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HTC Home cleanup/customization

Hopefully this isnt a silly question....
Im digging the new HTC home plugin, but it takes up SOO much screen real estate....
Ideally I just want to get rid of ALL of the tabs except the home tab...I want to get rid of the section of the plugin that has all of the different tabs. I want the clock and the notification portion...but even if I remove all of the tabe except the home one, there is still a section listing the home tab...I want to free up that real estate...
Any thoughts?
I know...kind of hard to explain....

lostinvt said:
Hopefully this isnt a silly question....
Im digging the new HTC home plugin, but it takes up SOO much screen real estate....
Ideally I just want to get rid of ALL of the tabs except the home tab...I want to get rid of the section of the plugin that has all of the different tabs. I want the clock and the notification portion...but even if I remove all of the tabe except the home one, there is still a section listing the home tab...I want to free up that real estate...
Any thoughts?
I know...kind of hard to explain....
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At this moment? Not possible!
I know people are looking into it, but it's not possible yet. Maybe it will come available.

I just want the damn clock to be not quite so large
DLD

Vendor Start Screen

I've searched quite a bit and I just can't find it, what is the link to the first screen that shows up on the Tilt when it boots up?
I know the animation is: 3G Up_01_1.gif
I know the Windows start image is: welcomehead.95.png
But I can't find out that first image.
Or if there is anyway to make one picture show up the whole way through instead of switching to the 3 seperate ones. (I do know there is a point to it, and it's nice to know where it is in the boot process)
And while you're here, do you know if there is a way to add a "Weather" plugin to the HTC Home Plugin that comes on the Tilt? I've found the upgraded one that adds the PIE icon and I can use Kaiser Tweak to add more, but none of them are a weather plugin.
Thanks.

that's part of ROM image, to cahnge it you have to flash your ROM with a cooked one. Also, I think you can just flash the splashscreen but that requires you to load a different bootloader such as HardSPL.
If you have HTC HOme loaded, then you have a weather tab. Get HTC Home Customizer from pocketemu.com and you can customize the tabs, icons, and weather settings.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342526&highlight=disable+startup+animation
edit: I don't think this is what you were looking for. Unless you want to disable the start up animation..

ericc191 said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=342526&highlight=disable+startup+animation
edit: I don't think this is what you were looking for. Unless you want to disable the start up animation..
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Nope, I've already replaced that one.
Thanks though.

smittyofdhs said:
that's part of ROM image, to cahnge it you have to flash your ROM with a cooked one. Also, I think you can just flash the splashscreen but that requires you to load a different bootloader such as HardSPL.
If you have HTC HOme loaded, then you have a weather tab. Get HTC Home Customizer from pocketemu.com and you can customize the tabs, icons, and weather settings.
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Ok, I may have to look into that.
As far as HTC Home, I don't like the large clock format. I like how it is, although I plan to go through the Customizer and see if I can make one I like better.
Thanks.

Neonwheels said:
Ok, I may have to look into that.
As far as HTC Home, I don't like the large clock format. I like how it is, although I plan to go through the Customizer and see if I can make one I like better.
Thanks.
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If you don't use HTC Home plugin and just want a good weather plugin, then there's a host of good ones out there. I recommend SPB Weather it's one of the best out there.

smittyofdhs said:
If you don't use HTC Home plugin and just want a good weather plugin, then there's a host of good ones out there. I recommend SPB Weather it's one of the best out there.
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I will definitely look into that. So far I've just been using google as my PIE homepage with the weather located on top of the headlines once I log in.
Thanks.

Neonwheels said:
I will definitely look into that. So far I've just been using google as my PIE homepage with the weather located on top of the headlines once I log in.
Thanks.
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Yeah that's what I do to. I used to use Marsware WeatherPanel along with the normal plugins of WM5. Now with this HTC plugin, I just like it way better. My weather isn't as detailed but I like the design better then the old plugins. All comes down to personal perferences....

Simple today screen needed.

Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D

Dirky said:
Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D
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This is what i have, it sounds like it might be what you're looking for, the clock/calendar is rltoday, mine is a basic setup but you can customize it how ever you want, i've seem some pretty cool looking setups that are pretty advanced for me. The tabs is claunch, which you can have up to 8 tabs, you can have what ever icons you want in it, and you can make the icons as big/small as you want.

brianlb said:
This is what i have, it sounds like it might be what you're looking for, the clock/calendar is rltoday, mine is a basic setup but you can customize it how ever you want, i've seem some pretty cool looking setups that are pretty advanced for me. The tabs is claunch, which you can have up to 8 tabs, you can have what ever icons you want in it, and you can make the icons as big/small as you want.
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Thanks, very nice but more than I need. I don't need the calendar or clock, just a set of large icons I can quickly stab at with my fingers!
BTW what is the gmail notification you have there?
Thanks
D
(edit: just checked the rltime website and perhaps it will do what I want after all!)

Dirky said:
Thanks, very nice but more than I need. I don't need the calendar or clock, just a set of large icons I can quickly stab at with my fingers!
BTW what is the gmail notification you have there?
Thanks
D
(edit: just checked the rltime website and perhaps it will do what I want after all!)
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if it's just a few buttons you want then claunch might be something you want to take a look at, i have it setup w/4 tabs, but you can have it w/no tabs and just one screen and then put what ever icons you want to open up the program. the gmail notification is the standard Tilt notification. it came w/the phone.

SPB Mobile Shell, and SPB Pocket Plus are also excellent options. SPB Mobile Shell, is made for ease of use and functionality, but still makes your screen look amazing. You can even get weather updates on it. It also includes something called the SPB menu, which is fantastic for one handed navigation of programs, settings etc...
The first screenshot is of my today screen, at the top is SPB Pocket Plus (but Mobile shell looks similar), I use my tabs hidden, but as you can see from the second pic, if you just click on a tab, it has lots of goodies within. You can also have it so you don't need to click on a tab, and the content is always shown.
The third pic is so you can see how practical SPB menu is.
PS: I am in NO way affiliated with SPB, I just happen to love their software lol.

I agree for simple setup and use SPB Shell is a good starting point and you can customize the layout and icons to your needs.
If your into a bit more messing about and a little more work try Touch Commander.
As a starting point though SPB Shell

MaxMotus said:
I agree for simple setup and use SPB Shell is a good starting point and you can customize the layout and icons to your needs.
If your into a bit more messing about and a little more work try Touch Commander.
As a starting point though SPB Shell
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Thanks guys, must say having looked at the web page and features of SPB shell it does look very good.
Just wondered if it adds any stability issues or slow down to your kaiser device that you have noticed.
I tried to switch my kaiser on this morning with the usual power switch and it would not do anything. The lights were still flashing but nobody was home. I plugged it in to external power but still the same, ended up having to soft reset it. Sadly this is the second 'oddity' I have had in just over a week now. First was when it became unresponsive and would not respond to any screen presses. (I've not loaded SPB yet and to be honest not a lot else) /sigh!

Quick question, how does one get back to the SPB today screen from any other screen in one press? Without turning on/off?
Thanks
Mike

By pressing the End key?

Dirky said:
Hi,
I come from land of Blackberry. I'd like a simple home/today screen.
6 or 9 icons which point to things like calendar, email, sms, Opera.
I need to operate these with my finger and not the stylus, or perhaps the side wheel.
Also I want to get back to this screen with a single click of something.
Thanks
D
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Hi:
I saw this, and thought of your post:
http://www.freestylwm.com/
I haven't tried it myself, but it looks pretty cool, and it's free
If you try it, let me know what it's like

So after a month of using TF3D...

I decided to disable it and use ilauncher, ill never go back to TF3D in the near future.
The device is so much easier to use and is far more responsive.
Just thought i'd share incase you wanted to see for yourself!

any screen shots?

milky wallpaper
i tried the same but when i wanted to place a wallpaper on the today screen it went all milky.that and the loss of the tf music player made me go back again. how did you solve these issues?

It's not very difficult to create an ui which is faster, easier to use and has more options to customize than tf3d. Whats cool about tf3d - the wather app? I'am wondering, what kind of benefit people see in this peace of software.
I am using MS2 and it beats tf3d in all regards. You can get with a few clicks to anywhere. If there is a menu you miss, you create it, or you delete an existing one. You can use the complete MS2 only with your thumb. (hardware+softkeys). You have shortcuts to your last used programs within the today-screen - if you wan't to keep a shortcut, it's possible to stick them.
MS2 throws you not so early back to WM6 as tf3d. (contacts,notes...) I even find it is optical more apealing on the long run and more unified in look and feel.
That there are many ui's better than tf3d is more because of the bad design of it than good design from the others, I have the impression, the makers of tf3d are only interested in smashing some eye-catchers together for nice screen-shots, instead of getting the user fast and easy to the point where he wants to.

