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heelp... what should I do...
Couple days ago TomTom trial and Google Map found gps device nicely and everything seems to be ok. However now when I am trying to start these sw:s they both are saying that they can't find gps device. What should I do about this?
When you start the apps, does the orange light on the right of the internal speaker start flashing?
If it does, then the GPS is actually starting but not getting a fix probably.
If it doesn't then have you mucked around with your "external gps settings" which should be left set to com4 and 4800
Or try this: http://www.expansys.nl/ft.aspx?k=100176
Thx for your answers...
when I tried start tomtom it will find gps-receiver & satellites and if immediatly after that I start Google Map sw it find gps also...
It seems that this happens because of delaying to find satellites... and timelimit at GM is too short... any way solve that problem because it is stupid that I have to start every time tomtom first
which GM version are you using? maybe you should try to download the latest version. The version 1.2.0.18 seems to take a longer time before it times out.
I've downloaded version 1.2.0.18 from the webpage http://www.google.com/gmm/index.html.
what version you suggested? And if that is different, where I could get it?
Or is it possible to use some light software first lock satellites and then start GM? if this is possible what "locking sw:s" you suggest?
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
I've downloaded sw called TGPS which I use locked satellites... Now it seems that this is working well...
thx anyway to all.
unwired4 said:
Its a well known problem that Google Maps times out before getting a fix on a "cold start" of the GPS.
I am guessing that if enough people let them know, they will either work out how to get it to respond quicker or to increase the time out.
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I had to return my phone for warranty repair but I think the latest version of GMM fixes the timeout problem. Last night I downloaded it to a friend's new ATT Tilt. The GPS took about 1.5min to get a fix and GMM didn't show any errors.
Where I can get this TPGS software???
Sorry not mentioned that before...
http://www.turboirc.com/ppc/
Thanks for the info
I downloaded the software, seems working but google maps is not working at all. What tricks have you done to make google maps work???
Zero, nada....
Just first locking gps with TGPS and then (TGPS background) I start GM... that's it.
btw. in the GM I am using automatic configuration for GPS.
If you setup everything correctly, sometimes its the location where you are at. Whenever I'm in my car, it always works. When I'm in a building, chances are, it doesn't work, even by a window.
So don't think its the phone. Test it outside first and then see if it really is the phone.
There is no need to download additional software to kickstart the Kaiser gps. Open the Camera app and switch to GPS Photo mode. Wait for a fix and then exit and start up Google Maps.
I tested the GPS outside and works fine with TOMTOM and TPGS but still google maps give me errors. When I start TPGS The software gets a signal really fast.
But when I switch to google maps I got ( Error: ConnectError [183]) and I still running TPGS in the background...
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
And another thing: This GPS photo where I can get it?? Because I think I dont have it.... my kaiser I bought it in Denmark...
Thanks for the help you people rock....
GPS Photo is enabled by a registry change -- use your favorite registry editor to set HKLM\Software\HTC\Camera\P9\Enable to the DWORD value 1. It'll then show up as a camera mode when you click the left/right arrows in the upper left corner of the camera display.
Thanks waygeek it worked....
Lets see if this google maps thing works with GPS photo
By the way I want to check out the version of google maps that you guys have??
I'm using google maps version: 1.2.0.17
Once again thank you all...
No luck with GPS photo our TGPS with Google maps.
The GPS is working perfectly
thomassster : You said that when you drive in your car Google maps works..
Do you use GPRS or 3G to connect to google maps and after that you use the GPS??? or you just use the GPS??
Because What I been experienced is if I'm outside then I use my GPRS connection then the GPS and google maps tell me Where I'm.. But If I dont use any connection and switch to the GPS, google maps die...
Thanks for the help
I've just got the Vario III new from T-Mobile UK, and I just can't the GPS get to receive any signals. I guess there is no "in box" way of testing the GPS, so I downloaded MS Live Search, and in there the "Centre on GPS". Previously, I set the hardware to COM0, 4800 Baud, autostart GPS by appilcation. In Live Search, I equally set it to COM0.
When is press the "centra on GPS", the righ hand side orange LED starts blinking, and the message inside Live Search is something like "retrieving GPS datat", but that's it. Nothing more happens.
I've also tried it with TomTom, but no result here either, other than the message "invalid GPS data".
I've called T-Mobile support to find out if there's anything on their side that needs doing, but apparently not.
So, I'm pretty stuck. Does anyone have an idea what I could try? Thanks!
First off, never ever go into the External GPS settings in the control panel. The general consensus around here is that it almost always requires a hard reset after messing with that. If you did, make sure it's set to COM4, 4800 baud.
Make sure your apps are set to COM4, 4800 baud. If that fails, a hard reset may be in order.
