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Did i unlocked my device ?? not sure

i have CID unlock my phone i have put some cooked ROMs but i wanted to know why i cannot flash my phone to like a Hardspl i followed the instructions to unlock my device but can some one tell me if i need to do something else?

luis_valerio said:
i have CID unlock my phone i have put some cooked ROMs but i wanted to know why i cannot flash my phone to like a Hardspl i followed the instructions to unlock my device but can some one tell me if i need to do something else?
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Use my tool (check signature) that has an option to read the CID status...

luis_valerio said:
i have CID unlock my phone i have put some cooked ROMs but i wanted to know why i cannot flash my phone to like a Hardspl i followed the instructions to unlock my device but can some one tell me if i need to do something else?
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Is there a hard spl flash for the Wizard? I haven't been spending much time here but the only place I have seen Hard SPL is on the Hermes forums. If this is where you have seen it from you should NOT attempt to flash this to your Wizard they are more different internally than they are externally.

Zzan said:
Is there a hard spl flash for the Wizard? I haven't been spending much time here but the only place I have seen Hard SPL is on the Hermes forums. If this is where you have seen it from you should NOT attempt to flash this to your Wizard they are more different internally than they are externally.
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Unfortunately there is no HardSPL nor SSPL for Wizard
When it came out first time i asked the developer to give me hints so that i could try to port it to Wizard and he said there was a team working on that...and that was months ago
So no, G4 devices can't be CID unlocked for free.

Paid CID unlock

Just out of curiosity:
If I buy unlock code from say IMEI Check and CID unlock my device, would I ever need to run Hard SPL or Soft SPL to upgrade/downgrade my Trinity? Then going forward, can I just run any custom/cooked/original ROMs without worrying (since my device is permanently unlocked)? Please don't ask me why I want to pay for this when there are so many free alternatives - I don't know the answer
Last but not least, which method of unlocking preserves the warranty? Can the device be locked back just in case I need to take it to service?
Thank you! (I know these qns have been answered many times in this forum, but I just want to reassure myself that I got it all correctly)

As far as I know, IMEI-Check will completely unlock the device, allowing ROM upgrading etc without the need for additional hard SPL or softSPL.
Unlocking in itself doesn't affect the warranty, so you could simply use IMEI check to unlock for use of another SIM card. Further than that, flashing a new, unofficial Radio or OS ROM will technically invalidate the warranty. Most of the free unlockers actually work by flashing the Radio ROM, so in that case IMEI Check is safer as it retains the original ROM.
Once unlocked, there is no way to relock a device, but as long as you have the Operators own ROM in place, the lock status won't be looked at.

dim4x4 said:
If I buy unlock code from say IMEI Check and CID unlock my device, would I ever need to run Hard SPL or Soft SPL to upgrade/downgrade my Trinity?
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Yes, you'll also need to use SSPL / HardSPL if you plan to flash cooked roms (unsigned) in NBH format using the RUU updater.
You'll not need to use SSPL / HardSPL if you plan to flash shipped official ROMs (signed) using the RUU updater or if you you extract the *.nb files from the NBH upgrade and flash from mtty using LNB command in imei-check's MFG bootloader (which doesn't check signatures). You won't be able to flash unsigned code with the standard RUU Updater or SD card using imei-check's bootloader.
dim4x4 said:
Then going forward, can I just run any custom/cooked/original ROMs without worrying (since my device is permanently unlocked)?
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Original roms yes, you can flash them without worrying, but you'll have to re-run imei-check's unlocker everytime you want to flash your device with an original rom not matching your CID as CID unlock is not permanent (it disappears when you flash the radio).
As for custom/cooked roms, no, you'll have to worry about a) using HardSPL/SSPL or extracting the *.nb from NBH and flash from mtty, as it's the only way to flash unsigned code with imei-check's bootloader.
dim4x4 said:
Last but not least, which method of unlocking preserves the warranty?
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- imei check, as long as you replace the bootloader with a standard one before returning your device
- free unlocker, as long as you don't check the "superCID" option when you run it and you flash a standard radio back into it after SIM unlocking.
dim4x4 said:
Can the device be locked back just in case I need to take it to service?
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Depending on why you have to take it to service, but basically yes if it's working.
NeilM said:
As far as I know, IMEI-Check will completely unlock the device, allowing ROM upgrading etc without the need for additional hard SPL or softSPL.
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It will SIM unlock, but the CID unlock will only stay as long as you don't replace the RADIO after unlocking. If you flash another radio, then you'll need to re-run imei-check's unlocker again to have it CID unlocked again. And remember that for flashing a cooked rom you don't just need a CID unlocked device, but also need to bypass signature checking.
NeilM said:
Most of the free unlockers actually work by flashing the Radio ROM, so in that case IMEI Check is safer as it retains the original ROM.
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But it replaces the SPL on the device by a 1.01MFG SPL, so the warranty is technically void. And it also modifies the radio, but keeps the existing version.
NeilM said:
Once unlocked, there is no way to relock a device
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That's not true
NeilM said:
but as long as you have the Operators own ROM in place, the lock status won't be looked at.
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That's true in most cases.

