel welcome though. (Sorry about the spelling wasn't happy with reads on the post) But when it comes down to it I still have a tilt
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Your probably right Sw but if you look at some of his other posts he claims to be an Att mgr but he bought an 8525 and than bought a Rom off ebay than asked how to include Ptt in the Rom so he could tell the office the next day. So maybe thats the way AT&T works but I kind of doubt it. So there lies my skeptisism.
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roms arent available to everyone in the company... well they are, but you have to be smart enough to know where to find them... chances are that 99% of att wireless employees dont know where to find the pre-public roms.. they arent beta, but their not public either.. and even being a manager doesnt mean you get your phones for free, hell employees deals arent all that great..
buffalosolja42 said:
You guys will have the chance very soon to purchase this great devive and you will absolutely love it.
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Thank you, but can you tell us(or me) if the GPS is locked to using only a specific software or can it be used by any navigation software i.e. Tom Tom?

is this the forum for At&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)?

Hi all,
Sorry for the noob question. I just got my AT&T Tilt and I just want to make sure that I am in the right forum. Is this the forum for AT&T Tilt (AT&T 8925)? I've search around, it's either this forum or the Hermes forum. I appreciate anyone points me at the right direction.
Thanks a bunch!
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The 8925 is a Kaiser so you're in the correct forum.
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
Thanks....
ceelo2007 & jon_k,
Thank you....awesome!
They should update the names that we call some of these devices so new people can see. Like instead of just 8525 it could be "At&t/Cingular 8525". You know?
heh...
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
slippy42 said:
I spent quite a bit of time figuring out if this was the right area at first too. They really need to add Tilt to the models next to Kaiser....
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The naming conventions for the forums seem to be by HTC development codenames.
XDA-devs deals with many different models of HTC devices which have been re-branded by many different providers and depends on the source and region of your particular device and service.
So this site tends to use the pre-release codenames to refer to all devices of the same general hardware family. Hence the Tilt can be called a TytnII or a Kaiser or a Vario III, 8925...etc... with only minor diffs in hardware/software.
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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its all in the flippin wiki
~~Tito~~ said:
Why can't they have all the names known for the device so there would be less confusion? (Start with the new ones and go down from their)
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To avoid posts from people who are incapable of identifying what device they have. As well as "their" from "there". lol
Ahh, you caught me. . ., also there already is .
*I* know there is a wiki but do others?
Maybe they know but there not sure if it's over they're -------> or over their <------.
My opinion is that these forums are pretty technical, and if you can't properly identify your model, you probably don't belong here. I know from my expertise in Motorola modding that I have been PM'ed countless times by 12 year old kids that decided they were going to mod, hex edit, or flash their phone, bricked it, and then PM'ed me for a magical fix before their parents found out.
-Jay
Kaiser Tilt diffference
jon_k said:
The AT&T Tilt is just a re-brand of the HTC Kaiser phone. AT&T just names it the Tilt because it's hip and cool and something they can put a (TM) next to on packaging.
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Other than the name differential, I believe the Euro Kaiser has a camera on the front as well as the back for "video call". The tilt has the regular one in the back.
looking for help
hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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hello i new and i have a unlocked tilt and would like help pimping out my phone to the max could you please help me install any and all updates to make this run faster and add new features to it like the new today pages and new key boards and skins all that cool stuff and screensavers.please help...thank you...im not good at this so i would need extra help...lol....
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Search, and when you need help then post a thread. . .

Is it worth it?

