[Q] The Rogers Diamond - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

I am about to buy a Rogers Diamond. Having owned 2 different Windows Mobile phones from them, I know they probably managed to limit the heck out of their Diamond so I was wondering if anyone that has a Rogers Diamond could tell me (us?) if they decided to limit software installation, GPS, internet etc etc.
If so, is there a fix?
If there's no english one I'll get the french one. Any flashing to standard english ROM possible right now?
Thanks in advance, can't wait!
-Nick
PS: Gecko is coming soon, hopefully before Christmas!

well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.

D0MZE said:
well i got mine today, few board members got it as welll before me.
I haven't played too much with the phone yet, but up to now they dont seem like they played too much with it...
if you want to know:
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
ram: 192mb
flash size: 256mb
you can flash to anything you want as long as you HARD-SPL your phone, causing it to SuperCID.
You don't really have to worry about backing up your rom because you can find it here, a board member already got it for us to play around with.
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havent seen that version of the radio before?

No. Memory. Card.
What the heck? I had a 4GB one anyway, but it makes testing apps and transferring music so fast!

Rogers Diamond
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.

ROGERS 3G
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.

mugglesquop said:
havent seen that version of the radio before?
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really? that's what it says here, i just double checked cause you made me wonder i did a mistake

radio version
same radio version here.
ROM Version: 1.93.631.8 WWE
ROM Date: 10/30/08
Radio Version: 1.00.25.06
Protocol version: 52.31.25.13H
DIAM110 64M
SPL-1.93.0000
MicroP-Diam (LED) v11
I'm having issue with gps sat lock taking so long and I suspect this radio version is the culprit. I might unlock and flash the radio on my phone. I've been reading this forum religiously for past 6 days now trying to understand how to unlock and flash my phone. The more I read the more I get confused.

I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.

Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
raidendb said:
Just want to share this. But I'm pretty sure this has been tackled in the forums already.
Rogers branded HTC Diamond doesn't have the option to turn of 3G through band selection. I found this registry hack to enable band selection and now I can turn 3G off.
Rogers default registry - OFF
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:0
Registry tweak to enable band changes
[\HKLM\Software\OEM\PhoneSetting\]
"ShowUMTSBandPage"=dword:1
Now you can go to >start>settings>phone>band tab and change band settings to your choice. I switched mine to just use GSM instead of auto which always connects on 3G.
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dsixda said:
Hi, why do you want to disable 3G? I thought it was a benefit?
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I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.

dsixda said:
I have the same radio but am not having any problem acquiring satellite lock. By the way, this radio is already posted in the radio thread at the top of the Rom Development forum.. so I don't know why someone said it was not seen before.
I hope someone can find or make a backup for the first splash screen (Rogers red, VGA). We have backups for the OS, SPL, and radio so far.
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I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.

raidendb said:
I'm using iGO8 and on my now sold EU/Asia Diamond it worked pretty well. Now with the Rogers branded HTC Diamond it takes like somewhere from 3-5 mins to lock to a sat. It sees the satellites but just wouldn't lock to them. My old diam got 1.00.25.05 radio in it and I'm thinking of flashing my phone with the same radio but keeping the Rogers ROM since there not that bad and as quick and stable as some cooked ROMs out there.
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The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine

raidendb said:
I know. It's just that sometimes I would select something which needs internet connection (ex; quickgps) accidentally and it will try to connect through 3G. My friend got billed by Rogers a hefty $3000++ for internet connection which he never used because he thinks he accidentally run internet in his phone and unknowingly left it. I like the option of enabling 3G only when I need it. Plus I read from this forum that 3G connection is one of the battery killers of Diamond.
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$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.

dsixda said:
$3000?? But I thought they max out the data plan at $100 if you go over. I'm on my first month so I haven't seen my first bill yet, but apparently I have used up a lot of voice call minutes even though I hardly used the phone to call!!! I leave my data on all the time so that I can check email every half hour.
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I don't know. He doesn't have any data plan with rogers just voice so I guess he is like pay as you go for 3G.
And just like me with my old iPAQ PDA phone I get billed for data usage every now and then for something I've never used. The most I got was 40 bucks. Didn't bother complaining since my time getting on hold by customer service is worth more than $40.

