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My phone is a Siemens sx-66. Its really frustrating me to the point that I am ready to toss this thing into the lake.
I am very grateful that this forum exists. I have spent many hours reading the WIKI site for Blue Angel and other valuable collections of data. Any help you can provide is greatly appreciated.
I am looking for a fix for my phone. Here's the details.
My sim card is an AT&T Wireless card. My phone is a branded, Unlocked Cingular phone. AT&T was bought out by Cingular. My previous phone (motorola v600) broke so I bought this phone on Ebay, popped my Sim in and it worked.
I upgraded the ROM and here is the current report from DeviceData.
Model No: PH20B
Minor Version: B1
Language Code: WWE
Operator Code: XGULA
ROM Version: 1.33.10
Extended ROM Version: 1.40.125
Radio Version: 1.02.10
Minor: 02.10
I should change my Sim card to a new Cingular one, but I have chosen not because the plan I have with the former AT&T Wireless has a TON of minutes and Cingular doesn't have a plan that large. My contract is now up and I am hoping to renegotiate my plan with the business dept.
Here's what my phone is doing: I can be in the middle of a call, using my bluetooth earpiece ( I am always using the BT) and all of a sudden, the phone will soft reset. A few times, it will even hard reset. The hard reset is a major Pain in my ARSE because then I have to re-enter all my internet access settings and email settings again. This usually takes about 45 minutes of my time. :shock:
The thought just occurred to me that the problem could be my battery. I don't know enough to know if I need an additional software upgrade or not. Advice is appreciated. I am afraid of upgrading to WM5 because of the bugs that people have complained about.
I love my PDA phone. It keeps me more organized than I've ever been. Unfortunately, the recent problems have caused more problems than they solve.
Best Regards,
ArtisticStain
Dallas, TX, USA
Thia ia why I upgraded to WM5, but...
The problem is probably a loose battery connector, using a case helped my phone a lot (kept the battery from coming loose), however, you really might want to go with a WM5 install, the worst of the WM5 issues are:
1. Slow phone ringing (there are patches that are supposed to fix this)
2. Some software won't let you become a "registered user" because they do goofy stuff with the registry and your system doesn't respond in their goofy expected way anymore
3. Some people have issues with Blue Tooth, I just wanted features that didn't work in 2003 either, so this is really a non issue (IMO).
Good luck, I still think that you should really consider WM5.
umm... i actually had this problem at one point, but i honestly doubt i had the same one you do. With mine, all the screws under the battery were loose, and everytime i would shake the phone, or anything like that, it would hard reset. I doubt thats it, but check the screws under the battery... maybe some of them are loose?
Re: Thia ia why I upgraded to WM5, but...
siemens_sx66 said:
The problem is probably a loose battery connector, using a case helped my phone a lot (kept the battery from coming loose), however, you really might want to go with a WM5 install, the worst of the WM5 issues are:
1. Slow phone ringing (there are patches that are supposed to fix this)
2. Some software won't let you become a "registered user" because they do goofy stuff with the registry and your system doesn't respond in their goofy expected way anymore
3. Some people have issues with Blue Tooth, I just wanted features that didn't work in 2003 either, so this is really a non issue (IMO).
Good luck, I still think that you should really consider WM5.
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What are the real, operating advantages of WM5?? I don't want to deal with any more haywire issues with my phone or it will end up at the bottom of a lake.
REALLY NEED SOME HEAVY TECHNICAL ASSISTANCE
I am still using the same OS as above. Something has been happening lately...
When my cell receives an incoming call, it doesn't receive it. The red light shows up and the caller's info shows up on history as a missed call but the phone never rang.
What the hell is going on??
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artisticstain said:
I am still using the same OS as above. Something has been happening lately...
When my cell receives an incoming call, it doesn't receive it. The red light shows up and the caller's info shows up on history as a missed call but the phone never rang.
What the hell is going on??
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try to reflash to win2003se or pick a snazzy wm5 from our boys here, I have the same model.
we had extra 2400mAh batteries laying around so we popped them in these models, definitely a must.
I suggest an aluminum alloy/magnesium case they sell online for about $20US if you can find it, lined with neoprene
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...90008633724&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MEWA:IT&rd=1
Thanks for the info. I contacted cingular and they said they were having technical issues with converting or upgrading stuff.
I'll let you know if I change my mind about upgrading to WM5 but for now, I'll stay put. Upgrading will be my last resort.
Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Hi, my phone have like 4 month, and since 1 month or so, it is starting to loose the signal, every now and then I check the phone and it is with out signal (like putting it on AIRPLANE MODE) and it just only come back, if I switch to Airplane mode and back to normal mode, or if I restart it.
Any IDEAS??!?!
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Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
That happened to me until i switched to duttys rom and inex radio. now that problem is solved for me.
SOMEONE SET UP US TEH ROM!!!
WE NO GET SIGNAL!
If you could tell us if you ahve flashed to a customer ROM or if you have a Stock ROM, the one that came with the phone. Same with the Radio. We could help you better. Thank You.
redbandana said:
Please provide us with your rom, radio, and what country you use your device.
To find your rom and radio:
Start>settings>system>device information>version
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ok its a AT&T TILT
ROM Version: 1.57.502.2
ROM DATE: 08/25/07
Radio Version: 1.27.12.11
Protocol Version: 22.45.88.07H
Same here
I'm now with the updated AT&T ROM, but wit hthe same issues.
This also happened with the previous ROM.
At home I'm connected to my PC via USB. For some reason, in this location I have virtually no reception (ie I have 1 or 0 bars).
And many times, if I don't go in/out of Flight Mode after I leave home, I find myself without reception even for a couple of hours (ie the Tilt doesn't "recover" on its own).
I HardSPL'd my Tilt and tried installing the French radio in order to improve reception (other users in my location said it worked well for them), but found it was incompatible, and after a very stressful day (I was certain I'd bricked my Tilt) - was able to enter bootloader mode and restore the original radio.
At the moment I don't want to flash a Kaiser radio, and I want to wait until AT&T release their own WM6.1 ROM (I don't want to use a cooked one).
Further (I wrote about this in another post) - my GPS loses signal quite often, even under clear skies. I understand that this is another aspect of the radio drivers.
I'd appreciate any suggestions.
Thank you.
I'd rather think it's a hardware problem. RMA...
Difficult....
I live abroad, and so it'll cost a small fortune in shipping charges, etc.
Not to mention import taxes, etc, if the IMEI is changed (eg if the device is replaced).
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
is this NIKI radio compatible with the standard AT&T ROM?
I have 1.62.502.0 and radio 1.27.14.09.
Or is it compatible only with WM6.1?
Thank you.
redbandana said:
I live in a very poor reception area just outside of Boston. Previous to purchasing my device I would only have service about 40% of the time when I was at home.
When i purchased the Kaiser reception didn't get much better so I decided to search google and it led me to this forum. After reading many threads and asking some questions I feel that that the best radio that I've used so far is NIKI - 1.58.16.27. Now I have reception 95% of the time and GPS picks up about 7-10 satelites from my basement, crazy i know.
I'm not sure how much you been reading OP but I recommend you either learn how to flash roms and radios, or you can bring your phone to AT&T and have them look at it. However that means you have to give up your tilt while its being repaired, which sucks.
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ok, you say it improves with niki radio!?
so I have never done this before, is it hard!? were can I find a GOOD tutorial or guide or troubleshooter in case i get STUCK??
Other thing, here were I live, i think ATT from the quad band, use 850 almost all the time, anything to say about that? it doenst matter?, maybe its a stupid Q...
But the Niki radio requires WM6.1, doesn't it?
redbandana,
Did you install the Niki radio on a WM6 Tilt?
And what ROM do you have? (ie the original AT&T ROM, the updated AT&T ROM or a cooked one?)
Hi there,
For some time now I these weird symptoms if I place my Kaiser in my backpack next to my Blackberry...
- It won't come back when pressing the power button
- But status LED is still blinking the usual way
- Trying to call it will just reach the voicemail
> Doing a soft-reset is the only way to use it again.
I tried different ROMs (initially 6.0, and now 6.1)
Any idea or comments?
Thanks
Anyone with an idea on how to log what was happening until it "freeze"?
I'm not savvy, but I think this is called the Stand-By of Death (SoD).
Here's a thread with some details:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332088
Replace your device if under warrenty!!! I had to 5 times since Feb. Good luck!
i dont think there is anything wrong with your kaiser
i noticed that my artemis was getting exactly the same symptoms when my brother was placing it near play station 3... so i assume its something to do with electro-magnetic physics
you may however want a technician to look to your phone - to stop the doubts
I'm a bit scarred with repair guys...
