Yes, I know, another GPS thread. Not ideal, but search won't allow 'GPS'.
Plus I have searched 'manually' through alot of threads but to no avail. I still have a problem with my GPS. Basically, I can't get any GPS reception. I've tried different ROMs, radios, hard resets, soft resets, updated QuickGPS, run GPS Test, taken battery out, everything I think! I just have nothing. On GPS Test, all I have is a screen showing:
'GPS Starting Up' (Fix 1D, HDOP 0.00)
It just stays on that screen FOREVER. I'm beginning to think I might have a hardware problem.
Can anyone suggest any ways to test the GPS further? I know it's a pain having another GPS thread, but I really didn't know what else to do.
Hope someone has some sort of solution.
P.S. Note to mods: maybe enable 3 letter word searches? Some words are crucial, such as GPS, sim, etc.
In the gps settings on gps test have you changed the baud rate to 4800
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In the gps settings on gps test have you changed the baud rate to 4800
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yes. i've tried all the baud rates just to be sure. I also get no response in Google Maps. Just nothing. It's detecting that I have a GPS unit integrated into the device, but no signals are being picked up. Does the fact GPS Test is stuck on 'GPS Starting up' signify anything? It seems strange it doesn't say 'Cannot connect to any satellites', or something similar. Or is 'GPS Starting up' the same as saying that? I'm just totally lost.
I should have said, I have been trying this outdoors as well. Not indoors.
Now, this is an extremely long shot. I just checked my battery and my phone. My phone is marked (under where the battery would be) as a DIAM100. The battery is marked as DIAM160. I've seen on the forum before different numbers like this meaning different things, and also different batteries creating GPS problems. Anyone ahve any idea about this? It's so frustrating!
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Now, this is an extremely long shot. I just checked my battery and my phone. My phone is marked (under where the battery would be) as a DIAM100. The battery is marked as DIAM160. I've seen on the forum before different numbers like this meaning different things, and also different batteries creating GPS problems. Anyone ahve any idea about this? It's so frustrating!
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Well to answer your question above my phone also states its a DIAM100 and the battery also states DIAM160 and my GPS works flawlessly.
I dont really know what to suggest to you.
Hope there is someone in this forum that can help.
Good luck
Clean install, QuickGPS data, then run GPS Test...
When you are running GPS Test after a clean install with updated data from QuickGPS only do you get any bars at all? Typically you start with nothing, then yellow bars pop up (and disappear....) eventually turning to green. Need at least 3 green bars to get a decent fix....
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When you are running GPS Test after a clean install with updated data from QuickGPS only do you get any bars at all? Typically you start with nothing, then yellow bars pop up (and disappear....) eventually turning to green. Need at least 3 green bars to get a decent fix....
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I'm not getting anything. It just stays on the 'GPS Starting up' display. No bars, nothing.
I has the same problems with setting up GPS after flashing with various ROMS. The answer was found within these forums, can't remember who but credit to you, simply back up your settings and hard reset. After I did this GPS has worked flawlessly getting a fix in under a minute. Hope this helps.
Forgot to mention AGPS is turned off using Advanced Configuration, available from this forum, and using CoPilot 7.
I've already Hard-resetted multiple time on multiple roms. I'm just getting nothing. AGPS is already off too.
Flash with another ROM... hard reset after FLASHING.... and then start HTC_GPS_TOOL
Last resort, then warrenty return I suspect
If it has never worked since new then it sounds like flaw with the device, and perhaps a return to store...very unlucky. Last resort might be to change your Hard-SPL but thats getting desperate
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Flash with another ROM... hard reset after FLASHING.... and then start HTC_GPS_TOOL
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What should I be seeing in HTC_GPS_TOOL? It is all very confusing. Lots of numbers and stuff. Seems to be repeating a five line sequence. Doesn't seem to be linking to any satellites.
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What should I be seeing in HTC_GPS_TOOL? It is all very confusing. Lots of numbers and stuff. Seems to be repeating a five line sequence. Doesn't seem to be linking to any satellites.
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With HTC Gps tool you can make a "cold reboot" of your gps. This means it removes any data in the gps. - Do that, go outside and wait for 10 minuttes. This usualy works for me.
You can get the gps tool on my homepage www.maritime-billeder.dk/htc-diamond.html
Could you possibly give me a step-by-step process of making the cold reboot? Thanks.
