Hey there everyone. I connect the phone to the pc or laptop so I can use the internet. and it looks like the 3G or HSDPA dosent seem fast as Sprint. i connected my brothers phone which is the HTC Touch and I see that the speed is type faster. I put something to download on ATT and the highest I seen so far is 80 to 89 kbps and on sprint is like around 125kbps. and im using HSDPA too. so I was wondering why is acting this way? i have full signal and latest rom and radio too.
Internet sharing works fine on AT&T in California with HSDPA - I get between 350 and 850kbps downstream, 100 - 200kbps upstream on most WM6.1 ROMS. You do need to make sure HSDPA is enabled in the ROM though, make sure you have a good radio, etc.
I'd recommend the latest Hyperdragon ROM, or still the most stable I have found is Dutty's Dutty 24MB WM6.1 Hybrid ROM, with Radio 1.58.16.27, 3.56SPL.
I agree. I use L26's V12 ROM (no Throttle) and I get around 500-800 kbps. Any other ROM that I used, as long as I made sure that HSDPA was enabled, I'd get the same thing.
How are you confirming that you're using HSDPA? Do you have an "E" symbol or an H symbol up on the top of the screen? Which bandwidth site are you using?
These are my results in SoCal using HSDPA:
How is this related to ROM Development? Can one of the mods move this (when they get up )?
Ta
Dave
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I'm in an area that supposedly has 3G coverage (Portland, Oregon). But...
My Tilt has never connected to the 3G network. I've gone to many areas thoughout the metro area, power cycled my phone (to see if it picked up new towers) but I never get 3G connectivity. The "3G" Icon has never displayed on my Tilt.
I've tried different radios which doesn't make a difference.
Suggestions anyone?
Wow, a local!
I have HSDPA almost everywhere in Portland (fastest 3G standard). Even with it not enabled, I have 3G in most of the metro area, including Vancouver where I live.
What icon is displayed?
I'm actually in Hillsboro, but it may as well be Portland.
Usually the "E" icon, and rarely I get the "H" icon.
I'm not sure what the "H" represents. I think its HSDPA, but I assume thats not 3G or as fast as 3G... and if it is then what's the "3G" icon all about?
HSDPA is what you want to see! It's the fastest version of 3G, and the newest available.
E is Edge, its 2G, not as fast but not horrible... Until Edge Evo comes out.
The data coverage maps from ATT are usually pretty bad. It doesnt have to say 3G for it to be 3G. HSDPA is 3G (the best) as well as other variants.
Do you notice a hit in your download speeds?
hmmmm... how confusing. If HSPDA is 3G. What's the point of the "3G" icon?
At my apartment I only get 1 maybe 2 bars of service if I am lucky so that means that while I am home "E" is the best I can get (or expect). But...
When I am out and about I get the "H" icon occasionally. Is there a good way to test my connection speed?
Yeah it's sort of weird... Here's a breakdown.
standards
GSM / UMTS (3GPP) Family
2G
* GSM
* GPRS
* EDGE (EGPRS)
o EDGE Evolution
* HSCSD
3G
* UMTS (3GSM)
* HSPA
o HSDPA
o HSUPA
o HSPA+
* UMTS-TDD
o TD-CDMA
o TD-SCDMA
* FOMA
Pre-4G
* UMTS Revision 8
o LTE
o HSOPA (Super 3G)
cdmaOne / CDMA2000 (3GP)
From - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3G
I don't particularly like Wikipedia, but this should help. I'm sure there is a program that will test your connection speed, but you can try something simple like connecting and downloading a cab, lets say Google Maps. Then you can run Google Maps and see how fast you get your satellite image up. There is probably a better way but that should show any big differences.
EDIT: I should add that 3G usually denotes a mix or standards available. It's just a generalization, and the fastest will be chosen by your phone (this is how I understand it)
Also, what ROM and radio are you using?
well in the midwest AT&T was having problems with 3G they dont know why but all of a sudden their networks just failed idk if that is what is causing ur problem but i kept on getting an error saying that the phone couldnt connect to wap.cingular.
Thanks for that breakdown. Gives me a much better perspective.