Why did you set it to COM0? Did someone tell you to do that?
I set it to to COM0 just to try SOMETHING.
I guess a hard reset is in order
So I just leave the GPS settings be and don't even touch them, yes?
Ok, so I've just done a hard reset.
The one and only thing I've done is install Live Search.
In the prefs of it, COM4 was automatically selected.
Hit "centre on GPS", with absolutely no reaction other than "Getting GPS position".
Any further thoughts? Hardware fault? Software issue?
The signal from GPS satellites is very low powered. ANY obstructions to the sky can cause a failure. My handheld Garmin GPSs and my Tilt will not get a lock in the house. Outside; buildings, trees, land masses and clouds all prevent a good lock. From my experiences with the Tilt, I have to get out into the open and wait 5-10 minutes or more for a lock.
Download the new google mobile maps and try that. It seems to get a fix quickly and doesnt time out as quickly as the older version (and some other gps enabled apps).
Cool, I got it to work. I left the device outside on the balcony for 10 minutes, and Live Search did lock in on me.
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
The thing that worked for me was to install GPS Viewer (freeware, you can Google it) and then open GPS from there. It takes about a minute to connect but then it stays on and interfaces with Tomtom very well. Prior to running it, please also download and run QuickGPS (it comes as loaded software with Kaiser, you may have to download it also as freeware, helps keep the connection steady; it is advised to download QuickGPS once a week, this is as long as its effect lasts, don't know why). The combination of QuickGPS and GPSViewer works very well.
naujoks said:
I now downloaded Google Mobile Maps, but couldn't locate a GPS function (I downloaded it from their website). Am I blind?
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Menu | Track Location
Hmm no, I dont have that menu item. Maybe I got an older version of it after all?
It's "Menu | Show My Location" on mine.
BTW, I saw a trick on another thread which worked very well for me. Enable the GPS Photo option (by using Kaiser Tweak or tweaking the registry) and open that first. It seems to get a fix very quickly. Once it's got one, you can close it and open any other GPS program like google maps and it tracks instantly. I also have QuickGPS installed and updated so that probably helps too.
After hard resetting twice, I have never run the QuickGPS program and I get a fix every time in less than a minute, even inside my house (by a window).
One program I highly recommend never using until it is updated is Map4PDA. It killed my GPS, requiring a hard reset.
Download GPS Test, run and confirm signal strength by satellite. That should solve your issue or at least answer the question of functionality.
I purchased a tilt about 2 weeks ago and have been using the gps fine with navadi htc gps tool, ms live search, and google maps. In fact im on a trip in san diego today and i was using the gps earlier today with google maps. I was lost for a while and i couldnt get the gps to work google maps wouldnt lock onto a sattelite, next i went into the windows settings and it wouldnt save anything under the hardware tab. After searching the net and not getting anywhere i decided to run clear storage to reset the tilt. I reset it and now google maps says it cant find a gps device at all. So i installed and ran the htc gps tool. When the device is set to communicate on com 4 htc gps tool says open com port failed. When i change the windows options and htc tool options to communicate on com 3, htc gps tool gives me no errors but also doesnt report any data being recieved. Im really hoping the gps isnt broke i didnt do anything to the phone physically to damage the gps but i have been running the phone at 57600 baud instead of 4800. If anyone has any experince with this gps unit or has had this problem i would appreciate any help. Also if its agreed this is just a phone problem is there usually a warantee or should i use the at and t insurance i bought whats the best rout here im not sure if i saved the phones recipt.
learn to use the enter button on your keyboard...and try turning agps off
i just checked agps it is off
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Software\HTC\SUPL AGPS]
EnableAGPS=0
is there anything else i could try. Like i said i did clear the storage so everything should be back to default settings.
problem solved
boorishid said:
problem solved
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What did you do?
TotalAxim said:
What did you do?
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Instead of just saying "problem solved", how about letting the rest of us know what happened....sorry rant over
acually im not quite sure what i did. I just set everything back to defualt in the gps settings com 4 at 4800 baud and the gps tool was able to communicate with the gps again.
Im just not quite sure what i did, i mean orginally it wasnt working with the default settings .
Also ive been having a real hard time getting gps locks lately i find myself having to use gps tool to constantly clear the gps memory, then i have to reopen it and preform a hot start. I never had to do tat befhore this problem. I have regular quick gps updates too. When i open gps tool it just tells me mode 2 fix not available. This happens after using google maps 2 or 3 times.
boorishid said:
acually im not quite sure what i did. I just set everything back to defualt in the gps settings com 4 at 4800 baud and the gps tool was able to communicate with the gps again.
Im just not quite sure what i did, i mean orginally it wasnt working with the default settings .