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Could you possibly give me a step-by-step process of making the cold reboot? Thanks.
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Using HTC GPS Tool (latest version best), in the menus select Q7200 for chip, 4800 baud, and COLD restart of GPS....have you had this issue from new? Has the GPS ever worked on your device?
Nothing was working. Getting a new handset from Orange tomorrow.
GPS same problem
evilskanker, I have exactly the same problem. the user "pietrucci" on this forum also sent his device for repairs as nothing helped, not even flashing everything back to stock.
this is SO frustrating and if I can't get it to work I'll never flash any **** like this on my device again.
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Using HTC GPS Tool (latest version best), in the menus select Q7200 for chip, 4800 baud, and COLD restart of GPS....have you had this issue from new? Has the GPS ever worked on your device?
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Which version is the latest of HTC GPS Tool, I was supprised to see you have chip model selection which I don't have. Mine is exactly looks like this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOesPtnXP9o
Is mine the old one? No wonder I couldn't get cold start working.
But how come the version you have doesn't have "clear memory" option?
I'm going to give a shot with your version tomorrow since it is too cloudy outside tonight.
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is anyone else having massive gps problems?
tomtom is setup correctly to use the internal gps but it either tries connecting forever and getting nowhere, or it eventually picks up 1 satelite and thinks im in canada..
I've just put on dutty's rom but was having problems before also.
any ideas?
If you read the instructions...
You have to run GPSTEST first, to lock on, then minimize, then tomtom
Try it outdoors. No, really!
Been playing with TomTom for the first time today. Tried all day at work and it wouldn't work - kept coming up "No GPS Device" at first then switched to "Waiting for Valid GPS Data" or something. Anyway, kept trying with QuickGPS on, put the phone by the window, come back 10 minutes later and still "Awaiting". After 2 hours, gave up. Tried switching the TomTom on in the car on the way home, and within a minute it was happily directing me home (correctly).
Turns out the best advice I've read is "USE IT OUTDOORS OR IN THE CAR." I just thought I knew better and that a large window on the 3rd floor was just as good. Turns out it's not - and I'm an idiot for thinking I knew better than the experts here!!
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Been playing with TomTom for the first time today. Tried all day at work and it wouldn't work - kept coming up "No GPS Device" at first then switched to "Waiting for Valid GPS Data" or something. Anyway, kept trying with QuickGPS on, put the phone by the window, come back 10 minutes later and still "Awaiting". After 2 hours, gave up. Tried switching the TomTom on in the car on the way home, and within a minute it was happily directing me home (correctly).
Turns out the best advice I've read is "USE IT OUTDOORS OR IN THE CAR." I just thought I knew better and that a large window on the 3rd floor was just as good. Turns out it's not - and I'm an idiot for thinking I knew better than the experts here!!
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I have no problem using the GPS inside my apartment sitting on my couch.
GPSTEST just sits with "GPS starting up"..
and like I said, I was having problems before duttys rom.
its absolutly pissing down outside now so it could be that.. but I havnt been able to use tomtom for a few days (including out in the car) so any other ideas?
Are you using the version of TomTom that supports the internal GPS? because if you aren't it won't find the GPS signal.
yes, and I have it configured to use it correctly.. (com4, 4800bps)
so it seems it might have just been the ****ty weather and me being indoors... its all good again
tyeo098 said:
If you read the instructions...
You have to run GPSTEST first, to lock on, then minimize, then tomtom
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you dont have to minimize it, you can run, lock in, and then close it, then open TomTom...
Also, do not, i repeat, DO NOT play with the external GPS configurations, it can permanently mess up your GPS, and only way to fix it is hard reset...even if you put the settings back to default, it will mess it up...i remember reading this info on the forums, im sure it still applies...but ya said its working so good for you!
oo and also make sure you dont cover the GPS antenna in the back or you will lose signal or get weak signal...
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Also, do not, i repeat, DO NOT play with the external GPS configurations, it can permanently mess up your GPS, and only way to fix it is hard reset...even if you put the settings back to default, it will mess it up...i remember reading this info on the forums, im sure it still applies...but ya said its working so good for you!
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sounds like what happened... live and learn
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sounds like what happened... live and learn
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well said lol
iv just downloaded the latest tomtom, and its put a badge/icon on my today screen. AFAIK it doesnt actually do anything, it cant be clicked on or selected, and as a result id like to get rid of it.
iv tried going through the Tomtom settings, checking the today\items and deleting it from the registry under software\microsoft\todays\items but none of it gets rid of it.