I've tried a couple of the more popular ROMs. But recently I've been using Q-Mobile 1.2 - It's treated me well. I'm still trying to understand why Dutty's roms are so popular. I can't figure out what makes people flock to his ROM's over the others.
I've also tried out some different radio's. None of them seem to make any improvement (while at my apartment) but currently I am using 1.27.15.32 because I am under the impression that it is the newest radio and therefore should somehow be better.
I'm also unsure if I have the correct data connection settings setup after flashing a ROM. From what I am able to find the only thing I need to do is use "wap.cingular" Then I go into advanced settings and input the OpenDNS servers in for the DNS. Do I need to add any other AT&T specific information after flashing. I've read that there is some sort of proxy information needed as well but its not very clear.
Anywho, what settings for data do you use? What Radio, ROM?
phan10m said:
well in the midwest AT&T was having problems with 3G they dont know why but all of a sudden their networks just failed idk if that is what is causing ur problem but i kept on getting an error saying that the phone couldnt connect to wap.cingular.
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Yeah, I read about that. Aparently AT&T has no clue what happened. And to make matters worse there is more data outages today.
But I'm convinced that my issue is unrelated to all that since I've been experiencing these issues way before the data outages.
I'm glad that helped. I use the Stock HTC ROM 1.56.405.5 with Radio 1.27.12.11 (It's packaged with the radio). It's a legit HTC release, which means very little bugs and it's fast. Flash and hard-reset and you are good to go.
RUU_Kaiser_HTC_WWE_1.56.405.5_radio_sign_22.45.88. 07_1.27.12.11_Ship.exe
You can find it here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331900
Anyways, I've heard good things about the Q-Mobile roms, but I've been so happy with the .11 radio that the HTC stock works great for me. The .11 radio is also packaged in the stock ATT ROM your device shipped with.
When you first boot, it will prompt you to setup data, and for me it gets all the settings automatially and takes about 5 seconds to do it. Otherwise, I'm pretty sure you just use the wap.cingular, but in all honestly I've never had to do it. I also am not sure why people go crazy over Dutty ROMS. It's almost blastphemy to say that on this forum, and I really appreciate his hard work but they arnt for me either. I like real fast,not too flashy and super usable (and stable, of course, why I love HTC stock ROM's)
I just looked now, my access point name is isp.cingular. Never bothered with it before.
I'll check up on this thread tomorrow, hope this helps you out!
Please ignore this.
Interesting... You make a good argument about the stock HTC ROM. I'll have to try that and see if reception and data speeds are any better.
Although my Tilt came with radio 1.27.12.17 - I've only had it for a couple of weeks so they may have put a newer radio on it.
As far as ROM's go, I'm just looking for something that I can use as a baseline. I don't like programs cooked in. I'd rather have a clean ROM and install what I want. But, on the other hand I do like how the cooked roms often contain the latest updates baked right in.
I'm off to flash to the HTC Stock ROM. I'll let you know how that goes.
Thanks for your help, it's nice to have a local to bounce things off of
I don't care for everything cooked in either. The HTC Stock is pretty bare-bones. The only thing I would recommend adding is Nadavi's upadted camera, dumped from Polaris...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=355587
And of course the Tilt Keyboard Fix...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334911
Also, Youtube and streaming video work out of the box, you don't have to do anything fancy to get GPS working (run GPStest, etc...) and besides that there is not much needed. Any eye candy can be easily added.
BUT, remember to hard-reset after flash! It makes a big difference, at least for me.
Let me know how it goes!
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I'm actually in Hillsboro, but it may as well be Portland.
Usually the "E" icon, and rarely I get the "H" icon.
I'm not sure what the "H" represents. I think its HSDPA, but I assume thats not 3G or as fast as 3G... and if it is then what's the "3G" icon all about?
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H is faster than standard UMTS, and yes, its HSDPA. You will only see the H while data is being actually sent/received though. When no data is being transferred you will see 3G.
-Jay
Hi
I have a Vodafone branded Kaiser (unlocked), which I was initially using on BT Mobile and I always got a 3g or H symbol. But I've recently switched to Orange Uk and although I've been asured by Orange I have a 3G sim and I get fast data rates, I only ever see the G (GPRS) or E (Edge) symbols on my phone. Why is this so? Does anyone on Orange get the 3G symbol??
