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Programs in ROM - vs. installing CAB's

I hope this is not too noob'ish a question:
What is the advantage of
1. installing (most of) your programs in a ROM,
vs.
2 having a rather clean/small ROM, and installing (a lot of) CABS afterwards?
I know 1. is a bit easier.
But is there any difference in performance?

I would say that you can't install anything into the ROM
That's why they use the ROM to fill it with the "cookers" special needs

The Advantage of Rom Installed Software:
You don't have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it saves you some time.
The Disadvantages of Rom Installed Software:
Uses Rom Memory for the original copy of files and Storage memory for anything that must be moved as part of initial setup. So anything that can't simply stay in Windows folder is duplicated elsewhere. For example if you prefer to have your programs in folders under the Program Files Folder then a program that uses 1mb will use 1mb of Rom memory and then when it is copied (remember you can't really delete Rom Files) it will use 1mb of Storage Memory also for a total of 2mb of used memory.
Can't uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
More files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it slows opening the windows folder and I believe that it does cause a general slowdown in the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Advantages of Manually Installed Software:
Saves Rom Memory which increases Storage Memory. Basically since you have everything in Storage Memory you aren't paying extra for anything as nothing took any Rom Memory.
Can uninstall original version when an upgraded version is avaliable. Yes, since everything was installed into Storage Memory you can actually deleted the files to upgrade thus saving Memory.
Fewer files in your Windows Folder. While the affect this has on our devices isn't 100% clear we do know that it speeds-up opening the windows folder and I believe that it does affect the device's overall functioning. This is why I prefer to have programs installed to their own folders.
The Disadvantage of Manually Installed Software:
You have to manually install it after a Hard Reset of Flash. Enough said on that, it costs you some time. UC Compliant Roms can overcome this.

Well, as some cooks report: there seems to be an extra advantage of installing into ROM: everything seems to work a little smoother and faster. Don't know how or why exactly but has to do something with the after-installing process which makes the device less stabile.
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
Kyphur: I believe the second red and green titles are wrong? (I believe yoe mean Cab Installed Software?)

One of the reason that loading windows up with files slows everything down is because the are all paged & cached, depending on the settings. Once the device catches up, it's not as noticable.
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.

GSLEON3 said:
Storage card Files cannot be paged like the cooked in files. That's why some programs will add .exe & .dll resources to \windows even though themajority of the files are indeed installed to the SD card.
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I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?

kyphur said:
I don't install to my storage card anymore. Why would I do that when I start out with over 160mb of free Storage memory?
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No, I don't either. But also with installing on the device there seems to be some (speed)difference in ROM installing and CAB-installing.

I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.

pietrucci said:
Experiments have shown that of you take a full ROM vs. a lite ROM with the extra's from the full ROM installed afterwards, the full ROM is faster and more stabile.
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Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?

How to actually mark as deleted files in ROM?
Hello, this is an interesting thread, and I also hope you guys know more on this, since you're explaining the concept (and I also searched for a solution, but sorry, didn't find, I might have not used the proper keywords for searching):
kyphur said:
Sure the Rom file can be marked as deleted so they aren't listed in File Explorer anymore but they are rom files so you don't free-up any space.
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So I flashed Dutty's Official WM6.1 5.2.19716 UC RTM (but which ROM it is, doesn't really matter) as my question is related to "deleting" (or at least marking as deleted) ROM files. My problem is, I want to delete \Windows\Long Send.lnk because I don't like the Comm Manager show up when holding the green Send key during a call, while I'm expecting the phone to go into speakerphone mode like used from many other phones (even my Sagem cordless at home behaves this way). The folks in this ROM's thread suggested to delete that shortcut file (which is what I think they know right if they hadn't omitted the fact that the file is in ROM), but none of the in ROM or read-only attributes can be changed with Total Commander, so I can't "delete" it. Now I understand it's supposed to be just marked as deleted as it is "in ROM", so it is supposed to survive a hard reset, but how can I mark it deleted for the time being (next ROM upgrade for example, or hard-reset)?.