Does anyone have a way of doing it?
cheers
You need to *uncheck* the Tomtom box in the today screen options and that icon will then only be accessible from the start menu. Thats what I did with my TyTN II and it works perfectly. If the box is checked you'll get that icon on the today screen.
BTW, if you're using the recently released HTC WM 6.1 update with HTCs Navigator 6.032 are you finding GPS performance to be much worse than before the upgrade (slow fixes and wild fluctuations in GPS reception bars even when stationary)?
thanks for the reply, ill give it a go.
Im a new tom tom & 6.1 user (just flashed one of duttys), so dont have any previous experience to compare it with, sorry.
I'm finding the Tom Tom (and other GPS apps) to be worse after the upgrade unfortunately - it's the only fault I can find with the new ROM. The problem for me is just the first fix after any soft reset - it always takes an age (up 10-15 minutes) which I'm sure wasn't the case before.
Subsequent fixes (after closing and later re-opening TT or another GPS program) are always much quicker, within 30 seconds even, so obviously once it's been initialised once it's fine, until the next soft reset when you're back to square one.
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I'm finding the Tom Tom (and other GPS apps) to be worse after the upgrade unfortunately - it's the only fault I can find with the new ROM. The problem for me is just the first fix after any soft reset - it always takes an age (up 10-15 minutes) which I'm sure wasn't the case before.
Subsequent fixes (after closing and later re-opening TT or another GPS program) are always much quicker, within 30 seconds even, so obviously once it's been initialised once it's fine, until the next soft reset when you're back to square one.
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do you download the quickgps data after the soft reset, i believe that doesnt save when you do a soft reset, and the first lock you get from GPS, will be remembered and make it easier for the future connections.
I never have a problem with GPS connections, only tomtom and its poorly slow application refresh.
AFAIK it downloads in the background on a regular basis still, whenever I'm plugged into the PC at work (which is most of the working day) - whenever I check it, it always claims to be up to date, anyway. But I agree the behaviour is as if that data isn't there anymore... peculiar.
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I'm finding the Tom Tom (and other GPS apps) to be worse after the upgrade unfortunately - it's the only fault I can find with the new ROM.
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Then you're lucky! Mine now locks up regularly (2 or 3 times a day) and it never used to before the up?grade.
The problem for me is just the first fix after any soft reset - it always takes an age (up 10-15 minutes) which I'm sure wasn't the case before.
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Although this part also applies to me, even after getting a fix, if I shut it down while I'm moving and start it up again after a couple of minutes its still much slower than it used to be in the same locations under WM 6.0
I'll email HTC and Tomtom about it as it's clear there's now a problem.
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You need to *uncheck* the Tomtom box in the today screen options and that icon will then only be accessible from the start menu. Thats what I did with my TyTN II and it works perfectly. If the box is checked you'll get that icon on the today screen.
BTW, if you're using the recently released HTC WM 6.1 update with HTCs Navigator 6.032 are you finding GPS performance to be much worse than before the upgrade (slow fixes and wild fluctuations in GPS reception bars even when stationary)?
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Just posted this in L26's Diamond rom V4 thread..
Altough V5 is ready any minute, hope it's that fast as well
Geo_Ros said:
I'd like to share, I've never had a rom that has such a fast fix with GPS
Cold, a fix in 17 seconds!!!!!!!! Hot, 14 seconds!
7 blue and 2 grey connections
additional info: TomTom 6.010D), pagepool set to 18mb, radio that comes with the rom.
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Then you're lucky! Mine now locks up regularly (2 or 3 times a day) and it never used to before the up?grade.
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If you ever used HardSPL (or possibly even if you didn't) you probably need to flash the new HTC SPL - see the thread over in ROM development. It cured all the freezing issues for me.
I'll email HTC and Tomtom about it as it's clear there's now a problem.
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I'm pretty sure it's an HTC issue, since I have the same problems using GPS in MS Live Search too. Unfortunately there's not much point in me emailing them, because mine is officially Vodafone branded and they don't support it.
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If you ever used HardSPL (or possibly even if you didn't) you probably need to flash the new HTC SPL - see the thread over in ROM development. It cured all the freezing issues for me.