Usually they give a refurb model (and not as "nice" as mine)
i agree with you - i dont like taking my new toys to repairs i always get the paranoia against them
dude ur phone is well - i experienced this in the past with several phones... keep an open eye if it happened in another situation that does not involve another device - then its time to call the bad repair guys
sebbes said:
I'm a bit scarred with repair guys...
Usually they give a refurb model (and not as "nice" as mine)
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Yeah, it's really a weird thing ...
Problem is I have to keep both device in my backpack (BB8820 work device, and TyTN II personal device)
The most weird point is that the Kaiser was able to work smoothly for months in the same situation... Don't know if it's since I install the HardSPL, or a different radio than the stock one (WM6.0 versions)
I had the Standby of Death SOD this is when the phone fails to come out of standby with a power button press. This issue only affects some people on some networks. I'm not sure if its a network problem or a software problem but as only a minority of people have it, I suspect its mainly a network problem there is a software solution.
The solution is to change the phone settings band option from auto 3G/2G to either 3G Only (WCDMA + UTMS 2100 in Europe) or 2G Only (GSM + AUTO) depending on your requirements.
Also read this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=540943&highlight=standby&page=2 where the resolution was to get a new SIM.
Obviously this only solves the problem when the crash is because of the sim and/or settings which impact the sim. To rule out a software cause its best to start with a hard reset.
Hello to all!
First I want to notice that I'm smartphone / ppc user for more than 3 years so I think I have good experience. Before posting I spent hours and days trying to find solution for my problem.
Second, my device info (when I bought it)
SWISSCOM XPA v1405
ROM: 1.14.166.1
Radio: 1.05.02.00
BREE100
IPL- 0.90
SPL-2.05 (Now SPL-1.9.0000)
CID-VODAP110 (info 2, HTCSVODAP110IqpÞHTCE)
Now, problem description:
Last week I bought two mobile phones Swisscom XPA 1405 (one for me and second for my colleague who is newbie in world of windows smart phones).
Since I bought them I realized that one of them often search for network when network signal is not EXCELLENT. At the same place one have signal second don't have or signal, or signal is poor, no bars, just one signal dot and provider name can be seen on display. Also I wasn't able to switch band to GSM or when I switch it to GSM device freezes. After that when I turn on phone again I don't have any signal.
I tried to solve problem with refreshing original Swisscom firmware - I found link in one thread from this site (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395426)
But after that nothing good happens, radio version is newer but signal is still very poor.
After that i tried flashin my phone with other radio roms I found on this site. I was able to install only two versions
Radio Update: Radio Only 1.38 Radio Only 1.54.30.10 (I found those links in section for FutureShock's WM 6.1). When I try to install any other radio I often receive error invalid id etc. I must notice that I used SPL 7.77 and that my phone was application unlocked before I attempted to flash it (all steps for unlocking was passed successfully).
One more notice: phone is in very good condition, so I think that my problem is not hardware related.
I don't have idea what else I can do. maybe to copy whole radio & OS rom from second device which is working excellent?? Is there way to do that? I read about that for other devices but I don't know how to do it for my phone. Is that safe to do?
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I bought phones from guy who sells second hand phones. I have only his number, which now is not available, so I couldn't return my phone
Yes I'm fool but I must live with it. Now I hope I will find solution, with your help, for my problem or my phone will gather dust in the box waiting to be dissembled for spare parts =================================================================
Thank you in advance and best regards!!!
maybe your phone have some hardware problems! repair it !
NEW (29/4/09) --> after further investigation and discussion with other kaiser owner affected with same problem, the thing could be more important than expected as many Kaiser could be potentially having the same problem.
The issue is that after going on flight mode the unit can start to have problems to get registered to the phone operator. Sometimes the problem is mitigated temporary by disabling 3G but the problem can persist. The unit is able to see the operators available but not to connect to any of them. Units affected were built between 07/07 and 11/07.
If you are affected please post your release date (DATE: DDMMYY(TBXX)/EU) that you can find on the sticker on the atenna in the back, under the back cover.
If you are not, be aware of the problem as you may start to have it if you go to flight mode or travel abroad.
NO SOLUTION FOR THE TIME BEING, AND IN GENERAL AFFECTED UNITS ARE ALREADY OUT OF THE GUARANTEE PERIOD.
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My TYTN II has more than 1 year.
The problem: Basically it is out of coverage all time, and does not manage to get connected to any network.
It started about 1 year ago. I am base in France and I want to USA. When I arrived to New York it did not work anymore. I thought it could have been the roaming or just that I had changed the SIM card a few weeks before and the operator did something wrong (ORANGE). But the point is that the same SIM was working in my spare nokia and on the other hand an Orange Spain SIM had the same problem.