hat gps application is used in your diamond?
raidendb said:
I got my Rogers branded HTC Diamond yesterday and so far it'll let me install any apps I want. Internet works through wifi and 3G. I can't find a way to turn off 3G connection. GPS works but acquiring sat lock takes like 5mins compared to my old EU/Asia Diamond which locks to sat in 30sec.
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Hi, I am about to buy the rogers diamond. Since GPS is my must have function in a smart phone, could you tell me what gps application is used in your diamond?
Do you know if iguidance 3.0 works in rogers diamond?
Thanks

FYI
I am using Tomtom 7.91 on Diamond, it has about 2-3 seconds lag, very annoying

I'm using iGO8. So far great that is if it locks to a sat signal. Nothing wrong with iGo8 but I think it the radio version that came with Rogers branded diam.
hpod06: when you say 2-3 sec lag, do mean that your position on the gps is 2-3 sec late from actual. If so then same here. And same with my other iPAQ gps phone. So I think it's not the gps apps thats causing this delay but the gps chip used by phone. Well the lag doesn't really bother me since gps apps announces your next maneuver before hand. Just need to get use to it.

dsixda said:
The Rogers one is 1.00.25.06.. wouldn't that be better, if not almost the same (version number)?
I'll go driving tonight to test mine
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I'm using Radio 1.00.25.08 on Roger's in Toronto...been quite happy with it's performance.
ROM v: 1.93.831.1 WWE
HTC Touch Diamond P3700

Avoid rogers diamond!
I had to exchange rogers diamond to iphone even though I am always not a apple fan.
For whatever reason, the performance of rogers diamond is unacceptable. i.e. Multiple applications running concurrently would just hang the system. It's like a single thread system
I called the customer service, and the customer service manager didn't explicitly deny the problem when i pointed out, which imply this could be a common issue to the rogers diamond. As I have been reading all the diamond review, bad performance seems a always an issue. Some said, it's being significantly improved after upgrading to the new firmware, but at least this is not the case on rogers diamond. Regardless the underlying reason, i highly doubt rogers did a real integration test on diamond!!

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Problem with my TILT, signal....

Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
egk-69 said:
Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
That happened to me until i switched to duttys rom and inex radio. now that problem is solved for me.
SOMEONE SET UP US TEH ROM!!!
WE NO GET SIGNAL!
If you could tell us if you ahve flashed to a customer ROM or if you have a Stock ROM, the one that came with the phone. Same with the Radio. We could help you better. Thank You.
redbandana said:
Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
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ok its a AT&T TILT
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM DATE: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
Same here
I'm now with the updated AT&T ROM, but wit hthe same issues.
This also happened with the previous ROM.
At home I'm connected to my PC via USB. For some reason, in this location I have virtually no reception (ie I have 1 or 0 bars).
And many times, if I don't go in/out of Flight Mode after I leave home, I find myself without reception even for a couple of hours (ie the Tilt doesn't "recover" on its own).
I HardSPL'd my Tilt and tried installing the French radio in order to improve reception (other users in my location said it worked well for them), but found it was incompatible, and after a very stressful day (I was certain I'd bricked my Tilt) - was able to enter bootloader mode and restore the original radio.
At the moment I don't want to flash a Kaiser radio, and I want to wait until AT&T release their own WM6.1 ROM (I don't want to use a cooked one).
Further (I wrote about this in another post) - my GPS loses signal quite often, even under clear skies. I understand that this is another aspect of the radio drivers.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
I'd rather think it's a hardware problem. RMA...
Difficult....
I live abroad, and so it'll cost a small fortune in shipping charges, etc.
Not to mention import taxes, etc, if the IMEI is changed (eg if the device is replaced).
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
is this NIKI radio compatible with the standard AT&T ROM?
I have 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09.
Or is it compatible only with WM6.1?
Thank you.
redbandana said:
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
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ok, you say it improves with niki radio!?
so I have never done this before, is it hard!? were can I find a GOOD tutorial or guide or troubleshooter in case i get STUCK??
Other thing, here were I live, i think ATT from the quad band, use 850 almost all the time, anything to say about that? it doenst matter?, maybe its a stupid Q...
But the Niki radio requires WM6.1, doesn't it?
redbandana,
Did you install the Niki radio on a WM6 Tilt?
And what ROM do you have? (ie the original AT&T ROM, the updated AT&T ROM or a cooked one?)

