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Just wondering is anyone knows how to remap the stupid PTT button so I can use it for voice command??
I tried the PTTfix for the hermes, it disabled PTT but didn't allow me to reassign the button to anything else.
thanks,
Matt
Install Vibra Switch, then map this app to the button from the programs folder.
RemE said:
Install Vibra Switch, then map this app to the button from the programs folder.
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I hate to ask stupid questions, but installing this app, does not seem to enable a new hardware button. I still only show a total of 5, with no option of the PTT button. I am looking at the "buttons" commandlet in settings
What am I missing?
Try AEBPlus
isnt there just a simple way to do it in the registry?
or a different way to change it?
Solved it
Ok this actually can be done in the registry, what you will need to do first is stop the PPT service from loading when you boot up, I used SK tools and removed it from the start-up section of that program. Then you need to goto:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called 40C6
then I added a string called Name with the value Button 6
you should now be able to assign a program to PTT through settings/buttons
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if for whatever reason if its not there yet these are all the values I have under key 40C6
(default) "path to your program in quotes"
dword: BtnWnd value=0
dword: Flags value=0
string: Name value=Button 6
string: ResetCmd value "path to your program in quotes"
string: WndCls LEAVE BLANK
if you need to enter all that, go for it, but I would assume it would work after completing the first part of this post
let me know
PS with Voice command it only works to start the program, holding the PTT button to cancel a command doesn't work for me, if anyone figures that out let me know, that would be awesome
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Ok this actually can be done in the registry, what you will need to do first is stop the PPT service from loading when you boot up, I used SK tools and removed it from the start-up section of that program. Then you need to goto:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys .....
Nice. any thoughts on push and hold?
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Thanks!
I don't own SKTools, so I disabled the PTT service by going to hklm\services\ptt
on the "dll" entry, I just inserted a semi-colon, to prevent the dll from loading- ";PTTService.dll"
However, I was not having much luck getting button 6 to work. Entries appeared in "buttons", but it would not link to the calculator. Finally, I decided to reboot.
Reboot somehow removed button6 entries in registry.
So in other words, it is not working, for me.
Very odd.
mbritten said:
Ok this actually can be done in the registry, what you will need to do first is stop the PPT service from loading when you boot up, I used SK tools and removed it from the start-up section of that program. Then you need to goto:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called 40C6
then I added a string called Name with the value Button 6
you should now be able to assign a program to PTT through settings/buttons
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if for whatever reason if its not there yet these are all the values I have under key 40C6
(default) "path to your program in quotes"
dword: BtnWnd value=0
dword: Flags value=0
string: Name value=Button 6
string: ResetCmd value "path to your program in quotes"
string: WndCls LEAVE BLANK
if you need to enter all that, go for it, but I would assume it would work after completing the first part of this post
let me know
PS with Voice command it only works to start the program, holding the PTT button to cancel a command doesn't work for me, if anyone figures that out let me know, that would be awesome
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Thanks!
I don't own SKTools, so I disabled the PTT service by going to hklm\services\ptt
on the "dll" entry, I just inserted a semi-colon, to prevent the dll from loading- ";PTTService.dll"
However, I was not having much luck getting button 6 to work. Entries appeared in "buttons", but it would not link to the calculator. Finally, I decided to reboot.
Reboot somehow removed button6 entries in registry.
So in other words, it is not working, for me.
Very odd.
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I have heard that turning the phone off (hold power putton) will make the registry entries stick, but I've never had a problem just soft resetting, let me know if you figure it out
the reg change didn't persist for me either and I did perform a power cycle.
Would like
I sure would like to see a solution here myself. These folks have one for WM6 on Hermes but some Kaiser folks posted near the end of the thread that the method is not working for them. Author says he will eventually get it working on the Kaiser.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585
robroth said:
the reg change didn't persist for me either and I did perform a power cycle.
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what reg editor are you using? I have NEVER had a problem with edits sticking using resco reg editor. there has to be some reason.
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Thanks!
I don't own SKTools, so I disabled the PTT service by going to hklm\services\ptt
on the "dll" entry, I just inserted a semi-colon, to prevent the dll from loading- ";PTTService.dll"
However, I was not having much luck getting button 6 to work. Entries appeared in "buttons", but it would not link to the calculator. Finally, I decided to reboot.
Reboot somehow removed button6 entries in registry.
So in other words, it is not working, for me.
Very odd.
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I simply exported the PTT key altogether & removed it, put in the new 40C6 entry, and the device's remapping works flawlessly. Using SKTools.
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what reg editor are you using? I have NEVER had a problem with edits sticking using resco reg editor. there has to be some reason.
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total commander. ill have to try one of the others mentioned here. i'm about to reflash with the HTC rom so will have to reload everything anyway.
Which PTT key did you remove. Are you talking about HKLM\Services\PTT?
vpoet said:
I simply exported the PTT key altogether & removed it, put in the new 40C6 entry, and the device's remapping works flawlessly. Using SKTools.
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Could you explain exactly what you did for those of us that don't know. Many thanks!
Thanks
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Could you explain exactly what you did for those of us that don't know. Many thanks!
