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Kaiser: Best Purchase of my life

I have been absolutely thrilled with my Kaiser II so far. It does everything I could possibly want!. I will list here all the wicked awesome things that I do with my Kaiser. There is so much talk of trading in our phones that I wouldn't mind hearing some other positive view points.
I can listen to podcasts / music
I can watch Movies/TV episodes with superb quality using the lastet video player from core.
The amount of games I have an this thing is mind blowing, I think Im around 20-25 kickass games!
Getting on the internet! Ive never owned a labtop or smartphone before so its a luxury for me to browse the net at school.
Reading the news!! I love being able to read RSS streams with my phone.
Reading books! I can read ebooks easily with this!
Im never bored with my Kaiser around!

Sweet =) I'm happy for you, really am (no sarcasm implied).
I love it too actually... for some reason none of my previous PDAs (casiopeia, ipaq, wizard..) interested me enough to sit all day long with them trying different things. Kaiser is just... so ... I dunno, advanced? complex? with all its little problems and cool features.. you keep exploring it and using it, and trying all the different things and combinations.. seeing what it can do and what it can't.. and how to "teach" it to do it..
It's a fun toy, whatever the case =)

I moved to the Tilt from a Palm Treo 650. It was a big advance from the phone I once made love to (treo).
You might bring some sanity to your (soon to be) new friend "bronx"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362187

DarkDvr said:
Sweet =) I'm happy for you, really am (no sarcasm implied).
I love it too actually... for some reason none of my previous PDAs (casiopeia, ipaq, wizard..) interested me enough to sit all day long with them trying different things. Kaiser is just... so ... I dunno, advanced? complex? with all its little problems and cool features.. you keep exploring it and using it, and trying all the different things and combinations.. seeing what it can do and what it can't.. and how to "teach" it to do it..
It's a fun toy, whatever the case =)
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Same here. I used to have an iPAQ hw6515 and it was a very utilitarian device for me. It kept me organized, and with TomTom it kept me from getting lost (most of the time) The memory was lacking on that device so I never tried anything cool like specialized Today screens, (for fear I might slow it down even more) and with only EDGE data on the iPAQ I only got the information I absolutely needed right now on the internet. With the ample memory, and the blazing fast internet on my Tilt I can do so much more, and I do find myself "playing" with it quite often. Hands down the best phone I've ever had, I even rank my satisfaction with the Tilt higher than what I experienced with my Moto StarTac and V60 in their time. I remember I absolutely loved my StarTac, I felt like Captain Kirk with it... Now with my Tilt I have a converged device. My Communicator and my Tricorder have been merged togeather into this fantastic little device.
-Jay

Jay2TheRescue said:
StarTac, I felt like Captain Kirk with it...
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Hahaha, yeah!! I remember StarTac... man that was a cool phone at the time!! It couldn't do crap, but it was so cool looking haha... I thought how much better can a cell phone get... lol

Me too!!
I've had various phones in the past, not pda's as they've never really excited me. I tried a SE P990 in a desperate attempt to get some more functionality from my phone...yuk, not a good choice.
I haven't had my Kaiser long but I've not stopped playing with it since it arrived. It's replaced my ipod too now that I have a BT stereo headset (and for the record that works perfectly, I believe many have had problems). Just need to sort out video on it and I don't think I'll ever change it.
Even my misses thinks its a cool phone so thats gotta be saying something.
Just wait until you start flashing it, then the fun really begins

I went along the same path, coming off of a CDMA treo 650. When I first got the treo, that is exactly how I felt about the purchase. It did everything I wanted and more. GPS was huge for me, despite requiring an external BT receiver. Once using a smartphone/convergence device there was no turning back for me.
Upgrading to the tilt just made things sweeter - integrated gps, SDHC support, and the big one that the treo lacked - WIFI.
grizzley said:
I moved to the Tilt from a Palm Treo 650. It was a big advance from the phone I once made love to (treo).
You might bring some sanity to your (soon to be) new friend "bronx"
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362187
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DarkDvr said:
Hahaha, yeah!! I remember StarTac... man that was a cool phone at the time!! It couldn't do crap, but it was so cool looking haha... I thought how much better can a cell phone get... lol
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I had the Captain Kirk-esqe way of opening the StarTac with a flick of my wrist. I was never able to get my V60, V551 or V3 to open like that. The flips were too tight on the other models. So what do you think of my vision of a converged communicator and tricorder being the Tilt?
-Jay

My first Pocket PC was ipaq 3970 and loved it then when I got my HTC Blue Angel it was like falling in love lol
Wasn't too impressed with M3100 after the BlueAngel but once i got my kaiser all i can say is WOW!
Regards
MM
PS Hope you enjoyed my tale of Love lol!
PPS Dont tell my Mrs too be!

