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FINALLY ... an SMS threading program that works PERFECTLY!!

Description: Were you a Treo 650 user? Miss the old threaded "Chat Style" of the text messages? Well, you don't have to be sad any longer! With the SMS Threader application, you can now send and receive your text messages just like you used to! The program will even automatically open even if it's not running! All threads are automatically backed up as HTML files, for easy viewing on any machine!
PS - If the program does not function correctly after installation, your device may need a soft reset.

Thanks, i'will give it a try.

looks good, fonts is a bit small on the message text and can't see a way of making it larger
I have had a couple of crashes when trying to select the message thread with my stylus (which did not open it) and by then using the action button.
I have been after this app for ages so thanks for the post
Paul

great to see SMSs like IMs, its the application I never knew I needed.
Only prob is the character counter doesn't seem to count the characters, staying at "0/160" even when a message is typed.
Also, annoyingly when in a convo the "X"/"OK" button is not present, forcing you to click Options >> Close to exit the convo. Though there seems to be options to "close after response" etc so this might not be so annoying

PocketCM also does a similar thing and in my opinion has a great interface. A must have application IMHO (http://www.pocketcm.com/)

True, the way this is done in Pocketcm is really good. I used it for a while but the rest of the program isn't what i expected from a good contact manager.

I have been using shogunmark_wm6_threaded and it has been perfect so far.

How do these compare to IMSMS, which I find works very nicely -

@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working

After a nights use of the OP app I found it to be a little annoying, for the following reasons:
1. Constant notification alerts in the top bar, even when I have read the thread. This means your constantly "dismissing" an alert, just to see if the thread has been updated with a new SMS
2. The alerts didn't popup over my full screen app (TomTom) which was annoying as I had to minimise TomTom just to check if I had a SMS or not. Default notifications popup over full screen apps AFAIK.
3. All new message go into the thread, but not into the Default Messaging list, so attempts to bypass it are impossible.
Think I will try some of the other threaded SMS apps listed here.

Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!

Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx

I cant find "CMContacts" anywhere
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
eddythepeddy said:
Am I the only one only looking for a little program that automatically threads all my EXISTING SMS's?? Everybody talks about these SMS Threaders that only thread SMS's sent within that program.
CMContacts is better; it looks at my existing SMS database but I do not need another contacts app (FingerFriendlyFriends is THE BEST contact manager for my purposes...) on my Kaiser!
The best solution would be a sort of a threader-plugin on the existing messaging-application, but as far as I know that does not exist...
Just my 2cts!
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raymondu999 said:
Does it transfer the sms's already in your inbox to the threaded program? Or does it not? Does it replace your inbox as the Palm Messaging app, or does it only add a new app? Thx
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the version i downloaded automatically sets your defeault SMS to the palm one, and it replaces my old inbox with the new palm one. Basically i installed it and it became my default SMS application automatically. Only downside to palm threaded app is that you cant use on-screen key boards very effectively, they all cover up the txt input box in a convo. message. Except when you write a new message.
and to Eddythepeddy: i believe it will thread all of your existing SMS...hmm could be wrong about this tho, for me it only threaded my sent messages

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Yeah, challenge with shogun's was to get MMS working...how did you do this?

www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around

hayaticik said:
www.pocketcm.com
the best one all around
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PocketCM will also thread your pre-existing SMS.

g101 said:
Do you have a link to this "CMContacts" software?
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Sorry, I meant PocketCM (if I remember correctly it was called CMcontacts in the file-system when installed).... But as you can see, some other guys are liking this little free app as well!
Edward

gladwin said:
@argoldst
palm threaded app working perfectly on kaiser? did u manage to make mms feature to work? which rom are you using? would be great to get this all working
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Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.

argoldst said:
Sorry for the delayed reply. Yes, everything works perfectly including mms.
The only negative to it is that the txt will not thread until you reply. For examlpe, if you get in 4 sms from Jane but never replied, it will show up as 4 different sms. Once you reply, they will all fall into a single chat (threaded sms) and will stay like that. You ONLY have to reply once to get all future (and past) sms's to thread.
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anything special you did to get mms to work correctly? I (and most people here) get a memory error when trying to send mms.
You can get all sms to thread regardless under options. There should be a setting to thread all messages.