pedefede said:
Ok ... thanks!
- Do you by any chance have a link to such a benchmark?
- Does that also go for ROMs you cook yourself (with Alex' Kitchen)?
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No I don't have a benchmark of this. But then again: the current benchmarks (SPB and VS Benchmark) aren't that reliable.
I remember one cook from the Hermes device (maybe it was Pandora) made a ultra-lite version with an option to autorun everything afterwards with cabs.
This ROM wasn't as fast and snappy as the original full ROM. I think he quitted developing the ROM further.
Don't know if it's always true that everything's worse installing with cabs, it was just something a remembered from the past.
(by the way: I also install a lot from cabs...)

ChaOConnor said:
I'm with Kyphur on this one. The less I have in the ROM, the better because software is constantly changing, being upgraded, etc. Also, I find a lot of times my needs vary and I don't require so much "stuff" on my ROMs, so w/ the XDA-Live approach, I have the freedom to only install what I need. I guess it's a matter of preference really. Sure there are technical differences, both they are overcome either way, so it just comes down to what you like better.
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the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares

calvinzhang said:
the ROMs change too, and not slower than the softwares
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But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation

Zoolooc said:
But flashing every week a new ROM is not for everyone. The possibility to flash once in a while is cool and good enough for lots of people, but doesn't have to become the main occupation
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That's what "UC" is for! Auto Install all of your apps. Just remember to keep the cab files updated.

For me, one of the biggest advantage of full rom is I save a lot of time in doing backup since the files in the rom already.
Another advantage of full rom is they don't need to store any files under \Windows\AppMgr since they can't be uninstall anyway.
To overcome the bad effects of full rom. I tend to consider the following when putting programs in my full rom.
1. File can be run under \Windows
2. Programs that don't change that often, or doesn't need the latest version.

any Diamond owner using Stock rom has good experience with Opera 9.5 1938 + Flash 3.1

I am using stock rom that has Flash lite 2.1 and Opera 9.5 1660. I wonder if install the new Opera 9.5 1938 will over write the one from the stock rom.
also do the scroll wheel works on the new Opera?

Scroll wheel works here with 1938. But flash just doesn't do it for me, my whole device starts acting real slow when trying to watch a youtube video. The youtube player is good enough for me.

works here, but the processor get tired quick.
I can see on the data reception bar of the video that I'm in advance in terms of receiving datas, but the phone takes a lot of time to read and display the video...
It's laggy, but sometimes it's still bearable. Can play on google video and youtube. Works better on google.

thank you both, does it means I only need to install opera 9.5 1938 and flash lite 3.1 on top of the original ones? (the original one can't be uninstall)

I'm afraid this is the only way you can do if flash light 2.1 was already included in your ROM.
I just reflashed my device with a WWE version (previously I was using a French official one, without flashlight 2.1) and I noticed that flashlight is already in the WWE ROMS...
I just did the same, but I haven't tested out to see whether or not it still works this way.

I have a stock rom, with Opera 9.5 in the rom. I downloaded the new Opera 9.5 1938 cab,
VGA 1938 - Full Install to Device Memory
http://rapidshare.com/files/13784458...38_VGA_WWE.cab
http://www.4shared.com/file/59303458...ified=6e3eb675
but it won't install DIRECTLY. A message dialog said the old version needed to be uninstalled first, should I click "OK"?
or should I download another cab,
Opera Build 1938 Upgrade: (Not Resloution Specific)
http://rapidshare.com/files/13784362...38_Upgrade.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/59303557...ified=6e3eb675
thanks advance for your suggestion

I want to upgrade my opera buils too, do I need to overwrite the files I already have?
I downloaded the 1938 upgrade... but it's not a .cab ... just 3 files.
does anyone know? can't seem to find it anywhere.

I am absolutely shocked that there are no clear instructions on this matter. Sure we have a dozen user guides on how to get flash lite 3 working on the likes of Kaiser etc, but what about the HTC Diamond?