Thanks Pof

Thank you very much, pof! That's clear and exhaustive answer!

Installed wm6.. but phone is still wm5

I recently followed all steps to upgrade my phone wizard a9100 to wm6. It installed w/out problem. But when it boots it is still wm5. I downloaded various wm6 packages and it ends up the same way. I don't know what the problem is. The phone is a generic Qtek phone, not t-mobile or any other. Thankss!

Be sure that the phone is CID unlocked. If it's not and you keep on flashing you might kill the phone or criple it by not booting again into OS.
cheers

Thanks
mestrini said:
Be sure that the phone is CID unlocked. If it's not and you keep on flashing you might kill the phone or criple it by not booting again into OS.
cheers
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Ok thankss. I'll check if it CID unlocked. Thanks for the response. So if I CID unlock it , it supposed to work correctly right?

yes

Thankkk u!
That seemed to be the problem.. Thank u lotz!!

the same problem with me too

micro-me said:
the same problem with me too
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If its CID locked it won't upgrade,first CID unlock the phone.If its a G3 follow this guide :-
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
But if its G4 read the SoftSPL or HardSPL method in the G4 forum posted as stickies.

Determine your Hard-SPL Version

How can i know if my Hard-SPL is unlocked without upgrade anything ?
(i use a prototype phone)
Thanks in advance for your response.

Dancorp said:
How can i know if my Hard-SPL is unlocked without upgrade anything ?
(i use a prototype phone)
Thanks in advance for your response.
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You won't have Hard SPL.
Carriers don't ever make Hard SPL's, xda-developers do.
Some prototypes are SIM unlocked or Security unlocked, but they will still have an SPL that requires a signed and matching CID image before it will flash it.
Thanks
Dave

Thanks for your response
And...Yes, my phone is SIM unlocked or Security unlocked

re flash the stock rom

how to re flash the stock rom and how to get my device locked again

hoss_n2 said:
how to re flash the stock rom and how to get my device locked again
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You can follow this thread. See the steps at the end of the post.
I'm not sure what you mean by locked again though. As long as you install the stock rom, radio and spl the phone is back in it's original condition unless you did a security unlock of the phone of course, in which case I believe that is irreversible. If you just used uspl or hspl to flash, there is no need to "lock" the device again.

ClydeB1 said:
You can follow this thread. See the steps at the end of the post.
I'm not sure what you mean by locked again though. As long as you install the stock rom, radio and spl the phone is back in it's original condition unless you did a security unlock of the phone of course, in which case I believe that is irreversible. If you just used uspl or hspl to flash, there is no need to "lock" the device again.
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Actually you can reverse security unlock. cmonex has a re-security locker on her site, link here.
CID unlocking can also be undone (see the Hard SPL thread).
SIM unlocking, won't affect the warranty

Fallen Spartan said:
Actually you can reverse security unlock. cmonex has a re-security locker on her site, link here.
CID unlocking can also be undone (see the Hard SPL thread).
SIM unlocking, won't affect the warranty
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Thanks m8, never too old to learn something new, and that on your 5,000th post.