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Thanks for the tip. I'm the old school sort who believes the hardware provider should be responsible for fixing things, hence why I'll write when I get the time but I may try this later if I get annoyed enough! I've never installed HardSPL and this official HTC upgrade was the first flash I've subjected my TyTN II to.
I'm pretty sure it's an HTC issue, since I have the same problems using GPS in MS Live Search too. Unfortunately there's not much point in me emailing them, because mine is officially Vodafone branded and they don't support it.
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In the end the buck stops with HTC and as they are responsible for my phone, I'll remember other branded users are also depending on a fix from them when I write.
I have used the TD with a golf navigation programme (Mobile Golf Scorer). However, using the gps drains the battery, and after just under three hours the battery was empty, the the device 'dead', so I opened it and changed the battery to a a fully charged spare. The device came back on, everything works as usual - EXCEPT the gps which can no longer get a fix. I tried to get a fix in Google maps (to check that it wasn't some sort of software failure in the golf navigation software), still no luck.
Please, can anyone help!
Try to change the gps settings to:
Port: 4
Baudrate: 19200
My NavigonNavigator 6 works only with 19200.
I sometimes have a problem too that all of a sudden my GPS doesn't get a fix, or simply looses it while driving. Reboot doesn't work. The only way I can get it to work again is with the HTC GPS Tool and give it a cold start.. So I'm going to return it to get it fixed since this happens to me several times a week..
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Try to change the gps settings to:
Port: 4
Baudrate: 19200
My NavigonNavigator 6 works only with 19200.
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Is this port for the hardware or software?
If one is on com 4 which should the other be set to?
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I sometimes have a problem too that all of a sudden my GPS doesn't get a fix, or simply looses it while driving. Reboot doesn't work. The only way I can get it to work again is with the HTC GPS Tool and give it a cold start.. So I'm going to return it to get it fixed since this happens to me several times a week..
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Thanks for the response. I am not sure what you mean by HTC GPS Tool (I am new both to HTC and TD). Would you mind elaborating? Also by 'cold start', do you mean hard reset? Because that was what HTC Support suggested (along with setting speed to 4800, which doesn't work either). But I cannot bear spending another 6-8 hours to reestablish everything, tweaks and all, after a hard reset which would be necessary as Sprite comes up with error messages.
No no, this hasn't got anything to do with a hard reset (thank God lol).
The HTC GPS tool is for download at http://rapidshare.com/files/84815853/Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab and it's discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477 .
In the first screenshot in that thread you can see a drop-down box which says "hot start". What I do is to first click the button "open"... then in the tab "sattelite" my problem gets confirmed (can't see any sattelite then). I go back to the first tab, I click the drop-down box, select "cold start", click Nav. Init. click the button close and immediatly open.... et voila, it works again. Sounds quite complicated, however once you've done it a 1st and 2nd time, it's a piece of cake lol
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No no, this hasn't got anything to do with a hard reset (thank God lol).
The HTC GPS tool is for download at http://rapidshare.com/files/84815853/Nadavi_HTC_GPS_TOOL.cab and it's discussed here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=360477 .
In the first screenshot in that thread you can see a drop-down box which says "hot start". What I do is to first click the button "open"... then in the tab "sattelite" my problem gets confirmed (can't see any sattelite then). I go back to the first tab, I click the drop-down box, select "cold start", click Nav. Init. click the button close and immediatly open.... et voila, it works again. Sounds quite complicated, however once you've done it a 1st and 2nd time, it's a piece of cake lol
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Akito, you are a star. Thank you so much. I will follow your procedure immediately. Thanks again.
Akito - did exactly what you said. Et voila! You are now top of my "owe-you-one"-list. Thaks again.
Here is the situation:
I have the aforementioned phone, bloatware not installed. A couple of days ago I tried using Live Search's GPS function and could not get a lock. AFter that, I had radio issues - icon would switch from E to G to H then show no signal. Spent a majority of the time in the no signal mode. Soft reset, restore using sprite backup, even a hard reset didn't clear it up. Resorted to re-flashing the stock ROM, which cleared the problem. Every time I try using anything that turns GPS on (HTC GPS Tool, TT7, Live Search) I end up with the same problem, only resolved by re-flashing the ROM. And, of course, calling AT&T and asking their "tech support" anything that is actually technical makes their little brains overheat. Seems that they have no idea about doing anything with the GPS other than running TeleNav.