Maybe you just dont get Orange 3G signal where you are. I know unless I leave the area I live in I dont get 3G anywhere, and its not some out of the way little village either
Orange's 3g network coverage is quite good. So you should see a 3g symbol (unless you have switched your device to GSM instead of AUTO in the phone settings).
Their H coverage is getting better but is still only the major cities (and most of the M25).
Where do you live?
I'm in birmingham and only get it intermittently (H) although I'm usually always 3'd up when I remember to switch out of GSM (better for battery!).
Thanks for the replies. To clarify...
I live in Bristol (where Orange is based) and I get good 3G / H speeds (checked at http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1). I get speeds of around 1.7 to 2Mbps which is actually faster than my home hardwired broadband!!! But I never see the 3G or H symbol on the phone. I used to see these all the time on other networks (BT Mobile which subs to Vodafone 3G n/w), but never on Orange. I never changed any software on the phone when I switched and I presume because of the good speed I get that the setup is correct.
Can I just confirm that other Orange users actualy see the 3G symbol on their Kaisers?
Cheers
My Kaiser with the orange rom showed 3g (and H when active).
It still does with dutty's wm6.1 rom too.
jambell said:
Thanks for the replies. To clarify...
I live in Bristol (where Orange is based) and I get good 3G / H speeds (checked at http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1). I get speeds of around 1.7 to 2Mbps which is actually faster than my home hardwired broadband!!! But I never see the 3G or H symbol on the phone. I used to see these all the time on other networks (BT Mobile which subs to Vodafone 3G n/w), but never on Orange. I never changed any software on the phone when I switched and I presume because of the good speed I get that the setup is correct.
Can I just confirm that other Orange users actualy see the 3G symbol on their Kaisers?
Cheers
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Yep, can definitely confirm that I have seen, G, E, 3G, H on my kaiser both with the stock rom and with qmobile 1.2
The only thing I can think of is: Have you flashed a different radio but I'm clutching at straws here. not really my field.
I had the same problem with mine in France, and many of us had it too.
Moreover I have bad news for you..I think you have to send your phone to the HTC support. I've just got back my phone from it and it works again as before the problem appeared.
You should read this thread : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=335074&highlight=motherboard+3G
Have fun and good luck bye
I also have a Vodafone UK branded Kaiser (v1615) and use it with an Orange 3G SIM. Generally I do see the 3G symbol, unless I'm in a poor reception area where it drops back to G or E. I have seen H but only I think within the M25. I'm based near Glasgow.
Does your phone say orange3G as the network if it says only orange it means that you are using a normal SIM...ask them for a new one
Mine just says Orange but I get 3G though? Not sure if it's different in the UK but I definitely have a high speed SIM.
Mine just says Orange - but I do have 3g/H and it says so.
If you run a speedtest and get over 130, then you are on 3G and over 500k then you are on H.
There are some rom tweaks that change the icons you see.
I have the cube rom of dutty's and I have had to go to the radio in l26 v7 rom. 1.58.25.17 to get my 3g working properly.
The thing is I am not sure what speed I am connecting at. Whereas with the stock Tmob Rom and L26s rom I get the H for HSDPA turning up where the 3G is at the moment.
How do I get my icon back/know what speed I am connecting at?
I have searched before anyone starts
The 'reg entry' to enable the icon doesnt work and nor does 'htweakc'.
I don't think its down to the radio as i am running the same radio as L26 V7.
Thanks in advance for any help and thanks to all the chefs and tweakers.