Switching from T-Mobile to ATT? Help Please

I just got a Diamond last week and have been using it on T-Mobile in the United States, and it's great and all but I don't think I ever got Data to work... But that's irrelevant now, because my family just suddenly switched my plan to ATT after being on T-Mobile for 10 years, so now I need to switch my Diamond to an ATT network. I put the SIM card in, and the Diamond asked me if I wanted to change settings and I said yes. I restarted the phone, but I still can't get a connection, I have no service. Please help -- what should I do to get this phone going for calling and texting, and then switching my old number over? I'm not concerned about Data just yet.
Try running the Connection Setup wizard again. Mine worked fine on ATT after it automatically configured it.
Yeah I tried running it again, still nothing. Next to the little signal indicator, all I've got is the exclamation point. Do I need to somehow delete old settings?
One thing I've done after flashing and after the setup has run is change the following: Settings/Personal/Phone/Band -- Set network type to GSM, and band to UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900). I'm not sure if it makes a difference though, and I don't really know what settings the Connection Setup changes. Maybe the band settings will work for you?
That was the first thing I tried. I just got off the phone with ATT for 2 or so hours, and their solution was to visit a local store. I'm going to try this tommorow. In the mean time I'm stuck using some LG free phone
GeckoDev said:
One thing I've done after flashing and after the setup has run is change the following: Settings/Personal/Phone/Band -- Set network type to GSM, and band to UMTS(850+1900)+GSM(850+1900). I'm not sure if it makes a difference though, and I don't really know what settings the Connection Setup changes. Maybe the band settings will work for you?
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How does your Diamond run UMTS 850/1900? I know they unlocked 850mhz GSM, I didn't know UMTS was unlocked as well...
Black93300ZX said:
How does your Diamond run UMTS 850/1900? I know they unlocked 850mhz GSM, I didn't know UMTS was unlocked as well...
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This is what it says in the settings. I was surprised myself, as I've never even flashed my Diamond..
DrSilverworm said:
This is what it says in the settings. I was surprised myself, as I've never even flashed my Diamond..
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No **** huh? Where did you get your Diamond? Does 3G work perfectly in the states?
t-mobile to ATT
I just went from t-mobile to att.
i just popped the att sim card in and it configured it to att automatically. I also updated the rom which allows you to get a GREAT signal with att. Before the update ROM my signal was spotty. Where i got 1 bar i get 4 now.
Good luck ...it should work. But!!! no 3G....however its fast enough for me for what i use it for. IM very happy with my Diamond.
Rom 1.37.456.2 WWE
Rom Date 6-19-08
Radio Version 1.00.25.05
wfhowell said:
But!!! no 3G....
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That's what I expected, which is why I'm so perplexed by silverworm having UMTS 850/1900 available.
Black93300ZX said:
That's what I expected, which is why I'm so perplexed by silverworm having UMTS 850/1900 available.
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That's just what the setting says ... the last part of it (GSM 850+1900) is what gets used.
DrSilvermorm, you might want to try flashing the 1.93 ROM with the .05 radio. It'll only take you 15 minutes, instead of hours for the store. I went from 1-2 bars to 4 bars in some areas with the radio update, and my connection is more stable than it was in 1.37.
GeckoDev said:
That's just what the setting says ... the last part of it (GSM 850+1900) is what gets used.
DrSilvermorm, you might want to try flashing the 1.93 ROM with the .05 radio. It'll only take you 15 minutes, instead of hours for the store. I went from 1-2 bars to 4 bars in some areas with the radio update, and my connection is more stable than it was in 1.37.
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Umm, no, a setting doesn't "just say" UMTS 850/1900... The Diamond has been advertised with the new 850mhz GSM band, but everywhere it says it only has 900/2100mhz UMTS band. For there to be a setting for 850/1900 contradicts everything we've seen about the Diamond.
Black93300ZX said:
Umm, no, a setting doesn't "just say" UMTS 850/1900... The Diamond has been advertised with the new 850mhz GSM band, but everywhere it says it only has 900/2100mhz UMTS band. For there to be a setting for 850/1900 contradicts everything we've seen about the Diamond.
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It was discovered a couple weeks ago that the Diamond is actually quad band, and that the original ROMs had simply locked the 850 band (for reasons only known to HTC). The first hint of this was the release of the 1.93 Hong Kong ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720
The setting for GSM 850+1900 does in fact work.
Well, it only said this in my settings, I wasn't actually getting UMTS or GSM, for that matter. I went to the ATT store today and they were very impressed to see my Diamond the employee ran to the back to show his manager. I told them about my dilemma and they said that in Cincinnati (where I live), ATT runs exclusively on the 850 band.
I figured, duh, all I need to do is flash my ROM like so many of us have done to enable 850. I shouldn't have expected it to work, depsite what it says in my phone's settings, because I have yet to flash my ROM at all.
