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What is your opinion on Which Radio is best for Orange in UK

Hi. Has anyone got any experience for which radio they like best in UK on Orange?
My priorities are as follows...
1) Half decent phone / internet reception
2) Quick GPS lock
3) Good battery life (this is still fairly important!)
Thanks... if you have any pointers that would be great / save me the work!
Drunken thanks in advance...
James

look in the ultimate radio thread.

I don't think there's that level of detail on here to find it out. I'm using 1.65.24.36 gps is quick. phone is very good including great speaker phone mic pickup which was crap with my old radio (it was a 1.27 one from official vodafone rom).
I'm not sure how it stands up to battery. It depends how much you use it...
with 3g on (HSPDA enabled) constantly it's below 9 hours.
Would love to know how other orange uk users get on.
FYI I think the radio in the new official 6.1 rom is 1.65.16.25.
Also I used 1.64.08.21 which is supposed to be a good one in general but my phone vibrated to death.
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orange UK running ROMeOS v4.1

it will all depend on your rom
pls give details of ur rom
profjekyll said:
Hi. Has anyone got any experience for which radio they like best in UK on Orange?
My priorities are as follows...
1) Half decent phone / internet reception
2) Quick GPS lock
3) Good battery life (this is still fairly important!)
Thanks... if you have any pointers that would be great / save me the work!
Drunken thanks in advance...
James
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I've since tried the 1.71.09.01. very good reception but complaints of battery drain. I didn't use it long enough to find out about the drain. I've also tried radio from the new official rom which is actually 1.65.16.25. seems ok so far. slightly worse reception than others and this might be an indicator that battery life is good

[Q] The Rogers Diamond

I am about to buy a Rogers Diamond. Having owned 2 different Windows Mobile phones from them, I know they probably managed to limit the heck out of their Diamond so I was wondering if anyone that has a Rogers Diamond could tell me (us?) if they decided to limit software installation, GPS, internet etc etc.
If so, is there a fix?
If there's no english one I'll get the french one. Any flashing to standard english ROM possible right now?
Thanks in advance, can't wait!
-Nick
PS: Gecko is coming soon, hopefully before Christmas!

well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.

D0MZE said:
well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.
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havent seen that version of the radio before?

No. Memory. Card.
What the heck? I had a 4GB one anyway, but it makes testing apps and transferring music so fast!

Rogers Diamond
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.

ROGERS 3G
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.

mugglesquop said:
havent seen that version of the radio before?
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really? that's what it says here, i just double checked cause you made me wonder i did a mistake

radio version
same radio version here.
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
ROM Date: 10/30/08
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
Protocol version: 52.31.25.13H
DIAM110 64M
SPL-1.93.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
I'm having issue with gps sat lock taking so long and I suspect this radio version is the culprit. I might unlock and flash the radio on my phone. I've been reading this forum religiously for past 6 days now trying to understand how to unlock and flash my phone. The more I read the more I get confused.

I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.

Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
raidendb said:
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.
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dsixda said:
Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
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I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.

dsixda said:
I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.
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I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.

raidendb said:
I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.
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The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine

raidendb said:
I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.
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$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.

dsixda said:
$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.
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I don't know. He doesn't have any data plan with rogers just voice so I guess he is like pay as you go for 3G.
And just like me with my old iPAQ PDA phone I get billed for data usage every now and then for something I've never used. The most I got was 40 bucks. Didn't bother complaining since my time getting on hold by customer service is worth more than $40.

hat gps application is used in your diamond?
raidendb said:
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.
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Hi, I am about to buy the rogers diamond. Since GPS is my must have function in a smart phone, could you tell me what gps application is used in your diamond?
Do you know if iguidance 3.0 works in rogers diamond?
Thanks

FYI
I am using Tomtom 7.91 on Diamond, it has about 2-3 seconds lag, very annoying

I'm using iGO8. So far great that is if it locks to a sat signal. Nothing wrong with iGo8 but I think it the radio version that came with Rogers branded diam.
hpod06: when you say 2-3 sec lag, do mean that your position on the gps is 2-3 sec late from actual. If so then same here. And same with my other iPAQ gps phone. So I think it's not the gps apps thats causing this delay but the gps chip used by phone. Well the lag doesn't really bother me since gps apps announces your next maneuver before hand. Just need to get use to it.

dsixda said:
The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine
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I'm using Radio 1.00.25.08 on Roger's in Toronto...been quite happy with it's performance.
ROM v: 1.93.831.1 WWE
HTC Touch Diamond P3700

Avoid rogers diamond!
I had to exchange rogers diamond to iphone even though I am always not a apple fan.
For whatever reason, the performance of rogers diamond is unacceptable. i.e. Multiple applications running concurrently would just hang the system. It's like a single thread system
I called the customer service, and the customer service manager didn't explicitly deny the problem when i pointed out, which imply this could be a common issue to the rogers diamond. As I have been reading all the diamond review, bad performance seems a always an issue. Some said, it's being significantly improved after upgrading to the new firmware, but at least this is not the case on rogers diamond. Regardless the underlying reason, i highly doubt rogers did a real integration test on diamond!!