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at&t Tilt? Stock ROM?
I used the free PHM regedit:
http://www.phm.lu/downloads/download.aspx?{940B734A-C437-41C7-ADED-2A4418802FD3}
I completed deleted the whole PTT group from the services (would not work until I did this).
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I can confirm the experience of robroth and GumboChief. Followed GumboChiefs advice on the ; - worked to disable PTT load. Then followed mbritten's reg changes in post #6. Registry key 40C6 disappers consistently after soft reset.
However, removing the entire PTT worked perfect.
Big thanks to scoppola and mbritten! So happy to have this working! Cheers guys.
Device: 8925
ROM: AT&T - 1.57.502.2
Registry Editor - Resco 2007
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I can confirm the experience of robroth and GumboChief. Followed GumboChiefs advice on the ; - worked to disable PTT load. Then followed mbritten's reg changes in post #6. Registry key 40C6 disappers consistently after soft reset.
However, removing the entire PTT worked perfect.
Big thanks to scoppola and mbritten! So happy to have this working! Cheers guys.
Device: 8925
ROM: AT&T - 1.57.502.2
Registry Editor - Resco 2007
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WFM as well! - removed the entire PTT key.
This will drive me crazy. I have had the button above the volume mapped to Voice Command ever since I can remember. Now for the Tilt, it is mapped to Push to talk which I will never, ever use and the button mapping does not allow you to reassign it. Does anyone know if this is possible with any of the button manager programs? Do I need to flash the Kaiser ROM for this?
Also, the 8125 had a feature where you held this button down and it would swap the sound over to vibrate. If anyone knows how to get this working on the Kaiser, I highly recommend it. Beats having to pull the phone out of the holster/case to silence it, especially in a meeting.
Search for the answer.... It is here.
tried searching on push to talk. searching on buttons brings back a ton of results, none of which are specific to this particular problem. any suggestions on where to search and for what term or phrase?
Update, I found one... over in the hermes forum. This would be a good addition to the cab list sticky now that more folks are getting the AT&T ROM.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=279585&highlight=push+to+talk+map
I'll update after I have tried it on the Tilt
PTTFix work fine per the tread reference above but even though it allows you to assign a program to press and hold, there is no program "per se" to enact the vibrate setting. I do see this option on the HTC Home Screen though so maybe it is possible to create a shortcut in the Program Files directory and call it indirectly. I'll try this later when I have some time, but if anyone else gets to it first, please do share. TIA
this will do it for you.
I was never a fan of PTT anyway... Thanks for the CAB Tim. Works like a charm. For those curious, the option to select Vibra switch will be found under Settings > Buttons. Remap Button 6 to Vibra (Switch).
Spoke too soon. The PTTFix cab showed the buttons under the setting window, but after setting them, it still brought up the PTT screen. I though perhaps it needed a soft reset, and after doing so the ability to remap the PTT button disappeared.
isdereks, did you try this on the Tilt or the Kaiser? I am thinking the latter, since the PTTFix.cab shows the PTT button as a second button 5. Perhaps this is part of the problem of why it looks like it allows the setting, but doesn't actually work.
Bummer. I am quite disappointed. On top of all the bloatware, you get a button that launches an app that immediately errors out as I am not a PTT subscriber. HTC and MS should be pissed that AT&T is making the iPhone look like a clear winner. Pretty soon Apple will be running comercials with the big bloated guy for the iPhone too.
Sorry forgot to mention that I did this on the Kaiser.
yeah the new PTTFix did not work on my tilt, but worked great on my 8525. I hope this gets updated for the tilt.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334759
yeah tried all that and the reg settings do not stay after phone is shut down.
Worked for me. You have to read the whole post.
For my own purposes as well, here are the consolidated steps to take. Until someone improves on this, I keep all this stuff in a directory so I can reconfigure my device as necessary. Here goes...
I think the trick is the PTT settings take precedence when the device boots up so delete the PTT registry settings under HKLM/Services/PTT. Delete the whole sub tree, then
From HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\Keys
Add a new key called "40C6"
Add a string under the key called "Name" with the value "Button 6"
Add a new key called "40C7"
Add a string under this key called "Name" with the value "Button 6 (hold)"
(Note, do not enter the quotes, thare are to delimit what belongs in the registry entry)
Go to the Buttons settings and assign a program to the new entries. I di Voice Dial and Vibra (Switch) from the link earlier in the this post.
Do a soft reset which will remove the PTT settings from the buffer and enable your key changes.
Thanks for all the help.
I'd say the only caveat is if you some day want to use the PTT features, it would be a good idea to take an inventory fo what is under the PTT node in the registry.
It worked "GREAT". Thanks and so easy even I could do it
Instead of deleting the "PTT" key, i suggest simply renaming it to "PTTbak". That way you can just rename it back to "PTT" if you ever need to use it.
Thats what i did, and it works fine.
BTW, excellent work everyone. After upgrading to the tilt from the 8525 i lost 2 side buttons (comm manager button and the PTT button)... now i've got at least one back!
Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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Maybe someone could offer a suggestion. For the life of me, I cannot get the reg entries of 40C6 and 40C7 to stick. I am using PHM Registry Editor. I am powering down and back up. Anyone have any suggestions?