Palm Threaded App!!! Good News

I first purchased my tilt on nov. 28 and on jan. 11 it would not sync to my pc. To make a long story short ATT sent me a new Tilt. When I recieved the new phone I simply installed wm6 threadded app for higher aku version phones. No messing with hidded files, just a simple .cab install and it works fine. Hooray

did get the mms part of the palm app to work? i've been using this palm threaded app since i got my kaiser last october, and sms threading works fine, easy cab install. just that mms gets an out of memory error.

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I first purchased my tilt on nov. 28 and on jan. 11 it would not sync to my pc. To make a long story short ATT sent me a new Tilt. When I recieved the new phone I simply installed wm6 threadded app for higher aku version phones. No messing with hidded files, just a simple .cab install and it works fine. Hooray
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Hi:
Like the second poster, I'd like to know if MMS is working.
Also, would you please post which cab you used, since there are several floating around?
Thanks so much!

I have MMS plus threaded SMS working on a stock ATT Tilt ROM.

grizzley said:
I have MMS plus threaded SMS working on a stock ATT Tilt ROM.
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Hi:
That's great to hear.
By any chance could you help me get it going on my Tilt?

cincy1020 said:
Hi:
That's great to hear.
By any chance could you help me get it going on my Tilt?
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Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.

grizzley said:
Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.
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Hi Grizzley:
THANKS SO MUCH!
I had read through so many threads on the subject, that I was a bit overwhelmed, and was nervous to try it out.
Your instructions worked perfectly (at least so far, lol).
Thanks again!

I'm glad it worked. I have been using it for about 2 months and from what I can tell, I have had no problems.

this thread is a little misleading, this is a fix that has been covered way back in the begining, and grizzly pointed to the correct post for that. The reason most chef's used a certain arcsoft version in the cooked roms was so that we could have seperated mms and sms accounts in the default messaging section.
SO just to clarify for people, this is to use palm threaded app with Arcsoft MMS. THIS IS NOT to get the mms portion of the threaded app to work...

shogunmark said:
this thread is a little misleading, this is a fix that has been covered way back in the begining, and grizzly pointed to the correct post for that. The reason most chef's used a certain arcsoft version in the cooked roms was so that we could have seperated mms and sms accounts in the default messaging section.
SO just to clarify for people, this is to use palm threaded app with Arcsoft MMS. THIS IS NOT to get the mms portion of the threaded app to work...
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Very good point Shogun. I think, at least for me, all the other threads from a long time ago have so much conflicting information. I just wanted to be able to use threaded SMS, but not lose mms completely. There were so many posts made before this one, and yes I read all of them lol, but it just became overwhelming to figure out which cabs were the most recent, what devices were they tested on etc.
But, thanks to this new thread (and Grizzley's help) I was able to find an easy solution to have both threaded sms and mms working.
Thanks
By the way, I am using your threaded sms cab, THANKS for making it

Hi:
This solution is working very well for me. My only problem is that for some reason text in landscape mode is very small (I usually use large font).
Is there any way to set text in landscape mode to stay the same size as in portrait mode?
Thanks!

Sounds great! Can PPCPimBackup keep track of this program? Or is there any other program that can backup sms as fast and easy as PPCPimBackup?

I have the annoying problem of text messages from the future from a specific friend. Will this screw up my usual messaging? It would see that the phone would be smart enough to know a message from the future if one hour off.
Anyway. I'm drunk and posting. Weeee.
I did the WM6.1 upgrade and finally have (most) of my stuff back to normal.

threaded sms??

is there a cab out there that makes the tytn ii have threaded sms much like the iphone??
TIA

No. Nothing like that exists.
Have you considered searching? There has to be at least 4000 threads with this same kind of question in it. Search and find the god dam software. And if you want an Iphone, get an Iphone. Or AIDS. Either would be fine
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Have you considered not wasting so much space? The question may have been noobish but the 3miles of space in your post was even more annoying..

Actually, You're obviously simple so I will perform the search for you. Using your exact terms.
Oh look, 5 threads on the first page with the answer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359903&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358887&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355634&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328860&highlight=threaded+sms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=348497&highlight=threaded+sms

Try PocketCM at www.pocketcm.com
Really great SMS replacement and Contacts Manager replacment.