I'm another Kaiser's lover!
My first pda was the ipaq 6915 (now in the hands of mum ) and i tought it was almost the top...
but when i tryed the Tytn II, during a trip in Oporto...it was love at first sight!
And now i'm proud to be a Tytn II owner

Here are some more fun things I do (and you can do) with your Kaiser:
Work on word, ppt, excel documents.
Listen to music (MP3 player).
Listen to XMRadio (if you are a subscriber).
Watch TV (using a Slingbox at home).
Use it to navigate (Iuse NAV4ALL).
Display satellite imagery at your location while hiking and off-roading.
Tether your laptop and watch Dr. Who episodes (Netflix) while camping.
Listen to Neal Bortz on AM750 WSB even when a thousand miles from home (webcast).
Store and read PDF manuals for all your toys.
Transfer files between work and home computers.
Get push email from both work and home.
Oh yeah, every now and then people actually call me on the thing!
I could go on and on...
Pete

what games do you play?

plfinch said:
Use it to navigate (Iuse NAV4ALL).
Pete
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Can you tell me about your experiences with NAV4ALL? Accuracy and responsiveness on the TYTN II? Any bugs or problems?

Lets see.....
Atari Portolio (Handheld PC XT clone) + Motorola brick + Rand McNally Atlas
Apple Newton + Motorola flip + Rand McNally Atlas
Palm Pilots + Nokia phones + Garmin GPS III
HP Windows CE (multiple) + Nokia phones + Garmin GPS III+
Blackberries (multiple) +Garmin GPS V
Palm Treo 700W + Garmin Rino
HTC TyTn + Garmin Rino
HTC Kaiser.....
Only one charger needed for travel and I'm a happy camper. If there's a connection to be had, I can use it. I seldom take my laptop on road trips anymore. The best part is I haven't retyped my phone book in over 20 years! I wish I'd kept all of those old units... It would make a neat display.

I would not over state "the best purchase of my life"
Even though it offers a lot, our hunger for more,better and faster remains.
Yes, despite it's lack of PMM future, I do like this gadget. Do not get me wrong.
I hardly call it a phone, it just does not make coffee yet. it does offer a lot and with all extra applications and games installed, it is truly amazing and versatile.
I have the (bad) habit to "upgrade"each 3 months (at full charge) So, I found out I bought in the last 18 months some 8 phones including iPhone, Samsung I718,Samsung D 900, Motorola Ming, Moto Razr V8, Tytn I, Tytn II, , combined +5000 US...
None could do what the TytnII promissed too.
I bought the Tytn II having a One-fits-all solution and we are near, very near. if the Cam and Vid would have been Ok, I would claimed it was indeed my best purchase (untill now)

does coretcpmcp work with .wmv local video files?
please advise.
tvos

I recently purchased the iPhone after going through 3 tilts since Oct 25(my bday that's why I remember)...I actually like the iPhone UI better...but the programs go to the tilt

well.. i do too.. i love my kaiser =).. my TyTN II overpriced but works great..
games suck.. well.. emulators... (snes, gba,) but for work.. or homework.. or just calling.. its great..

Another Kaiser Lover
Amen, I agree! I believe the Kaisers been the best purchase I've ever done as well, money worth spent! I know people have been complaining about its Video capabilities, and I know they are right, but the kaiser is just so much more than Video!
One quick question though, what do you guys use to convert DVD's into Kaiser friendly formats? And what settings?!

Agree
Yep
I m proud of my kaiser too...
Its do all what i want..except for the camera/video recording...but its works great in outday at daytime...
and its the best my first PPC and the best PPC i ever had...

HTC Touch HD ROM porting to shift?