I spend a few days in USA moving from one state to the other and after 2 or 3 days the phone started to work but with some problems (changing from one operator to another it did work) finally the 4th day it was working.
When I returned to Paris, it did work ok for a while.
Then one day the phone just droped the connection to the operator, and at the same time the Bluetooth link to the BT carkit and the GPS stopped and restarted. Since that moment the phone just did not work anymore (only the telephone).
I open a case to HTC who never replied. On the phone they just say inconsistent things.
The WM6.1 official release came out and I did upgrade it--> still the same. A new ticket open to HTC without replay. I stopped using it for a while.
In summer I went to Spain for vacations and started to play with it again. One day it started to work again without any justificiation.... so I left it like that.
Months latter I got a mail from HTC (really very reactive) but at that point the phone was working since more than 4 months.
By the end of 2008 when I was in Spain and this time using my Orange Spain SIM, I had to replace the SIM. After a few days, and after travelling across Spain, I had again the same problem. And actually the phone did not get any coverage with any of the SIM I use (Orange FR, Orange ES, Movistar...). Little by little it started to work again and it has stay like this for a few months.
In the last few weeks I have been in UK and Italy. Again started to have problems and finally, after a visit to Italy my phone has stop working. It is like that for 2 weeks.
The point is that I have tryed all kind of things:
- force to GSM or let it in auto
- change the UMTS and GSM bands
- different SIM from different operators
- Official WM6.0 and WM6.1 spanish
- finally I started to flash different Radio ROM and also coocked ROM
- when I search manually the operators or I try to fix it manually, I see that the phone is actually capable to see the available networks, but it does not manage to get registered in any.
At the end it is always in with the "!" symbol, saying either that it has no coverage or that the access is refussed.
I have seen that in two occasions I had changed the SIM a few weeks before. Also that the problem has always happened after putting the phone in flight mode (actually I was flying) and landing in a new city or even a new country; except once.
Last point: it is free HTC Spanish version. It is actually the second as the first I had was stollen. With the first I never had problems.
I will end up sending it back to HTC but obviously it will take very very long and meanwhile I will not have the GPS and the rest of the PDA that still work ok.
Any idea?
Thanks
Wow that was a long post, even so, you've left out some important info. Which ROM Radio and SPL versions are on the device now (the wiki explains how to find all this out if needed). Has the device suffered any physical bumps or been used in the rain/got wet? Have you tried cleaning the battery terminals and spring posts with a cotton bud soaked in contact cleaner or IPA? Not sure if the last one will help (especially if there are no battery charge problems) but it may be an intermittant problem and I've found this to be a known issue with the TyTN II. Also, how much more than one year have you had the phone (my TyTN II came with a warranty about 15 months).
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
On the other hand, I have tested all (really all) the RADIO ROM available in the FTP server of xda-developers, plus some more up to the 1.70.18.02 and
1.71.09.01.
Right now I'm running the 1.64.06.04.
In terms of ROM, I have also tested serveral. The last few are:
- offical HTC WM6.1 ESP (BTW with radio 1.65.17.56)
- KaiserESNReconstructedTestFix02
- RUU_Kaiser_SPA_WM6.1.19212.MobileVirtualVista2.21_radio_sign_25.83.40.02_1.65.16.25_by_ansar
The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
pepesr said:
Thanks for the info. I have verified all connectors, including battery and SIM.
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How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
More over I have 2 batteries and I have done all kind of test with both and with and without power supply.
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I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
In terms of ROM ..... The one I am running right now is:
- KaiserSpanish diamond II
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
The unit is from nov. 2007, I guess is out of guarantee. On top it was a gift...
But this is not the issue, the problem is actually that I guess that HTC will take several weeks to repare or replace it, and I can not live without the PDA part. I am considering to buy a second hand unit and then we will see....
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Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
Wow that is totally crazy. Good luck with that.
Flying Kiwi said:
How? The mark one eyeball won't pick up a thin film of grease which may still be enough to pose occasional connection problems. The best bet is simply to clean it as described (being careful not to spray the device directly to ensure the moisture indicators aren't triggered).
I have 3 batteries (original and 2 spares) and have had battery terminal problems in the past. I think that all those battery changes may exacerbate the problem. Cleaning as described from time to time, has prevented any recurrence.
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I will clean it again just to be sure....