Threaded SMS
I discovered a very reliable threaded SMS client for Pocket PC Phone. It handles both square and rectangular displays. It has some good configuration options for the display and has an excellent popup notification functionality too.
http://www.pocket-sms.com
Downsides are that it only runs on WM 5.0 or better and the license needs to be activated.
Otherwise, a nice simple http://www.pocket-sms.com
Downsides are that it only runs on WM 5.0 or better and the license needs to be activated.
Otherwise, a nice simple application which is not so hot on graphics and presentation but has good functionality/setup opions.

drdingo21 said:
No. Nothing like that exists.
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Pocket CM with plenty of iPhone skins, and CM Keyboard or I forgot the name, have a keyboard that looks exactly like the iPhone.
And if you want, theres a software which cost money cost extreme text. I just use the Palm SMS Threaded, it works great for me.
Buddy, just do searches, there everywhere.

Does the Palm threaded SMS still break MMS support?

drdingo21 said:
No. Nothing like that exists.
Have you considered searching? There has to be at least 4000 threads with this same kind of question in it. Search and find the god dam software. And if you want an Iphone, get an Iphone. Or AIDS. Either would be fine
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Bit strong mate, control yourself!

Girvo said:
Does the Palm threaded SMS still break MMS support?
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Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.

ronfin44 said:
Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.
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Arcsoft MMS4.2.8.1 FTW

ronfin44 said:
Yes, atleast for me and I can't send ANY MMS without getting an OUT OF MEMORY error. Anyone know how to fix this? Back on my old 8525 I never had a problem. I don't care about losing the MMS selection. I just wanna be able to SEND MMS and still have the threaded SMS on my Tilt.
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Hi:
I now have Palm threaded sms, and mms working perfectly too.
The instructions I followed are as follow:
Get this:
http://rapidshare.com/files/61245824/MMSsetup.zip
Then do this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1569374&postcount=16
Your MMS will be with your email accounts. Be sure to choose "Cingular" as the default for the MMS once you get it setup. To do that, just go to MMS > Options > Servers > and choose ATT MMS.[/QUOTE]
I am using this on AT&T Tilt, I am not sure if it will work on other devices, I believe the proxy cab is only for AT&T devices. You can probably find more info on it if you read through the original post ^^.
Anyway, I hope this helps.

just wait for WM 6.1, includes threaded sms support......i believe it has already leaked and dutty is on his way to releasing a rom for it soon. (a beta is already avail for download)

dismiss email notification with opening inbox

When you view emails in manilla (the header in the envelope) the email count does not change, you have to open them in the inbox before they are marked as read, which i suppose is the correct way it should work.
But would it be possible to have the email count change just afer viewing them in manilla?
I get many emails (junk and other nonsense) that i can happy flick through in manilla and know i do not need to read them.
At the moment i have to open and every mail even if i have no interest in its contents?

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I just delete them straight away from manilla if they are junk

sdc77 said:
I just delete them straight away from manilla if they are junk
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That is great, especially because there is no option in Manila to delete them without opening it or the inbox.
How do you do that?

I dont think this is possible. The touchflo 3D display of email is only really meant to serve as a quick preview. You know.. you get a mail and want to see if its that important one you have been waiting for, so you can get the gist of it via touchflo 3D rather than thrawling through your entire inbox.

darthbane2k said:
I dont think this is possible. The touchflo 3D display of email is only really meant to serve as a quick preview. You know.. you get a mail and want to see if its that important one you have been waiting for, so you can get the gist of it via touchflo 3D rather than thrawling through your entire inbox.
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i think your right, Its a shame they could not have made manilla email more interactive like the SMS viewer

rumpleforeskin said:
i think your right, Its a shame they could not have made manilla email more interactive like the SMS viewer
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Yes I agree. Seems like they forgot to add the option to Delete or Marked as Read in the e-mail menu of Manilla. This is really and I MEAN REALLY annoying because I too can see if it's junk or if it's something i need to look at later through Manilla. I don't need the "unread msg count" consistently there in Manilla if I already looked at it in Manilla.
Please can someone fix this without having to burn a different ROM???
Thanks to all.