I have Opera vers. 1780 and alphazero ROM v2 and Flash 3.1 works Ok on my Diamond, it download and play the video without bugs, its delay something until the play starts, but the same can happens in some old PC browsers...!!!
My problems are:
- It does not recognize and play .swf files
- the scroll problem occur only when i touch the video area, otherwise it works
- the keyboard appears always by touching the video area, it's annoying

jodeltje said:
I want to upgrade my opera buils too, do I need to overwrite the files I already have?
I downloaded the 1938 upgrade... but it's not a .cab ... just 3 files.
does anyone know? can't seem to find it anywhere.
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If you have already Opera on your phone, you just need to overwrite the Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe and the third file opera.ini, but the last is not important at all.
helpme said:
I have a stock rom, with Opera 9.5 in the rom. I downloaded the new Opera 9.5 1938 cab,
VGA 1938 - Full Install to Device Memory
http://rapidshare.com/files/13784458...38_VGA_WWE.cab
http://www.4shared.com/file/59303458...ified=6e3eb675
but it won't install DIRECTLY. A message dialog said the old version needed to be uninstalled first, should I click "OK"?
or should I download another cab,
Opera Build 1938 Upgrade: (Not Resloution Specific)
http://rapidshare.com/files/13784362...38_Upgrade.zip
http://www.4shared.com/file/59303557...ified=6e3eb675
thanks advance for your suggestion
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You need to extract and to copy the files opera9exe, operaL.exe into \Windows directory

qtek_metanol said:
If you have already Opera on your phone, you just need to overwrite the Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe and the third file opera.ini, but the last is not important at all.
\Windows directory
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thanks for the quick response, but when I try to paste the files in the windows directory it asks if I want to replace the old files... I choose yes... and then it says the files are write protected or in use...
what am I missing? opera isn't running.

jodeltje said:
thanks for the quick response, but when I try to paste the files in the windows directory it asks if I want to replace the old files... I choose yes... and then it says the files are write protected or in use...
what am I missing? opera isn't running.
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Sorry i forgot to tell you that you may use total commander or Resco Explorer 7 or higher to overwrite the ROM original files.

I overwrite the Opera file under \Windows and it works great. Thank you all.
UPDATE: Opera works great but NOT flash lite 3.1. On Youtube page, it only shows a white area at where the video box suppose to be. Anybody know why? :<

sorry to keep bugging you but I installed total commander and even that says: "cannot copy or move file!"
is there a setting somewhere inside total commander that I'm not seeing which will allow me to overwrite romfile's?

just rename the original files (e.g. Opera9.exe -> Opera9_original.exe) and then move the 1938 files to the windows directory. after that restart...

I got the rename and overwrite part ok for Opera 9.5 1938 but youtube still won't show video control after install Flashlite 3.1 on top of 2.1 (the one from stock rom)

1) Use a process manager to shut down anything Opera related. Usually two files.
2) Copy over the new opera files to the Windows directory. You may need to rename the old ones with .OLD
3) Install Flash Lite 3.1 cab, it has to be installed in the same place as Opera.
4) Restart the phone.
5) Delete your .OLD files
6) Start Opera - all should work on YouTube if that's where you go but it is patchy at best and a lot slower than using the YouTube client for example. It doesn't work on the BBC site for example.

ilario said:
just rename the original files (e.g. Opera9.exe -> Opera9_original.exe) and then move the 1938 files to the windows directory. after that restart...
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worksssss...... thanks!
It's not great though, I only use it for links on site's to youtube clips and then don't zoom in (because the keyboard will pop up) and hold my finger on the clip to select fullscreen. that works with the least hickups and other annoyances.
It does landscape and normal view in fullscreen btw (both with progress bar)
PS. I have the original dutch 1.93 ROM With Opera 9.5 1938 build.