Hi @all,
Is anybody thinking about porting the WM 6.1 ROM from HTC Touch HD to HTC Shift?
Maybe we can use the Touch Pro ROM to extend the key features on shift?
;-)
Is only a crazy brainstorm ;-)

Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.

thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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I thought that was some "Bios lock feature the problem, and not a driver problem crippling the shift... do you know something more about this driver?
...maybe, it wasn't a great idea giving the SHIFT to my uncles in York...

thaihugo said:
Yeah, that would be so creazy
Actually, this is not an OS problem crippling the shift but a driver problem. Porting a diamond rom is easy to do, but doesn't bring anything new, and takes more rom space.
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Yes, you are right. It is something to do with Drivers, otherwise liberation would not show complete WinMo.
Thanks
Ram

I successfully ported the SYS from a diamond rom. It gives some better interface, but what is really linking to the phone is the OEMdirvers section. This one cannot be imported from let's say a Kaiser, because the phone look for a sim door for example. So it means new drivers must be found and adapted for the phone, the Wifi and the Xvga screen.
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.

thaihugo said:
For SD and BT, I think drivers are more or less standard, but as I said in another post, something like the embeded controler is locking it on the vista side.
This is many different sides to work on. I think once the embeded controler (or whatever it is) lock is removed, we will find BT and SD.
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May be I should put my cycles of effort there.
Thanks
Ram

uiui ;-)
I see... hmm.. my idea was only Windows Mobile 6.1 from a Touch pro for test the integration on Windows Server 2008 and Exchange 2007 on a "big device"
crazy.. driver problems between SD, BT and WLAN. Maybe, the additional Hardware is build on second Hardware Device (for windows use)..
Don´t have any a hardware Layer circuit of the Shift?
I think the only way for porting a WM 6.1 with all features is - to enable the SD Card reader. Maybe (when it works) we can modify with some registry tweaks the SD Memory card as "Virtual ROM".
Sometimes i ask me, whynot I can swap out easily the PIM Database to SD on other HTC Devices. Our Users are Power Users, and the most of them kill the internal memory with they big powerpoint slides... ;-)

If this is what you need, I think I can cook something and post it. But it is not optimized for space.

Hi Thai,
thank you, but don´t make to much if we found a solution to enable the SD Card slot as additional (and standalone WM) drive we have all features open. I think that is the best way, but where are the experts for this?
A other Idea: Maybe the X7510 Advantage ROM is fits more to Shifts Hardware Specs?
maybe there are drivers for SD Card Slot?
Puhh..

B/Tooth, WiFi and SD access are the big gems...shame we're not there yet...

is not a shame
Remember that the Shift is very expensive and the people that can buy this almost not be delicious hackers or developers and the other: there are not so much devices on the market like standard products like Tytn that sells over mobile operators ;-)
sadly, as I see the shift at the Cebit I stopped my ordering. But what the hell driven me, as I order the shift last week again. (I start with a X7510, test it, and think.. poor... so on, sell it again and buy a shift)
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
the only really way for all other not working features is, to enable first the SD Card slot. All other comes from alone I think. If teh Shift Users can
porting some apps to SD Card, then it makes much mor fun to hack the Shift (if it possible

joy.d said:
Hmm.. I think, i have buyed all nice to have devices of HTC the last 6-7 years.. But now I think it is enough. Always I thinK: WoW, the next Smartphone or PDA must be better.. than I buy it, and see -- hmmm.. ahhh .. ohh.. hmm .. not really better, only a bit
hehe, I must become a special pricing for testing from HTC ;-)
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You just sounded like me. My first mobile from HTC brand was Blue Angle (Siemens SX66) and I still have it in the attic. Next were Four Wizards. I have give one to my brother, one to a friend and two are with me. One of them my son uses as a entertainment center in the car. He carries all his favorite music and emulated games always and I think for a 4 year old it is great. The fourth one is in the attic eating dust. I bought Audiovox 5600 and then Cingular 2125 for my wife and now she uses iPhone 3G. I still feel iPhone is for novice phone users, who just want to use fancy smartphone. No issues with it. My office phone runs on 8525 (hermes) and my personal runs on Tilt. I want to upgrade 8525 to something like a Personal Business Center, so bought shift with hope that we could have voice and SD enabled sometime.
I had BenQ P50 for soemtime and I felt that it was great until I saw Wizard and felt what I was missing and sold it. It was rugged machine, I cannot play around it. It is sealed. I become addicted to HTC phones. My next upgrade (8525 replacement would be Touch HD or Sony X1 or W1). I am not sure at this moment though. I also have Everun with broadband interface (Novatel pci express card). It is a very good piece. I want to retire it, once I get Shift fully functional, then I will drop the ide of buying into HTC for sometime at least and invest that money somewhere else.
Thanks
Ram

ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)

joy.d said:
ui, that sounds like me We are far (away) brothers I start first with a Apple Newton, the most of all Palms, some psions, then later some Windows Mobile Handhelds and some PDA´s like Casio E Series.. Then i merged Casio E100 with Siemens S45 mobile phone end of 2000, and talk with some Siemens managers, and then they build the SX45 ;-) (to late) the first PPC with Mobile.. But this all is yesterday... later then HP IPAQ´s, and all branded or not branded nice to have models of HTC..
Puhh. ;-) I think, that "was" my own flat.. but other: so can many friendly hightech computer people
;-)
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Exactly. . You will see old HP Jornada (very first Pocket PC), HP Handheld (LX320), iPAQ 3855, iPAQ 310 (GPS companion), iPAQ rx5915 (another GPS) and ASUS R2H, RAON VEGA, Samsung Q1 in addition to 4 to 5 computers at my home. I already have donated few old PCs. I have given my old ViewSonic V1100 to my nephew. He uses it as an entertainment system while traveling and carries his computer games and some cartoons.
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Ram

Crazy the most same by me
And your´re feel always not empty, with your dreams about the pocket (PC) in the trousers? ;-)

the Touch HD internals Name is blackstone.
See:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=451

see now our Hope ))
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=448112

Just sold my kaiser

Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.

how much you sell it for? I'm selling mine so i can get the Crackberry Bold.

yea
i'm curious

sold it to my roomate for 200

HAW Haw!!! Your roomate got sloppy seconds!

sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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How could you do that to us!? I thought what we had was special
Good luck with your G1 man!

sodenrox said:
Well after about a year of use i just parted with my kaiser, i think i'm gonna cry.. time to move on to the G1 thread.
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Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?

udi1 said:
Good for you can you explain the motivation? i mean what can we get from G1 that is better than the kaiser?
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Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.

$200?!?!?
Jeez - I paid $50 for it new at AT&T last November when it came out (gotta LOVE those rebates).

NuShrike said:
Probably stunted machine currently but actually supported by Google with a lot of regular future upgrades -- drivers too! Can't beat that.
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I wonder how it performs as far as smooth video playback is concerned (compared to the Kaiser using Windows Pocket Media Player 10.3). Not because I'm interested in getting a G1 (just like the Touch Pro, I believe it doesn't have the tilting screen of the TyTN II) but because I want to know just what the hardware is capable of in terms of processing power when proper drivers are used.

sold my tytn II also
It never worked as i hoped and expected. . .
my old ipaq 2210 did a better job showing video's and recorded tv shows.
that 's one big reason to sell for me.
the lag when ending a phonecall and screen rotating with sms did the rest.
I like the looks of the new touch HD but that seems also lagging and is not able to play video in its native resolution so it looks like more of the same but then in a higher resolution.
calling it HD and not been able to play native resolution video?
i lost my confidence in HTC for their lack in proper 2D and 3D drivers with my TYTN II, and will not travel the same road with their HD. . . . . .
A standard gsm will do for now, awaiting newer OS and Hardware.
XDA rocks tho!

Paml Pre- Anyone got one?

Anybody get a pre? I've seen one really great review of it and one kind of crummy review, very curious about getting this phone for my wife. Any recommendations on a good site (the XDA-Dev's for PalmPre)?? Thanks!!

not sure, but i dont believe HTC is manufacturing the pre
XDA = HTC phones.
again, not sure, if it is manufactured by HTC there would probably already be a section on the forum devoted to the pre.
I have heard a lot of good things about the phone.
only 2 cons so far: small keyboard, and programs lag a little.
other then that, Its a great looking phone, with new innovative GUI

I don't think I would be able to use the small keyboard. I can barely use the one on the Treo Pro, and the one on the Centro is too small for me... and I have relatively small hands!

Yeah, I know there won't be a section here as it is most definitely NOT an HTC device, hence my posting in off-topic. I was jut wondering if anyone knew what the best Palm forum is.
I've heard from another member of the forums here who has one that there are some hardware probs with the phone, dead pixels and bad overheating problems. First run Blackstones had similar issues so we'll see if this doesn't get straightened out in the next shipment. I'm not too worried about the small keyboard as my wife has doll hands and long nails anyway ;-)

Best bet is Precentral.net
Its not nearly as robust as XDA in regards to the manipulating and hacking of the device (possibly cause its just brand new) but its probably the biggest Pre / WebOS focused message board at the moment.