HTC Messaging Client Integration to Manila 2.1 Brainstorming

I figured its time for me to post a thread on how to integrate the messaging client into the Manila 2.1. My hope is that cooks with more experience and knowledge than I can help with some brainstorming ideas.
Here is where i'm at. I did some research and testing on the device and its apparent that messaging client ties into the windows default messaging client. For example in TF3D when you click all messages it would take to the messaging client which is great and what we want it to do. The problem is when you are in that screen and click on a message it takes you back to the manila 2.1 message overlay which won't send a message at all with the client installed.
What i've done so far is i found a manila 2.0 file that allows you to access the default windows messaging client from the messaging tab and with the HTC messaging client installed it accesses it instead, which is also great. But again I hit the same issue where it when you click all messages and click on a message it takes u right back to the manila 2.1 messaging overlay.
I think the mode9 file needs to be modified and i'm currently messing around in there to see if i can find anything worth wild. Does anyone else have any other ideas? Let me know if this wasn't clear at all as well.

No one has any ideas???? I can't be the only person who wants this

I think this is a great idea. If this can be completed it would be a great triumph for those who are more attached to Manila 2.1 as opposed to 2.5.

I have it half assed working but its not 100% and I can't seem to find the piece to get it to work 100%

bump.. Anyone have any ideas!!!?!?!?!?!?!

I am assuming you will have to mod some 2.1 manila files to make it refer to 2.5 messaging client. I havent looked at it real close, will look at it and see what the dependencies are and stuff...

I'm still trying to make sense of the manila mode9 files and the lua scripts to see if i can do something but nothing seems to be working. I'm actually starting to think i'm going to have to try and modify the exe with a hex editor.

when i including new client messenger from manila 2.5 to 2.1.19.19 i can't send even sms...

Yea thats because you are trying to send it through the manila 2.1 messaging area. If you use the attached file it will then go to the htc messaging client and you will be able to send text messages until you go into the all messages and click on a message.

I honestly can't believe there aren't more posts. Is this something that people just don't want???
Well here is where i'm at. I found the function that is being called when you press all messages. Of course I can't find the declaration of this function. It appears its alling the Shells messaging function. The function i found was ShellLocation_Messaging. I'm going to look deeper to see if i can use this to fix anything. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated

Just a thought! I know there is a can to diable 2.5 messaging! Will that provide some hints on how to make messaging work with 2.1?

I've seen the cab but i think its an actual app inistead of just modifying the manila we already have but it might work. I can give it a shot. To tell you the truth I'm starting to think its the contact utility dll that i have to modify.

@bxsteez i appreciate your work.. i yoinked your fixed tab and love it.... works great on my rom.. i have manilla 2.1 working perfect with the leo messaging enhancemen..
Thanks,
Josh

It only kinda works. Go into all messages and click on a text. It will take u back to the manila 2.1 messaging area and then you can't even send a text message at all. I've tried everything i know to get this thing to work. I think the shell messaging client changes when you use htc messaging client. I'm wondering if i integrate an older version of the client if it will make a diff

Does anyone know how to edit the lua scripts. The only programs i've found just constantly crash. I think i found a way to get this to work i just need to be able to edit the script.

I have HTC Messages 1.1 (build 1919.3512) from LEO (EnergyROM) and all is working fine - receivng, sending, composing, etc., all from within HTC Messaging app. It has some graphics glitch, at times, when in landscape. All rest good, SMS and MMS.
I am sure it will get better with higher release versions.

Is this Manila 2.1? And it all works from the manila messaging tab? When you go to all messages and click on a message it doesn't take to the universal contact application?

Hey there,
im not a cook in anyway but i like ur idea.
So, perhaps a little step on the way:
Is there a way to disable 2.1 Messaging?
So that tabbing on a massage brings me to WiMo threaded sms-screen?
Thanks

Yea there is a file that i posted earlier that will do that. It will only kinda do it though. It turns out that in the messaging.lua script it is calling a function to navigate to the people contacts screen which is where the messaging tab is. I feel like if i delete those if clauses and that function call we will have a solution. The problem i'm having is that the stupid compiler keeps crashing with some stupid nonexistant problem.

Bxsteez said:
Is this Manila 2.1? And it all works from the manila messaging tab? When you go to all messages and click on a message it doesn't take to the universal contact application?
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"Leo" EnergyROM is Manila 2.5. It won't help you I guess.