Flash lite 3.1 [working][cab here] [repost]

Flash Lite V3.5 Cab!​
It works! and its in a cab! Works in opera, youtube, google videos, some basic flash games!
For it to work:
*Opera and flash need to be installed in the SAME place (main memory or SD card)
*Be using the newest Opera Build, 1938 ( Upgrade cab here)
*Have WM6.1 Core 20000+ (Some 19000+ builds work, and some WM6 work, but it seems to be a bit unreliable - WM5 will not work atm)
*Do NOT Use the official beta, it DOES NOT WORK
*Remove all other version of flash first, it will not work if they are installed/cooked into your rom
Other:
*If you want to uninstal it, its called Anryl My Mobile Application
*This does not seem to work with IE
*This will NOT work with opera Mini
*This does not seem to work on netfront
*The Null keyboard cab attached is to deal with the problem with the virtual keyboard poping up when you click on a flash vid, its a bit messy but works for the time being.
*Wont work with WM standard untill there is a version of opera 9.5 for it. (unless there is?)
*You may need to hard reset in order for this to work, but pleases try both cabs first
Working on (for some people):
*Hermes CRCV13 nakes BS (me)
*prophet
*Kaiser
*might be other I have missed
Geting it:
*First post about it + 4shared link
*Attached to this post
Report back:
Did it work?
What device?
What build of Opera are you using?
What build is your rom?
Are you using anryl's cab (attached to this post) or Dvha79_ddt's (links just below)?
I did not rip this, I just posted the info here for everyone
All credit to anryl for extracting it!
We have another Cab!
See here
All credit to dvha79_ddt for this one!
Can you give feedback if ones more stable than the other ect!
(This repost was request by a member of the Kaiser forum, [email protected].)

Hey Veyka,
I have just rebuilt my Kaiser (see below for ROM and setup), as my preferred ROM has Opera (build 1780) included, I installed the "Opera_95_1938_update_only.CAB" found on this thread onto my device main memory.
I then installed the "Dvha79_AdobeFlash3.1_plugin" (again found on this thread) onto my device main memory.
Using the Opera browser I opened up Google, went to their video page, and the top left embedded video played quickly and clearly.
Thanks to you and all involved in the development.
I am very happy. This works very well.
Regards,
J

Glad its working for you! Probs better than it is on my ikkle old Hermes

Cool! Looking forward to testing this out shortly.
Rob

I tried it on my tilt with the official 6.1...Nice job man...Youtube worked great with Opera...My only problem now is that I can't keep my coworker's hands off my tilt...Get ur own tilt, demet...

Hi,
Did it work?
on google video(video from youtube) and daily motion yes but not on youtube !!
What device?
What build is your rom?
Kaiser wm 6.1(Build 19212.1.0.3) see signature
What build of Opera are you using?
build1957 installed on sd card
Are you using anryl's cab
yes
What is strange in opera:
if i switch from google mobile version to classic
and i click on the top video link, i choose a video
it works but not smoothly(i guess buffer worry),
and note it's a (from) youtube video
but if i go to youtube, from opera and i click on any video proposed
the video isnt opened in opera browser but in an external application
(translated from french) HTC streaming media("Media en continu" V2.2 217.821 compilation) and that player shows a "network not found"
and if i click on the bottom left "connect" button, it shows a top field with a "blank url"
"rtsp:// "
so the youtube video isnt played !
Did you encounter that problem?
Another big problem linked to the video not running smoothly
my free ram '"stockage" is decreasing from 10mb to zero and then opera/wm6.1 pops up an error message "not enough free ram"
why isnt the video buffered to the sdcard instead of the device?
any help welcome
Regards

thanks for the post...! quick question though...how can i remove previous flash from my phone (omnia stock rom...no upgrades) and back it up?

I can't seem to get this to work right. When I load up youtube, the video box is displayed, but the video doesn't play. It will either stay blank or show static lines. I am using Sakajati's NOV 15 ROM if that helps...

you must make sure that the dll file is in the plugin folder in your opera9 dir in windows..i had this problem and tried EVERY SINGLE ROM and i found out i loast this file somewhere down the like..download an older version (1938) and extract the dll from the windows\opera9\plugins folder from the cab

pazookie said:
you must make sure that the dll file is in the plugin folder in your opera9 dir in windows..i had this problem and tried EVERY SINGLE ROM and i found out i loast this file somewhere down the like..download an older version (1938) and extract the dll from the windows\opera9\plugins folder from the cab
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What dll do I need because I'm not finding it. Is it something you could post?