However, I am totally new to Windows Mobile and flashing ROM presents an even bigger challenge to me. All this talk about hardSPLs and cooked ROMS and .NET frameworks has gotten me very confused. I couldn't even get Windows Mobile Device Manager to install properly last week when I was on T-Mobile and trying to install some emulators, so naturally, I'm very frustrated . I'm very tempted to just sell my Diamond and go get an iPhone 3G, but I think I still have not lost hope yet.
Is there a comprehensive, step-by-step guide for flashing my ROM to a 850-enabled version with vista that anyone could point me to? This would be very very much appreciated! I don't want my $700 investment to go to waste so soon.
Edit: After using the excellent "search" feature of these forums (sorry forum veterans) I have found I promising guide that I will employ shortly, found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=406968. I will let you know of the results when I am done. I think I am going to try to flash to the ROM that GeckoDev recommended, if I can find it. Thanks friends!
GeckoDev said:
It was discovered a couple weeks ago that the Diamond is actually quad band, and that the original ROMs had simply locked the 850 band (for reasons only known to HTC). The first hint of this was the release of the 1.93 Hong Kong ROM: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=410720
The setting for GSM 850+1900 does in fact work.
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That's NOT my question! I'm 100% aware the ROM has unlocked 850mhz GSM, we've been over this a million times. But 850/1900mhz UMTS is for 3G, and I've never seen a Diamond working with 3G in the states. THAT's what I'm asking about, the GSM bands have never been a question.
Well Silverworm, good luck. If this is the site you found in that thread, this is the one I've checked out when learning how to flash ROMs.
http://modmydiamond.info/
Black93300ZX said:
Well Silverworm, good luck. If this is the site you found in that thread, this is the one I've checked out when learning how to flash ROMs.
http://modmydiamond.info/
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Yup, that's the one, thank you. So far though I haven't been able to get past the Hard SPL step though. Every time I run the ROMUpdateUtility all I manage to do is soft-reset my phone and get ERROR: 260 CONNECTION on the utility. I can't get past 0% on the update utility, and it tells me I should check to see if it's plugged in. It is indeed plugged in, directly to my laptop, and not to my USB hub. It is even able to tell me what my current ROM is, so I don't see how it can question whether or not the Diamond is plugged in. What am I doing wrong?
I establish ActiveSync everytime I plug my Diamond into my laptop, but there was one note in the how-to guide that was peculiar to me: *Make sure the activesync icon is be green (finished synchronizing). On my windows vista business OS, I don't see an activesync icon in my system tray, even though I establish activesync everytime I plug in my Diamond. Is this part of the problem? If so, what should I do?
I've tried both Olipro's 1.20 and Des's CrashProof SPL. Both had the same problem. Also, I couldn't successfully enter the bootloader to check my SPL. The guide said to press the power, camera, and reset buttons at once, but there is no camera button to my knowledge. I searched on the forums and somewhere else I read that you just need to press volume down and reset, but for the few times I tried this this just soft-reset my Diamond...
As for your question about why it has 850 UMTS as an option as my settings, I have no idea, and I am sure it will not work because I can't even get the regular 850 band working. But this is what it says. If you really like, I can post a picture.
I tried searching in the forums, but I can't find anyone with my same problem. If this has already been resolved, a link would be very much appreciated.
I'm still having the same problem everytime I try to run ROMupdateutility -- all it does is reset my phone, then tells me error 260 -- that my phone is not connected, and that I should check the USB. Why does my phone keep resetting?
Again, I am using Windows Vista Business 32 bit, and the phone is plugged in directly through the laptop. Please please help, I really do not want to sell my phone, if I can help it.
DrSilverworm said:
I tried searching in the forums, but I can't find anyone with my same problem. If this has already been resolved, a link would be very much appreciated.
I'm still having the same problem everytime I try to run ROMupdateutility -- all it does is reset my phone, then tells me error 260 -- that my phone is not connected, and that I should check the USB. Why does my phone keep resetting?
Again, I am using Windows Vista Business 32 bit, and the phone is plugged in directly through the laptop. Please please help, I really do not want to sell my phone, if I can help it.
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I had a problem like this with vista. I went to start-> settings-> connections-> usb to pc (on the phone) and unchecked 'enable advanced network functionality'. Unplugged the usb cable and plugged it back in, worked like a charm.
RavenGirl said:
I had a problem like this with vista. I went to start-> settings-> connections-> usb to pc (on the phone) and unchecked 'enable advanced network functionality'. Unplugged the usb cable and plugged it back in, worked like a charm.
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I tried this, and it still just soft-resets. Thank you very much for the suggestion, though. Any other ideas?
Also still having trouble running the bootloader, how do I do this? Is it a crucial step, or only necessary for checking which SPL I have?