I have not found any posts describing the same problem. I don't know if it is the radio version that is the culprit (1.65.21.18), or perhaps a faulty GPS chip, or what. Perhaps it is time (especially since the phone is no longer under warranty) to either find a cooked ROM (of which the selection is endless) or venture off and make my own (something I currently just don't have the time to learn).
And one other thing... while flshing the third time, the progress bar reached 13%, the phne went back into bootloader, and the SPL number changed. When I started flashing it was 3.56, and after the 13% glitch the SPL showed as 3.02... seemed odd...
Any insight into this is greatly appreciated.
If anyone has any insight into this, it would be greatly appreciated.
I believe this thread is discussing this issue: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=397728
I've been having the same issue as well. The long thread I linked doesn't give much help. The majority of the answers are "use a cooked ROM" - which i'm not interested in.
The other suggestions are to try another program like Quick GPS, and a program called GPStest. Not sure 100% how you use the GPStest to help it, but I boot it up along with Googlemaps when I need a signal.
I've found if I stay still (not moving in car) I can get a lock somewhere between 2-15 minutes - it varies a lot. However, after a cold lock (no soft reset) my connection times are less than 30 seconds.
But I feel your pain - it can take a very very very long time for googlemaps to connect.
Sorry, the issue is not that it takes a long time for GPS to get a lock, it is that it screws up my radio - after activating GPS with any program, my service goes to hell.
As for a cooked ROM, I would rather learn to make my own so I can get it just how I like it, but I barely have the time to scratch myself anymore, let alone start fiddling with that.
Oh sorry, I am guilty of skimming your post.
But on a side note, you should really make time for scratching yourself - It's a necessity that really should not go ignored.
Google Navigation is constantly giving me the "Searching for GPS..." message. Even when I use other navigation programs I still get the same message and the same blinking GPS icon in my status bar.
I have tried a number of things:
Flashed a new ROM (went from Cyan's latest to Dwang)
Reflashed the radio
Flashed the Danger SPL
Flashed Amon RAs Recovery
Nothing worked
There was a time when it worked, but that was a few months ago and I don't remember when it stopped working.
Just so you know I have tried it outdoors on a clear day, and I have reinstalled Maps many times.
If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated.
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Google Navigation is constantly giving me the "Searching for GPS..." message. Even when I use other navigation programs I still get the same message and the same blinking GPS icon in my status bar.
I have tried a number of things:
Flashed a new ROM (went from Cyan's latest to Dwang)
Reflashed the radio
Flashed the Danger SPL
Flashed Amon RAs Recovery
Nothing worked
There was a time when it worked, but that was a few months ago and I don't remember when it stopped working.
Just so you know I have tried it outdoors on a clear day, and I have reinstalled Maps many times.
If anyone has any ideas it would be greatly appreciated.
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Try downloading the GPS status app from the market and see how many satellites your receiver can see. it needs atleast 4 for a good lock, at minumum 3. If your receiver can't see any, it may be defective
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Try downloading the GPS status app from the market and see how many satellites your receiver can see. it needs atleast 4 for a good lock, at minumum 3. If your receiver can't see any, it may be defective
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It cant see any.
Could something like flashing a ROM cause the GPS to become defective?
not likely. are you inside a building when doing this? I seem to recall way back when I first got my G1 in the preorder that we were told to properly calibrate the GPS by going outside, turning the GPS on, setting the phone down for 5-10 mins somewhere that had a clear 360 degree view of the sky and let it go to work. I did exactly that. Over a year later and it takes my GPS less than 10 seconds to drop to a 3m radius, unless I happen to be in a building, and even then its pretty good (I can generally get a 20m lock inside thick buildings like shopping malls, etc).
So give that a shot and see if it calibrates.
Well I left the phone outside for a solid half hour, and it still isnt finding any satellites. Any other ideas?
*EDIT*
I realized what is wrong. A few months ago i PEELED OFF THE GPS ANTENNA!! I just thought it was pointless tape on the back and it was already starting to loose its adhesive, so I just pulled it off. I feel like a grade-A moron.
Is there any other material I can substitute, or any way I can repair this?
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Well I left the phone outside for a solid half hour, and it still isnt finding any satellites. Any other ideas?
*EDIT*
I realized what is wrong. A few months ago i PEELED OFF THE GPS ANTENNA!! I just thought it was pointless tape on the back and it was already starting to loose its adhesive, so I just pulled it off. I feel like a grade-A moron.
Is there any other material I can substitute, or any way I can repair this?
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