Go into settings>connections>hspda and check 'Turn on HSPDA'
I have the same thing, it dosnt seem to be a big deal, my speed conection actually is much better now with this diamond rom, and i notice that is something like +-10 to kbs more fast.
guys,
i just transferred from orange to o2. i have no 3g now?? i used networ wizrad and got the settings from o2 but still no joy
i have HK official wwe rom and there is no 3g option in comm manager either
can anyone help?
did you try running connections setup? or adding the 3g to comm manager with tf3d config to see if it is on?
yes i ran connections setup and o2 sent me the config.
i cant fiund the wsay to add 3g to comm manager in td3 flo adv??
yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception
patterns said:
yes 3g is enabled, just doesnt work or never active even in good signal areas, nothing! i either have H or E next to my reception
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H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
I've been curious about this too. O2 doesn't have a 3G license, which is why they used the Jap technology i-mode (which as we know flopped). So where is the iPhone's 3G coming from? I think it's from '3', but I'm not 100%. So if you're not in a '3' coverage area I would guess this is why you don't reception on this band.
adamdon89 said:
H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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LOL (H) = HSPDA
HSPDA=7.5Mbps Approx making it a shed load faster than 3G
High-Speed Downlink Packet Access (HSDPA) is a 3G (third generation) mobile telephony communications protocol in the High-Speed Packet Access (HSPA) family, which allows networks based on Universal Mobile Telecommunications System (UMTS) to have higher data transfer speeds and capacity. Current HSDPA deployments support down-link speeds of 1.8, 3.6, 7.2 and 14.4 Mbit/s. Further speed increases are available with HSPA+, which provides speeds of up to 42 Mbit/s downlink.
robbed form wiki as im lazy!
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H? Oh dear... does someone wana tell him :/
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im sorry, i LOL'd when i read that.
I didn't even notice the H in his post LOL. Strange how he either gets GPRS or HSDPA though, and never any 3G.
yes this is strange - well at least it explains it. i put my 3 sim in and i get 3g straight away, oh well i can connect to internet anyhow so.... all is good
thanks for help guys
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Hi all: first time poster, long-time lurker here. I'm thoroughly impressed with the level of discourse and amount of knowledge and information on these forums and the associated Wiki pages. I'm still a total newb when it comes to SmartPhones in general, but I'm trying to climb the steep learning curve as quickly as I can.
Background: Have 2-week old AT&T Tilt phone with AT&T voice and data coverage. Have experimented with a few different shipped and cooked ROMs, and have settled on the BRR-HTC-2.0 Lite ROM. It's basically a barebones version of the latest HTC Shipped ROM, and I have installed the following programs:
HouMing File Explore Extension
HTC TaskManager
Microsoft .NET CF 2.0
HTC Connection Setup
Microsoft Live Search
Google Search
Opera 9.5 Beta (IE is still default browser, though)
Adlobe Reader LE 2.0
Vicsoft ClearTemp
Cyberon VoiceCommander
HTC QuickGPS
HTC Home
Jblend Java
TCPMP
Skunkworks FlashVideoBundle
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Am I connected "correctly"? With the out-of-the-box AT&T Rom, my connection "bars" had a "3G" on top of them (as long as I was in a 3G zone, of course!), and the data connectivity icon also showed a "3G". Now, both areas show an "H" where a "3G" once was, and although I'm pretty sure everything is fine, there's a naggine though that something isn't right.
I tested my download speed at CNet's Bandwidth Speed Test and got a download speed of 374.9 Kbps. Does this sound about right for the AT&T 3G network? Should I be concerned that something is wrong?
- DDB
It used to say 3G and only H when it was transfering data and shortly after. Now it says H all the time in most areas. It also used to say 3G AT&T for the network name when 3G was available but now it just says AT&T. They must have changed the network somehow.
The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
Thanks!
Thank you both for the quick feedback. Sounds like I have nothing to worry about.
I'm also now having issues with connecting to my mail servers, but I'll save that question for another thread.
Thanks again!
DDB
xconradx said:
The "H" icon stands for HSDPA. It is an upgraded standard of the 3G network. Basically, you are using 3G, but your phone is letting you know you are in a service area that supports HSDPA - this is a good thing.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-Speed_Downlink_Packet_Access
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Actually, what I've heard is that H indicates HSPA.. The phone still registers 3G if the area only has HSDPA, but when it also has HSUPA, combined being HSPA, it shows H.
So do speed tests ethered via USB, let us know the results.. Make sure you test downlink and uplink of course.
Test Speeds
When people mention test speeds, how is that accomplished? I have gone to online speed test websites via my tilt, but I continually see "via usb". Is this using the internet sharing and a laptop? Thanks for the help!