ATT Tilt- possible radio problems, total noob needs help

Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max
one word for your info, "WIKI"
I did look over the wiki for some time, here is my hang up. Jockyw2001 posted in an SPL thread that "SPL3.56 is part of the latest AT&T Rom which is dated June 6. 2008" So since I did the official ATT upgrade and my ROM date is 07/17/08, does that mean that I already have SPL 3.56 on my device? I can not find a post about how to determine what SPL version (if any) is installed on my device. If SPL is already installed, is there any danger in installing an older version of SPL or reinstalling one?
Thanks again
-Max
maxjenius211 said:
Hi guys, I really did search first, I promise. I have been having connectivity issues (not making calls, lost data connections, etc...) since I updated to the ATT Official Windows Mobile 6.1 ROM (3.57.502.2 WWE) with radio version 1.65.21.18. I am trying to determine if I need to upgrade my radio version. I found the thread with all the radio versions for my phone but don't know anything about them. I did get that I should try different ones until I find one that works for me. So do I need to install the HardSPL on my phone (or did the Official ATT rom upgrade do that already)? From there do I run that RUU.exe file on the desktop (or what)? It would be great if someone could put this in super simple terms for me.
Thanks in advance,
-Max
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So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...
SavageWolf said:
So you are saying that the stock rom and stock radio are not working correctly, no cooked roms or other carrier radios?
Did the problems start right after you updated?
Oh and your problem seems similar to the one in this thread here, well least is sounds similar to me anyways...
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Yup, stock radio and rom as suggested by ATT, whom their customer service now claims they do not support WM6.1. I've never used a cooked rom and really only come here for device information and applications. I did have problems before I upgraded the rom but they have much worse since. The thread you posted is similar but they mostly talk about an "H" connection. I am in the DC metro area (USA) and get 3G all the time now, I wonder if that is part of the problem, I never get an EDGE network signal anymore.
Well... I just found THIS buried over on the ATT support forums
Clp1970 01-21-2009 10:33:16 AM
I guess we just got 3G network here. I haven't been able to make/receive calls for 5 days now. Tech support supposedly looking into issue. My phone switches bewteen 3G and EDGE constantly. Anyone else having this issue? What was the resolution? I don't want a refurbished Tilt if they can't come to a resolution (why would I want the same darn phone if it doesn't work well with 3G as advertised?) I have already drove 20 minutes to the nearest store for a new SIM card..which did no good. There isn't anyway of turning off 3G network unless I install software I have seen mentioned on this forum and well, I don't know about that...I paid for this phone to do what it said, and it isn't.
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And this is the reply to it over there....
tilteduser 01-21-2009 08:42:13 PM
Common problem that can be either due to problems with the rollout or that the local towers cannot handle 3G as effectively or at a greater distance as the same tower could for Edge. These are some related threads and posts but there are a lot more. As noted in these posts if there is a local AT&T store run by AT&T then you might pop in and confirm some of the problems with them.
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103583&query.id=659420#M103583
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...lar&message.id=103054&query.id=659420#M103054
http://forums.wireless.att.com/cng/...gular&message.id=92693&query.id=660536#M92693
The tendency is to blame the phone but the reality is often different and that includes from customer support who offered to swap my phone several times but this obviously would not work because it affected many other users as well differing phone manufacturers and models.
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Timing of it is close enough to make me wonder, but I had been using HSDPA.. But I have been getting the same problems you are talking about when the phone is set to 3g as well. The other thing that is starting to make me think its something ATT did to their network is that the OP from the thread that I linked on here lives 20 mins west of my location, and I am 15-20 mins north of DC... I may go to one of the local att stores and see what they have to say (tho that means for me that I get to flash my phone back to the stock rom )