Big problems with my diamond... gsm signal lost permanently, battery problems...

dear all...
i deceided a few weeks ago to change from nokia to the htc touch diamond. a friend of mine has an htc touch hd and i really liked it. the touch display was my favorit. i don't like apple products, so the iphone was never an option, also i don't like samsung products (mobile ones) because i had a samsung mobile and had a lot of troubles with it.
well... since i have the touch diamond, i also have troubles with it. in the first three days i wasn't able to phone -> the phone hangs up and if i tried to dial a number no one can hear me and i didn't hear the one i called. i gave it back to the shop for repair -> after two weeks i got it back and was told there was an software problem and it is now fixed. ok... well it was fixed, but new problems were upcoming. first of all the battery -> it's not possible to pass a day from morning to the late evening with charging the diamond only once... first i thought this is my biggest problem but then i revealed that an other bigger problem exists which actually effects my job. i'm not reachable because my mobile losts connectivity as soon as it goes to standby. when i activate it over the power button it searches for an gsm signal but it doesn't find one. it doesn't matter if i'm in my flat or if i stand with the mobile near to the radio mast. it only helps if i turn the phone function off and on.
my friend told me about the opportunity that this forum exists where people working on developing roms and other nice features for various mobiles and i should take a look at it. well.... i registered here, read the howtos and guides and flashing bibles and tried nearly all available roms here to improve the behaviours of my diamond, but i don't succeed, well this is the time, where i capitulate and ask for help... my provider can't help me... they said that the mobile is not so often sold and they don't hear anything about customer complaints...
info about my acutal-configuration:
mobile: htc touch diamond
spl: 1.9.30-OliNex HSPL
rom: 2.07.Gen.Y GER
radio: 1.09.25.23 (htc because mobile is still security locked)
protocoll version: 52.51.25.26H
provider: A1 mobilkom www.a1.net
location: EU/AT/VIENNA
can anyone give me suggestions what to do?
can anyone help me to make my diamond a mobilephone it should be or give me an advice what i can do?
i also think about resetting the phone to factory defaults (at the moment i'm searching for a guide) and give the handy back and pay the upgrade price for the touch hd... my friend doesn't have any problem with it and i don't know any other way out of this situation... at the moment i have a multimedia device with wich i can't phone and couldn't be reached which in my opinion is absolutly not acceptable.
kind regards

unlock it and use bsb rom

losing GSM signal when the phone is on standby? I'm just making a guess here, but I believe you might have a problem with the ROM and or just only the radio. unlock it and flash a new ROM and or a radio to see if it works
as for battery life, the Diamond battery is very bad, and the radio you use is directly related to the battery life, some radio sucks battery out dry pretty quickly, but normally, this phone requires a charge once per day

Satellites a function of Radio?

I just noticed my Tom Tom only tracks 8 satellites anymore, and I read somewhere else that a guy thought that the number of satellites the phone tracks is a function of what radio you are running.
ie: the newer radios don't track 12 satellites anymore.
Why do I care? Well, I've found that I can't get a fix as well in low-signal areas as I used to be able to.
I'm running Radio 1.79.09.01.

Newer radios intending to reduce battery consumption
over2land said:
I just noticed my Tom Tom only tracks 8 satellites anymore, and I read somewhere else that a guy thought that the number of satellites the phone tracks is a function of what radio you are running.
ie: the newer radios don't track 12 satellites anymore.
Why do I care? Well, I've found that I can't get a fix as well in low-signal areas as I used to be able to.
I'm running Radio 1.79.09.01.
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Where'd you get that radio from, the latest I've seen are 1.70.xx.xx and the 1.71 eMO radio? It seems as if over time HTC has reduced the power supplied to the GPS circuitry with newer radios. In many locations (such as where I live) this is false economy because then the GPS has to work overtime to actually get a lock and maintain it, often with sluggish/intermittent results. I think their intention was to extend battery life but it's a bit like saying we'll introduce a fuel flow limiting valve onto a car to improve economy. It may work OK in ideal situations such as on the flat but give it a hard work scenario like a hill (or areas of the planet with lower overhead Navstar satellite density) and it just falls apart not getting enough fuel (or in this case power) to do it's work properly. I've tried 1.71 and 1.70 series radios with HTC original WWE WM 6.1 ROMs and found the GPS performance poor compared to the 1.27.12.32 version I currently use on my WM 6.0 ROM. Unfortunately this radio won't work with a WM 6.1 ROM so you have a choice to make.

My bad, that was a typo... I'm running 1.71.09.01 for a radio.
Thanks for the info. I've been thinking all along that they have been dialing back on actual talking capabilities of the radio in favor of internet/data capabilities. I remember my phone holding a call much better when I got it than it does now. That is, I drive a lot and I'm on the phone a lot, and this phone drops calls all over the place where it didn't used to.
Its come to the point that I use my MPx for important phone calls while on the road, because it doesn't drop nearly as much as the Kaiser does, and it gets better signal for longer in remote areas. Kinda sad that a 5-year old phone is a better phone than what we've got now.
Anyone have any other info on the changes in radios as it effects satellite, data, and phone reception? Obviously I started this mainly about the satellite reception, but now I'm curious.

over2land said:
My bad, that was a typo... I'm running 1.71.09.01 for a radio.
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And there I was thinking you have a secret underground radio development lab all of your own
Thanks for the info. I've been thinking all along that they have been dialing back on actual talking capabilities of the radio in favor of internet/data capabilities.
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Glad that my points have been helpful although I've gotta say my experience doesn't substantiate your claims regarding voice call reliability - it only relates to GPS performance changes. It wouldn't surprise me if they'd cut back on general radio transmission power because that seemed their intention as far as GPS was concerned. It's really not something I can comment on as voice calls/reception was acceptable for me with the WM 6.1 ROMs as well as my current WM 6.0 setup.