Also ive been having a real hard time getting gps locks lately i find myself having to use gps tool to constantly clear the gps memory, then i have to reopen it and preform a hot start. I never had to do tat befhore this problem. I have regular quick gps updates too. When i open gps tool it just tells me mode 2 fix not available. This happens after using google maps 2 or 3 times.
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Have you been playing with the "External GPS" application? That's known to cause serious problems with the GPS, even requiring a hard reset (although I saw work being done to restore some registry settings to default to avoid needing the hard reset)
I dont think so im not even sure what the external gps application is. I use a tilt so i dont have all the cool htc stuff ive downloaded and installed google maps, ms live search, quickgps, and the navadi htc gps tool. I did a hard reset and am still having trouble locking the gps in with out using gps and clearing the gps.
Strange part is i was on a trip and google maps was working fine all day and for weeks before the trip. All the sudden it just stoped getting a lock. Didnt drop the phone change any software settings or anything.
you most likely didnt have to do a hard reset...to get a good gps lock you need to download satelite information through QuickGps every 6 days but i do it everytime i use my gps through live search to get a god satelite fix everytime. and with the externa gps settings i set it to any port usually com 0 and never mess with the software tab , only hardware...the baud rates too you dont need to mess with that, just choose a com, quickgps download and soft reset u should always get a fix...if thir are still problems search for gps tweaks
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you most likely didnt have to do a hard reset...to get a good gps lock you need to download satelite information through QuickGps every 6 days but i do it everytime i use my gps through live search to get a god satelite fix everytime. and with the externa gps settings i set it to any port usually com 0 and never mess with the software tab , only hardware...the baud rates too you dont need to mess with that, just choose a com, quickgps download and soft reset u should always get a fix...if thir are still problems search for gps tweaks
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....or don't touch the application at all and use com4?
Hi,
I bought my Xperia 1 day ago, it's really good device. But I'm having some problems with GPS. Google maps starts to scanning for satellites for ages and never stops. I also tried the "Chartcross Gps Test" program and it finds the gps but it's always on "GPS Starting up" status.
Does anybody nows how to test it ? Or if there is something that i have to enable first? (all the configs are default - like in a hard reset)
It should work straight out the box. Try the quick GPS download in the Programs>tools folder. Downloads the locations of the satalites for the next week to the phone. Since using this, tomtom7 can find my loction in seconds (literrally)
Have you been trying it inside a building? In that case it won't work. I had the same thing with the GPS. In a building there is no connection to satelites, works perfectly though outside and from within a car.
Tomorrow I try google maps.
However I use tomtom. Befor all download effimeral with quick gps.
First of Xperia I have a Polaris. Xperia gps is much better than polaris. And polaris has a very good gps....
Tomtom7
Where did u get the Tomtom7 software for the xperia. A friend of my using his tomtom device and it works really fine! So on my X1 it would be really great if i can use it too!
I don't rememder now, but you can use Diamond tt7. It work fine.
ah thank you! but i can't find the file. could you post me the link for download pls
To test GPS use GPS Test from ChartCross. It's a great, free utility.
http://www.chartcross.co.uk/products/WM00002_details.asp
thank you! ....
Now it's working fine. I have to test it with tomtom later, but with google maps is Ok now. I followed buckle247 and Dryw Filtiarn tips. Now it finds the satellites very quick.
Just one question, google maps requires internet connection and how about TomTom?
One thing that i noticed is that the GPS sometimes doesn't "turn on", because either Chartcross or GoogleMaps can't find the GPS device, however if i turn off and turn on Xperia it finds. Is it normal?
kotarou TomTom doesn't need to run over GPRS as the maps are all stored on the Memory Card, however if you subscribe to traffic data then that will need a GPRS connection.
Also every so often I get the "No GPS Device" sometimes just leaving the phone for a minute makes it appear, other times a soft reset.
Cannot install GpsTest
Hi, I tried to install GpsTest on Windows Vista, but it doesn't work, since GpsTest installer requires ActiveSync. But Activesync refuses to install on Windows Vista, because there is another SmartPhone software.
Does anyone know another versione of GpsTest, compatible with Vista, or a version installable directly on the X1?
Thanx!
kotarou said:
Hi,
I bought my Xperia 1 day ago, it's really good device. But I'm having some problems with GPS. Google maps starts to scanning for satellites for ages and never stops. I also tried the "Chartcross Gps Test" program and it finds the gps but it's always on "GPS Starting up" status.
Does anybody nows how to test it ? Or if there is something that i have to enable first? (all the configs are default - like in a hard reset)
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Found a fix
If your 3G data is switched off, then you won't be charged for anything. GPS won't charge you as it is tracking signals from satellites, much like a Sat Nav.