uk radio

ok, so this may be a lame question and probably depends on a lot of variables but can anyone suggest a good radio for use in the uk??
is there such a thing, i've tried lots and so far seem to like a few but i still can't get the bl**dy GPS to work properly
i get a loke in about 10 mins if lucky.
i've used poldo's rom and ngy's and pda ultimate, and for my purposes poldo's seems the quickest and most stable to me.
any help would be appreciated.
dblonde
Using Radio in sig, lock about 2-3 mins, using mcguider "to which isn't the greatest sat nav prog"
yeah thanks for that. used that for a while, made my rom fast but gps lock was poor.
what do you think of the emo radio?
cheers mate
UK Radio version
I have dutty's 6.1 final with radio version 1.58.25.14. I am on T-Mobile and all is fine with my Kaiser. All this software was from the Kaiser software section on XDA.
Hope this helps
dblonde said:
yeah thanks for that. used that for a while, made my rom fast but gps lock was poor.
what do you think of the emo radio?
cheers mate
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Haven't used emo as have used the radio mentioned with no issue on every ROM i flash and even 3 carriers.
Do you use quickgps and have you tryed running GPSTest as you will find fix faster, also will always take longer for fix off cold boot.
I used to live in Solihull area of Birmingham and use 1.71.09.01 radio with 3G switched on (HSDPA off) and I could leave it with data connected all day and sync my mail every 15 minutes and at the end of the day after a few short calls I would still have 40 - 50% left.
I have just moved to South Wales (valleys area) and the same setup down there my battery is on 0% by 4pm. So I have had to kill 3G and set mail to manually refresh to get through the day.
fixed it
gps test installed and a new radio 1.65.16.25
get a gps fix in about 10secs.
i come from south wales, lived near the vally's in bedwas. now live and work in greenwich london.
small world.
thanks for everyones input.
dblonde
dblonde said:
fixed it
gps test installed and a new radio 1.65.16.25
get a gps fix in about 10secs.
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Glad you got this resolved but I used that Radio with the 'initial' UK HTC official WM 6.1 ROM update and it well and truely broke my GPS (compared to the WM 6.0 setup in my sig I'm back to using). I have no need to use gps test or any programs other that Tomtom Navigator 6.032 so I strongly suspect your results have more to do with GPS Test or the ROM, than that particular radio.