here you go..make sure its in windows/opera9/plugins

Thanks for posting the file...but it didn't work. It wants to work, but the videos aren't playing correctly. I wonder if the ROM I am using has flashlite cooked in, I'll have to test this later.

veyka said:
*You may need to hard reset in order for this to work, but pleases try both cabs first
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HP iPAQ 211 Enterprise edition (Stupid HP, not doing the WM 6.1 update):
WM 6 Classic
I wasn't sure of my Opera 9.5 build, so it went like this:
(Tests performed on YouTube and Google video)
Install and try Anryl -> fail both
Soft reset
Try Anryl again -> fail both
Uninstall Anryl
Used the 1938 update cab
Install and try Anryl (again) -> fail both
Uninstall Anryl
Install and try Dvha -> fail both
Fail means:
Google Video: black with no video playback
YouTube: the message about JavaScript turned off or old Flash displays.
How would a hard reset help? Last time I did that ('cause my device was tweaking out), all the data on it was lost. How would losing all my data (and thus FlashLite 3.1) help me?

pazookie said:
here you go..make sure its in windows/opera9/plugins
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That folder does not exist on my device (mentioned previously: iPAQ 211).

So, do we have any surefire way to make it work on WM6?

So, using build 2392 of Opera, I got Flash Lite to work on www.spezzo.com and some flash games, but YouTube and Google Video do not work. The display is a bunch of colory lines, and says it gets a few secconds in, but stops. Any ideas? Thanks!

pazookie said:
here you go..make sure its in windows/opera9/plugins
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my opera9 folder doest has the plugins folder, can i create it?
Thanks

dtag said:
I tried it on my tilt with the official 6.1...Nice job man...Youtube worked great with Opera...My only problem now is that I can't keep my coworker's hands off my tilt...Get ur own tilt, demet...
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ur rom is the factory tilt rom right? can u explain the exact steps u did?? need assistance!! thanks n advance.
PLUS I CANT INSTALL THE OPERA UPDATE CAB ON THE 1ST POST. but i dl the same cab build fr another site, but its directed to install on the sd...confused...

Thanks Veyka, I've just tested this on T-Mobile Vario IV (WM6.1 ROM) and it works like a treat

i've tryed to instal this but no work. i'm using a samsung i900 rom version PDA: i900DXHL3/DZHL5 PHONE: i900DXHL3. i've installed the update for opera and one of the 3 cab files first posted, but i don't remember (90% is the on wich has 2mb Anryl Flash3_1.CAB) When i try to start a page like youtube, opera closees. Any sugestions ?
PS:And also the Samsung Widgets from today menu desapired...
PS2: now i can't remove the program. it's saying something like "the program wasn't uninstalled correctly, you want to remove it from program list... click yes or no"
/

Upgrading Opera

Hello! I appreciate very much what this comunity does for all of the pocket pc owners out there. That being said, could someone please post a how-to on upgradin Opera 9.5 without upgrading the firmware, please? I've searched the forum but people seem not to want to answer to this question. Maybe it's an idiotic question.. When i try to upgrade mine it says that it cannot remive the previous version, and when i press yes on wanting to continue at the end it says installation not successful! Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks!

Hmm... Doesn't anyone know this? 75 people read this and no one? I find this very strange. I hoped that other people were having this question. Thank you!

If you just want to upgrade, uninstall the old version if you are able and install the latest cab or find an upgrade version. If you can't uninstall, just install the new version overtop of the old. If you install over top make sure you are launching the proper executable. You can check your version by going to help, about Opera, and look for your build version at the top.That's it!
Next time try doing a little more reading, the answer is out there!!!!!