Yep i have red this is a crap
A piece of crap... is the way that many people has referred about the new PALM Pre.. why? i dont know, but I think its not powerfull than other device from PALM or HTC, but, does this palm have WinMo? maybe this feature can make it a little stronger.
I saw a few videos and i cant remember about it, cause it doesnt matters to me... Palm doesnt matter for who is a HTC user, you know...
BTW that litle qwerty seems to be for a kid... they are very happy cause the edge of the device is soft... what an amazing development!!!!
Well let us know if anyone has a little toy like that.

There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466

I might be getting one after some of the initial updates and bugs are worked out. 2 of my friends have one and they seem to like it so far comparted to their HTC TP.

zeo2k said:
There should be a Pre section on this site...I dont see why now. There's 2 for the Palm Treo's:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=321
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=466
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That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum

orb3000 said:
That´s because that models were manufactured by HTC and Pre won´t so it won´t have it´s section on this forum
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Makes sense...Thanks

I played around withh it for a bit an the keyboard is soft and hard, but maybe your wife's doll hands will be fine lol
The web browsing is great. And I like that it's slim. Other than that, I like my Pro. And I don't know of any other issues. though. Good luck!

I do have to say that the Pre UI is pretty sweet. I hope the Android team takes not and realizes that the built in apps can also look good. As noted a few posts back, the Pre does have a bit of lag when you launch new apps, but the card manager works great for switching once they are open.
I have to say that I love the hardware design of the thing. reminds me a lot of the HTC Touch Dual. I hope HTC brings back the Duals form factor in a new Android handset.

I played with one today at the Sprint store...
The keyboard is better than I expected, better than the Treo Pro, much better than the Centro...
There is a "slight" lag when opening applications, but it doesn't seem to be with all applications.
The card interface is really cool and works great!

I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.

ace10134 said:
I have a Pre, so I would know stuff:
The in-store Pre's are running demo software, so they will have more lag than the real model
There is no file explorer - This is a huge change from what were used to on Windows Mobile, lol, but you don't necessarily need it.
Multitasking is AMAZING! Nothing can match it. Using Turn-by-Turn GPS while streaming Pandora in the car is seamless and works just as you'd expect.
The app store, well, give it time!
EXCHANGE: If you're exchange server doesn't use a SSL connection, then you're screwed. Palm has to release an update before this will ever work. Trust me, there's no other solution.
Synergy - I wouldn't know how well this works because I can't connect my Exchange server, which pretty much defeats the purpose.
Overall, I'd say that for your wife, the Pre would be perfect. It's like an iPhone, but you can do wayy more. It's not Windows Mobile though, so don't expect a bunch of functionality. But this phone works perfectly for what you want it for. Everything just works the way you would expect, like how the phone wont lock the screen unless you put it in your pocket (brilliant!)
But watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9uNABNcCoY It's an Opera Mini vs Palm Pre browser comparison video. Opera Mini smokes the Pre, lol.
So I would say, get the Pre for your wife. Everything is soo seamless on the Pre and works so nicely. If you want to be an advanced user, then WinMo (or Android maybe) is for you.
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I didn't know about the lock in the pocket things, that's really cool
My sever is SSL, so I'm fine there.
And, of course Opera Mini wins, the Pre is doing all the work itself...

HTC did make PALMpre...i remember when it was announce back in january...i have to say it is a very solid and good device and i love winmo phone, current xperia, touch pro, and HTC HD user. Palmpre WEBos impressed me i would pick one up when a gsm version release. I believe this device took whats good with winmo and iphone and combined it together very well and have lots of room to improve as well...one thing i notice about it that is bad is the battery...make sure you read up on the tweaks n so on so you can conserve battery but most people say it dies out very quickly i dunno if its the way they using it or not but i used a unit for 2 days and still have 50 percent battery...i say your wife would love this device and make a fan out of u

They support non-SSL exchange now

derekwilkinson said:
They support non-SSL exchange now
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No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.

ace10134 said:
No they don't. Did they release an update?? Or is there a link to a thread that hacked it? Cuz last time I checked, they didn't update it and that was the only way.
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Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....