I'm not sure whether I'm posting this in the right topic, but I was wondering if it was worth switching from a two-years-old Universal to a brand new Kaiser?
I mean, how long does it look until someone can come up with a proper video driver?
Will the apps that run on a Universal run on a Kaiser too?
What about speed? Screen size? The hardware in general?
How "upgradeable" is it?
I'd like to find out the things they don't give you in reviews, from people who have actually used the device, not just took a fleeting look at it.
Thanks for your help in advance!
There are many many many many other threads about this same exact thing. Seek them out, read them and then then reply/post to those threads, please.
mzalan said:
I'm not sure whether I'm posting this in the right topic, but I was wondering if it was worth switching from a two-years-old Universal to a brand new Kaiser?
I mean, how long does it look until someone can come up with a proper video driver?
Will the apps that run on a Universal run on a Kaiser too?
What about speed? Screen size? The hardware in general?
How "upgradeable" is it?
I'd like to find out the things they don't give you in reviews, from people who have actually used the device, not just took a fleeting look at it.
Thanks for your help in advance!
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The question is very subjective. In the most extreme case, if you're trying to decide to put food on your table or upgrade to a Kaiser from your Universal, I'd definitely say that it's not worth it
It's also a very opinionated question. Some fan boys will say yes w/o even knowing about the Universal. I like to steer clear of opinions and offer you raw facts. Take a look at this site for the tech comparison and you can be the judge.
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The question is very subjective. In the most extreme case, if you're trying to decide to put food on your table or upgrade to a Kaiser from your Universal, I'd definitely say that it's not worth it
It's also a very opinionated question. Some fan boys will say yes w/o even knowing about the Universal. I like to steer clear of opinions and offer you raw facts. Take a look at this site for the tech comparison and you can be the judge.
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Sweet, just what I was looking for, it would seem! Thanks a bundle!

ALL AT&T Tilt Owners Have Been Left Behind

The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Old news ! Not nice to start a " new " thread for something we had not expected anyway.
Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
Do you realize what board you're on? Don't generalize, you have been left behind, not me. I've been running WM6.1 on my Tilt since the winter when it first leaked and have been running the lasted build since Monday.
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Yeah, I know its old news. But even so, a large amount of people do not know this, so its still worth posting.
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Everyone here knows this and it is not worth posting as you will find out.
No, I have browsed through some threads and it seemed that a decent amount of people had not realized that only the HTC-Branded devices had recieved the update.
People who read stuff already knew for like a month that the update would probably be only for HTC branded devices, I guess you don't.
Anyways, it doesn't mean there won't be official updates for you, just that your company, whichever it is, will have to customize things first before releasing a rom, especially adding all their bloatware.
Oh, and about accelerated graphics, please, noone got them, it's not that you're a special target.
I know that there were some "fixes" but no drivers, and it has been said that ATT users will get it, just when they get ready to release it after adding all their crap.
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
/rant
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I am here to help , what was the question ? I just heard a rant that the mods have said ( continually ) is not appropriate for these forums. If you read the official announcement from HTC when they announced the TYtN upgrade, they said that they had no plans to release an upgrade fer the Tilt in the near future. Why is this rant important to this forum?
What are you talking about denco? This is not even a rant, it is a statement. I did not mean for it to be a rant and I did not mean for people to mistake it as one. I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update. It appeared as though alot of people had not realized this, or, at least enough for me to post. I can even show you some quotes if you need me too.
Denco, please look up the definition of 'rant'.
htc rom
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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... I merely meant to inform people that only the branded HTC devices got the update...
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I am not trying to entice the argument here, but i will add couple of things:
a) Most of the "regular" members here at xda already know that the tilt or any other branded version of the tytnII will not be getting the updates. (emphasis on regular).
b) none of the xda members really care about official updates as we have very gifted and talented chefs here that can port roms for us (and we are truly greatful for that) and seeing that the only diffrence between the TytnII and tilt is the front camera that shouldn't be a big deal.
c) drivers (which there aren't none) can also be ported. There are chefs already working on porting the diamond drivers over to tilt which runs vga.
Having said that i would like to thank you for the info ... but unfortunately its old news and no one likes repeatedly hearing old news.
bubbleking2 said:
The AT&T Tilt did not recievve a ROM update today. This means no accelerated graphics for us and no WM 6.1. Thank you HTC and AT&T you have all been a big help.
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Did you try hitting the download link at the bottom of this link -
http://www.htc.com/us/FAQ_Detail.aspx?p_id=67&act=sd
? (Posted by jdmba)
Welcome to the ROM update for the AT&T Tilt. Please review the following prior to downloading and installing the latest ROM update (version 1.62.502.0) on your device.
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I very nearly downloaded this one by mistake. I registered with htc but my phone S/N is not a real HTC device and was still logged in, but I managed to (mistakenly) download the file from that link without much issue.
That help?
That's still only 6.0..
ZOMGWTFBBQ!!!!!1111one
Those bastards! Oh wait. I'm not worse off than I was before. Even If I didn't have XDA to feed my obsession for ROM flashing.
DarkDvr said:
Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
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um what is there to help with? It doesn't seem like the OP had a question or required help in any way. He came on and made an ignorant statement.
leon sprouse said:
Just talked to HTC. There is no 6.1 rom from them for the HTC phones (mine is the TYTN II) available anywhere on the globe.
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I don't know who you spoke with but they were wrong; I just ran the HTC RUU (Rom Upgrade Utility) from the HTC e-club web site and the splash screen clearly states Windows Mobile 6.1. I have an HTC TYTN II and it works great.
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Christ people, u're becoming like NASIOC... a lil less flame, a lil more helpfullhess.
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LOL, nice call on NASIOC...as well as EvoM
The thing that puzzles me about this is the way the AT&T Tilt gets singled out as if it's special - in reality it's just one dozens of rebranded Kaisers around the globe, none of which have had an official update. I have a "Vodafone V1615", am I whining about where to download a Vodafone update for my Vodafone V1615? No, of course not, with the help of this forum it's been running the original HTC rom since October, and upgraded to the HTC 6.1 update a couple of days ago (before it was released by HTC in fact). So what's the problem?
The irony is the AT&T Tilt is (I believe) the only variant to have it's own section of the HTC website, and to actually have already had a rom upgrade back in February, albeit 6.0 only. Where are all the complaints about that from owners of the V1615, or the T-Mobile Vario 3, or the Orange Tytn II, or O2 XDA Stellar, or the "3" Tytn II, etc etc..?