I wish I had my own underground radio lab! I'd crank up GPS, voice, and data, battery be damned.
I hear ya on the GPS stuff... I went searching and didn't find anyone else asking the same kind of questions though.

Touch Diamond getting hot - but not battery

I have an cooked ROM since over three months and there where
never any problems with it, but the fast emptiness of the batt, but I have an allways full charged replacement batt and two dockingstations with extra batt loader.
But my device is getting hot the last two days... but not the batt, I think its the CPU inside.
I first uninstalled everthing unnecessery, then made a soft reset and now a hard reset, without installing anything new, but again its getting hot.
What could be the Problem?
Attached the screenshots of the device and ROM Informations.
The Rom I use allways worked fine, till before two days it began to heat the device.
I like my Touch Diamond, I got used to it, it would be a pity buying a nother one, also because I dont have the money for.
Please if you have any suggesttions, help me.
Yours cincerly,
Robert

Try changing your radio.
Good Luck!

Could it be your GPS and/or WiFi is on, and the Diamond is constantly looking for a signal/connection?

Radio / Wifi / BT
Hi,
tanhks for reply!
Everthing off (Wifi / Bluetooth).
Only Phone is on and it conects to 3G when starting Browser.
But also with "EVERTGING" OFF" it heats the device.
Could you please post me how to change radio and to which one,
or a link to a thread ehre this is explaned?
Thank you,
Robert

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=416211

Radio
Hi,
thnaks for the link!
I installed the new radio with the "geting hot" fix...
Now looking what hapens.
I turned on to charge over USB when connected,
but it seems to discharge in case of beeing connectedto USB..
Funny what???
What could this be?
Yours
Robert

Does not solve the heat problem
I did install the new radio as suggessted,
made a hard reset also,
but device is also getting hot.
Any iDeas what else i could be?
Yours Robert

Which is the part that's heating too much ( Eg. Lower back !! )

Which oart heats...
Backwards down under the battery, where the IM Card is insertet.
Seems to be a defect. On charging the dvice discharges... It seems to to like this.
Yours,
Robert

Addition:
If no SIM is insertet and no USB Cable is connected it doens not heat

Strange:
Usually heating is because of the following reasons -
1. Your GPS/Wifi is on
2. You're running Android
3. You're running too many applications
Check all this first.
If negative then it will be something with the radio.
Keep trying different radios ( although be careful not to flash a 2G radio onto a 3G one )
If this too fails , its something with the chip.
FYI , heating is kinda normal for all the diamonds , mine does heat sometimes but i dont take it as a big issue.

Try different radios . if that doesnt work then its a chip problem. My diamond too heats like crazy but im used to it now.
TRY TRY TRY

siddharthsai said:
Usually heating is because of the following reasons -
1. Your GPS/Wifi is on
2. You're running Android
3. You're running too many applications
Check all this first.
If negative then it will be something with the radio.
Keep trying different radios ( although be careful not to flash a 2G radio onto a 3G one )
If this too fails , its something with the chip.
FYI , heating is kinda normal for all the diamonds , mine does heat sometimes but i dont take it as a big issue.
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Not runnig android nor Wifi nor Bluetooth
Removed SimCard to use in a nother Handy to be able to talk to people without shutting down the Smartphone.
The other user which I phone to cannot understand me anymore, seems like the mic is going dead.
Applications is only the HTC Sense running, nothing else....
3G works, I set it to only go to 3G when requested by for eyample a browser.
But also without sim and without USB connection it heats....
The ROM is the original one from XDA....
I tried to download the Orange ROM from HTC Homepage but it does not accept my serialnumber of the Touch Diamond, I tried a million times.
Its courious....
I will sell it and get a Toshiba T01 with 1GHz and WM6.5 I am used to,
Do you have any better suggesstions for an smartphone with 3G (HSDPA), WLAN, Bluetooth, 640x800 resolution and WM 6.x?? I need it to connect to internet with the Intenet connection shing wizard on the HTC Diamond...
Bought my mummy a netbook with integrated SIM-Card Adapter and my old Internet SIM (512 MB free thzen slows down speed). I have now Orange wikth 1 GB free and paying for more, but I dont need it so very much that I come over 300 MB monthly....
Youts,
Robert
I will try some other radios.
What have I to do after a new Radio flash, a complete hardreset?
Whiuch german WM6.5 with HTC Sense can you recommend me, without very much programs. I need Google Maps, opera, ICS and long battery life, thats all..
Yours and thank you,
Robert