To Upgrade the Stock Version of Opera on a Diamond
Hi. It's unusual that somebody hasn't posted these complete steps before. So here we go:
To upgrade the stock version of Opera on a Diamond without flashing a new ROM
1. Go to the Opera thread here. Don't bother trying to install the official (non-Diamond) beta of Opera as it's more trouble than it's worth. Use the official Diamond Opera betas in the link here. You also should not try to uninstall the Opera version you already have on your Diamond
2. Download the Diamond Opera version that you would like. Choose the Upgrade zip package, not the Full Install package
3. Open the downloaded zip file and extract the three files (Opera9.exe, OperaL.exe, OperaPreL.exe)
4. Transfer these to a folder on your Diamond. eg "New Build"
5. Make a backup of the original Opera9.exe, OperaL.exe and OperaPreL.exe that is in the Windows folder of your Diamond. This is in the event that the new Opera build doesn't work as expected and you want to go back to the previous version
6. Use Resco File Explorer or similar to copy and paste the three files from the "New Build" folder to the Windows folder on your device. This will overwrite the old Opera files with the new ones. You can't use the standard WM6 File Explorer to do this as it won't let you overwrite the old files
7. Reset
8. The new build of Opera is now installed. Before you do anything else, return to the Windows folder on your Diamond and locate the "ghost images" of the older Opera build that are left behind (these have filenames along the lines of Opera9.exe.$7 and OperaL.exe.$22 or similar; make sure you don't try to delete the newer Opera9.exe and OperaL.exe files!) Deleting these unnecessary "ghost images" will free up lots of space.
For the record, I'm currently using build 1938 of Opera (extracted from a newer Diamond ROM). I don't recommend using the newest 2128 build as it comes with lots of issues such as excessive boot time, problems loading TouchFlo 3D favourites, etc. I think this new build is only designed to work alongside a newer version of TouchFlo 3d. The 1938 build works great for me though. Very quick, no issues. Still waiting for them to improve the Favourites list in Opera itself; it's a shambles.
Hope that helps
Dave

thank you
Now this is what a call a very good walktrough! Thank you for your help! I installed the version you sugested and it works perfectly! I guess it's quite easy when you know what to do.

+1 Thank you for this clear explanation.
Ciao
Fred

Thanks for the brilliant guide, I tried a cab upgrade earlier and killed opera completely (had to restore my sprite backup from the morning).
I'll give this a go

THANK you for the VERY clear and well written set of instructions on this, I just got my Diamond (US Unlocked Version) today, and you saved me a lot of headaches!

i upgraded to opera 9.5.2745
just run the .cab and it was done without any problems...
but the icons turn out really small after the install.. other than that, everything works great?
got my opera from this link (not sure if external links are allowed, pls remove if its not!)
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=303148

zer0tr said:
i upgraded to opera 9.5.2745
just run the .cab and it was done without any problems...
but the icons turn out really small after the install.. other than that, everything works great?
got my opera from this link (not sure if external links are allowed, pls remove if its not!)
http://www.ipmart-forum.com/showthread.php?t=303148
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You might have a QVGA version. This thread has links to both VGA and QVGA versions, but there is apparently a problem with the VGA version posted:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=442252
See post #115 of the thread, someone has helpfully posted instruction on how to get the QVGA version working in VGA. Simply replace the skin file and the loading image (png file) and edit your opera.ini file with new zoom settings.

Significantly increases the performance of your X2

Are you having problem with your CAB files or you need more speed and stability, then use Extendir to prepare your cab files.
Extendir is a file system filter driver that significantly increases the performance of your phone, in specific situations even up to 12 times as fast and faster…
With the help of Extendir 98% of my old and new files now work perfectly on my X2 without any heavy battery usage.
the link here :
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See my screen shots for Ram and memory information on my X2
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*wonders how he installed this*

which file did you download and install?