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did you delete the ptt key? (or at least rename as was suggested above?)
if you did try using the phone for while after you make the registry changes - run some other programs - then power down
greg
Greg, I renamed it and then nothing would happen. no button map and no PTT action. I am about ready to give up. But I will try your suggestions. Thanks.
NOw I got the PTT action back (the PTT screen pops up) but I cannot get the the button to do anything. I made the hold vibra and the direct push VC. Now nothing happens. Not sure what I did wrong. Not a noob at reg edits and I don't see anything wrong.
Oh well, not that big a deal, but am still open for more suggestions.
i tried renaming the PTT registry key and it didnt work. actually deleting it worked.
REG PTT
After doing the reg posted above the PTT button is free but you will notice after you push it, before the new app assigned to it pops up you will see the ptt screen for a second. What if the phone things you are using the ptt function and not Voice command or Viigo like I am?
ok new to window mobile. i have tweaked alittle on my phone and am wondering if i did the clear storage and soft reset before the 3 seconds. would that clear all the software i have downloaded and give me a fresh start.
alphadaddy said:
ok new to window mobile. i have tweaked alittle on my phone and am wondering if i did the clear storage and soft reset before the 3 seconds. would that clear all the software i have downloaded and give me a fresh start.
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No you need to hard reset.
https://www.wireless.att.com/suppor...alsCategory=Getting+Started&tutorialId=613850
ok
ok so this will get rid of all the software and cabs exe and read me file and anything else ive put on the phone. after doing this will i be able to sync with outlook for my contacts back. one other thing. i have re mapped my ptt will this be affected due to the program i downloaded to make this happen. file named oem assign ptt button
It will erase everything you have done. The phone will be exactly as it was when you first booted it up. Clean slate.
Oh and yea, you can use activsync to get your contacts back, but I save mine to the sim card as well, just in case.
what about the ptt remapping with some reg edit and program oem assign ptt button
alphadaddy said:
what about the ptt remapping with some reg edit and program oem assign ptt button
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EVERYTHING THAT IS STORED ON YOUR DEVICE (TWEAKS/PROGRAMS/PORNO)!!!!!!!
Damn
alphadaddy said:
what about the ptt remapping with some reg edit and program oem assign ptt button
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all registry changes and program installations will be undone. Think of a hard reset as you would think of reinstalling windows on your PC, all settings, programs, etc... are lost. Hope I helped. lataz.
Hard reset will get rid of everything, the boot following the hard reset will be at factory settings - just like if you bought it today.
When the screen says customization starting in 3 seconds, after the hard reset, insert stylus and do a soft reset. That will rid your phone of all the extra AT$T bloatware.
Hey everyone, I have been pouring over the forum and havent found anything. The few people I asked (including the maker of the ROM i use RRE Fuze V2.1) we can't figure it out. Here's the deal.
I use PTT, I got the PTT cab (RaphaelPTT_2008_09_10_A.cab)
The way his ROM is set up, total commander starts when you short press the PTT button, and the camera starts when you long press it.
I have tried deleting, renaming, moving, modifying the long_PTT.ink and short_PTT.ink links in the /Windows/ folder, but they are ROM files, if by some chance I am successful at renaming them, i look again and they have been added back.
So when i short push my PTT button to see my PTT contact list, the voice commander starts up and when i long press to talk to my contact, the camera starts or takes a picture. Quite annoying.
So, does anyone know a fix for this? or is there a way/program i can use to delete the file from the ROM? Any suggestions at all would be MUSH appreciated. Thank you.
I did the PTT registry edit fix (created two new keys, deleted the PTT key), and did a soft reset. Upon restarting, I got a series of windows saying "PTTwindow failed". I can deal with this, since I don't restart my phone every day, but is there any way I can get rid of the windows anyway?
Also, is there any way to quit a program other than pressing the "X" at the top right of the screen? Like, maybe assigning it to a button? It's all the way in the corner and sometimes my big fingers have trouble hitting it correctly.
Try going to \Windows\Startup and seeing if there is any PTT related shortcut, and if there is, delete it. On my old AT&T ROM, PTT used to load on startup, so I disabled it that way.
And yes, if you go to button settings, and select the button, at/near the top of the list of commands, select "OK/Close".
Dave
There was a PTT related shortcut and I removed it. Soft resetted and still get the messages: "PTT FindWindowFailed" and "PTT Unregister Class Failed".
And the OK/Close button just minimizes my programs, doesn't end them. If I leave them running won't it drain my battery faster? I am using Spb mobile shell, if it makes any difference.
What happens if you rename or backup then delete the PTT program? I think it's in the \Windows folder. If you delete anything, I would highly recommend backing up every file you delete.
And I would guess that although background programs would drain battery a little more, mobile shell probably drains just as much.
Hope that helps,
Dave
Thanks Dave - I found that there was a PTTFix program on my Tilt (I don't remember installing it - as I said I did the manual registry edit), and when I deleted the PTTFix program the boot popups stopped. I appreciate your help!
Sure, glad it all worked out.
Dave