The only reason I'm keeping TF3D is without it some system functions don't work. For example, volume buttons stop working during calls etc. etc.

pwoyorkie said:
I decided to disable it and use ilauncher, ill never go back to TF3D in the near future.
The device is so much easier to use and is far more responsive.
Just thought i'd share incase you wanted to see for yourself!
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here it is if anyone is intrested
http://www.sbsh.net/product.php?id=29

Getting Rid of TF3D

This thread is for discussion among those of us TD2 users who have dumped, or might dump, TF3D in favour of either another Today screen replacement or the stock WinMo 6.1 Today screen.
Thus far I'm finding the TD2 a hell of a lot more usable without TF3D. Little things like being able to use a lock password with a 15 minute delay, getting auto-Capitalization when writing texts are good, along with a much faster phone, much less memory usage and....it even seems I'm getting better battery life.
Most of the bugs people are reporting are actually TF3D issues which are resolved by ditching TF3D.
So has anyone else taken the plunge and gone back to the standard WinMo6.1?

I used to installed Ultimate Launch then Spb Mobile Shell in my original Diamond. Now I am using TF3D in my Diamond2. I wish Mobile Shell 3 may upload a more bug free version for the new device such as HD and Diamond2 and I may switch back to Mobile Shell. Perhaps WM6.5 release may change my plan and look forward to what HTC still put their manila on top of those WM6.5 device.

As I said, the thread is for people who are NOT using TF3D.
Personally I think WM6.5 will render TF3D completely redundant by handling the one thing it's good at - gloss.
Another thing I've noticed about not using TF3D is that the phone's response to tilting it to landscape and back is a lot faster.

My case as well: I've got the feeling that TF3D is more like a heavy bag.
As soon as I deactivated, the phone became easier to be handled and plus, presenting extra memory/battery resources as well.
However, a Launcher is very much needed, since neither the TF3D, nor the WM's Today screen don't offer the possibility to get to your action choice with only one button-tap.
Is there a good free launcher which can do that?
cheers!

I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
The start menu seems to appear quicker than the TF3D one does as well.
Another thing I'm liking is the Today plugin for the RSS reader - TF3D2 didn't seem to handle RSS alerts well, when you acknowledged them it didn't take you into the RSS reader.
Best of all though is the fact I can now password protect my phone properly and delay it for 15 mins so I'm not badgered for the password all the time.
I'm finding that I don't need the stylus much either, despite the smaller menus and so on.
I just can't get over the extended battery life and improved memory usage though!

Without TF3D and three apps running (calendar, contacts and file explorer) my memory is loaded only 38%.
With TF3D it never went under 50%.
As for the battery, I can only say that it seems that lasts longer, but I didn't really seriously monitor it.

I was using PointUI Home2 free version on my Diamond, it's great. Less memory usage, and huge customisability. I had 5 "tabs" with the homescreen (see attachment) calendar & tasks, comms, stock, and weather. Worked great.
The default Home2 theme is a little mucky, but there is a huge range of alternative themes. I made a nice black one that suits the diamond.

If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.

chch said:
If I get rid of TF3D then
- can I alter by normal threaded SMS for to show more than 1 line that I have typed in my new reply (like TF3D does)?
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Yes
- can I still create push internet sites without TF3D?
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I believe so as this is an Opera thing but I don't use Push Internet at all so I can't be sure
- will the hardware button for program files still work? Will this take me to the same screen?
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Assuming you mean the flag button, yes it still brings up the Start Menu, but you'll get the normal WM6.1 one, which contains your most recently used apps, your seven favourite apps you've selected to appear on the menu, a shortcut to Settings and a shortcut to all your Programs.
Can I exit TF3D without disabeling it just to check out how things look?
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Just go into All Settings, Personal, Today and uncheck the TF3D box to turn TF3D off. Give it a few days of usage before you make your mind up. Don't forget to turn on and customize the other Today screen plugins to get the full experience.
I have disabled and tweaked so much of TF3D that I am also thinking that it is going to be off my device with the 6.5 ROM anyway .... why not do it now.
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My thoughts entirely. In a couple of months' time TF3D will be completely redundant anyway.