derekwilkinson said:
Umm. Yes.
http://kb.palm.com/wps/portal/kb/na...ions/article/50607_en.html#N066192D0.0665F218
...Non-SSL Exchange ActiveSync (EAS) mail servers are now supported....
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Thanks! I'm gonna check for updates now! (Next time, it'd be nice if you described your post a little more, but thanks soo much!)
Exchange Works On Pre Without SSL Now!! Yay!

windows phone 7 my feeling

I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent

frankiedizzle87 said:
I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7

frankiedizzle87 said:
..... the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this.
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to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards

No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os

frankiedizzle87 said:
No no no u missed the point of my post. Do u own a WP 7? Being that I owned all three phones I can state I like the feel and potential of this OS no Microsoft didn't send me just tired of writers hating on the os but fact of the matter is that its a brand new os let it grow. I read its a dead OS today... How cause its in competition.. Well when Android came out it had to compete with IOS and windows mobile. It did fine so will this u tell me what's wrong with the os
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dont pay attention to them, they are just fandroids

A probably so. It felt right to give respect to a fun nice and cool OS like my home screen is so animated

husam666 said:
Did Microsoft send you!?
I know you're a rat..
jk
this the first time some one who likes wp7
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souljaboy said:
to me it sounds like ur 1 phone os far from realising theres nothing that would satisfy ur bi**y attitude and the problem is in you , so ur just trying to hold on a lame os which isnt good even by your own judgement(notice the "will"-s , a sign of wishful thinking) your hoping it gets magically perfect a day which isnt gonna happen , and ull utimately be faced by your sad self with your unreasonable standards
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go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family and seismic is a great twitter app. Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.

frankiedizzle87 said:
I have had my LG quantum for about two months now and couldn't be happier. I had an iPhone 4 and had gotten in a car accident and every call I mad to my insurance..... Disconnected I had to use someone BlackBerry who was also on att in order to get the proper assitence. So I sold my iPhone and got a Samsung galaxy s device.... It go so boring switching roms and the atrocious line up of apps in the app store got extremely annoying I couldn't any apps that were even near iPhone quality with being an app that I already owned on the iPhone and being that angry birds was their best game.... Waist of my time and by the way the phone I had was the Samsung captivate.
so windows phone 7 came out and I was like why not. I've tried everything else and was barley satisfied so I got the LG Quantum and boy am I pleased. Yea no copy and paste but the OS is amazingly smooth unlike my captivate and the games are what I look for fun and graphically acceptable. Not stupid jokes I wish the twitter app was better but the xbl integration is a work of art. I think I purchased like 12 games and for the most part I am happy.the OS will continue to develop and improve just like everything else. I remember in 08 when I had my g1 or was it 09.... Anyway I read in an article that the os would die because not enough devices or devs.... Well look at Android now. WP 7 is similar just needs a little support and it will blow up because its an amazing os and I'm using my quantum right now to right this. Smooth and quick. So yea I didn.t know where to write this so I did it here thanks for letting me vent
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Wp7's UI is different, but I don't think it's beautiful. Besides, Wp7 has been out for a short time, so it has many shortcomings

I have tested it on my Leo for a couple of days and despite it´s nice I decided to go back to WM/Non NAND Android combo which is the best for me.
If you want to read my personal review here it is.

nrfitchett4 said:
go figure, someone posts something positive about wp7, and the android fanbois come running. I think they search the forum with terms like wp7 and focus.
I love my hd7, facebook integration means I actually check on my friends and family
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Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
nrfitchett4 said:
and seismic is a great twitter app.
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No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
nrfitchett4 said:
Sounds like IE is getting its own update very soon separate from wp7 updates (according to one of the MS engineers, he said to look for it in between the update coming and mango), and after mango, what will be missing? The only stuff I find annoying is that 3rd party apps can't run in the background yet, so opening links in twitter apps, takes you out of the app and sometimes you lose your place in the timeline.
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Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
nrfitchett4 said:
The multimedia experience on this device has been so much better than winmo or android.
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Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.