Please anyone with any info on the US version of the S730??????

I have been looking and waiting for months and months, searched a lot so I apologize if I missed it somewhere.......
Is this going to be officially released in a US version
this is/was pretty much exactly what I was looking for......but don't know if it is ever going to happen.
Thanks.
It is supposed to be coming, although I have not checked in a while as I am wanting the Touch Pro now O_O
Anywho its called the HTC Wings 200, quickly looking for some links for you shows not much of an update, I thought it was due out later this year but I am not positive, there is some info on it here. Specs look exactly the same except theres two more UMTS bands for somewhat better US support.
There's another few sites online that have that same spec sheet but not a lot of info. There's a few threads floating around this site discussing some information on it but they have not been updated in a while.
10332007 said:
It is supposed to be coming, although I have not checked in a while as I am wanting the Touch Pro now O_O
Anywho its called the HTC Wings 200, quickly looking for some links for you shows not much of an update, I thought it was due out later this year but I am not positive, there is some info on it here. Specs look exactly the same except theres two more UMTS bands for somewhat better US support.
There's another few sites online that have that same spec sheet but not a lot of info. There's a few threads floating around this site discussing some information on it but they have not been updated in a while.
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Interesting stuff. Looks great in the specs, relese date Feb. 2008 is what I've seen elsewhere also. I guess we need more info on when/if this may happen for real.
The touch pro is a Pocket PC right, I'm liking the smartphone idea a little bit. I'm running a Tilt now tricked out and it's pretty good, but this S730/Wings 200 has had my eye for a long time, simplicity and everything in one.
The tilt suffers from the Pocket PC os issues as all other Windows Mobile touch screen devices.
Thanks for the reply, I hope someone knows or can point us to a bit more.
I guess this is just a dead issue. Bummer, I was really looking forward to this phone.
It's a shame, the smartphone in this form by HTC would be very cool.
At this point I wouldnt hold out much hope for it, although the s740 could make it over...

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