Constantly Intermittent Connection

I have an AT&T Tilt, and I ran the unlocker on it.
Recently I installed the TPC V11 Chumpstyle rom which is a 6.5 rom. Things seemed fine on it for the first couple days but then I noticed it was constantly disconnecting without notice from the service. Texts would randomly stop going through, and when I would go to make a call, it would end the call after about 10 seconds of unsuccessful dialing. Same with the data.. no browser would work.
I decided to try out different radios and different SPLs, even mirroring peoples setups which I assume were working since they have them in their sig lines.
These are the combinations I have tried:
HardSPL 3.29
USED:
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent. Only gets off 4-5 text messages before disconnect.
1.65.21.18 - No 3G connection
1.71.09.01 - No Service
1.70.18.02 - Intermittent disconnect
1.65.17.54 - Long connection time after startup - refuses to connect
HardSPL 3.56
USED:
1.64.08.21 - 4 minute connection time on startup, camera doesn't work
1.71.09.01 - No Service
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent disconnect
1.70.18.02 - No Service
HardSPL 3.34 Dave
USED:
1.70.18.02 - No Service
1.70.19.09 - Intermittent
What surprises and annoys me most is right now I have the stock rom/radio
Rom: 3.57.502.2
Radio: 1.65.21.18
and it does the same exact thing. It is very intermittent, works for 5 minutes after startup, and then nothing.
Nothing on the forum I have been able to search has helped me with this issue, and any help anyone can offer would be greatly appreciated.
one more thing comes to mind that might be worth a shot...
try to disable the 3G/HSDPA mode altogether and configure the device for plain GSM mode only. see how that fairs with the stock configuration or any of the "recommended" combinations of SPL and radio.
ASC - thanks for the reply. I am not certain how to disable 3g/hsdpa modes. I'll look around to figure it out and then post my results here.
Thanks again
It seems that the edge still connects, but I am having the same issues. Just randomly stops all connection
This is the same issues mine developed within the last month. No luck yet tho.
robseargeant said:
This is the same issues mine developed within the last month. No luck yet tho.
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Just lovely. I really would like a way to fix it. I don't plan on paying 125.00 for the insurance costs to get a new one, and really don't want to spend 300.00 on a TP2.
Thanks for your post, keep me updated if possible!
After looking at some of the newer thread posts, I think I may have a hardware issue here. Anyone able to tell offhand whether it isn't or if it could be, and/or if it is possible to fix?
I swapped out my motherboard with a friends who had given me thiers last year due to a broke screen. I did a Sprite back up and everything has been good for 24 hours.
Hey I think I have a similiar problem
2 weeks ago I was home and just lost service while the rest of my family and i usually had serivice. I would get service occasionally but only for 30 seconds or so and maybe like once every 15 minutes.
So I went back to school and for 2 straight weeks I had absolutely no problems.. and now I'm home again and I have the same problem..
Also last night I started using an old RAZR and it worked fine untill this afternoon seems to be acting the same, but when I went to ATT last time I was given a new SIM card...
Really weird.
I went through the SIM card swap as well. From what rob said it sounds like a hardware issue. Bad batch of AT&T Tilts all going bad around the same time?
I used advanced config to shut off data connections and then set my band to GSM and mine works fine now..
I just did the same using Advanced Config. I'll see what happens. I have no "Band" setting tab.
Did that help mini... after i did that mine "kinda" worked but then when i switched the band it worked perfect. I think you might have do so something in advanced to get the band tab to appear in "Connections." Ill try to figure out what I did
Try to see if you have the "Band" tab under "Phone", sorry it's not under connections, its right after network. I I switched network type from auto to GSM. If the page isnt there in advanced config under phones there is an option to "Show Band Page"
Also same intermittant issue w HSDPA
All,
My rom (Athene) has a setting under connections to disable HSDPA. I've found the phone works pretty well with HSDPA disconnected. I've also tried different radios and still having the same problem.
My assumption is that the TILT (8925) was never really designed for HSDPA or that the spec has changed since AT*T has started implementing it.
When I have HSDPA turned on, it works for about 2-5 mins then I cannot use Medianet or make/receive calls.
However, I know that HSDPA is working sometimes, because I did a speed test and found that I got approx 450kbps w/ HSDPA turned on. With EDGE, I only get 140-150kbps.
I say we all petition AT&T (or whoever your provider is) as well as HTC and require that they provide us with new versions of the TILT that actually support HSDPA properly. Obviously, if that many of us have the same problem and we all have different rom's and radios, it's got to be a network or hardware issue.
I plan to call / write ATT & HTC today. I'll let you know my findings.
Regards,
Austin
It's definitely got to be HTC/AT&T's fault. This is no coincidence. This is bs.
Well, I just got off the phone with Asurion and I have some good news.
As the Kaiser is no longer manufactured, and the HTC Fuze replacement they offered me does not fit my needs, they are replacing my Kaiser with a brand new Rhodium with a 12 month warranty. Farewell, Kaiser forum!

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