OK, i've already searched the forum on this issue (went through all 12 pages of results for the words "tilt" and "gps", and while some others seem to have had this same problem, once they get down to the actual problem, the thread seems to end.
the problem is that ever since I upgraded my 6.0 wm version to 6.1 via the official att rom, my gps does not seem to work at all. and by this, I don't mean that I just can't get a lock on any satellites, but the gps itself doesn't seem to be working at all. i've loaded gpstest and after scanning through all the com ports (skipping com4 which is where it should be), it cannot find any gps device. I have downloaded the quickgps updates and the only other thing of note I would say is that I didn't load the att bloatware with the update. and because it started the moment I upgraded, I don't believe a hard reset would do much (would like to try everything possible beforehand so I don't have to reload everything)
now, if i have skipped the thread that gives the answer to this question, I would very much appreciate a link/response on this, as it's been bugging me for quite some time now. thanks in advance
Did you update the radio as well as the rom? Most 6.0 radios are not compatible with 6.1 roms. See the Ultimate Radio Thread for more info.
radio version is 1.65.21.18, and according to the wiki that should be a working radio for wm 6.1. lists this specific radio under the section "KAISER Radios These Radios were ripped from Kaiser WM6.1 ROMs. "
What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?
redbandana said:
What program are you trying to use with for your gps? TomTom, Googlemaps?
I think I mastered getting a gps fix and I don't think you will have a problem if I help you.
Please provide
1) what gps application are you using
2) baud rate
3) are you using anything to open your gps port before you attempt to run the program?
4) did you change anything in external gps settings?
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1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help
Shaitheatery said:
1.) well, initially i've just been trying to get gpstest to recognize the fact that i have a gps device at all, but i generally use google maps as my main gps program.
2.) for baud rate, i've been setting at 4800. admittedtly, i'm not sure what the baud rate does, but i've always read that that is the correct setting with few that say otherwise (i've tried multiple settings just to see if they work, they don't)
3.) i can't get anything TO open the gps port, as in gpstest skips com4 when searching for a device, google maps just times out trying to locate a signal (outside, clear view of the sky, before the upgrade i could get a signal sitting in my apartment on the first floor)
4.) i haven't changed anything from what it is at default (gps program port: com4, gps hardware port: none, baud rate: 4800, manage gps automatically is checked)
very much appreciate the help
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sorry about the delay, I was at work and having issues posting a response with opera on this site because it stated I didn't have the proper tokens? No idea...
Anyhow, it appears you have all the right settings which is good. But you are definitely needing a better program to launch your gps. So stop using gps_test, as I offer you HTC_GPS_Tool, attached cab is at the bottom.
1) install cab to main memory
2) open googlemaps>menu>options>gps settings>set manually> com4 > Baud 4800 > click ok> menu select use gps
3) close googlemaps
4) open quickgps and download updates
5) open HTC_GPS_Tool>set com4> baud 9600 (yes 9600) > Click Open> "Hot Start" should be selected below it > let program run for about 45 seconds or more > DO NOT MINIMIZE OR CLOSE THIS APPLICATION BY CLICKING X OR OK
6) open googlemaps by going to start menu as it is the only option to select the application with GPS_Tool open (unless of course you have a hardware button shortcut for it)
7) You should have no issues getting a gps fix on googlemaps within 30-40 seconds for the first time.
8) However if you do receive issues restart this process and at Step 2 change Baud to 9600 in google maps but it shouldn't be necessary. These steps shouldn't be necessary everytime you want to open your gps port. However, if you encounter issues you have HTC_GPS_TOOL to help you. Always remember to update your quickgps outdoors if you plan on using it. Finally, leave your external gps settings alone.
If you have any further questions feel free to ask via pm or back in this thread, that is if mods don't lock it because your question was answered?
i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.
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i just got done following all of the instructions (i already had htc gps tool installed in my quest to find something that works), and google maps came back and said that no gps receiver was found, even after setting the settings manually exactly as you said.
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ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?
redbandana said:
ok then something is clashing with your gps. Do you have aGPS disabled?
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it was enabled, just disabled with kaisertweak and am going to try the process once again
ok, we're making progress now lol. after disabling agps, htc gps tool started to actually give me scrolling text like it was working as opposed to the dialog box being completely empty. I goto open google maps, and at first get the same "gps device not found" message, but then for kicks I changed google maps to get gps settings from windows, and now it's past the initializing gps and is finally seeking satellites now. it might be because of a cloudy day today, but neither gps tool or google maps has gotten an actual fix on any satellites
thanks very much for the help so far, can't believe i didn't think of something so obvious to try
just went to grab some lunch, figured i'd try to get a fix on the way, google maps by itself got a fix in less than 5 seconds. thank you very much for taking the time to help me out, i am in your debt