Incidentally, I've started getting right into Today screen plugins...TodayAgenda is frankly the best app on my phone. I use the Todo (Tasks) app more than any other app on my phone. TodayAgenda allows you to have your task list (with only the active tasks showing, huzzah!) right there on your today screen, so you don't even need to unlock your phone to see what you need to do next! And you can complete tasks and create new ones right there on the Today screen. It's awesome and I can see this becoming my new most-used widget.
Just this one plugin renders TF3D utterly redundant as far as I'm concerned!
The RSS reader has a plugin too, which is really useful.
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins? I tried PointUI Home2 but that's more of a replacement than a plugin.

Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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No I'm talking about TodayAgenda - it's a plugin, you have to download and install it. It lets you look as far ahead as you like and does both Todos and Calendat entries (although I only use it for Todos).
Also, try WMP Status 1.0, it shows you on the today screen the artist, album, track and track number that you're currently playing in Media Player. Very useful as you don't need to unlock your phone to see what you're listening to!

grgmhlch said:
Hi Jim,
By TodayAgenda you mean the calendar inputs shown in the Today screen?
If this is so, I'm a little disapointed because it shows only the next one, not the next week ones, let's say...
Is there a way to have more than one event listed?
thanks
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Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.

Jim Coleman said:
Incidentally, if you go into Settings / Today and highlight CALENDAR, click OPTIONS, you can set it to show all upcoming appointments instead of just the next one.
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Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.

grgmhlch said:
Thank you Jim.
It seems that I've missed the Option button.
Thanks for the TodayAgenda tip too.
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No problem. Check out WMP Status 1.0 as well, it's really useful when you're listening to music!

Ok, since I droped TF3D, I also dropped the phone dialer skin, leaving the WM one, which is fine for me but apparently it has a bug:
it doesn't show me the calls&contacts, in its scroll-down field, even though there is some information present, because if I tap, it opens the call's details window.
In other words, it's like a list on which the items have the same font color like the list's background.
Did anybody experienced the same?
Is it possible that another dialer skin would change this behavior?

I put Phonealarm and today agenda straight on my phone and removed TF3D its just too restricting. I can get to everything i need with one click on the home screen none of this swishing fingers to get to stuff.

I really don't know what some of yoy are complaining about...
Not Capitalizing the first letter... NONSENS, when i write a SMS the first letter of a sentence is capitalized..
Memory consumption.......
Why do you think this device has so much ???? Because HTC wants you to run TF3D and still have more then enough memory free to run Whatever app......
I was sceptical at first too. But if you give it a chance you will see that once you have seen every screen (without a reboot) it's VERY fast, and very comfortable...
I am sure i will keep TF3D for a while !

Jim Coleman said:
Does anyone else have good suggestions for really useful Today plugins?
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I used to run 2 Today pages using Second Today.
Weather (SPB Traveller) , CLauncher and SPB Phone (can't beat the options here) on the 1st Today. SPB Diary full screen on the other (2nd) Today.
Custom links to Internet and GPS Navigation complete the productive config.
I travel for business. Calendar and Contacts and the most important.
TF3D Calendar can't make top 20 on market I would say. Contacts in TF3D are death by scrolling (by default). The new D2 Dialer is more productive for contacts than any of the TF3D contacts screens!
I agree that all these other UIs that don't allow Today plugins are missing the point. People want to pay for and use specialist programs where certain functionality is important to them.

Jim Coleman said:
I'm finding judicious use of which apps you put into the Start Menu helps a lot - the apps I use on a daily basis are all there, others I can get to via their presence on the Today screen, such as Tomtom.
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With a WVGA screen, I really wish there were a work around to be able to place more than 7 apps in the start menu. Can't believe I've never found a hack for this.
Alternatively, I love to be able to route the start button to the All Programs folder but never been able to find this either. Two simple things that must not be easy or else we would have seen them before.
BTW, I unchecked TF3D within 24hrs (a month ago). I use SPB Mobile Shell for the shell. For the today screen (WM 6.1) I use Today Agenda, Google Search, Elecont Weather (paid) or WeatherBugDirect (free). I also run all my tasks and appointments from the traditional today screen via TodayAgenda.