Where do you need help?
indycar said:
*wonders how he installed this*
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which file did you download and install?
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Which application? Please let me know what you really need to know. I have three difference threads in the post.

extendir what else we talkin bout here

indycar said:
extendir what else we talkin bout here
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The post is for three different threads as stated before, I used all the three threads together to product the result you see in my first post.
Answer to your question, check my attached file.
The software is really simple to use, download the file, unzip it and run Extendir Cabs.

and whats with extendir.dll which is actually doin the changes not the
extendir cabs which only makes cab files

indycar said:
and whats with extendir.dll which is actually doin the changes not the
extendir cabs which only makes cab files
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Yes that is what I'm asking you to do just re-cab your Cab files with Extendir Cabs, Install your files as usual and just relax and see how your phone will perform. But if you want to go all the way, you can read the post about Extendir all cache and Preset Installer
And you still have questions just post in the thread and ShaDrac can personally help you.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=530710
But from your questions, is like you are doubting the software???

kaybest said:
But from your questions, is like you are doubting the software???
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not doubting i just did hard reset two weeks ago and my x2 aint that bad atm i just dont want to screw it so id have to reinstall all the trash i need

Okay, so if i use Extendir on my Manila cabs, it should make sense work faster on the x2?

OK ... I used the Extender ... and here is what I did (and is it simple):
1. moved all of the cabs that I wanted to "extend" into a directory -- on my PC
2. ran "extendir cabs" and pointed it to the directory mentioned in #1
3. It generated a single cab with all of the cabs that I had moved into a single cab called the "directory name.cab" that was in #1
4. I copied the cab to my phone and installed it ...
That was it ... and it seems to work ... but I don't have any results that I can report ... only did it to day, and it is too early to say what it is doing -- but it seems to have better battery response ... note that one of the cabs that I "extended" was SPB 8 Mobile Shell. After the install, all of the programs worked and the install did not take very long ... shorter then installing the programs the first time ...
Now the questions ...
1. When the extender cab installs, it asks where to install the extender cab ... and I selected the storage card -- which I found strange since SPB 8 is normally installed in the device and not on the card ... It seems to work -- but should that have been installed on the device?
2. there only seems to be a single choice for the location of the install -- when I did it the first time, I installed in on the device, and it took up memory in the device when I hade "extended" cabs that were both formally in the device and on the storage card. I then addnd more programs into the directory for the cabs, and rans extendir cabs again and it created another file (called the directory name -- note that this cab is located in the same directory that the extendir cabs.exe file is located). When I copied it to my phone and installed it, it said that I had to uninstall the previous version of the extended cab -- which I did. (Note that I also tried to rename the cab to another name before installing it, and it still asked about uninstalling the previous version.) I am not sure if it is possible to use it for device located cabs and storage located cabs -- is that possible?
Well that is my experience with extender and how it is used ...

GottaStayFly said:
Okay, so if i use Extendir on my Manila cabs, it should make sense work faster on the x2?
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Yes It will help, please let us know your outcome. Maybe some people that don't use Manila because of battery and Memory issues, can try Manila too.
RJH57108 said:
OK ... I used the Extender ... and here is what I did (and is it simple)
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A thousand thanks for trying this tool, this tool is basically for Rom developer to use and cook applications into their Rom, back then people discovered using it to re-cabs our Cab files make them faster and less battery consuming.
Answer to your Questions : You just have to group your Cab files into two groups. First group for cabs that will be install into Phone memory, Second group for cabs in memory card.
Or you can re-cab your files separately.
Tips for better battery and more speed : You may know this, but for those that don't know.
* Install applications that runs regularly, runs in background or programs you use frequently into phone memory.
eg : Manila
* Install applications that don't runs in background, you don't use regularly or very large applications in Memory card.
eg : games

Hmm.. im not sure if im doing it wrong but what i did was use the program on the manila cabs and the other stuff, but when i restarted my x2 manila didn't bother to start up unless i install the non-extendir cab im not sure what im doing.

Here is what I noticed over the last few days ...
There is a significant speed increase in browsing (I use Iris -- gave up on the IE since I was getting warnings about using IE6 based browser and Microsoft does not appear -- at least i could not find one -- to have an upgrade) speed and also Bing is faster ...
SPB 8 is also faster ...
There might be an increase in battery life, but I am still evaluating that part of it ...

I will have to give this a try. Thanks for the heads up

will the droid pro+3.0 really work in xperia x2? haha..=)
i m newbie...