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You could try reviewing the ROM thread for that ROM but if the problem occurred the same with other ROMs, that's unlikely to be the cause.
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I have gone through the forum to find another similar cases, but no luck. I agree with you that it is very unlikely that it is the ROM, as it happened with 5 different ROMs, including official WM6 and WM6.1.
Flying Kiwi said:
Still a few outstanding questions, has it been subjected to anything you may think could cause such problems such as being dropped, shocked or soaked? Also what SPL does it have on it and have you tried reflashing the SPL version (as everything else has already been flashed many times)? I'm thinking this is more likely a hardware defect but you may as well take every step you can to rule out other problems before going down the path of employing specialists to take a look at it.
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A few drops in 1 year an a half, this is almost unavoidable. But not a big crash, and in any case it never happened just before the problem. The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
I did not mention it but I reflashed the SPL a few times.... the same. I have also changed the Network Wizard and run it several times (there are some problems in the forum where people can not get access to some of the operator's services). Nothing changed
There is another point, when I go to the configuration of the Phone, I can list the available networks, but the issue is that it does not get registered to any of them. It may even be a problem with the operator an not the phone itself.
Flying Kiwi said:
If you do revert it to a UK Orange standard setup and send it off to HTC in Milton Keynes for repair, you may be surprised at how quickly they can turn around such a job. Although the only service I've used from them was a free ROM reversion while under warranty, after booking my device in over the phone in advance, I dropped it off in the morning of the agreed day and it was ready when I picked it up last thing the same day so the repair centre can really be very efficient (don't ask me about the call centre though ). There's no harm in enquiring with them first but I do suggest you revert everything back to 'as supplied' spec first (even though there's virtually no chance it'll be fixed for free).
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That is a good point. As I have to travel to UK from time to time I may consider it as an option, but as you say, I want to try all possibilities before.
Thanks again, and thanks to all other people that have any suggestion.
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The only real correlations I've noticed are:
- in tow occations it happened after my operator replaced the SIM
- in all cases but one, I had problems when roaming or when coming back from abroad
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You did mention sometimes it refuses to be registered on the correct network. If you use your secondary phone to call the operator, perhaps they can tell from their side why registration is being refused? I assume the SPL version you are using is fully compatible with the ROMs you are using. Other than that it's time to contact the repair centre and if you're now back in France then the HTC website (or Orange in France) should provide details of closer, more convenient repair centres. Good luck.
Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Just got a second Kaiser (2nd hand) and started to swap some parts between both. I found out that the problem is in the motherboard.
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By that if you mean it's hardware related fair enough but remember there are lots of bits of hardware attached to the mainboard which are easily and relatively cheaply replaceable (eg the sim holder) so a skilled repairer should be able to diagnose exactly where the fault lies.
It may be the board or, as said before, a problem with the network operator.
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Well thats a very important distinction to make. Option 1 may be uneconomic to repair where as option 2 would be free - don't you think you should get a definitive response from your network provider?
I continue to check. BTW, any tip is welcome.
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Get a definitive response from the network provider and then if reqd from an HTC repair centre (as suggested in my last post). In the meantime you can carry on as normal using the 'good' Kaiser.
Thansk.
If you have seen the rips of the Kaiser, it is not so easy to repair what is suppose to be faulty.
When you open it, you take out some parts:
- Antenna
- Speaker
- the roller control on the left side
Then you can remove the main card by disconnecting two flex cables.
When you have done this, your unit becomes two main parts:
- the main body that is completely ripped off
- the other half that contains the LCD, keyb, tilt mechanism, SIM reader, SD reader
The mothercard is actually monolitic, and most of the components are shilded with a methalic case solded to the board. There you have memory, processor, communication chipset...
I am currently using the "new" board on the old phone. Old the rest of the components are from the old one (including antenna, speaker....) and it works, so the fault is in the mother card.
Then when I use the old card with the "new" phone I have the same problem. I have a good and a bad one. Considering that I have no guarantee (and if I had, after all this manipulations, I have lost it for sure), I will first check with Orange. It is not very likely that it has been an operator problem as I have tried with many SIM from different operators and in different countries.
At this point is not so bad as I can play with the spare unit, test new ROM and SW, etc... before running it in the operational one. I also have spare parts in case that I broke something else (LCD...). I am even considering to buy another in ebay, something broken but with the mother card still running, so I can actually have two fully operational.
Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
raiisak said:
If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?
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That must be about the 4th or 5th time SPL has been mentioned in this thread and nowhere has pepesr answered - very annoying but you know what they say about leading a horse to water....
Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Especially when relevant questions from earlier on in the thread (and reminders/suggestions to clean terminals) are being ignored/not reported back on - maybe pepesr may actually listen this time and answer all outstanding q's/report what has actually been done?[/grouch mode]
Thanks again for your help.
Don't get disapointed, I have gone through all the story because the problem is quite weird and this is maybe the only way not to miss an important detail.
As said twice before, answering to the questions, I have traid different SPL and ROMs. To be more precise:
- The problem first started with original HTC SW set up., long time ago.
- I only started to play with different SPL a few weeks ago, and because I wanted to test different radios as the problem is on the phone part.
- I have tried SPLs 1.93, 1.56, 3.28. For sure 1 or 2 more but I don't have any record. Currently running 3.28
- I have installed radios:
- 1.27.11.31
- 1.27.12.11
- 1.27.12.17
- 1.27.12.32
- 1.27.14.09
- 1.27.15.32
- 1.58.26.20
- 1.64.06.04 --> currently running
- 1.64.08.21
- 1.70.18.02
- 1.71.09.01
- I have tried ROMs:
- official HTC WM6 spanish
- official HTC WM6.1 Spanish
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.21/2.20 D3D WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3
- Mobile Virtual Vista 2.10/2.00 WM6.1 5.2.19212.1.0.3gullum
- Throttle Diamond I multi language (updated) --> currently running
Do not hesitate to ask further details.
Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
Anyway, perhaps the sim card connection to the motherboard is flaky
burtcom said:
Clean the contacts on the sim slot and the card itself?
OOPS I see that you did.
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You were right the first time. 'Verified' is not the same as cleaned correctly and thoroughly, just as saying it will be done doesn't mean it has been done (correctly and thoroughly). It's not that I'm simply dissapointed. I am annoyed at being given the run-around when it comes to getting concise answers and actions quickly.
I note that we finally have the CURRENT full ROM/Radio/SPL details when picked from a list of other things we didn't ask for (although still no word on whether the actual terminal/connector cleaning has yet taken place for sim and battery and if it was done correctly and thoroughly using the correct materials). I don't know if they are all fully compatible with each other, especially that radio (and to be honest, I can't be bothered checking the custom ROM thread to find out). To say all combinations have been tried is little use because that could mean mixing incompatible items together with a net result of problems. It's akin to saying I've verified all the fluid levels under a car bonnet by filling the radiator with oil, brake fluid reserviour with antifreeze and water and the engine with brake fluid.
I will not be hesitating to ask further details from pepesr (and pepesr_1 for that matter...), I simply won't. The problem is not that not enough words are provided in a response, it's that listening and acting on clear guidance is not occurring, not something I know how to change in others apart from by showing them the net effect.
In the words of ChumleyEX, the situation is 'crazy'!
As many times in the forum, your answers, Flying Kiwi, are starting to be agressive and useless.
Contacts have been very well cleaned (correctly and thoroughly).
More over, the SIM connectors are in the other half of the unit that works with the new motherboard.
Asuming by default that I am so incompetent and that I have not gone through all this forum to check all this compatibilities is quite arrogant.
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I continue to thanks all other people that has really the intention to help.
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Pop Q. here, does it work 102% except your connection issues? Does it lag, screen freeze or acting strange in any other way? If this is a hard problem I would suspect SPL. What SPL version are you on now?What other have you tried and with which rom? Also I dont mind the lengt of this tread, but it takes a bit more time when its written in "story" mode
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Yes, it does work 102% for the rest. No other problems at all. And you can be sure I really strees it.
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
vuquan said:
I have the same problem as pepesr_1's. 100% same!
I use origine ROM on my phone, from SPL, ROM & Radio.
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Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
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Hi,
Good to see that I am not the only one, this could give us a change to find a solution.
Could you check in the back the sticker on the antenna with the date and version. Mine is: 011107(TB02)/EU.
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I haven't check yet. But I think it's same. I bought it at 01/2008 as brandnew phone.
2 week ago, I take it to a service shop to re-weld the SIM tray pins. At that time, the phone is good. After one day, it became fault as the time before welding.
More information:
- When it good, the signal can be found when the Windows starting (the LED is blink) with any SIM.
- When it fault, with usable SIMs, the signal can be found after Windows started some minutes. With un-usable SIMs, the phone says: No SIM.
- All Sims above are good SIM (tested on other phone)
Sorry for my bad English.