How dare you call me a fandroid

well, i guess i'm a ''fandroid'' (wtf? is that supposed to be an insult?) but i have no problem with wp7.

hungry81 said:
Its called getting your own life. Besides most smartphones can check facebook OHHH wow!!!
No twitter app is great, unless you are one of the marketers milking the sad twitter addicts. OMG GREG IS TAKING A DUMP !!!!! RIGHT NOW !!!1!!11 OMG! Besides Most other smartphones have twitter apps.
Wow. That means ABSOLUTELY nothing. Keep on rambling tho. you might actually say something legitimate and interesting about wp7.
Nope not yet, but you will get there. Sounds like you should have spent your money on a real smart phone. Not a wanabe iphone.
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C'mon man how is it an iPhone wanna be? U sound stupid so any smartphone that takes a simplistic user friendly approach is a smartphone wanna be? Ur an idiot

I am a neutral person.
So before anyone shoots childish insults at me, I don't give a damn about them
In my honest opinion I have had and handled all three of the mobile OS and I believe each has their advantages and disadvantages, as all things in life nothing is perfect.
iOS: Alittle too closed off for my tastes. I enjoy a few of the apps on there but for everyone who says that the Android market has stupid apps...guess what??? SO DOES APPLE! I have seen soo many stupid ass repetitive zombie apps on there I was sick. On top of that it doesn't allow SD support, which is also a personal problem, I don't like that you have to rely on Apple's App store to download and control your apps. Aside from that it is a nice OS if you jailbreak it and mod it yourself.
Windows Mobile: Well, this was my first mobile OS honestly. I enjoyed the ROM support on it but when it came to the app department you needed to have a freaking treasure hunt just to find a decent game haha You could also have a decent amount of customization because you can change the registry and such and whatnot, but it was a lot easier to screw up and have problems with the OS.
Android: I have been using this OS ever since I got my HD2 haha I agree with the retarded apps in the market but it's easy to pick out the good ones from the retarded ones, in my opinion. When it comes to apps as well you can easily download and install an .apk from online or store it on your sd card instead of having to rely on the market to dominate your every move. I also think Android is the best one for customization, with iOS you can't even change your keyboard, you always get the same dull crap, wm is a little better but you can't really adjust your home without adding more programs on top of programs, using more memory than you really should just for one thing. Plus...flash, enough said.
Windows Phone 7: I have seen, touched, played with and borrowed a WP7, I do not like it. I didn't have it in my possession for an entirely large amount of time so I can't say much about it. Yes the WP7 is new and developing still but so was Android, and honestly even when Android matured what happened to it overall? Speed? A little bit of change in the look of it? I do not see too much noticeable change coming from it in the long run, just a few tweaks here or there. Some people call them Iphone wannabes...so do I. I believe that Jobs and Gates wanted to compete to see whose phone can be the most restrictive and simplistic. And again with iPhone as well, with simplicity comes beauty, yes it looks nice, but you can't really do sh*t to it besides adding live tiles...which isn't all that impressive. I believe that the WP7 is basically a Microsoft version of iOS. PLUS! You can't even put a freaking SD card into the phone without taking it apart and having it formatted to your device and losing all of your data on there.
Hate it or love it that is my opinion on these different OSs.

husam666 said:
How dare you call me a fandroid
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Guys, he has a WM Touch Pro 2...how the HELL can he be a fandroid??

THread was fun thanks for coming
Sent from my LG-C900 using Board Express

Windows 7 is a big hit.
Windows 7 Mobile is a big flop.

I'm going back to my brick nokia and playing original snake fucj everything else
Swyped from my HTC HD2 using tapatalk

but but....
whats wrong with windows phone 7?
i mean... its a pleasently fast and fine OS
you can almost do all sorts of things just like all other smartphones
except that it has 'less apps on the marketplace or whatever you call it
well... at least it doesnt have those useless apps where you basically "drink" beer/air or "shave" nothing or idk what you name it... yet
but lets say... why not give this new fella os some room for growth instead of hating it from the very first day? fan boys jks
cheers and have a nice day

Coming from a WM6 / 6.5 background - at first I found WM7 frustrating. (I've only had the phone a few days).
Initially the whole idea of having ALL contacts in one place completely freaked me out. Then I realised the O/S is sensible enough to only offer phone contacts when messaging / calling. Luckily most of my FB 'friends' haven't added phone contact details - but when they do, I'll be back to being slightly screwed on that front. Having de-duped and linked accounts, things don't seem so bad ... but I still think having overall groupings for contacts would help me in the long run. (I haven't seen what's due in any updates, so it's something that may be coming).
Asides from the Zune-like interface, the one thing that is frustrating me most is the lack of RDP software. I used that a lot on my XDA zest.
Oh, and not supporting custom ring-tones out of the box is annoying too. Like with any MS O/S, you just have to get used to it....
So far though I'm thinking it's working faster / better for me than 6.5 was with few issues, so I'm fairly happy about it.